Iran is a turbocuck US asslickinging nation if it refuses to sell drones to Russia.
Russia does not benefit from Iran joining the conflict on their side as that would be used by the US to try to turn most of the middle east who oppose Iran against Russia... which at the moment they are not.
Russia was one of the countries that voted for a resolution banning Iran from acquiring weapons to defend itself. This is the same Russia that dragged its feet to deliver AD systems paid for by Iran and the same Russia that to this day hasn't shipped a single new piece of heavy hardware to arm Iran.
The Iranians have more than a gazillion reasons to tell the Russians to stick it up their ass. Not their fault the Kremlin loved to spend its spare time trying to fit-in with the global West and sucking American cock at every chance it got (and yes, under Putin too).
Probably true but ignore the fact that Russia hasn't asked for anything as far as we know... and it also ignores the facts that Russia has stuck to the JPOA deal with Iran and helped Iran out in several occasions in that regard too, so it is not like they are enemies even if they are not best buddies.
The delivery of AD systems adds quite a bit to Irans self defence capacity.
The fact is that SS was exactly right when talking to Vann, war between two countries is not two humans facing off in combat... you don't have two hands to use and two hands to watch... there are millions of hands and eyes and weapons on each side all looking at the other side for gaps and weaknesses.
The very idea that you can fight a war and not have a fuel dump hit or the enemy not fire artillery rounds into civilian areas is childish and ridiculous and crying that Russian air defences are shit because they let things through... especially in places they are not even located is equally ridiculous.
Even someone wearing super strength body armour that will stop a 50 cal HMG bullet can be killed by a tiny fragment severing their spine at the neck... and any enemy who sees you wearing that super armour is going to look carefully for weak points to aim their fire towards.
It is the old childish... if it isn't the best then it has to be the worst type reaction.
The Russians have a small force in place... more drones in some areas might be useful, but how many artillery pieces are you going to give up to have those extra drones?
People like Poddubny, Kots, Fomin and others say that they need more drones.
Obviously having 1 million drones over the Ukraine would be nice... even if it just used up all their SAMs to try to shoot some of them down, but I would say they are not going to lose this conflict if they don't get a lot more drones, and getting more drones is not as easy as wanting more drones... talk about on the job training...
How many Russian soldiers in the Ukraine at the moment can speak and read Iranian or Chinese or English?
Or do you think the Chinese and Iranians have batches of drones just sitting and waiting for Russia to ask for?
I would think if Iran sent 10,000 drones to the Ukraine that the hostile countries on its borders would become more aggressive knowing they have less on hand for themselves, certainly I think the Houthies would want more if there are so many to just throw around the place too.
I suspect that Alamo like good number of people here gets info straight from Russian sources and they don't care what Sullivan or Vann or even MoA or any other pro-Russian Western source have to say about this.
So what.
Will complaining about it on the internet solve anything at all.
Iran and China have both said they are not sending weapons to Russia... they want the conflict to be solved diplomatically... do you think Russia will sing a different song if China was invading Taiwan? Will Russia be sending lots of weapons to China in the event of a conflict there... or how about Iranian activity in some neighbouring country... would Russia get involved?
For those claiming Russia doesn't use smart weapons -->
Interesting thing about all those videos is that they were all large buildings... where is the Orc armour.. all gone?
Those buildings likely hide artillery or ammo or fuel... when you hide you weapons in buildings and only bring them out to fire and then hide them away again it means you get to kill the vehicles and also the spare ammo and fuel because while hidden they will be reloaded and refuelled there.
That means you get the weapons and their support chain.
Obviously they will have dozens of buildings for each weapon so you will send a team out from one building with a towed gun or rocket launcher... you go to a specific place... a specific grid reference location because your fixed targets given to you by HATO you can calculate the angles and direction and propellent charges for your attack so you arrive aim fire and then run, but you don't run back to the building you came from, you run to another building where you can be reloaded and rearmed and then drive to a different location to fire your next barrage.
Carefully watching these attacks allows you to locate support areas and fuel and ammo locations which can be hit as per video above... some will have weapons, while others will just have ammo or fuel or communications systems receiving target information...
Ironically the locations with no cell phone activity but vehicle activity (fuel and ammo and crews) would be places to watch...
One thing I can't understand are all those people masturbating on drones and exaggerating their abilities while in the same time diminish Russian air defense, cruise missiles and hypersonic weapons.
Drones are toys nice to have, but they are not a gamechanger.
Don't you understand... all those drones of all those types and sophistication is how the US and HATO won in Afghanistan and why they destroyed Assad and the Russians and Iranians in Syria too...
