Russian special military operation in Ukraine #20

British mercenary, who was held captive in the DPR, died of illness and stress, 15.07.2022.

DPR Ombudsman Morozova announced the death of captured British mercenary Paul Ury.

British mercenary Paul Ury, who was in captivity in the DPR, died on July 10 due to illness and stress, said Daria Morozova, Ombudsman of the Donetsk People's Republic.

“On our part, despite the severity of the alleged crime, Paul Uri was provided with appropriate medical assistance. However, given the diagnoses and stress, he died on July 10,” she wrote on the Telegram channel.

https://ria.ru/20220715/ukraina-1802652344.html

If the small yellow line top the right is the "Zelensky line" then the big one to the left is the "Obama line" 

Zelensky curse?

Random dudes with guns

The great leader in front of his largest proplem 

Delivering dedicated weaponry is just a matter of need. If Russkies will ask for them - those would be delivered. Dot.
If they will, is another thing. I don' think so.
Still, I really consider that Iranian drones delivered in mass would have been very useful. Will we see it? Highly unlikely.

You are entitled to your view of course but as Iran and China have both said that contributing weapons to the conflict only increases suffering on both sides it would be a bit hypocritical for either to start supplying weapons assistance to either side.

Russia seems to be happy with those statements because they show what neutral countries do... in contrast to what the west is trying to do by feeding weapons and ammo and money to one side to increase the suffering and secure a more damaging future for the side they pretend to support.

How could the Russians hope to destroy a single dmerch, tochka, himars or any other MLRS when theyre in richly urbanized and woodland areas, when the entire NATO coalition in 1991 couldnt destroy a single SCUD launcher in flat open desert. Unfortunately, russia simply cannot do anything against Ukrainian MLRS except shoot down incoming rounds. I dont believe the Russians have destroyed a single launcher for the war simply because its impossible to confirm and why can the Russians do it if entire NATO couldn't?

Very good question there Limb but it gets the obvious answer that if Russia can't hit launchers and individual vehicles like artillery (guntube and rocket artillery), then why do they need any more because they had plenty of it before the war started... they have been happily using it against their own people in the Donbass and Lugansk regions for the last 8 years.

Of course Iraq hid their Scud launchers too, and some were reportedly destroyed after they had launched their missiles but the vast majority continued to operate right to the end of the war.... and the next few conflicts too.

The amusing thing is that it is a difficult problem for any military but they are currently getting good practise with the best stuff HATO can make...

Sure HATO can load much longer ranged munitions, but against HATO Russia could also be a lot more heavy handed and not worry so much about civilian casualties like they do in the Ukraine where not everyone is an Orc.

How many forpost and orions are currently in service? What is their sorty rate? Why do you think theyre enough?

They make them themselves and have been using them in Syria all these years so one would assume they have some in all four Russian military districts for training and likely more in Syria that could be sent to a war zone if needed urgently...

Dont you find it funny that youre simping for iran when a year ago you were making (correct) observations that iran desperately wants to suck western cock whenever trade of aviation technology is involved, namely iran jumping on uncle scumbags cock by buying boeings instead of Russian airliners. With such "partners", who needs endmies?

Iran is not the bad guy here... it is claims by the US that you are backing, Iran has made a statement that they will not fuel the fire of the conflict by sending weapons to either side and it is their view the solution should be via negotiation rather than on the battlefield.

They are entitled to their view and honestly I would think after the last 8 years Russia has been wanting a negotiated settlement all this time but Kiev is not interested or more accurately the west was wanting this war... they could have told Kiev to follow the minsk agreements or no more support and no HATO or EU membership... but the west wanted this war and now they have it.

Don't seem very happy though.

GarryB wrote " The bunkers go through civilian areas, but if they wanted to obliterate them 1,500kg bombs from 12km altitude would do the job easily enough, but the civilian casualties would be dire. " well we could encourage civilians living immediately above and near Jellyinsky Maginot washing line , to leave ! Before the 1500 kg lands and spoils their day ! Here inducements to civilians to pull back a little ( a few hundred meters ) :

These civilians are inside what Kiev called enemy territory... Kiev views the locals as being too pro Russia to think of them as Ukrainians and sees them as Russians and will not let them leave.

