Russian special military operation in Ukraine #18

Arkanghelsk wrote:

At best some 30mm guns, but if 22160 will be performing coastal duties, it would be better to have an air defense attached, and cruise missiles,

But because the general staff and the district commanders are army oriented- for economic reasons , because that strategy is orders of magnitude cheaper then to give the air force and navy what they NEED

Then it's obvious that this equipment is more necessary then some artillery patrol ship which cannot secure even a small island or provide escort duties for the flagship of the fleet

If Kremlin doesn't wish to end up with such an egg on its face, it will open the coffers for greater VMF investment, and begin to listen to admirals rather then infantry and mechanized officers about the needs of the fleet

Project 22160 was never intended for operations like this war. It is a long range, long endurance patrol and anti-piracy ship. It can be multirole ship due to pretty decent size. You can even turn it into VLS carrier with good AA defence, but then you will lose long endurance characteristic as a trade off.

I understand such a project was not meant for this,

The problem is not the project, but that wrong class of ships were built

Such a military operation can occur at any time

In the Black sea, the VMF has wanted 500 ton ships with missiles and pantsir

But due to issues with Pella shipyard, and Zvezda, that class got fucked up

This kind of operation was always a possibility

But stopgaps do not exist ,

Probably its the politicians fault who wanted to cash in on peace dividend

But the black sea flot was always in need of ships

At least small ships meant for neighbor wars against Ukraine, Turkey, And even Romania or Moldova

Karakurt was a good choice, but it has problems

I'd crank out more Buyan, but that ship has even less space for a pantsir module

Bykov has adequate space for a pantsir module and a missile VLS

*** edit stavropol of the buyan series supposedly will have pantsir

It's unfortunate this is the last ship of the series

Arkanghelsk wrote:I understand such a project was not meant for this,

The problem is not the project, but that wrong class of ships were built

Such a military operation can occur at any time

In the Black sea, the VMF has wanted 500 ton ships with missiles and pantsir

But due to issues with Pella shipyard, and Zvezda, that class got fucked up

This kind of operation was always a possibility

But stopgaps do not exist ,

Probably its the politicians fault who wanted to cash in on peace dividend

But the black sea flot was always in need of ships

At least small ships meant for neighbor wars against Ukraine, Turkey, And even Romania or Moldova

Karakurt was a good choice, but it has problems

I'd crank out more Buyan, but that ship has even less space for a pantsir module

Bykov has adequate space for a pantsir module and a missile VLS

*** edit stavropol of the buyan series supposedly will have pantsir

It's unfortunate this is the last ship of the series

Yes it does have enough space. I even think that Algeria wanted to buy in such configuration. Still, even this "vanilla" project 22160 are needed. If you remember they used to send very big ships to fight piracy off Somalia coast. I think Vinogradov was one of them. It was complete overkill, and also pretty expensive.

GarryB wrote:As I have mentioned the Naval TOR (Klintok) has traditionally been used on big heavy ships as a defence against anything small that could sneak through the defences of the bigger missiles they carry... it could swat down drones and missiles and bombs and all sorts of threats, but was designed for an used on big ships only.

Why use the naval TOR then? They can use the naval BUK-3.

RTN wrote:

GarryB wrote:As I have mentioned the Naval TOR (Klintok) has traditionally been used on big heavy ships as a defence against anything small that could sneak through the defences of the bigger missiles they carry... it could swat down drones and missiles and bombs and all sorts of threats, but was designed for an used on big ships only.

Why use the naval TOR then?  They can use the naval BUK-3.

