Russian special military operation in Ukraine #14

sepheronx wrote:
Or let them surrender and publicly denounce Ukrainian forces when used by LDNR

It's best to denounce the government only. If such morale collapse will continue to happen in the east, then the Ukrainian army will have a decisive role against the current Gov. Twitter bullshit won't matter as sentiment in the military is born in fields and we all know that best Ukrainian troops are in the JTO, not in Kiev.

Iraq and Afghanistan war mistakes will not be repeated.

ucmvulcan wrote:

Stealthflanker wrote:What do you guys think of possibility of Ukrainians pushing  their luck on "Doolittle raid" style attack on May 9th ?

There are veterans there and lots of civilians at those parades, they do that shit and Kiev needs to be reduced to unidentifiable piles of ash.  Of course I'd move it up to 8 AM, have the soldiers and tech role straight to the front and for my money Putin needs to take to the review stand on the Mausoleum.

Most likely some pussy-riot bullshit, I don't think Russian security services will let this to happen.

Hole wrote:Constant airspace monitoring? Either the AWACS are shit or there is not much left to send data to. They don´t even try to shot incoming cruise missiles down. Propably because as soon as an AD system turns its radar on it is destroyed.

On the one hand, there is a limit to what an AWACS several hundreds of km away can detect and track. On the other, land based AD has a tiny footprint on low flying CMs. That is why I say that very dense AD is needed against them. But we have seen quite a few interceptions of Russian missiles, or at least attempts at it... even though many ended up hitting ukie buildings instead

Regular wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:[
Black Dolphin cures all

Not that simple.

If he wasn't part of Azov or wasn't involved in fighting (what else he was doing there?) then his idiotic pictures will mean **** all. It's not a cancel culture. Separatists themselves had some ex-nazis amongst them, it doesn't mean they killed and tortured people or continue to practice it (Pavel Gubarev for example)

It's one to LARP and another to be an actual war criminal, just surprised it's an old **** who is doing that and not a kid. Plenty of videos of nazi larpers and sympathizers (mostly in their 18s) being questioned by DNR authorities. In Russia nazi symbolism gets you fined and put on a watchlist and if repeated - you get a bigger fine + public works and roughly 5-15 days of jail time and so on. Eastern Ukraine could as well use public works to clean up.

Black Dolphin will have their share of inmates soon- real executioners, their commanders, recruiters, and propagandists.

“Civilians”

Its pretty clear that most, if not all of the civilians “trapped” there are Azov Nazi family members or as in this case fighters pretending to be civilians.

lancelot wrote:The Drivel! reports on a HATO nuclear attack submarine convention in Scotland. With British, French, and US attack subs.
It looks like a pirate convention to me. I told you guys. The plan of HATO against China was the nuclear attack submarines to sink their surface fleet then do commerce raiding on their merchant ships.

They probably think they can do the same to Russia.

Time to discover the "conventional" capabilities of Poseidon??

Serberus wrote:

Good catch. Should be easy to check if they will give up. Their OPSEC sucks

Airbornewolf wrote:I know its been a few weeks again since you returned, but welcome back to the party! ...

Thanks bro, good to see you too

Airbornewolf wrote:Had fun with the pro NATO jackasses we have around here?...

It's all in a day's work

Isos wrote:...If they don't come up with excuses, then if Russia exchange them for russians POWs they will be shot dead by ukrainian commanders from azov.

They are more afraid of that than being captured.

Wow, those Azov guys must be the only people with guns in entire Ukrainian army


I'm way past tired with this Azov excuse bullshit, they are all there because they want to be there and are all on the same page about massacring Russians

Only morons would fall for this bullshit

They whine about Azov because they all know what will happen to them if evidence of what they did ever appears, it's all about saving their own asses and throwing Azov under the buss is the easiest move

They sure as shit didn't have issues with Azov back when they all thought this would be a cakewalk and that they would be killing Russians for sport as their new feudal overlords

Agree about Azov becoming scapegoats. Now there are almost no Azov guys left. There are other battalions, but none of them were as big as Azov so I doubt they play a big role. Ukrainians got high on their own propaganda supply, no one is holding them hostages only their imaginary winning on all fronts.



