TMA1 wrote:Excuse my ignorance but who is this guy? Is it an "expert" getting the same internet "insider" knowledge as us, or has he actually been in the thick of it? If he has seen it or heard first hand reliable reports from colleagues then sometimes what a military needs is scathing remarks. That said in that position you have to be careful talking in public as this is the thickest propaganda battle I've ever witnessed. But still sometimes fiery remarks are what is needed. If the guy is a random assholr then disregard previous remarks.
And yeah even patrol boats need at least pantsir or be under umbrella of serious air defense/fighter patrols.
Murz says he is a LPR fighter, unconfirmed but probable
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It's funny you mention this as I was going to comment about patrol ships
For example Bykov with CIWS and Tor can travel to a site like Zmeiny , where other AD complexes are located, once arrived Bykov can unload the Tor on its aft helicopter deck/pad to the shore
And rely on the onshore AD complexes to shield it
Where it can launch its salvo of Kalibr and recover the TOR complex to return to base after the fire strike mission is complete
As for the loss of the helicopter, during these kind of missions it is acceptable
Perhaps it can use a towed sonar cable array to compensate for loss of ASW helicopter
The cable could be deployed through the transom of the ship
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It seems to me the space allows for carrying Kalibr in the hull as well as towed sonar
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