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    Post  Backman Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:29 pm

    8 years ago after Crimea Russia was supposedly blocked from getting chips.
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    As I understand it , the highly sensitive chips that Russia needs in the S-500 for example , are Elbrus chips made in Russia. And the other chips that Russia uses are a dime a dozen and can be easily renamed and imported through 3rd countries.

    The top Elbrus chip can run Windows 7. I'm running windows 7 right now.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:34 pm

    Sujoy wrote:Buyan-M Class missile corvette firing eight SS-N-30 cruise missiles towards Ukraine


    Nope, it is 3M14 "Kalibr" (or simpler Caliber in english).
    No offense, but those NATO indices of Russian weapons are meaningless.
    These are Russian weapon systems and were manufactured in Russia. And all the other idiocies that start with F for Russian tactical aviation planes, like Fulcrum for MiG-29, Flanker for Su-27, Foxhound for MiG-31. Then we have Hokum-B for Ka-52, Havoc for Mi-28N, Halo for Mi-26. B for bombers; BLACKJACK for Tu-160. BS! That beautiful plane is the Tu-160.

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    Then come the two GREATEST idiocies; project 941 "AKULA" (NATO; Typhoon), 971 Schchuka-B (NATO; AKULA).  Mad
    WHY DIDN'T THEY MARK RUSSIAN TANKS WITH NATO INDEX ?

    Is it easier to write Su-57 or FELON, project 1144 "ORLAN" or KIROV, Ka-52 or Hokum-B, RVV-SD or AA-12 Adder, Mi-26 or HALO, Iskander or SS-26 "Stone", etc.
    I am glad that the two newest classes of russian submarines in the West are also marked (at least officially) by Russian project names, namely Borey and Yasen.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:50 pm

    Are you really getting bent out of shape over NATO callsigns on Russians weapons....

    Dam you must have lots of free time to comment about something so silly
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    Post  mnztr Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:22 pm

    With all the fortifications, why doesn't Russia use Napalm. Artillery is not that effective against the trenches. Just load up the SU-25s dump them. At least threaten it if they don't surrender.
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    Post  Mir Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:33 pm

    mnztr wrote:With all the fortifications, why doesn't Russia use Napalm. Artillery is not that effective against the trenches. Just load up the SU-25s dump them. At least threaten it if they don't surrender.

    Who needs napalm when you have fuel-air explosives (thermobaric) Wink

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:15 pm

    Having a good chuckle over Medvedev's outbursts

    Now he might be genuine, he might not be, but if he is then he is not speaking just for himself, rather the Russian elite in general, in particular the wing that favoured closer ties with Washington and/or the EU.

    The Kremlin has chosen a PR campaign of schizophrenia with various public figures each demonstrating some facet of Moscow's thinking, or virtue or temperament or whatever
    Kadyrov is the assertive type, Medinsky was the dove albeit that didn't work out, Putin is the level-headed arbiter taking a middle position between everyone. Medvedev is the indignation and honest outrage.

    And the emotionally charged language in Medvedev's quotes as of late add to it all that extra spice pirat
    Here we have a Russian elite that's furious over what it sees like an utter betrayal and contempt from the West, the West that it did so much for once. Over them attempting to crush Russia via the Ukraine, give it the Yugoslavia treatment. Over that whole Lisbon to Vladivostok motif being thrown out the window, and Russia subjected to the harshest sanctions possible, cancelled everywhere, over a problem the West itself made for Russia.

    But people like Medvedev and those sharing his opinion have only themselves to blame. Their rage is really an expression of their frustration with themselves. Any idiot could have told them that Russia wasn't part of the club, wasn't ever going to be, that the West treats it with only barely disguised contempt and in fact has spent the last 15 years attempting to launch a color revolution in Russia so that they can install their puppet as leader of it.

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    Post  diabetus Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:18 pm

    GarryB wrote:Note Kornet uses a target autotracker with the operator just pressing the button to launch the missile.

    Other systems they use do the same like TOR in optical mode and the missiles launched by their tanks and BMPs.

    Only the vehicle mounted version. The ground based tripod does not. It seems like it would be s useful addition, just buy it from Belarus.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:28 pm

    Mir wrote:
    mnztr wrote:With all the fortifications, why doesn't Russia use Napalm. Artillery is not that effective against the trenches. Just load up the SU-25s dump them. At least threaten it if they don't surrender.

    Who needs napalm when you have fuel-air explosives (thermobaric) Wink

    And the use of it is massive.
    Tons of Ukro corpses are burned, and some wounded POWs have serious burn wounds either.
    A devastating and nasty weapon that decimates morale.

    Some ODAB load was spotted under the sushkas, too.

    Each day is a bad day if you are Ukr ...

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    Post  Hole Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:29 pm

    ludovicense wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:TASS; 46 minutes ago
    Military operation in Ukraine

    Shoigu reported the capture of about 6.5 thousand ukrainian soldiers

    126 servicemen of Ukrainian Armed Forces surrender in five days, Russian Defense Ministry chief notes

    MOSCOW, June 7. / TASS /. The total number of captured Ukrainian servicemen reached 6,489. This was announced on Tuesday by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu at a conference call.

    Speaking about the interim results of the special military operation, Shoigu said that 126 AFU servicemen had been taken prisoner in five days, with a total of 6,489 people.

    https://n.tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14843259


    It is a bad indicator for the Ukrainian army, as it is a relatively low number compared to dead and seriously injured. It means that it is being destroyed. Denazification in progress and at full steam...

    It´s very hard to surrender to incoming artillery. Most of them are dead before a random russian soldier arrives at their position.