So why bother with RIM-116/162 on USN  ships then? Might as well use RIM-174

Paul Craig Roberts is a kremlin critic except from the hawkish side. I cant help but agree with some of his takes. Here's some quotes. I hope to have constructive discussion about these neuonces but ill probably get some petty piling on by the usual suspects.

link https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/06/05/how-many-more-red-lines-can-be-crossed-before-armageddon-arrives/

I have said from the beginning that the Kremlin is reactive, not proactive, and only slowly reactive. The consequence is that the Kremlin’s red lines mean nothing to the West. Even when under extreme duress, the Kremlin only allowed itself a limited military intervention in eastern Ukraine where residents are ethnic Russian. To the neoconservatives controlling Western foreign policy, this appears as irresolution, so the West presses on. Red line after Red line is crossed, and the Kremlin does nothing. It took EIGHT YEARS for the Kremlin to react to the slaughter of Donbass Russians, and only did so after the West laughed at the Kremlin’s security concerns and dismissed them out of hand. Russia’s conduct of its foreign policy shows irresolution, and this invites more provocations. The Kremlin shows inability to comprehend the dilemma it creates for itself.

The media reports that Russian forces are about to be rolled up by democratic Ukrainians using American weapons. The unreality of this fantasy means more red lines will be crossed.


Putin’s humanity, his toleration of provocations, his reluctance to use force has encouraged the West to press harder. Sooner or later a red line is going to be crossed from which there is no recovery.

These statements from Russian leaders indicate that the Idiot West has pushed beyond the fatal Red Line

Russian air defence means have shot down

2 MiG-29 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force near Snegirevka, Nikolaev Region, as well as1 Mi-8 helicopter near Belaya Krinitsya, Nikolaev Region.

In addition,

11 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles have been shot down near Donetsk, Rubtsy, Lozovoe, Krasnorechenskoe, Koroviy Yar, Peski Rad’kovskoe in Donetsk People’s Republic, Izyum, Dergachi in Kharkov Region and Chernobaivka in Kherson Region.3 Tochka-U missiles and5 Smerch rockets have been intercepted near Chernobaevka, Kherson Region.

Missile and artillery have hit

68 command posts,172 AFU artillery positions, including2 batteries of Smerch multiple-launch rocket systems near Aleksandrovka and Kutuzovka,1 battery of Uragan MLRS near Kitsevka, Kharkov region, as well as261 areas of AFU manpower and military equipment concentration.

The attacks have resulted in the elimination of more than

320 nationalists,4 ammunition depots near Novolenovka in Zaporozhye Region,9 armoured vehicles,3 Grad multiple rocket launchers,15 field artillery and mortars,14 special vehicles, andBuk-M1 surface-to-air missile launchers near Shelkoplyasy and OSA-AKM in Verhnyaya Roganka in Kharkov Region.

During the liberation of Svyatogorsk in Donetsk People’s Republic in three days of fighting alone, Ukrainian troops suffered:

losses of over 300 nationalists,six tanks,5 armoured combat vehicles of various types,36 field artillery guns and mortars,4 Grad multiple rocket launchers andover 20 automotive equipment.

High-precision air-based missiles have hit armoured plant near Kharkov, which have been repairing and restoring tanks and other AFU armoured vehicles.

In addition, high-precision air-based missiles have hit

2 command posts, 13 areas of AFU manpower and military equipment concentration, as well as1 battery of Uragan multiple-launch rocket systems near Kharkov.4 weapon and ammunition depots have been destroyed near Malinovka in Kharkov Region, Spornoe in Donetsk People’s Republic and Zvanovka in Lugansk People’s Republic.1 fuel depot for AFU equipment has been destroyed near Chuhuev, Kharkov Region.

Operational-tactical aviation have hit

63 areas of AFU manpower and military equipment concentration.

The attacks have resulted in the elimination of

command post of 14th AFU Mechanized Brigade,over 160 nationalists,8 tanks,2 Grad multiple rocket launchers,1 artillery battery,1 electronic warfare station and13 vehicles of various purposes.

A Canadian journalist reporting for CBC News Canada the views of Ukrainian soldiers in Bakhmut.

Looks like some realism is starting to penetrate Western reporting.

Throughout more than three months of war, Ukrainian troops have largely held Russian forces at bay. With skilful tactics and grim determination, Ukrainian defenders have pushed Moscow's troops away from the capital, Kyiv, and forced them to abandon designs for capturing the entire country.

