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    Post  Airbornewolf 16/07/22, 08:54 am

    Ned86 wrote:What missile was this one in the video?
    It was extremely fast for sub-sonic Caliber...

    Looks like Hypersonic Justice to me
    At least the one illuminated and flying at crazy speed.
    Dnepropetrovsk is the target zone.





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    Post  PapaDragon 16/07/22, 09:29 am

    ludovicense wrote:EndGameWW3 🇺🇸
    @EndGameWW3
    A Russian military expert says he is convinced that British and American soldiers are engaged on the ground in Ukraine.
    .....................
    This is not a surprise. At least for me. I believe that special troops have been on the ground for some time, not only British and Americans but Poles and Baltic pygmies as well.


    Whatever...

    Just keep shooting, same as usual

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    Post  Sprut-B 16/07/22, 09:30 am

    This is so funny  Razz

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    Post  ucmvulcan 16/07/22, 09:32 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:Secret German tank transport is not so secret any more. clown


    Oh my god, what on Earth could be under those covers?

    Did they hire this guy to handle the packaging?

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    Of course, he made general because he has a cunning plan. . . .

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    Post  Isos 16/07/22, 10:18 am

    Sprut-B wrote:This is so funny  Razz
    ]

    So proud of himself. Seems like he like Donbass people now he met them. Soon he will be the leader of Donbass Very Happy.

    That's a solution, just meet the people uou fight against and you will realize you have no reason to fight them.

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    Post  Isos 16/07/22, 10:19 am

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:Secret German tank transport is not so secret any more. clown


    Oh my god, what on Earth could be under those covers?

    Did they hire this guy to handle the packaging?

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    Of course, he made general because he has a cunning plan. . . .

    It works as planed. Noobs think it's tanks when in reality it's a cocaine-cake for Z birthday.

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    Post  Backman 16/07/22, 10:41 am

    dionis wrote:So what's the deal on judging overall commitment of Russia in terms of its active armed forces?

    We have Shoigu quoted saying Russia had ~170BTGs in August 2021.

    Some sources claim around 100 are deployed now in Ukraine, or 60%.

    Then someone was saying it's only 15 or 20% of overall available armed forces? What gives - does the latter include mobilization?

    Its around the 10-15% number. Putin said recently Russia hasn't even started much of anything yet. He wouldn't be saying that if 60% of forces were deployed to Ukraine.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk 16/07/22, 11:00 am

    I'd say maybe a good amount were in Ukraine when the first push on Kiev happened

    By now I think the amount of BTG is significantly lower, we are talking 70 to 90 BTG

    Out of Army and Rosgvardiya it's around 30% of manpower

    Rosgvardiya has about 300k men

    The Army another 300k

    Mind you most of the BTG currently in Ukraine are mixed , some are Rosgvard and some are Army


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    Post  Vann7 16/07/22, 11:01 am

    thegopnik wrote:vann7 is diagnosed with autism, who bothers to read walls of text with the addition of emojis on every fucking post when there is nothing but gains done by russian ground forces as of now? In the end Ukraine will be taken it doesnt have to be annexed just positions filled in ukraines goverment and military roles. in the end his bitching and moaning does not contribute to Ukraine getting back what it had. let him waste his energy writing walls of text while we move on putting him in the ignore list and just keep updating the news here

    There is a lot of people in Indian forums discussing this , not a single person there agree with the morons that claims this is good tactics. and now an entire discussion video only dedicated to discuss this mediocre tactics by a military channel by true British pilots , not fools from ALL is great in Russia forums. downplaying this "Tactics" too as very poor and weird . So im not the only one  .  

    The real fools are those that claims Strike drones not needed..  The british pilot understood clearly
    those tactics and called them not very good..  Russia airforce close air support is very bad..   . And Good luck with  "observers ,deep inside the battle field" . To "verify" what they really hit.  Laughing   

    For the only reason Russian airforce use this mediocre tactics is because , is there precision weapons
    in combat planes are extremely  low in numbers ,and they can't afford to fight with them that much.
    IF they had  Loitering munition with TV camera ,they simply drop the drone instead of the stupid unguided rockets and they can directly hit /pick and choose the most important targets ,and not just to leave it to the luck , hoping it hits something..  lol1

    Thanks for proving the forums is full of very dumb people .. I rather follow the experts opinion real combat pilots and the discussion with Indian forums with experienced military.. than in Fanboys that attack me , that claims HIMARS are not any better than smerch and uragan. Laughing  or that Strike  drones are over rated..  What a load of crap . lol1



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    Post  thegopnik 16/07/22, 11:14 am

    ukrainians trained by brits https://nitter.nl/spriteer_774400/status/1548038776139591682#m
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    Post  thegopnik 16/07/22, 11:21 am

    Backman wrote:Remember that big mouthed douchbag American so called mercenary in Ukraine? James Vasquez. He managed to get in a fight on a NY subway with a smaller guy. And he lost.


