Russian special military operation in Ukraine #19

JohninMK wrote:

Belisarius wrote:Over 50 high-ranking officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed by the strike of the Caliber missile launcher on the command post of the Alexandria group of forces
https://topwar.ru/197963-svyshe-50-vysokopostavlennyh-oficerov-vsu-unichtozheny-udarom-kr-kalibr-po-punktu-upravlenija-gruppirovki-vojsk-aleksandrija.html

Keep up More on this event from Hinex 988's post 985 above. 6 hours ago.


At 12.30 PM, Kalibr high-precision long-distance sea-based missiles were launched at a command post of the Ukrainian troops near the village of Shirokaya Dacha (Dnepropetrovsk region) at the moment when there was being held a working meeting of the commanders of Aleksandriya operational-strategic group.

The attack has resulted in eliminating more than 50 generals and officers of the AFU, including those of the General Staff, the Kakhovka group, airborne assault troops and units that operate towards Nikolayev and Zaporozhye.

JohninMK wrote:

Hole wrote:

Isos wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:There's BPLA in the top left corner which stands for Bespilotnie or drone

I don't think this is a missile, but a suicide drone system

The camera explicitly says BPLA

Suicide drone can't attack building from the top... it's a missile. BPLA could mean something else. Actually bespilotnie means without pilot which a missile is.

Those ships should have kept reasonable distance and not move anywhere without cover from coastal aviation, especially offshore patrol vessels which have no business being alone in the warzone

Instead they just sent ships into the enemy fire range and hoped for the best

And they don't seem to be acting over Odessa region with their air force where valuable targets are. Kalibr strikes have their limits.

https://southfront.org/in-video-russian-mi-28nm-attack-helicopter-targets-depots-of-kiev-forces-with-loitering-munitions/

AS-UAC is a data link system for loitering ammo and recon drones.

Why should a suicide drone not be able to attack in a steep dive?

Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/swodki/119695?single

So the AS UAS system is a drone control system, and it was used to guide Izd. 305

So it says BPLA because it is a system designed for drones and loitering munitions, but interfaced with the new missile

This was apparently mi28 guided





The AS-UAS complex allows you to communicate with drones at a distance of up to 50 km and has a bandwidth of 5.4 Mbit/s.


The Product 305 missile has a range of 14 km and is designed to equip the latest Mi-28NM and Ka-52M helicopters.

PapaDragon wrote:
I guess there's still plenty of bitches among Russian decision makers  

Backman wrote:

She was exchanged for a dozen Russian special forces prisoners. Caveat emptor left that part out. Another one of his negative spin stories.

Isos wrote:

Scorpius wrote:

Isos wrote:
SpaceX has a real projects and real rockets with plenty of contracts with US government and NASA. The company value is overestimated because of dumbasses following Musk on twitter but it's not an empty company.

From 1970 to 1990, the USSR annually produced more than 95 space launches. There was no need for any technology, neon interfaces and fashion designers. Do you seriously want to say that SpaceX can be compared with the USSR space complex, as it was 50 years ago?

No I'm saying they are producing rockets that flies and have contracts with the government so it's not an empty company.

JohninMK wrote:Ukrainian officers cheerfully drive along the highway across the bridge without noticing that one of the spans is destroyed and end up going for a swim

Diogenes, one of the ancient world’s illustrious philosophers, believed that lies were the currency of politics, and those lies were the ones he sought to expose and debase. To make his point, Diogenes occasionally carried a lit lantern through the streets of Athens in the daylight. If asked why, Diogenes would say he was searching for an honest man.

Finding an honest man today in Washington, D.C., is equally challenging. Diogenes would need a Xenon Searchlight in each hand.

Still, there are brief moments of clarity inside the Washington establishment. Having lied prolifically for months to the American public about the origins and conduct of the war in Ukraine, the media are now preparing the American, British, and other Western publics for Ukraine’s military collapse. It is long overdue.

The Western media did everything in its power to give the Ukrainian defense the appearance of far greater strength than it really possessed. Careful observers noted that the same video clips of Russian tanks under attack were shown repeatedly. Local counterattacks were reported as though they were operational maneuvers.