But in the country's east, where Russian forces are intensifying efforts on the embattled Donbas region, weeks of brutal combat have pushed the defenders to a breaking point.

Now, under ceaseless bombardment and after immense casualties, some Ukrainian troops say they are feeling abandoned by their leadership — left to die in hopeless conditions.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/eastern-ukraine-bakhmut-soldiers-exhausted-1.6278984

Backman wrote:Paul Craig Roberts is a kremlin critic except from the hawkish side. I cant help but agree with some of his takes. Here's some quotes. I hope to have constructive discussion about these neuonces but ill probably get some petty piling on by the usual suspects.

link https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/06/05/how-many-more-red-lines-can-be-crossed-before-armageddon-arrives/

I have said from the beginning that the Kremlin is reactive, not proactive, and only slowly reactive.  The consequence is that the Kremlin’s red lines mean nothing to the West.  Even when under extreme duress, the Kremlin only allowed itself a limited military intervention in eastern Ukraine where residents are ethnic Russian.  To the neoconservatives controlling Western foreign policy,  this appears as irresolution, so the West presses on.  Red line after Red line is crossed, and the Kremlin does nothing. It took EIGHT YEARS for the Kremlin to react to the slaughter of Donbass Russians, and only did so after the West laughed at the Kremlin’s security concerns and dismissed them out of hand.   Russia’s conduct of its foreign policy shows irresolution, and this invites more provocations. The Kremlin shows inability to comprehend the dilemma it creates for itself.

The media reports that Russian forces are about to be rolled up by democratic Ukrainians using American weapons. The unreality of this fantasy means more red lines will be crossed.


Putin’s humanity, his toleration of provocations, his reluctance to use force has encouraged the West to press harder. Sooner or later a red line is going to be crossed from which there is no recovery.

These statements from Russian leaders indicate that the Idiot West has pushed beyond the fatal Red Line

Although I don't like his tone, his points are reasonable.
The west will push and push unless you give them a bloody nose.

Hole wrote:

What type of vehicle is this?

Arkanghelsk wrote:Russian air defence means have shot down

2 MiG-29 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force near Snegirevka, Nikolaev Region, as well as1 Mi-8 helicopter near Belaya Krinitsya, Nikolaev Region.

etc etc etc

Arkanghelsk wrote:During the liberation of Svyatogorsk in Donetsk People’s Republic in three days of fighting alone, Ukrainian troops suffered:

losses of over 300 nationalists,six tanks,5 armoured combat vehicles of various types,36 field artillery guns and mortars,4 Grad multiple rocket launchers andover 20 automotive equipment.

etc etc etc

These two posts just repeat the contents of Post 291 of 9.39 this morning split over two posts.

Why?

Belayed reports from yesterday, I didn't have time or energy to compile the usual briefing but came across two interesting analysis, one is by Strelkov, yes, but it has merits to be posted

https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/06/08/parte-de-guerra-07-06-2022/

Backman wrote:I have said from the beginning that the Kremlin is reactive, not proactive, and only slowly reactive.  The consequence is that the Kremlin’s red lines mean nothing to the West.  

If the collective West wants a war that badly with the Russians they'll eventually get one, what Paul Craig Roberts doesn't understand is if/when that day comes, it will be on Russia's terms, not the US or NATO's.

Even when under extreme duress, the Kremlin only allowed itself a limited military intervention in eastern Ukraine where residents are ethnic Russian.  

Russia never said the Special Military Operation is or will be limited to Eastern Ukraine only, did he not see the 1000+ Kalibr & Iskander missiles flying all over the country destroying Bandera's war-fighting capabilities?

To the neoconservatives controlling Western foreign policy,  this appears as irresolution, so the West presses on.  

If western leadership is too stupid (or uncaring) to see how their asinine foreign policy is hurting their own countries more than Russia, that's not Russia's problem. Enjoy your $5-10/Gallon gas, assholes!

