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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:44 pm

    🇷🇺 Russian Dedence Minister General of the Army Sergei Shoigu inspects Southern and Central groups of troops (forces) involved in special military operation in Ukraine

    ◽ At the command post, Sergei Shoigu was informed by the commander of Southern group of troops General of the Army Sergei Surovikin, the commander of Central group of troops Colonel General Aleksandr Lapin and other commandera about the current situation, the action of the enemy and the progress of combat tasks fulfillment by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

    ◽ After being informed, the chief of Russian military institution gave necessary decrees for intensifying the action of the groups of troops at all  fronts in order to prevent massive missile and artillery attacks launched by the Kiev regime at civilian infrastructure facilities, population of Donbass and other regions.

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    Some shit going down, USA moved consular services to lvov again

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    Post  Belisarius Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:07 pm

    💥High-precision attack launched by Russian Aerospace Forces at a provisional base of 123rd Territorial Defence Brigade of the AFU deployed in Nikolayev has resulted in the elimination of up to 200 nationalists and foreign mercenaries, as well as 13 armoured and motor vehicles.

    💥 Attacks launched by high-precision long-range air-based armament have resulted in the elimination of workshops for producing components and repairing Tochka-U ballistic missiles, as well as MRLS projectiles in Yuzhny Machinery Plant located in Dnepropetrovsk.

    💥In addition, high-precision attacks launched by Russian Aerospace Forces have resulted in the elimination of 4 command posts, including those of 80th Air Assault Brigade near Serebryanka (Donetsk People's Republic) and 3rd Tank Brigade of the AFU near Novopokrovka (Kharkov region), as well as 1 munitions depot near Konstantinovka (Donetsk People's Republic) and 25 areas of AFU manpower and military equipment.

    ✈💥Fighter aviation of Russian Aerospace Forces have destroyed 3 airplanes of Ukrainian Air Forces during an air combat: 2 MiG-29 near Novopavlovka (Nikolayev region), Vladimirovka (Dnepropetrovsk region) and 1 Su-25 near Seversk.

    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2772

    As always the Russian Air Force showing that Western "experts" are just keyboard warriors which don't know shit about real war.

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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:57 pm

    Backman wrote:Looks like Garry was right about Motor Sich. For all intents and purposes , it's history.

    Huge attack on Ukraine’s Yuzhmash Machine-Building Plant (YuMZ) which is a large Ukrainian enterprise for the production of military and rocket-space equipment and other high-tech products, located in the Dnieper.
    Motor Sich is in Zaporozhye.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:16 pm

    The American Embassy in Kiev has stopped its work. The embassy building is closed, no employees are visible, eyewitnesses report. The other day, the United States appealed to its citizens to leave Ukraine. The Americans themselves explain this by the risk of missile strikes, but the main reason may be the possible re-entry of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (and potentially Belarus) into the Kiev region. @@signy


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:18 pm

    Combined with the Americans pulling out of Kiev and the Defense minister visit to Ukraine with Surovikin and Lapin

    Something is serious

    The Z group is massed on Belarus border and activity is occurring near Sumy

    A massive offensive of groups Z , O , and V is about to take place

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:23 pm

    How numerous are these groups, Arkhangelsk?
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:29 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:How numerous are these groups, Arkhangelsk?

    As has been said numerous times, all us observers saw but a fraction of Russian military power

    In words of Putin, "we did not start anything serious yet"

    But with the arrival of Shoigu, and the closure of the US embassy

    I guess the leadership will begin something serious

    I think the attack force will be similar to February 24

    The objectives , I am not sure

    But we can take the strikes that have occurred non stop as a sign

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:39 pm

    VGTRK reporter Alexander Sladkov ARE THEY READY IN THE DONBASS TO "STEP UP THE ACTIONS" OF THE LDPR AND THE RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY GROUPS, AS ORDERED BY SERGEI SHOIGU?

    I went to the positions of the People's Militia of the DPR near Avdiivka. Even ordinary people know: this is one of the most difficult and "impassable" sections of the Ukrainian defense. What's going on there? And there our pressure on the enemy really increases. So far, no one is moving forward, but the idea of the need for a breakthrough is in the air, it is touched upon in the conversations of the comfrey themselves. Here, in my opinion, there is a nuance. We need to go not in a fit of hatred, but when it is profitable. Right now, the enemy is shooting at our positions categorically little or, to be more precise, much less than before. But the fire on the peaceful cities of Donbass has increased significantly. What is the reason? Yes, they are trying to call us to unprepared actions. And we are preparing, building up. Where the enemy's defense bursts, our lava will go there. By the way, in recent days the enemy, even the vaunted "crimson berets" of Ukraine (former paratroopers) — and they are ticking. "rt_russian"


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    Post  GarryB Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:40 pm

    Clearly the expectation of NATzO drones and deciders is that Kiev will win by attacking
    civilians.

