Russian special military operation in Ukraine #19

Biden let it slip at the very outset that the U.S was willing to entertain limited territorial concessions as part of the empire stratagems many potential outcomes, and the preferable one.

They will be fine with territorial concessions as long as it's limited to the East. They will do everything in their power (short of starting a world war) to prevent a full Russian sweep of Ukraine.

Now you gotta ask yourself, why settle for what the enemy has already factored in and is comfortable with (limited territorial concessions)? Why do they want to avoid the full Ukranian sweep? What do they fear that a full sweep does? There is a reason Russia should go for the full sweep, or almost full sweep of Ukraine. Do it and you'll find out, if short on the IQ to figure it out yourself.

Kremenchug strike was clearly on the factory and not on the mall:





Location of the park - red arrow
Factory - yellow arrow
Mall- blue cirlce

It is impossible for the extremist sectors of Ukraine to accept that the territories are lost. They have believed their own absurd propaganda and now collide with reality. Likewise, if the government negotiates an agreement, it risks an internal coup. I hope it happens, so Russia crushes the entire western part.

The factory was targeted by Russia. Ukraine tried shooting it down and the projectile landed near the pond

Backman wrote:The factory was targeted by Russia. Ukraine tried shooting it down and the projectile landed near the pond

Half of the Ukrainian casualties must be friendly fire.

Arkanghelsk wrote:
Roscosmos published sat images of Decision Making Centre's

The show is on

Are you serious ?

Backman wrote:The factory was targeted by Russia. Ukraine tried shooting it down and the projectile landed near the pond

Oh the humanity. Western repetition of this "atrocity" drivel is pure cringe. Every freaking hit on civilians by the US and its NATzO allies
is always "collateral damage" and "shit happens". But several incidents during four months of the war in Ukraine are proof of Russian
war crimes. The accusation is the real war crime.

EndGameWW3
@EndGameWW3
Update: Vladimir Putin told Emmanuel Macron he would rather ‘play ice hockey’ than hold peace talks. ( The Telegraph)


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For those who have doubts about what Putin's willingness to negotiate is, this news clears up.

Hellduck pilot

Gotta keep yourself dry from the Hohols tears  

Backman wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:
Roscosmos published sat images of Decision Making Centre's

The show is on

Are you serious ?

What do you mean? Yes those are roscosmos photos

Draw your own conclusions

@ Архангельск
Of course. This is why sanctions were put in the first place. That battlefield is much more important, as winning it makes Russia impervious to western pressure.
@Atlascub
Taking whole Ukraine would be a mistake imo. At most, they shouldn't go west of Zhytomir- Vinnitsa oblast borders. Cutting of Ukraine from Black Sea, by taking full Novorossia, plus Kirovograd and Sumy oblast would be a good outcome. Population would be easy to pacify and they would take most of Ukraine's best land, natural resources and industry.

ATLASCUB wrote:Suggestion to start all out war? I know you're grade A bullshitter but cmon 

At least you admit weakness and fear in every suggestion you type to damage control.  No amount of tough guy faking can disguise the truth. You fear NATO.

Anyway I think I've entertained enough idiocy for the day, specially from     . Looking forward to the spin of Finland/Swedish ascention and Russia's "asymmetric" response. I know the Kremlin scribes and "independent" analysts will be cooking up some mighty bullshit for the dimwits to eat up, and eat it they will, guaranteed.

Provocative yes , fear? Well war should always be taken seriously as well as the loss of life

But premature actions should not be taken

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In the US for example, the Supreme Court rejected Roe vs Wade

It seems the seed planted by the FSB is giving Washington the things of nightmares

Because the orange hand from beyond the grave keeps reaching out and spoiling it all for masters in DC

Some election interference huh?

The manchurian candidate planted quite a bomb underneath the foundation, and now the great hegemon is heading towards federalization?

I thought Ukraine was signatory to Minsk 2 not Washington lmfao

So Atlascub I do agree NATO enlargement is a threat

But Russia should wait and see

Because you never know... by the way it looks a certain Supreme Court Justice now wants to roll back gay rights and the transgender laws !

If this federalization process works, then Comrade Donald will have effectively federalized the country, negating any actions taken by the executive

So let us wait and see, because if the Russian agent succeeds , well NATO is the last thing you should worry about

caveat emptor wrote:@ Архангельск
Of course. This is why sanctions were put in the first place. That battlefield is much more important, as winning it makes Russia impervious to western pressure.
@Atlascub
Taking whole Ukraine would be a mistake imo. At most, they shouldn't go west of Zhytomir- Vinnitsa oblast borders. Cutting of Ukraine from Black Sea, by taking full Novorossia, plus Kirovograd and Sumy oblast would be a good outcome. Population would be easy to pacify and they would take most of Ukraine's best land, natural resources and industry.

imho taking half is wrong. You can expect to have a terrorist and cyberthreat breeding ground like in Syria where US backed terrorists reside. Nope. Swallow the whole Ukraine 404. Russian speaking or strategically important incorporate. The rest can be called Ukraine but shall has a colony status with local peace keeping troops and education in the rights direction.

If Ukraine lays down its weapons, and sign off on the Russian demand

It would be acceptable to make a deal

This would provide Casus Belli if they renege on agreement , and would legitimize the territorial gains made

But the Ukrainians will not take the deal , Russia knows this , but it's good to extend the offer for the sake of optics

Russia needs to focus on the US elections, this is where most progress can be made in the short term

And force China to make its own moves as in 2020

Russia rapidly built two concrete factories in Mariupol, to aid with the reconstruction.

And it goes on.

Pretty good analytical article about historical context of post Cold war conflicts in regard to SMO.
Original: https://globalaffairs.ru/articles/pervaya-bolshaya-vojna-xxi-veka/
First big war of XXI century:

ATLASCUB wrote:Biden let it slip at the very outset that the U.S was willing to entertain limited territorial concessions as part of the empire stratagems many potential outcomes, and the preferable one.

They will be fine with territorial concessions as long as it's limited to the East. They will do everything in their power (short of starting a world war) to prevent a full Russian sweep of Ukraine.

Now you gotta ask yourself, why settle for what the enemy has already factored in and is comfortable with (limited territorial concessions)? Why do they want to avoid the full Ukranian sweep? What do they fear that a full sweep does? There is a reason Russia should go for the full sweep, or almost full sweep of Ukraine. Do it and you'll find out, if short on the IQ to figure it out yourself.

My bet is Russia military will not stop until atleast 60% to 90% takeover of Ukraine ,including Odessa ,
and everything to the right of Dnieper River. With Kiev and all borders cities of Ukraine with Russia takeover and the creation of puppet states MaloRossiya republic and Novorossiya republic. and after All the territories fully denazified ,with population , re-education of Ukraine real identity ,as a fake western created state ,from a Russian land and support of population high , reintegration with Russia again.  

Which ever new lines Ukraine territory will have , after Russia airforce achieve complete airspace domination ,they will continue flying over all parts of Ukraine and new Ukraine territories , and will reserve the right to strike at any illegal weapons storage site . or Military  insurgence militia  
that works for the west .

The ideal scenario would be a land bridge from odessa to kharkiv sumi ,cherniv to kiev , the entire eastern and southern borders of ukraine ,and another one from odessa  - moldova to hungary.
Capturing this borders would allow Russia with diplomacy no only create a new pipeline under russia control to central europe. with friendly Hungary being the door , but also create an air bridge with diplomacy ,to supply Serbia in case of a conflict there.

New interesting report ...

SEVERODONETSK HAS FALLEN