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    Post  Vann7 16/07/22, 11:23 am

    thegopnik wrote:ukrainians trained by brits https://nitter.nl/spriteer_774400/status/1548038776139591682#m


    Why are pilots in Ukraine firing rockets so clumsily?

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    Lofting”, which dates back to the 1940s, suggests both sides lack modern weaponry.

    Russian aircraft have adopted an unusual tactic for firing unguided rockets. Rather than launch them in pairs directly at a target on a downward angle, pilots tend to fly low before climbing and firing an entire pod of rockets steeply upwards, after which the pilot veers away. This clumsy approach, known as “lofting” or “tossing”, has some advantages, but points to a lack of modern weaponry on both sides.

    The technique was originally developed by the American armed forces in the 1940s. To deliver an atomic bomb without having to fly directly over its target, aircraft would make a steep climb before releasing a bomb on an upwards trajectory. The plane would then break off sharply while the bomb continued, achieving the maximum range without catching the aircraft in the blast.


    https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2022/06/20/why-are-pilots-in-ukraine-firing-rockets-so-clumsily

    1940 tactics.. LOL  The Russian airforce is amazing , teaching the world how you achieve "air superiority" in ukraine.   lol1

    all the internet websites discussing ukraine conflict notice exactly the same..
    call this very poor tactics for today modern wars.   Smile

    Russian helicopter gunships are using an unusual and inaccurate way to fire their rockets in Ukraine

    https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-helicopters-fire-rockets-in-unusual-inaccurate-way-in-ukraine-2022-3


    https://theaviationist.com/2022/03/31/new-video-ballistic-rocket-launching-tactic/



    New Video Shows Russian Gunship Helicopters Continue Using Ballistic Rocket-Launching Tactic In Ukraine Few weeks ago we reported about a video coming from Ukraine that showed Russian Ka-52 Hokum-B and Mi-28 Havoc helicopters using what are believed to be unguided 80mm caliber rockets in a pretty unusual way: the clip start with the helicopters flying at low level then pull up into steep climb, and launch the rockets at the top of the parabolic arc of their flightpath, sending them downrange. Then, the footage shows the gunship releasing flares to counter IR-guided MANPADS (Man Portable Air Defense Systems) and breaking hard left and dive down to lower altitude to get out of the air defense systems kill zone.

    As we explained, the above tactic, that turns the Russian helicopters into airborne MLRS (Multiple Launch Rocket System) launchers, extends the range of the rockets but is far from accurate, and could only be effectively employed against soft area targets that do not require accuracy or be used to put psychological pressure on the enemy. It vaguely reminds the toss bombing we have seen used to deliver nuclear weapons by tactical aircraft in the Cold War era: the aircraft approached the target at low altitude and high speed, to avoid detection from the enemy radars and interception by enemy fighters. At a distance calculated by the onboard computer (that would take airspeed, altitude, gyroscopic inputs and determine the release point for the desired ballistic  path), the aircraft would start a pull-up into a half loop. At 45° (in case of “low toss”) or 90° (in case of “high toss” as in the video) in the steady climb, the weapon, with an upward vector, would be automatically released. Once released, the bomb would follow a ballistic arc towards the target: the toss technique was not too accurate, but precise enough to destroy the intended target with a nuclear weapon…

    Even though the Ka-52 fire control system has the functionality to carry out this kind of NLOS (Non-Line of Sight) launch and provide the crew with a roughly accurate launch solution, this type of attack is far from accurate.[/b] [/b]



    Sucks to have to deal with Ignorants fanboys in this forum. Every expert thinks the same like me.. not crazy , those that complain of my findings are simply full of crap and with too low in IQ. No



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    Post  TMA1 16/07/22, 11:35 am

    I didnt know what it was but figured it out myself when I noticed in videos thry always released their payload at a 30 degree climb. It has a cluster bomb effect of sorts. For infantry and light vehicles it is very good. Vann7 you crazy homie.

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    Post  Airbornewolf 16/07/22, 11:39 am

    some vids of today:

    RF strikes at targets of the Ukraine army in Nikolaev



    Z Control eliminates Ukrainian DRG planning to assasinate Kherson officials



    Hurricane artillery hunt for the artillery units that struck Donbass



    RF Military engineers restore the bridges destroyed by the Ukraine Army in the Kharkov region



    If anyone is interested, i also hosted on my channel the series "on your own land".
    it is an documentary series about the events in Ukraine from the LPR/DPR side.
    Currently Episode 1 to 11.
    Its all in Russian, but you get the message if you watch it.

    On your own Land Episode 1

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    Post  Vann7 16/07/22, 11:43 am

    TMA1 wrote:I didnt know what it was but figured it out myself when I noticed in videos thry always released their payload at a 30 degree climb. It has a cluster bomb effect of sorts. For infantry and light vehicles it is very good. Vann7 you crazy homie.