    Lets be honest... the HATO drones know Kiev can't win, but as far as they and Kiev are concerned the civilians living in eastern Ukraine they consider to be Russian occupiers so killing them is part of the programme to free up living space in the east for the more pure Ukrainians... where have I heard that before?

    I see no problems with Iran selling drones or production facility to Russia for use in self - defence mode of areas where Russians or Russian speakers are under attack , such as LDPR or Odessa .

    I have no problem with Russia buying Chinese or Iranian drones either, but the facts of the matter are that the only sources for this BS are US sources and are being denied by Russia and China and Iran so unless you have more concrete information... and I don't mean Bellingcat or the CIA or the BBC, I don't really know why this hogwash keeps coming up.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:41 pm

    There is information that 48 missiles were launched from the Astrakhan region across Ukraine. The estimated time of approach of missiles is from 17:00 to 17:50 (depending on the city).

    The real phase 2 is coming

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    Post  Isos Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:43 pm

    Shit that's some good ECM here. The AD missile intercept 100m away fron the target. IMO it's inbuild ECM inside the kh-101.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:47 pm

    July 14

    The State Department has issued a Level 4 Travel Advisory for Ukraine telling U.S. citizens not travel to Ukraine due to Russian military invasion and COVID-19. U.S. citizens in Ukraine should depart immediately if it is safe to do so using any commercial or other privately available ground transportation options. U.S. citizens should not travel to Ukraine due to the active armed conflict and the singling out of U.S. citizens in Ukraine by Russian government security officials.

    The full announcement released on July 14 reads, in full:

    Location: Ukraine

    Event:  The security situation throughout Ukraine continues to be violent and unpredictable due to ongoing military attacks by Russia, with active fighting in country and uncertain safety conditions.  The U.S. Embassy urges U.S. citizens not to enter Ukraine and those in Ukraine to depart immediately using privately available ground transportation options if it is safe to do so.  Avoid large gatherings and organized events as they may serve as Russian military targets anywhere in Ukraine, including its western regions.

    If you hear a loud explosion or if sirens are activated, immediately seek cover. If in a home or a building, go to the lowest level of the structure with the fewest exterior walls, windows, and openings; close any doors and sit near an interior wall, away from any windows or openings.

    If you are outdoors, immediately seek cover in a hardened structure; if that is not possible, lie down and cover your head with your hands.

    Be aware that even if the incoming missile or drone is intercepted, falling debris represent a significant risk.

    After the attack, stay away from any debris, and monitor major news outlets for official guidance.

    The security situation throughout Ukraine is highly volatile, and conditions may deteriorate without warning.  U.S. citizens should remain vigilant and take appropriate steps to increase their security awareness.  Know the location of your closest shelter or protected space.  In the event of mortar and/or rocket fire, follow instructions from local authorities and seek shelter immediately.  If you feel your current location is no longer safe, you should carefully assess the potential risks involved in moving to a different location.

    Actions to Take:

    Visit the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv’s webpage to view the most recent safety and security alerts for U.S. citizens.

    Ensure travel documents are valid and easily accessible.

    Review your personal security plans and always have a contingency plan in place that does not rely on U.S. government assistance.

    Enroll in the Department of State’s Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP). STEP enrollment gives you the latest security updates and makes it easier for the U.S. Embassy to contact you in an emergency.

    Regularly monitor the State Department’s website for current Travel Advisories. Read the Country Specific Information for Ukraine. For additional information, refer to the “Traveler’s Checklist” on the State Department’s website.

    Please see information on What the Department of State Can and Can’t Do in a Crisis.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:57 pm

    ‼🚀💥 "A massive missile attack is being carried out all over Ukraine," - the mayor of Ivano-Frankivsk.
    Explosions in the Cherkasy region and missile flights over the Poltava region, over Dnepropetrovsk traces of air defense missiles in the sky. An air raid alarm is roaring throughout the territory of Ukraine

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    Post  Hole Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:13 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:🇷🇺 Russian Dedence Minister General of the Army Sergei Shoigu inspects Southern and Central groups of troops (forces) involved in special military operation in Ukraine

    ◽ At the command post, Sergei Shoigu was informed by the commander of Southern group of troops General of the Army Sergei Surovikin, the commander of Central group of troops Colonel General Aleksandr Lapin and other commandera about the current situation, the action of the enemy and the progress of combat tasks fulfillment by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

    ◽ After being informed, the chief of Russian military institution gave necessary decrees for intensifying the action of the groups of troops at all  fronts in order to prevent massive missile and artillery attacks launched by the Kiev regime at civilian infrastructure facilities, population of Donbass and other regions.