Russian errors were exaggerated out of all proportion to their significance. Russian losses and the true extent of Ukraine’s own losses were distorted, fabricated, or simply ignored. But conditions on the battlefield changed little over time. Once Ukrainian forces immobilized themselves in static defensive positions inside urban areas and the central Donbas, the Ukrainian position was hopeless. But this development was portrayed as failure by the Russians to gain “their objectives.”

Ground-combat forces that immobilize soldiers in prepared defenses will be identified, targeted, and destroyed from a distance. When persistent overhead intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance assets, whether manned or unmanned, are linked to precision guided-strike weapons or modern artillery systems informed by accurate targeting data, “holding ground” is fatal to any ground force. This is all the more true in Ukraine, because it was apparent from the first action that Moscow focused on the destruction of Ukrainian forces, not on the occupation of cities or the capture of Ukrainian territory west of the Dnieper River.

The result has been the piecemeal annihilation of Ukrainian forces. Only the episodic infusion of U.S. and allied weapons kept Kiev’s battered legions in the field; legions that are now dying in great numbers thanks to Washington’s proxy war.

Kiev’s war with Moscow is lost. Ukrainian forces are being bled white. Trained replacements do not exist in sufficient numbers to influence the battle, and the situation grows more desperate by the hour. No amount of U.S. and allied military aid or assistance short of direct military intervention by U.S. and NATO ground forces can change this harsh reality.

The problem today is not ceding territory and population to Moscow in Eastern Ukraine that Moscow already controls. The future of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions along with the Donbas is decided. Moscow is also likely to secure Kharkov and Odessa, two cities that are historically Russian and Russian-speaking, as well as the territory that adjoins them. These operations will extend the conflict through the summer. The problem now is how to stop the fighting.

Whether the fighting stops in the early fall will depend on two key factors. The first involves the leadership in Kiev. Will the Zelensky government consent to the Biden program for perpetual conflict with Russia?

If the Biden administration has its way, Kiev will continue to operate as a base for the buildup of new forces poised to threaten Moscow. In practice, this means Kiev must commit national suicide by exposing the Ukrainian heartland west of the Dnieper River to massive, devastating strikes by Russia’s long-range missile and rocket forces.

Of course, these developments are not inevitable. Berlin, Paris, Rome, Budapest, Bucharest, Sofia, Vilnius, Riga, Tallin, and, yes, even Warsaw, do not have to blindly follow Washington’s lead. Europeans, like most Americans, are already peering into the abyss of an all-encompassing economic downturn that Biden’s policies are creating at home. Unlike Americans who must cope with the consequences of Biden’s ill-conceived policies, European governments can opt out of Biden’s perpetual-war plan for Ukraine.

The second factor involves Washington itself. Having poured more than $60 billion or a little more than $18 billion a month in direct or indirect transfers into a Ukrainian state that is now crumbling, the important question is, what happens to millions of Ukrainians in the rest of the country that did not flee? And where will the funds come from to rebuild Ukraine’s shattered society in a developing global economic emergency?

When inflation costs the average American household an extra $460 per month to buy the same goods and services this year as they did last year, it is quite possible that Ukraine could sink quietly beneath the waves like the Titanic without evoking much concern in the American electorate. Experienced politicians know that the American span of attention to matters beyond America’s borders is so short that an admission of defeat in Ukraine would probably have little or no immediate consequences.

However, the effects of repeated strategic failures in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria are cumulative. In the 1980s, General Motors wanted to dictate the kind of automobiles Americans would buy, but American consumers had different ideas. That’s why G.M., which dominated the U.S. market for 77 years, lost its top spot to Toyota. Washington cannot dictate all outcomes, nor can Washington escape accountability for its profligate spending and having ruined American prosperity.

In November, Americans will go to the polls. The election itself will do more than test the integrity of the American electoral process. The election is also likely to ensure that Biden is remembered for his intransigence; his refusal to change course, like Herbert Hoover in 1932. Democrats will recall that their predecessors in the Democratic Party effectively ran against Hoover for more than a half century. Republicans may end up running against Joe Biden for the next 50 years.

Isos wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:There's BPLA in the top left corner which stands for Bespilotnie or drone

I don't think this is a missile, but a suicide drone system

The camera explicitly says BPLA

Suicide drone can't attack building from the top... it's a missile. BPLA could mean something else. Actually bespilotnie means without pilot which a missile is.

