With all the fortifications, why doesn't Russia use Napalm. Artillery is not that effective against the trenches. Just load up the SU-25s dump them. At least threaten it if they don't surrender.
Because they don't give a shit about the western timetable to wrap this war up quick so they can move on to the next topic.
Also surrenders count more against morale than a good barbeque... and the Orcs are generally fighting in populated areas they did not allow locals to leave from... they are still in the east and south of the country relatively speaking where the opinions of the locals aren't nearly anti Russan enough for Kievs liking so as far as they are conserned the locals there are expendible.
The Kremlin has chosen a PR campaign of schizophrenia with various public figures each demonstrating some facet of Moscow's thinking, or virtue or temperament or whatever
Kadyrov is the assertive type, Medinsky was the dove albeit that didn't work out, Putin is the level-headed arbiter taking a middle position between everyone. Medvedev is the indignation and honest outrage.
Really... this is the Kremlins fault again?
I mean I understand all of the west being in perfect step under the same instructions coming from the same place... Washington... but even in the EU and HATO there are dissenting voices and contradictions... is that HATO and EU policy too?
Different people are different... it would be disturbing if all Russian officials all had exactly the same view of the situation and the same solutions to the problems and same reaction to the various escalations from the west... that would make Putins job easier because he would then not have to think at all and just take this perfect unified view of the situation for his decisions moving forward.
But like any country or group of people even if you have the same thoughts and beliefs, your views of what is happening and what they best reactions and solutions are can be quite different... you might have even noticed that here... some views even change over time... with more information and with a bit of perspective and less anger in your head...
And the emotionally charged language in Medvedev's quotes as of late add to it all that extra spice
It is an indication that many Russians have lost patience with the west and the idea of cooperation and friendship is gone so trying to meet the west half way is no longer a concern or even an interest.
It also lets those who have been demanding or hoping that Putin gets replaced all these years start to realise that he is not the worst choice where the west is concerned... in fact he was probably the best chance the west had... there are plenty of others that might appear sugar coated but once they had power at their command could turn into Stalins easily enough...
But you can't use your helicopter. Which is bad for a patrol ship or any other military ship. Helicopters help a lot.
It is not operating far from base... land based helicopters could be used if they are so critical. Close in air defence against drones and missiles would be rather more valuable IMHO.
This is a test setup. The final system will likely separate the sensors from the missiles so they can have deck mounted missile banks and place the sensors somewhere else...
Tor has small missiles. They could have integrated it ibto the ship since the begining.
It does but they weren't because the standard sensor mounts are huge....
The Kuznetsov has four sensor arrays for Klintok... one in each corner of the island above...
Look at the picture you could put the VLS just on the small area on the sides of the helicopter deck. It's a tiny VLS. There is also space on the front.
Pretty dumb they didn't designed it with Tor from the begining.
That is a test mount to see if it can be bolted to the ship deck and used.
The actual new system will have small fixed vertical launch tubes bolted to the deck in large containers and presumably have a search and tracking system mounted somewhere... perhaps off to one side or on top of the super structure so helicopters can still operate.
This new system is designed to be added on to existing ships so it could be added to the upgraded Udaloys etc etc.
Or remove that stupid artillery gun, at this point noone on the forum can argue in favor of it
Not even GarryB lol
This conflict has shown that gun directed fire is as effective as ever and a naval gun with a 180km range as projected for new 152mm rounds would be vastly more useful again.
For a patrol class ship it offers the chance to engage enemy ships without obliterating them and without costing millions of dollars..
Against small fast boat targets they are ideal.
I'm glad you've recovered and you don't doubt it anymore.
Submarines, just as many submarines as possible.
Submarines have been not much use in this conflict..... they are only effective when sinking things... which in the past was fine for the Soviet Union because it sent very little by sea. Russias future will be global and will be sent and received by sea so shipping will be critical to its future growth, so Russia sinking ships with subs creates the situation where the west can sink Russian ships and suffocate her growth and development.
First of all, better than no air defense in this sea area. This war will change a lot. On the one hand, also that every small ship, like my favorites, the little rocket boats, are all equipped with TOR. This is an obvious knowledge of this special surgery.
The photos of these tests are clear evidence that they want to mount TOR missiles on their smaller boats.
As I have mentioned the Naval TOR (Klintok) has traditionally been used on big heavy ships as a defence against anything small that could sneak through the defences of the bigger missiles they carry... it could swat down drones and missiles and bombs and all sorts of threats, but was designed for an used on big ships only.
This helicopter deck mount is an ability to test its systems and stability on a small boat underway at sea... they have simply taken the land based version and tied it down on the standard tie down positions on the helicopter landing pad.
They are working on a system that has fixed launch tubes and also a module with the search and tracking radars attached (with more missiles).
Presumably the idea is to mount the sensor module on ships and then put launcher mounts in different free places on the deck... bolted down and wired in.
For all we know they might be integrating the search radar and the tracking radar into the AESA radars of these small ships so perhaps all they actually need is the missile mounts on deck with no under deck reloading system like the Pantsir needs.
What might be even better is if they unify the missile tubes to allow a combination of the new TOR missiles with the newest reduced size anti drone missile versions and also the 9M100 missiles too... the latter could use initial command guidance to launch and head towards an incoming target where their ARH or IIR seeker could get a lock after launch to engage various targets...
Unfortunately for Ukraine it's biggest now is Nazism and neo Nazis and refugees, and the world doesn't want any of them......... Well not willingly
Russia wants them...
The whole issue is regulated by Rule 85, Sec. B.
It restricts the usage of weapons constructed deliberately for inflicting fire.
And further explains the 1938 ILA convention, article 8 :
Only the losers of conflcts have to worry about the rules of war.
The US 5.56mm rifle round was designed to fragment to make it more lethal... nobody cared... a few people claimed the Soviet 5.45mm rounds did the same but were proven wrong.
Currently US snipers prefer hollow point ammo which US lawyers have declared legal because they have hollow tips for aerodynamic reasons they say...
II. to pyrotechnics not normally likely to cause fires;
Which means it does not apply to thermobaric rounds which don't cause fires... they detonate and consume oxygen but don't cause fires.
The RPO family of engineer rockets includes three versions... a version that generates smoke (RPO-D), a version that starts fires (RPO-Z) and a thermobaric version RPO-A. The rocket for setting up a smoke screen is especially effective in enclosed buildings and bunkers, but can also be used to create smoke screens in the open. The RPO-Z is the incendiary rocket that starts fires...
- The Ukrainians are having problems with some munitions, e.g. their Smerch & Uragan MLRS systems rarely fire in volleys nowadays, mostly single shots
Obvious with the rate at which they are shot down...
- Securing Donbass won't automatically win the war
Was never intended to... that was a goal, but not the only goal... secure Donbass and other regions no longer wanting Kievs reign, demilitarise and denazify the rest of the territory....
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Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry 
The Ukrainian grouping in Donbass is suffering significant losses in manpower, weapons and military equipment.
High-precision air-based missiles have hit armoured plant near Kharkov, which have been repairing and restoring tanks and other AFU armoured vehicles. 
In total, 192 Ukrainian airplanes and 130 helicopters, 1,150 unmanned aerial vehicles, 335 anti-aircraft missile systems, 3,459 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 489 multiple launch rocket systems, 1,822 field artillery and mortars, as well as 3,488 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.