    @mod_russia_en

    Some shit going down, USA moved consular services to lvov again
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    Post  Hole Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:15 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Did the AD get a decoy as the KH-55 flew by? Commentators seem to think it might.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/8OThV4LSPa1j/
    Clearly the largest embarrasement for NATO and the guys who claim that country 404 has something like an AD system left. All those NATO ISR tools delivering data to the Ukros (according to the "experts") and still they´re not even able to shoot down cruise missiles approaching the western-most cities despite them being in the air for an hour or more.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:30 pm

    Hole wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Did the AD get a decoy as the KH-55 flew by? Commentators seem to think it might.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/8OThV4LSPa1j/
    Clearly the largest embarrasement for NATO and the guys who claim that country 404 has something like an AD system left. All those NATO ISR tools delivering data to the Ukros (according to the "experts") and still they´re not even able to shoot down cruise missiles approaching the western-most cities despite them being in the air for an hour or more.

    It was never that Russia needed to "learn something" or that Russia was "backwards and lacking"

    As we can tell by the air superiority of Russia , it is a question of will

    Russian airforce can increase strike density and placement at will , as long as the political leadership gives the okay

    So it was quarter speed, sparring pace the last months

    And amateur fanboys considered it to be a sign of Russias might

    Well in the last 2 weeks they only caught a glimpse of what Russia can do

    As Putin said, nothing has even been started

    Where is the resident clown, who claims lack of game changing drones and 70km rockets are the main reason for "lack of advance" lol1

    Such an amateur should sit an learn from the experts of the MOD

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    Post  kvs Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:37 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:‼🚀💥 "A massive missile attack is being carried out all over Ukraine," - the mayor of Ivano-Frankivsk.
    Explosions in the Cherkasy region and missile flights over the Poltava region, over Dnepropetrovsk traces of air defense missiles in the sky. An air raid alarm is roaring throughout the territory of Ukraine

    The hater clowns in western Ukraine need to feel the war on their hides. They have been smug in their could-care-less attitudes towards
    the victims of the Kiev regime in eastern and southern parts.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:49 pm

    Su-25 Russian Aerospace Forces over the memorial complex on Savur-Mohyla in the DPR



    RF MSTA-S keeps taking out Ukrainian artillery



    Russian Armed Forces delivered ten tons of humanitarian aid to residents of Lisichansk



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    Post  Ned86 Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:57 pm

    Does anyone have an idea how many strategic cruise missiles were used so far by Russia ?
    I mean Kh101 and Kalibr missiles ?
    Also, any idea how much of these can be supplied by year ?

    From what I could find in from news articles, it seems that Russia normally produce around 50 Kalibr missiles every 3 months, which indicates that it can produce 200 missiles a year.

    First half of the 2016(47 Kalibr missiles)
    second quarter of 2017 (60 Kalibr missiles)
    First quarter of 2019 (48 Kalibr missiles)

    it seems that they are being produced since 2012 which will give us around 2000 missiles produced so far. Some were used in Syria and some in Ukraine.

    in 2020 there was a news article claiming that Russia increased number of cruise missiles 37 times.
    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/20201223056-ubVmI.html
    Let's image that they had 500 Missiles in 2012, it will mean that in 2020 they had almost 20 000.

    Any thoughts on this one ?
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:21 pm

    Regular wrote:
    limb wrote:

    On a separate not, why are Ka-52 crews manually guiding vikhrs instead of using autotrack?

    Good question, I guess they did this in Syria as well as per available footage.

    You probably have noticed that almost 100% of published footage, where air strikes by jets or helis never show gruesome scenes like we used to see from Americans and there beloved bloody thirsty behavior while singing "Bye Bye Ms. American Pie" scenes of shooting civilians to pieces with 30mm HE-FRAG ammunition.

    The russians are very strict of what footage can be published and what not. Every footage of military gatherings of soldiers is filmed and the actual drop of ammunition on them is only filmed if they are in the building, vehicles or just not visible on the footage. The same applies to the usage of weapons, HUD display indicators are also trimmed out that only 60% of the display is visible.