Rusich guy from LNR front (Like someone said, Azov of a sane person + with much more combat experience) with a tropy Swedish AT-4. Plenty of other ATGMs systems were captured too, but AT-4 seems to be more numerous on the LNR front.






Unlike Ukrainian nazis, these guys know their business very well, having been in Syria, CAR, and Libya and they keep their ideology to themselves. Ukrainians are the first ones to call them nazis and cry about them and I find it hilarious.

RIA Novosti; 03:06 04/30/2022 (updated: 03:24 04/30/2022)

Lavrov: special operation in Ukraine helps to free the world from the influence of the West

Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov: special operation in Ukraine helps free the world from the influence of the West




MOSCOW, April 30 - RIA Novosti. Russia's special operation in Ukraine is contributing to the process of freeing the world from the neo-colonial oppression of the West, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said in an interview with Xinhua News Agency.
He noted that "those who pursue an independent course in domestic and foreign policy, the Westerners are trying to suppress by the most brutal methods."
“And not only Russia. We see how “bloc thinking” is being imposed in the Asia-Pacific region ... In the spirit of the archaic “Monroe Doctrine”, the United States seeks to dictate how and by what standards to live in Latin America ... In this vein, and the ongoing pressure on Belarus. This list can be continued," Lavrov said.

At the same time, the minister expressed confidence that the attempts of the "collective West" to stop the natural course of history and solve their problems at the expense of others are doomed, since the modern world is multipolar. "Everyone has a real freedom of choice, including ways of development and participation in integration projects. Our special military operation in Ukraine also contributes to the process of liberating the world from the neo-colonial oppression of the West, heavily mixed with racism and an exclusiveness complex," Lavrov stressed.

The West forgot about the multipolarity of the world

The West and its satellites are trying to be "the arbiters of the fate of mankind," the Foreign Minister said. "It has gotten to the point that the Western minority is trying to replace the UN-centric architecture and international law formed after the Second World War with their own "rule-based order." These rules are written by Washington and its allies themselves, and then imposed on the international community as binding" , - he said.
As the minister noted, the US and its allies are forgetting that the world is multipolar. "The sooner the West comes to terms with the new geopolitical realities, the better it will be for itself and for the entire international community," the minister said.

Lavrov expressed confidence that the Russophobic line of the West has no prospects. "In the USA, Great Britain, Canada, the EU countries, they do not hide the goal of" strangling "our economy, blocking the further progressive development of the country ... It is obvious that this Russophobic line not only cannot be justified in any way, but also has no prospects. As noted President Vladimir Putin, Russia has withstood this unprecedented pressure. Now the situation is stabilizing, although, of course, not all risks have already passed. In any case, we will not be weakened," the Foreign Minister said.

According to the minister, the ruling circles of the West are not embarrassed that anti-Russian sanctions are already beginning to harm ordinary citizens of their own states, economic dynamics in the United States and many European countries are deteriorating, inflation and unemployment are growing.

Tool to contain Russia

The Foreign Minister also accused the United States and NATO of fueling anti-Russian sentiment in Ukraine for a long time, viewing it as a tool to contain Moscow.
According to him, in the issue of the crisis in Ukraine, we should talk about the long-term destructive line of the Western countries led by the United States, one of the components of which was the reckless expansion of NATO to the East, despite political commitments not to expand the alliance.

"As you know, these promises remained empty words. All these years, NATO infrastructure has been moving closer to the Russian borders," Lavrov added, recalling that Washington and Brussels rejected Russia's initiatives on security guarantees.

The fate of Ukraine is indifferent

The United States and the European Union, according to Lavrov, intend to fight Russia "to the last Ukrainian," they are indifferent to the fate of Ukraine as an independent country. NATO countries, he stressed, are doing everything to prevent the completion of the special operation in Ukraine by reaching political agreements between Moscow and Kyiv.

The US and NATO should stop supplying weapons to Kyiv if they really want to resolve the Ukrainian crisis, the head of the Foreign Ministry said. According to him, the Ukrainian people do not need Stinger MANPADS and Javelin anti-tank missiles, but urgent humanitarian issues.
"Secondly, it is necessary that Kyiv stop cynical provocations, including in the information space," Lavrov added.

