Russian special military operation in Ukraine #20

Is there an actual french official announcement that 2 caesars have been sold to the Russians. This sounds too good to be true. Theres 0 photo evidence too.

Also the dana destruction video is BS. The truck looks nothing like a dana.

limb wrote:Is there an actual french official announcement that 2 caesars have been sold to the Russians. This sounds too good to be true. Theres 0 photo evidence too.

Also the dana destruction video is BS. The truck looks nothing like a dana.

Probably a technical or mock-up that truck.

And no, same with "captured" Caesar. Those should be far away from the front line as possible. We would see proof of this as well as this would discredit Ukraine completely.

Don't believe everything on the internet.

The only issue is supplying these dispersed aircraft with fuel and ammo. The big problem however seems to be that the Ukrs can only use them for once-of suicide type missions as the Russians keep shooting them down.

Actually the Su-25 can operate on diesel or petrol or kerosene or benzine or any mixture of any or all of them so in terms of operations it is probably one of the easiest planes to keep running in the sticks.

The other types like Hips and Hinds were mass produced and available from other states if you know what I mean.

It is actually good they are wasting resources on these things because they seem to just get shot down straight away so it is not like they are effective.

Taiwan is much smaller than Ukraine. A well-coordinated operation would lead to its defeat, given the firepower that China has.

I think his point is that this operation in Ukraine shows skill above firepower, and that he is not sure the Chinese have the experience to replicate the results of getting territory without levelling the entire area.

Of course Taiwan is more militarised and I am not familiar with their views on China and the Chinese... some might welcome the invasion, but many others will be against it without being nazis about it... and therefore losing sympathy with the rest of the world.

US support and US advice would lead to loss of sympathy for them though with their likely suggested tactics.

She could employ more speed by increasing her firepower and number of men.

What is the rush... don't you love the irony of Russians taking it slow? (Rushins... weak I know...)

They can accuse you of fück all and prove just as much if you win

Isolating themselves from the west is not an issue... that ship has sailed... but if the rest of the world think Russians are bastards and are no better than the west then they will be isolating themselves from the rest of the world and that will really limit their growth and development for the future.

Besides... it is not in their interests to act like .

Is Russia plan on losing?

Russia is winning.

The fact is that the western commentators are calling a different race they don't understand the rules of...

The only thing the West managed to truly discredit was themselves.

A bit of honest cooperation and western production facilities getting the Russian vaccines into mass production very rapidly literally would have saved millions of lives around the world but that is not what they west is about.

What's more, Moscow had a poor update of vaccines, helped by the western propaganda against Sputnik V, and this resulted in thousands of avoidable deaths

But you could argue the people who did not trust the Russian vaccine and believed western reports probably learned a good lesson or died... which is all Russia can hope for in the Ukraine... learn the lesson or die.

…thanks God I don’t support Ukraine, I would pull my hair out…

PR stunt after PR stunt. It will cost them arm and leg

They know they can't win this war on the ground so continue to win the media war is all they can hope for.

Is there an actual french official announcement that 2 caesars have been sold to the Russians. This sounds too good to be true. Theres 0 photo evidence too.

The claim of Caesars being captured was first made by a French politician upset with sending them to the Ukraine... to which he received a response from a Russian company that makes artillery vehicles... who knows if the original claim was true, but the response from the Russian company was certainly to mess with them.

They have unleashed a campaign of black PR, blackmail, and political pressure on potential users, and started to discriminate it by calling it another "Putin's weapon".
Literally, everything that they lack, is being called Putin's weapon to make it look bad.

The hilarious thing is that in the west Putin is a dirty word... the name of the Boogeyman... in the rest of the world he is a man that dragged Russia up from Yeltsin to where they are now where they can challenge all of HATO in Europe and not give a shit what they US or EU or HATO says about it.... how can you not respect that...

Vann posts about to be moved to more suitable location as they are more anti putin than ukraine war...