    Since the Ka-50 they have a auto-tracking and targeting system called Okhotnik a 90's technology that only got better with current technologies. They use them on a daily basis but never show it for the public eye. The Americans have also an auto-tracking and targeting System which they also almost never show and I am speaking not from the tracking after manual lock-on, but for the "Target Acquisition System" that relies on image data to recognize possible targets like vehicles, soldiers or buildings and can pre-mark them with a square. This recognized targets don't need to be in the center of the crosshair just somewhere on the display and will be auto-tracked with the push off the button. Similar like FPS games on a console where the aim-acquisition button helps to keep your crosshair on an enemy soldier. Both Russians and Americans have this system and works almost identical with some exceptions, which I have stated somewhere in the Ka-50/52 thread.

    The other reason why we see even one bit of manual targeting of Vikhr or Ataka missiles on target has two reasons...

    1. Manual guidance sometimes is preferred due to geographical positioning and can be guided by an experienced pilot better to avoid striking a building or any kind of obstacle where the enemy vehicle is driving next to or behind.

    2. Manual guidance is used to train the pilot to use the ATGM and have not to rely on auto-tracking/targeting system when sometimes it might not work as intended.

    There is a footage of Vikhr being fired at a Pickup truck that is driving between buildings and is only visible for short periods of time. Automated guidance doesn't work here and only an experienced pilot who practiced manual guidance will have a chance to hit the target. Thus it is important to be able to perform difficult tasks like this, where you can not choose your height or come closer to the target to just be able to use a fancy auto-targeting/guidance system but exposing yourself to the fullest to any potential threat.

    Lets assume you have a vehicle 200 meters behind a building, barely visible from your line of sight. Vikhr moves in a helix flight path spiraling towards its target. The probability of it striking the building is quite high, thus manual guidance is needed to guide it past the building and than move the cursor back on target to hit the target.



    The Ka-52 can guide two Vikhr's at once with its guidance system, which is hard to do with automatic guidance unless Okhotnik 100% of the time can distinguish two targets one from the other. If you have two targets in one frame you can launch the second Vikhr 5 seconds after the first one. This will be enough time to adjust the cursor after impact of the first Vikhr and move it on the second target and kill two targets with manual guidance.


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    Post  owais.usmani Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:23 pm

    Ned86 wrote:Does anyone have an idea how many strategic cruise missiles were used so far by Russia ?
    I mean Kh101 and Kalibr missiles ?
    Also, any idea how much of these can be supplied by year ?

    From what I could find in from news articles, it seems that Russia normally produce around 50 Kalibr missiles every 3 months, which indicates that it can produce 200 missiles a year.

    First half of the 2016(47 Kalibr missiles)
    second quarter of 2017 (60 Kalibr missiles)
    First quarter of 2019 (48 Kalibr missiles)

    it seems that they are being produced since 2012 which will give us around 2000 missiles produced so far. Some were used in Syria and some in Ukraine.

    in 2020 there was a news article claiming that Russia increased number of cruise missiles 37 times.
    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/20201223056-ubVmI.html
    Let's image that they had 500 Missiles in 2012, it will mean that in 2020 they had almost 20 000.

    Any thoughts on this one ?

    And I always wonder Russia should have hundreds (if not thousands) of the older generation Kh-55 and those monster Kh-22 in storage, manufactured in the late eighties and early nineties. They would be a bit less accurate but can be used on large size targets in Ukraine. I hope they have used them instead of them just rusting away in storage.
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    Post  Isos Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:36 pm

    There is peace time production of missiles, jets and any other weapons which is mostly meant to give work to companies over a long period and get a good amount of stocks but there is no hurry.

    The production in war time is totally different since the goal is to produce enough numbers as required by the people on the front.

    You can't guess the numbers from the second case based on the first one.

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    Post  Isos Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:43 pm

    Tank vs tank and btr's.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:52 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    VARGR198 wrote:
    The ethnically Hungarian part of Western Ukraine

    Tweet seems to be deleted. What's it about?



    It could be something related to this?


    https://asaland.proboards.com/thread/278/transcarpathian-rus-demands-independence




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    Post  VARGR198 Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:10 pm

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    VARGR198 wrote:
    The ethnically Hungarian part of Western Ukraine

    Tweet seems to be deleted. What's it about?



    It could be something related to this?


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    It was that Hungary had an emergency meeting about preparing to send peacekeeping forces into the ethnic Hungarian parts of Ukraine.

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