Leaflets telling the locals to leave would frustrate them because they almost certainly very much already want to leave...

I think the psychological victory of clearing the Donetsk area now , in a show of force , rather than a grinding six month encirclement and starvation , like Mariupol Azovstal plant , is more advantageous . Stopping further recruitment of Ukraininan Cannon fodder , prolonging war . Stop their hopes !

When you have ten bank robbers holed up in a bank with 50 civilians that they refuse to let leave, then the plan to level the entire bank but first say over a loud speaker we are going to destroy the bank and we suggest all civilians leave in the next five minutes, probably would not cut it.

Their methods in other banks have given results... lots of meat shields have been killed sadly but they have been killing these people for the last 8 years... it is time for them to be stopped.

"representatives of foreign arms suppliers"

How could the Russians hope to destroy a single dmerch, tochka, himars or any other MLRS when theyre in richly urbanized and woodland areas, when the entire NATO coalition in 1991 couldnt destroy a single SCUD launcher in flat open desert. Unfortunately, russia simply cannot do anything against Ukrainian MLRS except shoot down incoming rounds. I dont believe the Russians have destroyed a single launcher for the war simply because its impossible to confirm and why can the Russians do it if entire NATO couldn't?

Plenty of video evidence easily available for the destruction of a lot of MLRS by Russia. Just one example: the shopping mall "incident" in Kiev. 

Before the war the fake state had something like 600 MLRS, now the Nazis got less then 100 left, including western deliveries.

Earlier, rumors appeared on the Web that the American HIMARS MLRS rocket launcher appeared at the disposal of the Russian Army.

Our sources have just confirmed this information. There is no information yet whether the HIMARS MLRS installation was captured in combat or was sold by the corrupt Ukrainian military, but at the moment the installation is already in Russia.

If HIMARS is in good condition, then such a loss could become quite sensitive for the United States. The study of the installation by our gunsmiths can not only apply American technologies in their developments, but also allow us to develop ways to counter them.
https://t.me/intelslava/33165

Belisarius wrote:Earlier, rumors appeared on the Web that the American HIMARS MLRS rocket launcher appeared at the disposal of the Russian Army.

Our sources have just confirmed this information.  There is no information yet whether the HIMARS MLRS installation was captured in combat or was sold by the corrupt Ukrainian military, but at the moment the installation is already in Russia.

If HIMARS is in good condition, then such a loss could become quite sensitive for the United States.  The study of the installation by our gunsmiths can not only apply American technologies in their developments, but also allow us to develop ways to counter them.
https://t.me/intelslava/33165

Again ...
We talk about an inexpensive truck-mounted MLRS dated back into 80s, that is inferior to Uragan, Smerch, not to mention new Russian systems.
It is nowhere near the Tornado, not to mention Iskander ...
Its ammunition is dumb, ballistic, and relatively slow, making it easy to intercept.
The whole hype about it is just another commercial campaign, just the same as we have already seen with Bayraktar, NLAW, Javelin, M777 etc.
Pay attention, that those are all US-made systems that are being advertised.
Nobody is wanking about a much more interesting Caesar, which allows rapid repositioning and can be really effective in counter-battery warfare.
Nobody is giving a head to PzH2000, that is definitely the best artillery system NATO has.
Nobody is ejaculating about Polish-made Krab, which is one of the most modern SPG in NATO arsenal, being a combo of AS90 and Korean hull.
We talk about a commercial campaign of some specified US-based suppliers, just the same way as Turks were advertising the Bayraktars, to improve it's market potential, to the level of faking videos and presenting them formally at briefings.
War is business, and we see one right now going.

It is fukin' unbelievable, that you really waste your time responding to someone, who has obvious mental problems
But hey, I am neither a doctor nor someone who counts the others' time wasted for nonsense while wasting mine