He noted that the Ukrainian armed formations, using civilians as a "human shield", carry out "barbarous shelling of cities", and also "with animal cruelty" mock Russian prisoners of war, publishing this on the Internet.
"And at the same time, with the help of their Western patrons and the global media controlled by the Westerners, they accuse the Russian army of war crimes. They shift, as we say, the responsibility for what is happening from a sick head to a healthy one," the minister added.

According to him, it is high time for the West to stop unconditionally "whitewashing" and covering Kyiv, otherwise Washington, Brussels and other Western capitals should be aware of the responsibility for complicity in bloody crimes.

https://ria.ru/20220430/lavrov-1786282585.html

PapaDragon wrote:

Oh c'mon, it's ATGM not fighter jet, any moron can use it

This excuse is pure bullshit  

Don't be pussies all your lives, get in there and just fucking die already like you are supposed to

This is what you volunteered for

Are they all volunteers? Any of them press ganged ?

flamming_python wrote:

Just a pure coincidence he climbed out of Azovstal and happened to be a confirmed Nazi 10 years ago

Not proof of anything, nope

I am not his advocate and generally, whatever waits for him is 100x better than cannibalism by Azov. And for his 11-year-old it's a chance for life.

But it seems that real civilian hostages are 100% confirmed now.

The picture of him throwing siegheils in 2012 in Azovstal (old work uniforms) itself only proves that-

Both of them are simple factory workers. People of the land. The common clay of Ukraine. You know… morons.

There would be much more from him if he was an actual nazi.

His wife is actually the one who posted these pictures on VK, haha...

And she is not the sniper as mentioned, confirmed as FAKE by Izvestiya. Check this with

https://iz.ru/1328547/2022-04-30/pokinuvshuiu-azovstal-zhenshchinu-zapodozrili-v-skhodstve-so-snaipershei~


https://m.vk.com/id169838853




She has St. Georgian Ribbon from 2013 and she has anti-nazi/anti-Rinat Akmhetov posts too from 2012, no Ukroshit, just boomerish crap everyone post on VK.

At least she is not a nazi and in this day Ukrainians would be the ones judging her, not Russians.

If you think about it, how the **** would Azov fill Azovstal with their families - most of the Azov are not even from Mariupol, plenty of Western Ukrainians are serving there.

But I agree that Russia should be very careful who is leaving Azovstal now and I hope civilians will be able to identify and testify to what happened.

flamming_python wrote:

She bears an awful resemblance to that Ukrainian sniper woman and shares the same first name. Different surname, but that might be because she got married to her Azov husband and took his family name.

Well, the leader of Azov did say that a lot of marriages were happening in Azovstal'

Wonder if that's what they did and this is just someone's else's kid they ended up with, or if they're a real family.

Haha, never thought you will go so far with assumptions. Just read that article, she is a Russian-speaking woman with an 11-year-old kid, it would take 5 minutes for Russia to check it, knowing details are available now. Metrics, proof of birth, marriage certificate?

You will go crazy if you will assume that all Ukrainian civilians are crypto-nazis. There will be thousands of similar situations like this and it's important not to alienate them as they will be the ones living there, not some colonists.

Regular wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Just a pure coincidence he climbed out of Azovstal and happened to be a confirmed Nazi 10 years ago

Not proof of anything, nope

I am not his advocate and generally, whatever waits for him is 100x better than cannibalism by Azov. And for his 11-year-old it's a chance for life.

But it seems that real civilian hostages are 100% confirmed now.

The picture of him throwing siegheils in 2012 in Azovstal (old work uniforms) itself only proves that-

Both of them are simple factory workers. People of the land. The common clay of Ukraine. You know… morons.

There would be much more from him if he was an actual nazi.

His wife is actually the one who posted these pictures on VK, haha...

And she is not the sniper as mentioned, confirmed as FAKE by Izvestiya. Check this with

https://iz.ru/1328547/2022-04-30/pokinuvshuiu-azovstal-zhenshchinu-zapodozrili-v-skhodstve-so-snaipershei~


https://m.vk.com/id169838853




She has St. Georgian Ribbon from 2013 and she has anti-nazi/anti-Rinat Akmhetov posts too from 2012, no Ukroshit, just boomerish crap everyone post on VK.