Russian Su-35s fighters have shot down: 1 MiG-29 of Ukrainian air force near Nikolaev and 1 Su-25 near Adamovka in Donetsk people's republic.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2624
No air superiority...

GarryB wrote:

Vann posts about to be moved to more suitable location as they are more anti putin than ukraine war...

I remember once, Vann decided Russia should be run by a GERMAN instead of Putin.
I think that just about sums the poster up.

Additionally, I remember some utterly vile posts from the poster with a defence of Nazi wartime atrocities and a general "sympathy" for Nazism.

Accordingly, when I see a giant chunk of text attacking anything Russian, its a pretty huge probability its something from that poster, and therefore something to skip past.

https://www.stalkerzone.org/a-new-stage-of-the-russian-special-operation-has-matured-in-ukraine/
Phase 3 is coming up. Breaking through Kramatorsk will "open up" a large area.

Hole wrote:https://www.stalkerzone.org/a-new-stage-of-the-russian-special-operation-has-matured-in-ukraine/
Phase 3 is coming up. Breaking through Kramatorsk will "open up" a large area.

The howitzer in the little picture is the Dana-M2, the howitzer in the video looks like the Dana-M1 or a prior version...so the video of RuMoD shows really the destruction of a "western" Dana howitzer.

limb wrote:Is there an actual french official announcement that 2 caesars have been sold to the Russians. This sounds too good to be true. Theres 0 photo evidence too.

Also the dana destruction video is BS. The truck looks nothing like a dana.

Search for Dana-M1 or ShKH vz. 77 I think they delivered really old versions.

Anyone assessed the accuracy of this?

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html?m=1

Seems like a lot of UAV shots of who knows what.

Does Russia even use T-80U variants?

Belisarius wrote:Russian Su-35s fighters have shot down: 1 MiG-29 of Ukrainian air force near Nikolaev and 1 Su-25 near Adamovka in Donetsk people's republic.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2624
No air superiority...

In case those planes flu to Belgorod, Crimea or even Mariupol and did some attack and managed to successfully return to the base, that would indicate that Russia doesn't have air superiority.

Air superiority is defined as being able to conduct air operations “without prohibitive interference by the opposing force.” Air supremacy goes further, wherein the opposing air force is incapable of effective interference.

#Breaking
Boris Johnson has announced that he has decided to step down as British Prime Minister and leader of the Conservative Party.



Who is next?

The war totally backfired on these leaders, they couldn't last 4 months

Biden is done, Trump will be back

The British will probably get Labour,

And Kiev will be a very Russian place

These western figureheads have sawed off the branches where they sit

Macron is already neutered with parliament

Olaf Scholz will get the boot this winter along with Von Der Leyen

And the two other bumbling idiots - Biden is neutered this election

That leaves Trudeau , well agent orange will take care of it when the time comes

Arkanghelsk wrote: #Breaking
Boris Johnson has announced that he has decided to step down as British Prime Minister and leader of the Conservative Party.



Who is next?

The war totally backfired on these leaders, they couldn't last 4 months

Biden is done, Trump will be back

The British will probably get Labour,

And Kiev will be a very Russian place

Nah, after this year's mid-terms, i doubt america will even have a 2024.

The British will always have labour, their two major parties are hard labour or soft labour, not much else.

Who cares about Ukraine, they wanted to drown in their own feces, no need to save them.

Arkanghelsk wrote: #Breaking
Boris Johnson has announced that he has decided to step down as British Prime Minister and leader of the Conservative Party.



Who is next?

The war totally backfired on these leaders, they couldn't last 4 months

Biden is done, Trump will be back

The British will probably get Labour,

There will now be a fight between the pygmies as to who gets the hot potato of soaring inflation into the next election.  Whoever it is that wins will have to take the difficult decision as to whether to call an immediate election rather than wait for the 2 years they could. With an 80 seat (very big) majority it is unlikely Labour will win with a new Conservative leader in post.