Red line after Red line is crossed, and the Kremlin does nothing.   

Yeah, this Special Military Operation is nothing. 70,000 Russian troops are doing nothing in the Donbass.

It took EIGHT YEARS for the Kremlin to react to the slaughter of Donbass Russians, and only did so after the West laughed at the Kremlin’s security concerns and dismissed them out of hand. 

It did so after the Bandera Regime parked 60-100k troops in the LDPR contact line ready to annihilate the resistance and kill 10's of thousands of Donbass residents indiscriminately. Obviously it's Russia's fault for giving the Ukraine a chance to resolve this conflict peacefully through the Minsk 2 agreements.

Russia’s conduct of its foreign policy shows irresolution, and this invites more provocations. The Kremlin shows inability to comprehend the dilemma it creates for itself.

The constant provocations are meant to lead Russia to making bad and hasty decisions which will destroy the federation and lead to a Yugoslavia 2.0 Balkanization, essentially doing NATO's job for them. Is he honestly complaining that Russia is taking a careful, balanced approach to dealing with and countering the hostile actions of the Fourth Reich (US/EU/NATO) instead of giving them exactly what they want?

The media reports that Russian forces are about to be rolled up by democratic Ukrainians using American weapons. The unreality of this fantasy means more red lines will be crossed.

So the collective West gets their propaganda outlets to tell lies to a gullible western audience and this is somehow Russia's problem to fix? 

Putin’s humanity, his toleration of provocations, his reluctance to use force has encouraged the West to press harder. Sooner or later a red line is going to be crossed from which there is no recovery.

I think that's already happened, the problem is Paul is thinking WW3 when it most likely means that Russia will simply divorce itself from the West. Russia will allow the EU to put up a new Iron Curtain around themselves and screech at Russia from their monkey cages while their economy goes to shit because they've decided that cheap, abundant Russian resources aren't as important as the "Great Reset" and the great hunger and hypothermia that'll surely come with it. 

Russia can only take care of Russia in the end, they're not going to try and save Europe or the United States from themselves. Almost every European country that Russia's helped and shed blood for over the last 300 years have turned against them and I can only hope when those same asshole countries beg Russia to sacrifice blood to save them again, the Russians politely decline their offer and shut the door on their ugly faces.

flamming_python wrote:

But you can't use your helicopter. Which is bad for a patrol ship or any other military ship. Helicopters help a lot.

Tor has small missiles. They could have integrated it ibto the ship since the begining.

It's a Bykov, it's a multirole modular ship. The helicopter pad can also be loaded with Kalibr containers if that's what you need a Bykov for.

It needs helicopters for ASW or patrol duties. However if its on anti-aircraft duty or itself with cargo in the hold, then what it needs is a Tor on deck[/quote]


I dont think that Tor on helipad is final solution and not just testing in combat conditions. There was info couple years ago about Tor for smal lships in on autonomous container. i.e, no other radars/computers have to be installed in minimal config.


Original project had option to install VLS Shtill module between gun and superstructure. So there is a place. As for patrol duties there is intensive conflict and AA/AM defence is of crucial importance .

BTW after TOR some ASW torpedoes and we got nice corvette

Ispan wrote:Belayed reports from yesterday, I didn't have time or energy to compile the usual briefing but came across two interesting analysis, one is by Strelkov, yes, but it has merits to be posted

https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/06/08/parte-de-guerra-07-06-2022/

Follow up, special report on yesterday and today

https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/06/08/parte-de-guerra-08-06-2022-informe-especial/

Backman wrote:Paul Craig Roberts is a kremlin critic except from the hawkish side. I cant help but agree with some of his takes. Here's some quotes. I hope to have constructive discussion about these neuonces but ill probably get some petty piling on by the usual suspects.
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It took EIGHT YEARS for the Kremlin to react to the slaughter of Donbass Russians, and only did so after the West laughed at the Kremlin’s security concerns and dismissed them out of hand.   Russia’s conduct of its foreign policy shows irresolution, and this invites more provocations. The Kremlin shows inability to comprehend the dilemma it creates for itself.

do you realize what would be effect of current sanctions 8 years ago? China and India together 1/2 of US economy. Russia without electronics, food and actually anything including reserves. Now Russia is much more resilient, better prepared for current war. And China India are 2x of US economy. So THATS WHY it took 8 years. Probably there is still a bit too early yet I think there was no other way out.