    This is next to useless against Artillery , Command center fortifications ,tanks or well protected storage depots. The Russian airforce should not be wasting its time targeting soft targets. and use precision weapons. not bullshit unguided attacks. and even better if they use TVcamera recording ,that way can hit exactly the most important targets..and have feedback of more potential targets.. Next To useless tactics..    Not im not crazy.. Every experts in the internet agree with me , including real pilots ,you guys simply are a bunch of ignorant . No


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    Post  thegopnik 16/07/22, 11:44 am

    hohol refugees getting their ass kicked throwing the n word around https://t.me/mapsukraine/1008

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    Post  TMA1 16/07/22, 11:50 am

    Vann7 only uses the classiest of yt osint experts like binkov. We dumb and he proved it. It's over...

    Edit: in all seriousness I know you arent crazy vann7. You are even very occasionally somewhat right part of the time. No you spice up these boards with your posts. Come on vann7... you know you like us here. Admit it. Wink

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    Post  thegopnik 16/07/22, 12:01 pm

    TMA1 wrote:Vann7 only uses the classiest of yt osint experts like binkov. We dumb and he proved it. It's over...

    Edit: in all seriousness I know you arent crazy vann7. You are even very occasionally somewhat right part of the time. No  you spice up these boards with your posts. Come on vann7... you know you like us here. Admit it. Wink

    I am sort of like vann7 on defense hub forum, but atleast i dont post walls of texts, find the need to insert emojis on every fucking sentence and post related news information there keeping it brief. I argue there to sometimes but only reason i dont shut up over there is to remind them that ukraine gained nothing back and it is still true despite whatever equipment ukraine gets.

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    Post  d_taddei2 16/07/22, 12:27 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:

    He clogs half the page with bullshit
    I agree. That's something Garry would have to look into. Put him on ice for few weeks or a month.

    Best thing to do is put him on ignore that way u don't see his nonsense. And also never to reply to his nonsense. If EVERYONE did this, he would soon get bored and leave the forum. He's been on my ignore list for months along with a few other trolls, things are much better when reading the pages.


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    Post  Big_Gazza 16/07/22, 12:38 pm

    Ned86 wrote:What missile was this one in the video?
    It was extremely fast for sub-sonic Caliber...

    https://t.me/intelslava/33195

    End of clip shows what looks like a few Ukrainian civilians having a picnic on the river and watching the "liberation missiles" coming in. Ukies who hate the nazi regime and will be future YES voters for joining Russia? Razz

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    Post  Big_Gazza 16/07/22, 12:40 pm

    ludovicense wrote:EndGameWW3 🇺🇸
    @EndGameWW3
    A Russian military expert says he is convinced that British and American soldiers are engaged on the ground in Ukraine.


    .....................

    This is not a surprise. At least for me. I believe that special troops have been on the ground for some time, not only British and Americans but Poles and Baltic pygmies as well.

    Hopefully yes. Russian military museums require specimens for taxidermy and display. Murkans, limeys, poolanders, and baltic goblins of all persuasions are much sought after. Razz

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    Post  Airbornewolf 16/07/22, 12:41 pm

    Melitopol.

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    Post  Airbornewolf 16/07/22, 01:02 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    ludovicense wrote:EndGameWW3 🇺🇸
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    A Russian military expert says he is convinced that British and American soldiers are engaged on the ground in Ukraine.


    .....................

    This is not a surprise. At least for me. I believe that special troops have been on the ground for some time, not only British and Americans but Poles and Baltic pygmies as well.

    Hopefully yes.  Russian military museums require specimens for taxidermy and display.  Murkans, limeys, poolanders, and baltic goblins of all persuasions are much sought after. Razz

    NATO SF are fighting in Ukraine, they have been present since 2014.
    thing is with these guys NATO sends. Is that they sign papers that state that their government disavows their connections to their respective governments.
    If they get killed or captured. Thats it.
    They will not be rescued, their family's will never get the truth of what happened.

    But like Papadragon said, just keep shooting.
    It does not matter, it is just extra Fertilizer.

    The SF roles are not that of direct combat.
    But intelligence gathering, assisting fire support and sabotage.

    The Russian Advance is spearheaded by armor and infantry.
    With Airspace dominated by RF aviation and serious Artillery support.

    They either get out of the way, or die.
    They get spotted, they become an high-value trophy to kill and put on the chimney back home.
    their gear displayed in the Museum in Moscow's Patriot Park.

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    Post  Regular 16/07/22, 01:39 pm

    ludovicense wrote:EndGameWW3 🇺🇸
    @EndGameWW3
    A Russian military expert says he is convinced that British and American soldiers are engaged on the ground in Ukraine.
    .....................
    This is not a surprise. At least for me. I believe that special troops have been on the ground for some time, not only British and Americans but Poles and Baltic pygmies as well.



    I doubt it.

    The whole front would collapse if there would be western soldiers, plenty of Ukrainian meat about. Volunteers do **** all anyway.

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