At least she is not a nazi and in this day Ukrainians would be the ones judging her, not Russians.

If you think about it, how the **** would Azov fill Azovstal with their families - most of the Azov are not even from Mariupol, plenty of Western Ukrainians are serving there.

But I agree that Russia should be very careful who is leaving Azovstal now and I hope civilians will be able to identify and testify to what happened.

flamming_python wrote:

She bears an awful resemblance to that Ukrainian sniper woman and shares the same first name. Different surname, but that might be because she got married to her Azov husband and took his family name.

Well, the leader of Azov did say that a lot of marriages were happening in Azovstal'

Wonder if that's what they did and this is just someone's else's kid they ended up with, or if they're a real family.

Haha, never thought you will go so far with assumptions. Just read that article, she is a Russian-speaking woman with an 11-year-old kid, it would take 5 minutes for Russia to check it, knowing details are available now. There is no hiding. Tho on Ukrainian Cadaver Group (pardon the name) there was a video of one Ukrainian woman shot dead in Mariupol. According to the one filming - she was a sniper who killed 7 guys. She was put into the carpet that was tied around the stick and "evacuated" for whatever reason...

You will go crazy if you will assume that all Ukrainian civilians are crypto-nazis. There will be thousands of similar situations like these couple. This why Russia got the lists for Ukrainians and foreigners.

To me it looked like the same person but then again, I didn't study it in detail.

The guys on the ground who captured them are better placed to find out if they are true civilians or not, much more than any of us online experts.
I would assume a proportion of the fighters would be from Mariupol since the unit was formed there was it not? Also having all the privileges as they do, they could have easily based their immediate families there with them.

Either way, if any of the “civilians” are found to be members of Azov, they don't deserve any mercy, actual civilians will of course get help as they have since the beginning of the SO.

Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

High-precision air-based missiles of the Russian Aerospace Forces have hit 5 Ukrainian military assets.

Among them: 4 ammunition and fuel depots near Berezovoe, Vozdvizhenka, Pokrovskoe and Barvenkovo, as well as 1 area of concentration of the nationalists' manpower and military equipment.

Operational-tactical and army aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces have hit 9 areas of Ukrainian manpower and military equipment concentration overnight.

Up to 120 nationalists, 4 tanks and 6 armoured vehicles were destroyed.

Missile troops have hit 4 Ukrainian military facilities during the night: 2 command posts of AFU units, 1 battery of multiple rocket launchers and 1 radar station.

Artillery units have carried out 389 firing missions during the night.

Among them: 35 command posts, 41 strong points, 169 areas of manpower and military equipment concentration, 33 artillery positions, and 15 missile-artillery weapons and ammunition depots.

Russian air defence means have shot down 18 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles, including 3 Bayraktar TB-2s, over Gorlovka, Chervonyi Oskol, Krasnogovka, Petmanovo, Kramatorsk, Kozinka, Karpovka, Putilino, Novoakhtyrka, Bezlikyi Liman and Peremoga.

Also during the night, 2 rockets of Ukrainian Smerch multiple-launch rocket systems were shot down over Gorlovka in the Donetsk People's Republic and Snezhkovka in Kharkov Region.

In total, 142 aircraft and 112 helicopters, 658 unmanned aerial vehicles, 279 anti-aircraft missile systems, 2,656 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 307 multiple launch rocket systems, 1,189 field artillery and mortars, as well as 2,492 units of special military vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed during the operation.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine #Briefing
@mod_russia_en

The Premiere of British Virgin Islands has been arrested by the U.S. Apparently he was into drug trafficking though U.S authorities have not provided any credible evidence to support their case.

I was thinking if taking a leaf out of the U.S military presence in Poland and Ukraine, Russia can reach out to the virgin Islands and offer them some security by placing a few IRBMs and S-500 regiments out there.

Isos wrote:1 month life. Getting worse and worse reputation.

Shows that deliveries are ongoing. All the ones UA operated by late February (30-40 pcs?) were shot down long ago, the ongoing shootdowns since are of fresh deliveries.