BTW with president like Biden US doesn't need any enemies

Ispan wrote:

Ispan wrote:Belayed reports from yesterday, I didn't have time or energy to compile the usual briefing but came across two interesting analysis, one is by Strelkov, yes, but it has merits to be posted

https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/06/08/parte-de-guerra-07-06-2022/

Follow up, special report on yesterday and today

https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/06/08/parte-de-guerra-08-06-2022-informe-especial/

Part of war 06/08/2022 - special report
8 June, 2022 Zhukov

YESTERDAY 07 JUNE

Summary of Readovka

https://readovka .news/news/100020

Summary of combat operations of June 7, 2022 - Vladislav Ugolny

Briefly:

... Direction Kharkpv-front line unchanged. The fighting continues along the Tsupovka - Dementievka - Rubezhnoye line. To the south, near Chuguev and Balakleya — fog of war.

PAVLOGRAD ARCH:

Northern flank of the arch (from Izyum to Popasnaya) – in the Izyum area, the fighting continues in the area of Velikaya Kamyshevakha, Vernopol, Kurulka. From Dolgenky, the units of the 20 Army crossed the border of the DPR in the direction of Krasnopol. To the east, the clearing of the forest continues, about a third of it is controlled by the Russians. At the same time, there are reports of fighting on the outskirts of Bogorodichny. The left bank of the Seversky Donets River in the Donbas is controlled by the Russians after the liberation of Svyatogorsk, the remaining units are being cleaned up. Information about the crossing of the river and the occupation of the Svyatogorskaya Lavra is premature. To the east, the village of Ilyichevka was liberated, the front - along the Donets River to Verodonetsk. There, the fighting continues in the industrial zone and the suburbs: the Armed Forces of Ukraine were knocked out of positions south of Borovsky, Sirotino and Voronovo, near the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in Metelkino, fighting.

Central Front (from Zolotoe to Marinka) - In Bakhmutka, the fighting continues between Toshkovka and Ustinovka, Orekhovo and Gorsky. In the Zolotoye district, fighting on the eastern outskirts of Kamyshevakha and on the approaches to Vrubovka. In the direction of the Artyomovsk — Lisichansk highway, there are fights from Stryapovka to Nikolaevka, but the route is not physically cut off. From Soledar to Svitlodarsk, unchanged: attempts to dislodge the Ukrainians from the positions around the Uglegorsk thermal power plant and break through the front in the north-east of Gorlovka continue. In the Avdiivka area — tactical advances in the Krasnohorivka area, in the Marinka area — unchanged.

Southern flank of the arch (from the Dnieper River to Marinka) - the front line has not changed. It is reported about the accumulation of Ukrainian forces for an offensive in the Gulyai-Pole area. Also in the Vasilyevka area - shelling and tactical actions in the area of islands on the Kakhovsky reservoir.

Kherson-Nikolayev address: Ukrainian offensive in the Davydov Brod area has been repulsed, there is unconfirmed information about the Russian counteroffensive in the Velikoe Artakovo area.