Remember the story about Switchblade drones being a gamechanger and yet we haven't seen or heard anything about their success.
Yes, those tiny little warheads are supposed to be amazing, but they talk about needing thousands of drones because drones carrying hand grenade sized bombs would be needed in enormous numbers just to take down one column of trucks, whereas a drone operating with an artillery battery could destroy that column with concentrated and continuous fire with the drone providing target information and performance information so follow up shots are more accurate and effective and the enemy is less likely to get away... an artillery battery carries more ready to fire ammo than 100 drones could carry.
In this type of war, where both sides have strong air defences, drones will not be as useful.
Actually if the Orcs want to waste AD missiles on Russian drones I think they would call that a win... they have a lot of target drones used during air defence training that simulate various aircraft and targets so operating them all over the place might draw out Orc air defences and make the artillery units not want to poke their heads out while they are overhead.
The Russians will be monitoring HATO recon just like HATO recon will be trying to monitor everything the Russians do so warnings from HATO about the presence of high flying drones might be used by the orcs to evade being killed, but equally to enable them to return to firing on Ukrainian civilians they might want to use a few of their larger SAMs which would reveal their location and would be good from a Russian perspective even if they shoot down the drones.
Better a drone than manned aircraft... plus the use of the AD missile alerts the Russians to its presence and general location too.
I am wary of this because the USSR suffered from reliance on countries to produce goods
Making everything yourself is too expensive and means you don't have anything to trade for.
The entire rest of the world is a huge place including China and India... it is just important not to rely on one source for everything because the west will attack them to weaken you...
The concept of loitering ammo is that it is inexpensive enough, that can be just crashed if no target is found. With no pain.
The concept of cheap drones is critical to the west because their F-35 fighters cost over 70K per flight hour in maintenance and support... add million dollar munitions and any attack is going to be eye wateringly expensive so drones are their only option.
Russia on the other hand has ATGMs that cost 5K compared with 500K per hellfire or javelin.
Any of the solid missiles Russkies have, cost millions of rubles. It is still 1/10th of the NATO cost, but ...
Most are actually old stock and probably need to be used up anyway... Shturm and Ataka missiles for instance are accurate... the new electronics on the upgraded helicopters massively improved their performance day and night, and they are cheap command guided missiles with no expensive seekers... their anti armour performance is good enough to take out anything from the side or rear even today... the Mi-28N can carry 16 of them on two weapon pylons with room for 12 Vikhrs on the other two weapon pylons... why do they need drones?
You can do the same with something that cost 50-100k. You can throw a Rolls&Royce at henhouse, to kill 3 hohols, or do it with used VW. Both will kill.
War is an economy, first place.
Very true but most modern drones are not actually cheap and the munitions in the west they use like Hellfire missiles are actually rather expensive.
For Russia the cost saving advantages of drones is not such a convincing argument as it is in the west.
how mentally handicapped are people in this forum..
Way to win a crowd... you are all retarded for not believing Kievs propaganda... the Moskva was sunk by a Ukrainian missile... and all the other dozens of ships they have since sunk with the same missiles and new Harpoon missiles sent from the west.... the Black Sea Fleet is almost gone in fact, and we haven't even mentioned Brimstone or Javelin or Stinger... all super weapons that will wipe out all Russian armour and aircraft in the numbers they have been delivered in.
But it seems the Russian forces are advancing despite such losses and lack of drones... that VDV video showing that very early attack on that airfield had quad copter drones in it at the end... drones the Russians don't have apparently.
Strike Drones are ULTRA PRECISION ARTILLERY but deployed in the air ,that constantly move , and with superior view of the battlefield ,after they use all their missiles ,it can continue being used to guide artillery while at the same time ,providing REAL TIME monitoring of the battle field.. OMG
A single strike drone requires more crew and more support than a single artillery shell... a recon drone is vastly more valuable because it does not become useless after the first target it kills is dead and its ammo is used up.
how can anyone question how amazingly important are drones yes of Any kind in modern warfare.
Yeah, I am sure the Taliban were impressed.
Putin has to know that the US is non agreement capable. But maybe they want to make this peace offer just for optics. Just to show that they made a legit offer before they decide to mobilize and finish the job.
Zelensky said he wants all the land back including Crimea or no deal... which is fantastic...
What's the point? The Ukraine and the US will tell Russia anything so that they'll agree to a ceasefire, then renege on the deal once they've had enough time to resupply the cannon fodder for round 2.
To appear reasonable.
