Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11

flamming_python wrote:
We don't know what happened yet

It's one kind of fk-up or another, that's for sure, but to early to say whose

ALAMO wrote:

Firebird wrote:

Bottom line is, Britain is even more fucked up than you can imagine. And Aislin is an even bigger cocksucker than you can imagine.

Well ... there is no other place on the planet when you can't understand your fellow citizen after driving half an hour in any direction

My friend who lives in Aberdeen for years still has not learned the language. And each time he says that he won't learn it, as nobody will understand him anyway

Regular wrote:https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1514650874710220813

Ukrainians attacked Russian territory again, there are wounded.

This is picking up speed.

Regular wrote:https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1514650874710220813

Ukrainians attacked Russian territory again, there are wounded.

This is picking up speed.

caveat emptor wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

caveat emptor wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

kvs wrote:It appears there were casualties in the Moskva incident and around 20 sailors are missing with under 5 deceased.   I will not vouch for
the details.  It is possible it was a missile strike but not by Neptune missiles.   Maybe some of the weapons shipped over in the last
couple of weeks.

Now Putin has to put his actions where his mouth is. Unfortunately the Ukrainians probably anticipate this and will flood whatever command centre with civilians. Such retaliatory measures should not be proclaimed, they should simply be done. The enemy will understand perfectly well.

Of course all the proper command centres, and the high-up Ukrainian generals as well - are all on NATO territory I suspect.

It is little outside the subject, but still relevant. Do you see Putin and team around him, as a right choice to get Russia through all this? I don't think only war w Ukraine, but whole economic and possible proxy wars with the West, in the future.
I would appreciate your input, you being a Russian that lives in the country.

I don't think we have a choice with our leadership, so it's not a matter of it being a right choice.

One thing I really don't like about Putin is that he never admits his mistakes. As if he and his team never make them.
And he doesn't trust his own people. What he says here or there is true, but there's a lot of things he leaves out.

Basically Putin and co. were doing fine in the passive phase of the confrontation, but now we're onto an active phase. Putin has resigned himself to a figurehead role, while leaving other people to voice different things - Peskov, Lavrov, Kadyrov, Medvedev.
I can see why its done - there are external diplomatic calculations to be made as well. But it doesn't bode too well considering the actual seriousness of the situation.

The war is being fought like a crusade. I think this is the right approach, and will serve to build support among the Ukrainian population as well. But bluffs need not be voiced - they'll be called. Simply do it, if you're going to do it. And no more underestimation of the enemy.

I agree. But active phase will continue after war in Ukraine is done, via economic and other ways. I just don't see him as a right person for the job, as that would mean some of his policies would have to take 180 degree turn, especially in economy.

JohninMK wrote:GEROMAN -- -
@GeromanAT
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"Lviv administration has confirmed airstrikes on the Yavoriv military range. According to preliminary data, 8 missiles hit the military facility"

par far wrote:I try to take emotions out when I think about the current situation in Ukraine and when making all my posts.

But I really wish that the Russian military went hard in Ukraine, let the VKS loose.

caveat emptor wrote:

What's important to note about the conflict is that Russia is changing, and will change more. Our oligarch class is increasingly pressed. This is the turn of the people to take the lead role in building the state. And it'll have to be a tough people as the next few years will be tough. The war will be tough. And we need a leader to represent this Russia.

caveat emptor wrote:Do you see anyone as a potential adequate candidate? I don't follow Russian political scene that much. I just have a feeling that likes of Shoigu, Naryshkin or Sechin wouldn't be a good choice.

Firebird wrote:
There are some aspects that puzzle me.
How Russia seemed to do little during the initial hohol coups, and in 2014.
And why Russia didn't try a counter coup in the 2000s and esp after 2014.

Clearly the US had taken over the organs of power - cops, military forces, security services, media etc.
But why? Why didn't Russia wipe them out? Its not like they wouldn't know what to do. PLus Americans don't even undertstand the language.

Could Russia have support Yanukovich in 2014 or before? Maybe a civil war back then would have been easier than the war today?
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Moving forward to 2020. At least lots of oblasts are coming under Russian protection now. ABout 7 ish?
With the Donbass cauldron sorted that could rapidly escalate.

But there seems to be  a lack of fear of Russia. From the Bandera-scum, from NATO and esp from the US. Not enough deterrents in place. The question is... how does Russia pay back ALL the perpetrators of evil?

Regular wrote:https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1514650874710220813

Ukrainians attacked Russian territory again, there are wounded.

This is picking up speed.

Stealthflanker wrote:

JohninMK wrote:GEROMAN -- -
@GeromanAT
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6h
"Lviv administration has confirmed airstrikes on the Yavoriv military range. According to preliminary data, 8 missiles hit the military facility"

Again ?

what they're blowing this time i wonder.

Isos wrote:Still no picture of Moskva ? Some say it is in Sevastopol some say it still at sea going to Crimea. Guess nothing of what was said is reliable. Even russian said it was towed with no crew then itgoes on its own propulsion...