Battle of Severodonetsk - Taking of Borovskoye

https://antifashist.com/item/posle-razgroma-vsu-v-severodonecke-rossijskaya-armiya-razygraet-taktiku-severnyj-cvetok.html

Most relevant fragments:

Importance of this advance
On June 7, units of the People's Militia of the DPI, together with the Russian army, recaptured one of the last fortified points near Severodonetsk from the nationalists. Parts of the Russian Armed Forces that occupied the pueblode Borovskoye, which is located twelve miles southeast of Severodonetsk, on the left bank of the river Seversky Donets, blocked the city along the offensive line and deprived the enemy of a corridor to escape.
Borovskoye is actually the "gateway to Lisichansk", from where the offensive will develop to the flank of the Ukrainian forcesa. The city, in fact, opens the way for a new strategic offensive.
The enemy abandons fortifications without a fight and flees
In the abandoned positions of the nationalists, our servicemen found kilometers of trenches, well-equipped machine-gun nests, even dugouts for shelter from artillery. But the offensive of the allied alliance of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of the PRL went so quickly that the militants, without hesitation, retreated to residential buildings and covered themselves with a human shield, as they have done more than once.



TODAY 08 JUNE

advance to Slavyansk

12:00

Local sources in Svyatogorsk report that the Russian army liberated the village of Tetianovka today, 20 kilometers from the city of Slavyansk,

The Ukrainian group in the Donbass is suffering significant losses in troops, weapons and armor. During the liberation of Svyatogorsk in the Donetsk People's Republic, for three days of fighting, the losses of Ukrainian troops amounted to more than three hundred nationalists, six tanks, 15 armored fighting vehicles of various types, 36 pieces of field artillery and mortars, four Grad multiple rocket launchers and more than twenty vehicles.

Over the past day, Russian air defense systems shot down two Ukrainian MIG-29 aircraft and one Mi-8 helicopter in the Mykolaiv region. In Severodonetsk, Ukrainian formations retain control only over a small part of the Severodonetsk chemical unit "Azot", where snipers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are actively working.

Results of damage from shelling on the night of June 7-8, 2022.(Rybar)

Last night, the main attacks of the Russian Armed Forces were carried out in the Kharkov region. The place of deployment of the Forces of Ukraine in the shopping center "Delight" in Kharkovwas destroyed. Local residents also reported "arrivals" to Saltovka, Kholodka, and the city center. Artillery and aircraft attacked the enemy's positionsin Artemovsk (Bakhmut). Shelling of Ukrainian positions in Lisichansk and the vicinity of Severodonetsk continues. In Nikolaev in the places of concentration of the enemy were surprised by numerous salvos of rocket launcher forces. In the Sumy region, Russian forces fired on Ukrainian forces in Shostka. In the Zaporizhia region, damage was inflicted on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the villages of Tavricheskoye and Kamyshevakha.

This morning on the Izyum front (like yesterday morning) began with artillery strikes on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Another surprise for the Ukrainians was the "arrival" of Iskander missiles at 8 o'clock in the morning.

Battle for Severodonetsk 11:30





13:30

the main struggle on June 8 unfolds in the Severodonetsk-Lisichansk agglomeration

The Russian Armed Forces are clearing the outskirts of Severodonetsk and fighting near the Azot plant.

According to "Go and see", the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine transferred foreign mercenaries near Severodonetsk, and the fighting broke out with a new force. However, the attempt to counterattack the Ukrainian army failed.

Isolated units of Ukraine retreat in disarray to Lisichansk. At the same time, according to sources, the Ukrainians managed to prevent a mass flight from the positions with the help of detachments of foreign fighters. Now the Ukrainian units in the Severodonetsk area will die or be captured.

After the final capture and cleansing of Severodonetsk, the offensive of the Russian Armed Forces will unfold in Lisichansk with the prospect of reaching Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. The Izyum group of troops of the Russian Armed Forces is also advancing on Slavyansk and Kramatorsk.

In general, the most reasonable solution for the Armed Forces of Ukraine seems to be an organized withdrawal. However, this is hampered by the country's political leadership. So much the worse for the Ukrainian army

13:40

Kiev has abandoned attempts to break through to the Zaporozhye region, there is panic in its ranks, the region will be completely liberated, a member of the military-civilian administration of the region Rogov told RIA Novosti.

16:00 reports of the DPR spokesman Eduard Basurin

https://antimaydan.info/2022/06/basurin_o_situacii_v_dnr.html

Near Avdeyevka, our units discovered a concentration of enemy troops and materiel. With accurate blows, the Nazis were destroyed. More than 700 soldiers were killed.