Russia went in there just after recognising the independence of the Donbass and Lugansk regions and demanded that Kiev withdrew from their territory... Kiev refused and Russia attacked.
The smartest thing Kiev could do is accept the Russian occupation and liberation of those two regions, because the alternative will be losing more territory and not losing less.
Kievs chances of striking back and pushing Russia out of the territory they hold is zero, while the chances of Russia taking Kievs access to the Black Sea away is very very high. Not straight away... they will take their time and do it right.
When you can hide not only a squad with MANPADs, but also a BUK or SHORAD-type vehicle basically anywhere and not even have to put a tarp over it... there is no such thing as complete safety from SAMs.
Over built up areas there are thousands of things that appear on radar like buildings from sheds up to sky scrapers, as well as vehicles, trucks and buses and trailers... on radar it is hard to tell a tractor from a tank or an SUV or light truck from an armoured vehicle...
When in enemy territory or even captured enemy territory there is always a risk of enemy forces staying behind or dispersing amongst the local population so you have civilian cars and trucks and military vehicles that might be civilian vehicles.
A towed gun might be inside a truck trailer for moving around the place... open the rear doors and lower a ramp and roll it out and set it up and fire and then put it back inside the truck... if you don't see it going in there is no way to know it is in there.
Same with ammo and fuel... we saw footage of boxes supposed to be carrying huge electric generators being removed and replaced with artillery ammo and then put on civilian trucks to take them to the front...
In desert storm the US had complete control of the airspace and no interference with its spy satellites... the best in the world, but still didn't hit a single Scud launch vehicle before it launched its missile. Replacement missiles were driven around in buses. they were launching half a dozen a day at one point...
Before that conflict one of the amazing features of the B-2 was their ability to fly invisibly over Soviet airspace hunting ICBMs in trucks, but didn't work in the much smaller area of Iraq against Scuds so they stopped talking about that amazing ability after that.
There are not enough Iskander to destroy the bunker network in Donetsk . And the warhead , I believe is not designed for bunker - busting , at best is thermobaric . 120 missiles is not enough . Suppose there is that many large , underground storage area , each needing several hits . So we are talking 1000 warhead , for missile type bunker buster . And if not too safe to fly , then only alternative is to find weak point in bunker system , and bypass and encircle them . Can not be more difficult than maginot line ?
The bunkers go through civilian areas, but if they wanted to obliterate them 1,500kg bombs from 12km altitude would do the job easily enough, but the civilian casualties would be dire.
" .....The World War II German invasion plan of 1940 (Sichelschnitt) was designed to deal with the line. A decoy force sat opposite the line while a second Army Group cut through the Low Countries of Belgium and the Netherlands, as well as through the Ardennes Forest, which lay north of the main French defences. Thus the Germans were able to avoid a direct assault on the Maginot Line by violating the neutrality of Belgium, Luxembourg and the Netherlands. Attacking on 10 May, German forces were well into France within five days and they continued to advance until 24 May, when they stopped near Dunkirk...... "
The Maginot Line was an enormous success and did exactly what it was supposed to do.
During WWI the French fought on French territory and suffered terrible losses. The purpose of the Maginot line was not to stop the Germans from attacking... it was to force them to go through the Low countries... the French were hoping for a long trench warfare slog in Belgium instead of in France for which the French and British could supply troops but for the war to be fought in somewhere other than France.
Unfortunately for them the Low countries folded like a deck chair, but that was hardly the fault of the Maginot line.
The funny thing is Russia knows these clowns will boldly reject it out of spite as per their usual MO, freeing Russia's hands to advance one step further in their annihilation as wished.
If they accepted terms Odessa might remain an Orc city and Kiev would retain access to the Black Sea... I am sure Putin will find a way to make the offer unacceptable to Zelensky... the question is... is the US smart enough to recognise the situation they are in and get rid of their clown and put someone else in to save a bigger part of the Ukraine, or is it what it appears... they don't care about the Ukraine at all and just want a longer war for Russia no matter how many Orcs die in the process.
This isn't a video game, this is real life and there are numerous factors that determine even the most minor of engagements.
This is a chess game with a board that has a billion squares and two million pieces for each side and there is one board for the ground and one for the air and one for the sea... but he thinks Russias air defence should protect everything on the board... Russian forces, rebel forces, and friendly civilians... or it is a useless failure... but of course having a million drones would fix everything...
Why people are still responding to that twit is beyond me, the guy is a clueless clown who thinks he is one million times smarter than he actually is.
To ignore him would appear to make it seem to others that he is not wrong.
Western propaganda relies on repetition till eventually you can't be bothered arguing... that is when they win.
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