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    Post  caveat emptor Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:59 pm

    Bykov class with TOR in the back. Not sure if this is some ad hoc instalation or it's transporting TOR to Zmeini.
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    Post  kvs Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:57 pm

    Backman wrote:8 years ago after Crimea Russia was supposedly blocked from getting chips.
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    As I understand it , the highly sensitive chips that Russia needs in the S-500 for example , are Elbrus chips made in Russia. And the other chips that Russia uses are a dime a dozen and can be easily renamed and imported through 3rd countries.

    The top Elbrus chip can run Windows 7. I'm running windows 7 right now.


    A military computer uses DSPs and other ASICs and does not need 128 cores on the same die. The objective is not
    to run HPC codes (e.g. climate models) requiring massive floating point throughput and parallel computation. The original
    Elbrus CPU can be rendered on a 90 nm process in one of Russia's fabs. This VLIW architecture offloads onto the compiler
    what x86 does in hardware (branch prediction, out of order execution of micro-ops, etc.) so it does not need nose bleed
    lithography to be viable.

    The western commentary on this subject is a parade of inanity floating on total ignorance. This is not surprising considering
    who the NATzO deciders expected the Russian economy to fail after their "nuclear option" sanctions. This is the epic fail that
    everyone should focus on. The ragging on Russia is Pavlovian dog drool level.

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    Post  lyle6 Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:01 pm

    Hole wrote:

    It´s very hard to surrender to incoming artillery. Most of them are dead before a random russian soldier arrives at their position.

    Russians wouldn't mind the unleaded pork, but to risk summoning the resident Serbian advocate for Russian balls, the favor is hardly reciprocated.

    Sorry hohol, but you're going to have to endure a couple metric tonnes more of shells before POW slots open up.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:11 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:Bykov class with TOR in the back. Not sure if this is some ad hoc instalation or it's transporting TOR to Zmeini.
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #18 - Page 11 Img_2017

    This is what I asked about in the naval threads months ago

    This is not ad hoc, it was tested, and works great at AD

    16 missiles is great for Bykov

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    Post  Hole Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:17 pm

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    Post  Hole Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:18 pm

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    Post  Isos Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:22 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    caveat emptor wrote:Bykov class with TOR in the back. Not sure if this is some ad hoc instalation or it's transporting TOR to Zmeini.
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #18 - Page 11 Img_2017

    This is what I asked about in the naval threads months ago

    This is not ad hoc, it was tested, and works great at AD

    16 missiles is great for Bykov

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #18 - Page 11 Ftddkf10

    But you can't use your helicopter. Which is bad for a patrol ship or any other military ship. Helicopters help a lot.

    Tor has small missiles. They could have integrated it ibto the ship since the begining.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:33 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    caveat emptor wrote:Bykov class with TOR in the back. Not sure if this is some ad hoc instalation or it's transporting TOR to Zmeini.
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #18 - Page 11 Img_2017

    This is what I asked about in the naval threads months ago

    This is not ad hoc, it was tested, and works great at AD

    16 missiles is great for Bykov

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #18 - Page 11 Ftddkf10

    But you can't use your helicopter. Which is bad for a patrol ship or any other military ship. Helicopters help a lot.

    Tor has small missiles. They could have integrated it ibto the ship since the begining.

    I would agree, but what is good about this project is that it can carry a towed array cable from the transom , so it can carry the ASW module in the hold

    And launch the cable through the transom of the ship

    But I agree the Tor module blocks the deck from being lifted to launch Kalibr, or to land helicopters

    Hopefully they fix this

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    Post  Isos Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:40 pm

    Look at the picture you could put the VLS just on the small area on the sides of the helicopter deck. It's a tiny VLS. There is also space on the front.

    Pretty dumb they didn't designed it with Tor from the begining.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:59 pm

    Yeah, maybe when they perfect Gibka, it would be a good solution , or pantsir if they could fit it on the Bow

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    Or remove that stupid artillery gun, at this point noone on the forum can argue in favor of it

    Not even GarryB lol

    The Smo has shown that the obvious solutions are the better ones

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:16 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Yeah, maybe when they perfect Gibka, it would be a good solution , or pantsir if they could fit it on the Bow

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #18 - Page 11 Vasily10

    Or remove that stupid artillery gun, at this point noone on the forum can argue in favor of it

    Not even GarryB lol

    The Smo has shown that the obvious solutions are the better ones

    I'm glad you've recovered and you don't doubt it anymore.
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    Post  Backman Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:29 pm

    Not sure if real. Edit . It's real. The propagandists are making it seem like he's talking about Ukrainians when in reality he's talking about the Anglosphere.

    ⚡🇷🇺: Medvedev on his lit Telrgram posts

    "People often ask me why my Telegram posts are so harsh. The answer is that I hate them. They are bastards and scum. They want death for us, for Russia. And as long as I'm alive, I'll do anything to make them disappear."

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:23 am

    Podlodka77 wrote:TASS; 46 minutes ago
    Military operation in Ukraine

    Shoigu reported the capture of about 6.5 thousand ukrainian soldiers...

    Is this for the whole war? Because it would be minuscule number if it were

    Hopefully KIA count is bigger
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:30 am

    Scorpius wrote:The prosecutor of the Western District reports that 12 officers have been punished for the participation of conscripts in a military operation in Ukraine. All conscripts (there were about 600 of them) have already been returned to Russia.
    https://www.rbc.ru/politics/07/06/2022/629f13cb9a794701207acaf0

    Excellent news

    Now the same needs to be done with idiots who fucked up in the first week with ''no kill nazis'' orders and one who screwed up that river crossing






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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:35 am

    mnztr wrote:With all the fortifications, why doesn't Russia use Napalm. Artillery is not that effective against the trenches. Just load up the SU-25s dump them. At least threaten it if they don't surrender.

    Geneva says napalm is a no-no

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