Comment: Neither Basurin nor the reports of the Russian side usually make gratuitous claims. It's a very high figure but possible, after all in Zelenopolye in 2014, an entire Ukrainian brigade was destroyed by camping for the night without security measures and was bombarded by a full salvo from one of the first Grad rocket launchers that the Novorussians captured. Even if the results are overestimated, the truth is that the punishment for shelling and airstrikes causes several hundred casualties to the Ukrainian army per day.

***

Ukrainian security forces fired 605 shells at the DPR during the day, killing nine civilians.





The General Staff of Ukraine reports that Russian troops are storming the village of Berestovo, which is located on the Bakhmut-Lisichansk highway.
The capture of this village will allow the Russian army to completely block this important line of transport communication from the enemy

The situation near Popasna at 22.00 on June 8, 2022



Fierce fighting continues on the border. Yakovlevka-Belogorovka-Berestovoe-Nikolaevka.

Wagner assault detachments continue their offensive in the direction of Bakhmut and are fighting on the approaches to Pokrovsky.

In Bakhmut, Russian aviation carried out an airstrike on the buildings of a school and a pre-trial detention center where Ukrainian troops were quartered, as well as on targets in Paraskoviyevka, north of the city.

The Ukrainian army is preparing a reserve defense line behind the Bakhmut-Seversk highway, in case of an advance of the Russian Armed Forces. Anti-tank units of the 14th mechanized brigade equipped with Western-made anti-tank systems are located in Markkovo and Bondarnom.

The units of the People's Militia of the DPR continue to fight for Volugansk. The enemy controls the village and the territory of the Uglegorsk thermal power plant.

Units of the People's Militia of the PRL, advancing from the south, occupied the eastern part of Katerynivka.

Mine in the northern part of Toshkovka was completely cleared of enemy troops by units of the People's Militia of the PRL.

Comment: Finally! this village has been fought for weeks, it narrows the Gorskoye-Zolotoye exchange

Summary 08 June 21:30 - Boris Rozhin

1. Severodonetsk.

The fighting continues in the industrial zone of the city, as well as in the villages of Borovskoye, Voronovo and Metelkino. The fortified area near Borovsky has been partially violated. The enemy is concentrating his efforts on maintaining the Azot plant and adjacent buildings.

2. Svyatogorsk.
The clearing of forests in the Svyatogorsk area continues, as well as the fighting in the Lavra (monastery) area, where the enemy maintains a presence on the heights and prevents the Russian Armed Forces from expanding the captured bridgeheads on the other bank of the Seversky Donets. There are also reports of the occupation of the villages of Sosnovoye and Tatianovka by the Russians. In some areas, Slavyansk is 18-20 kilometers away.
3. Izyum
Russian Forces continued their attacks in the Krasnopol and Dolgenkoe area, as well as the battles for Bogorodichnoye. There are no changes in the Kurulka and Bolshaya Kamyshevakha districts.
4. Kharkiv.
Positional battles north of the outskirts of the city continued. In response to the shelling of border villages in the Belgorod and Kursk regions, attacks on Ukrainian positions in the Kharkov and Sumy regions intensified. The main line of the front, Kazachaya Lopan - Liptsy-Ternovoe-Rubezhnoye, is still preserved.
5. Zolotoye.
Fighting continued in the Vrubovka area, as well as on the southern outskirts of Zolotoye. North of Gorskoye, fighting continued in the Ustinovka and Toshkovka areas.(village already taken)