Those ships should have kept reasonable distance and not move anywhere without cover from coastal aviation, especially offshore patrol vessels which have no business being alone in the warzone

Instead they just sent ships into the enemy fire range and hoped for the best

And they don't seem to be acting over Odessa region with their air force where valuable targets are. Kalibr strikes have their limits.

PapaDragon wrote:

Backman wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
I guess there's still plenty of bitches among Russian decision makers  

She was exchanged for a dozen Russian special forces prisoners. Caveat emptor left that part out. Another one of his negative spin stories.

Oh, really?

And how the f*ck did ukrops​ manage to capture dozen Russian "special forces"?

Were they special education forces by any chance? Because that's the only thing that could explain dozen of them getting captured

Regular wrote:

Isos wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:There's BPLA in the top left corner which stands for Bespilotnie or drone

I don't think this is a missile, but a suicide drone system

The camera explicitly says BPLA

Suicide drone can't attack building from the top... it's a missile. BPLA could mean something else. Actually bespilotnie means without pilot which a missile is.

Those ships should have kept reasonable distance and not move anywhere without cover from coastal aviation, especially offshore patrol vessels which have no business being alone in the warzone

Instead they just sent ships into the enemy fire range and hoped for the best

And they don't seem to be acting over Odessa region with their air force where valuable targets are. Kalibr strikes have their limits.

Bezpilotnik is doing the lasing/targetting, it is most likely newer Kh-29

Big_Gazza wrote:
Some Americans do get it.  Too bad McGregor isn't influential in US policy making circles.  As it is, the liberal 3/4 of the MSM calls him a traitor and a "kremlin-puppet".  These people are stupid, right down to their bones.  

ALAMO wrote:...
The Project Ukro is falling apart, there must be someone to blame - aside from Putin of course.
As we have the best weapon, the best command, the best tactics - let's find the guilty!

RTN wrote: How...? It's a Zionist mafia group controlled exclusively by the state of lsrael. They are also playing a role in the ongoing conflict in Ukraine.

Erk wrote:
I certainly think the planners behind the Ukranian civil was should be rounded up and held to account for the murders they encouraged. Perhaps some witch burning for the Nuland etc. But seriously, theses people need to face court for their crimes against humanity.

The bloc is forcing Moscow to apply adequate self-defense, Andrey Klimov said after Lithuania blocked the transit of sanctioned goods to Russia’s exclave of Kaliningrad

NATO member state Lithuania is now effectively engaged in “direct aggression” against Russia, senator Andrey Klimov argued in his Telegram post on Monday, citing Vilnius’ decision to stop the transit of sanctioned goods to Russia’s exclave of Kaliningrad.

According to the Russian politician, who heads a commission for the defense of state sovereignty, by refusing to let certain goods pass through its territory to the Russian region, Lithuania has violated a treaty signed between Moscow and Brussels 20 years ago.

Mir wrote:What I don't understand from these minor Baltic States is that they keep barking at the Russians - putting a huge target on their back.
The "freedom" they fought so hard for will evaporate in a few seconds once WWIII starts  

Mir wrote:What I don't understand from these minor Baltic States is that they keep barking at the Russians - putting a huge target on their back.
The "freedom" they fought so hard for will evaporate in a few seconds once WWIII starts  

NATO’s ‘direct aggression’ against Russia means Moscow must defend itself

https://www.rt.com/russia/557466-nato-engaged-direct-aggression-russia/

The bloc is forcing Moscow to apply adequate self-defense, Andrey Klimov said after Lithuania blocked the transit of sanctioned goods to Russia’s exclave of Kaliningrad

NATO member state Lithuania is now effectively engaged in “direct aggression” against Russia, senator Andrey Klimov argued in his Telegram post on Monday, citing Vilnius’ decision to stop the transit of sanctioned goods to Russia’s exclave of Kaliningrad.

According to the Russian politician, who heads a commission for the defense of state sovereignty, by refusing to let certain goods pass through its territory to the Russian region, Lithuania has violated a treaty signed between Moscow and Brussels 20 years ago.