The loss of Boris is absolutely nothing to do with Ukraine or energy prices or inflation. It is down to his crappy man management.

Yes, Trump could be back in 2 1/2 years.

Azi wrote:

What is the machine bottom left, outside the blast?

Azi wrote:

Hole wrote:https://www.stalkerzone.org/a-new-stage-of-the-russian-special-operation-has-matured-in-ukraine/
Phase 3 is coming up. Breaking through Kramatorsk will "open up" a large area.

The howitzer in the little picture is the Dana-M2, the howitzer in the video looks like the Dana-M1 or a prior version...so the video of RuMoD shows really the destruction of a "western" Dana howitzer.

A search on Google shows only pictures of the Dana M2. The cabin of the truck is too tall and looks too big in comparison with the turret. The window us far too big too.
, And the chassis is too short. Theres no chassis visible after the "turret".This therefore looks like a poorly made mockup which ironically worked. Russians should use something better than 80s  quality cameras. A krasnopol was wasted on a junk truck.

I bet you believe in the story of 2 pzh2000s captured.

Ned86 wrote:

Belisarius wrote:Russian Su-35s fighters have shot down: 1 MiG-29 of Ukrainian air force near Nikolaev and 1 Su-25 near Adamovka in Donetsk people's republic.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2624
No air superiority...

In case those planes flu to Belgorod, Crimea or even Mariupol and did some attack and managed to successfully return to the base, that would indicate that Russia doesn't have air superiority.

Air superiority is defined as being able to conduct air operations “without prohibitive interference by the opposing force.” Air supremacy goes further, wherein the opposing air force is incapable of effective interference.

My guess is sarcasm.

JohninMK wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote: #Breaking
Boris Johnson has announced that he has decided to step down as British Prime Minister and leader of the Conservative Party.



Who is next?

The war totally backfired on these leaders, they couldn't last 4 months

Biden is done, Trump will be back

The British will probably get Labour,

There will now be a fight between the pygmies as to who gets the hot potato of soaring inflation into the next election.  Whoever it is that wins will have to take the difficult decision as to whether to call an immediate election rather than wait for the 2 years they could. With an 80 seat (very big) majority it is unlikely Labour will win with a new Conservative leader in post.

The loss of Boris is absolutely nothing to do with Ukraine or energy prices or inflation. It is down to his crappy man management.

Yes, Trump could be back in 2 1/2 years.

You mention Hyperinflation-

What is funny is most westerners fail to grasp the correlation between hyperinflation and Ukraine...

Maybe sanctions could have something to do with it, I don't know, something to think about

Arkanghelsk wrote:
You mention Hyperinflation-

What is funny is most westerners fail to grasp the correlation between hyperinflation and Ukraine...

Maybe sanctions could have something to do with it, I don't know, something to think about

I didn't, we are a very long way from the normal definition of hyperinflation, until it gets to 30% up its just 'high'. Not sure if we will achieve that but the US seems to be trying with all its might to do so. It has a wonderful effect on reducing debt in real terms, otherwise known as theft that 95% of the population doesn't understand or realise is happening.

There is very little correlation between the current levels of inflation and Ukraine, the real kicker started with the EU's incompetent management of their gas purchasing and went up from there. The Russian sanctions are just the cream on top with their effect hitting us in a month or twos time.

Russian president predicts 'change of elites' in West  

Economic mistakes are driving the EU towards deepening inequality and a surge of radicalism, Putin has said

Economic mistakes are creating the conditions in the EU for deepening inequality, a surge of radicalism, and, eventually, a “change of elites,” Russian President Vladimir Putin warned on Friday.

Speaking at the plenary session of the Saint Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF), the Russian leader argued that all the current talk in the West about so-called ‘Putin's inflation’ was designed “for those who cannot read and write.”

Atlas clown, did the west foresee it or not ?

Did BoZo learn his lesson? I wonder, and what for the rest of the west?