6. Soledar.
High-intensity fighting continued on the Artemivsk-Lisichansk highway, near Berestovoye and Belogorovka. In fact, a battle of opposites is being waged here, as the Russian Forces are trying to physically cut off the road, and the Ukrainian Forces, on the contrary, are trying to drive the Russians away from the road by all means. At the same time, the Russians retain fire control for most of its length. The Severodonetsk Group's supply has already been largely rebuilt through Seversk. Fighting also continued near Stryapovka.
7. Svitlodarsk.
The battles for the Novoluganskoe and Uglegorsk thermal power plants continued. Serious progress from this direction to Artemovsk will be difficult without taking the TPP (thermal power plant) and the fortified area located to the northwest. In addition, it is not yet possible to completely eliminate the enemy fortified area in the Pilipchatino area.
8. Avdeyevka.
Fighting continued near the Avdeyevka-Kostiantynivka highway. It is not yet possible to avaznar to the outskirts of Krasnogorovka (which is necessary in order to flank Avdeyevka from the north). Fighting continued near Novobakhmutovka and on the outskirts of NewYork.
9. Zaporozhe.
On the Kamenskoye-Orekhov-Gulyai-Pole-Velikaya Novoselovka line, positional battles continued. The front line does not undergo significant changes, although the enemy claims that Russian forces are preparing for an offensive towards the city
10. Kherson.
After a series of unsuccessful offensive actions and losses, the enemy temporarily went on the defensive in the Nikolayev and Krivoy Rog directions, but is preparing to resume offensive attempts, sending replacements to the battered units and strengthening the grouping operating in the Krivoy Rog directions



UKRAINE's Losses - Analysis by Colonel Cassad

on the statements of the US Air Force General Twitty https://bb-cntv.com/news/general-twitty-ukraines-losses-could-reach-200000-soldiers-63941 / about the losses of 200,000 men in Ukraine.

In my opinion, with all the disrespect to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, this figure is too high.
According to my estimates, in 3.5 months the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reach 80-90 thousand killed, wounded, prisoners, deserters and sick.

(among the dead including non-combat-related losses),

The officially announced figures for the mobilization of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, naturally, with a high degree of probability, differ from what actually exists, otherwise it would not be necessary to catch random passers-by in shops and at gas stations.

If, as they say in Kiev, you need to equip 5 brigades with a total number of up to 25,000 people and can't do this even after 3 months of fighting in the terms of delivery of various equipment from the West, then something is clearly wrong with the number projected population mobilised. And we did not even consider the problems of the combat capability of the Volkssturm brigades and the newly mobilized ones, which our soldiers have been encountering in the Donbas for quite some time (see, for example, the battles for Krasny Liman).

Other reports:

Southern Front the attacks on Davydov Brod (English)

https://www.stalkerzone.org/davydov-brod/

The American M777 guns do not live up to expectations

https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/336418/

Problems in the attack - Vladlen Tatarsky

Another reason why offensive operations are not going as fast as we would like (to put it mildly) is the lack of front-line intelligence (reconnaissance).

Instead of observing and obtaining information, reconnaissance companies and reconnaissance platoons perform the functions of assault infantry or simply infantry.

I must say that, of course, ideally, in the tactical-level intelligence units, there should be guys who are capable of such complex and painstaking work as reconnaissance using visual surveillance. Even more ideally, they should have cameras and other technical intelligence devices.

It is at the open firing points that fire damage should be dealt. Since surveillance is not carried out, and the infantry always claims that "they shoot at us from everywhere," instead of a specific target, the attack is applied to the entire microdistrict or forest plantation. Bombs and dozens of shells are thrown at the firing point, which could have been hit simply with an anti-tank guided missile (ATGM), but the target is not hit due to the fact that no one knows exactly where the fire is being fired from. As a result, the attackers suffer losses and until the area turns into a lunar crater, there is no progress.

I think reconnaissance is no less important than helicopters and counter-battery warfare

VIDEO

https://antimaydan.info/2022/06/frontovaya_svodka_na_utro_08_06_22.html

https://antimaydan.info/2022/06/1489264.html

In Empire news, the post of chief military priest was reinstated in Russia:
https://newizv.ru/news/society/08-06-2022/rpts-vernula-dorevolyutsionnuyu-dolzhnost-glavnogo-svyaschennika-armii-i-flota

Post was removed in 1918, as the Empire fell.