Russian special military operation in Ukraine #21

ALAMO wrote:

Hole wrote:
Best part: the "leaders of the free and democratic west" believe it. Can´t deceide if this is funny or sad. Or both? 

Like the Russkies are saying, troshka strashno, troshka smeshno. A bit scary, a bit funny

That's mova and not Russian

The CIA is claiming Russian losses are 70,000 so they are now outdoing the Kiev regime propaganda.

flamming_python wrote: will discourage Ukrainian fighters from surrendering.

How exactly will it discourage them from surrendering?

Why should Russia care about and maintain high moral ground with such an enemy?

Dunno why this

"Won't make it to the frontline" crap is still be stated, History has shown Ukraine has no problems getting gear to the frontline despite the many claims said gear never will make it.

It is too big to disguise as a truck or a bus and looks like it would be complex and not so easy to keep in working order and it is about to be crewed by conscripts...

Panzer 2000 is a very good system, If the russians know what's good for them they will not allow that many of those things to reach the frontline

Does not look light or simple or cheap... can't see it lasting any longer than the artillery they had when the war started.

The statement was people HERE saying the weapons won't make it to the front despite the fact many many weapon systems have no problem is just a factually wrong statement

If you read my statement again it wasn't about the chances of it getting or not getting to the front line... it was about how expensive they will be whether they make it to the front line or not and your second comment about the Russians currently enjoying air superiority and also a significant artillery imbalance in their favour suggests you know these vehicles will be hunted from when they arrive in territory until they are silenced or captured... so you are just being pissy about semantics.

The Ukrainian parliament (Verkhovna Rada) on Thursday adopted legislation allowing Poles to legally stay in the country for one and a half years without needing to obtain any special permits while enjoying similar rights as Ukrainians.

Hahaha.... is one of the rights they get the right to be conscripted into the Ukrainian meat shield regiments?

Now cross your fingers and hope Putin makes the poles "bleed for it". Something tells me the treasonous Russian elite will sue for a peace deal before it gets to that - anglos will make sure of it obv. That border is as porous as a whore on a night shift as is already.

As always, hope to be proven wrong

It s a small possibility that Poland and Romania might get some extra territory in return for their support of losing the rest of the Ukraine to Russia and a largely independent small republic of leftovers that Russia does not want but does not want to join the EU either... but odds are such an extra territory would soon join the EU or HATO or both.

Europe and the US might be thinking they will be part of the settlement negotiations but considering their input so far I would doubt Russia would accept their input which means any extra land for Poland or Romania would need to be taken by force, for which Russia would have every reason to stop them and they would not be protected by Article 5.

There is no need to concede anything to the countries currently arming the nazis... especially territory... I think it is more likely their Russian embassies will be closed and they will be warned if they enter Ukrainian territory they become a mercenary army with no rights under the rules of war and will be exterminated because of the threat they present.

Their attack on their own men in a DPR prison is interesting... wonder who they were trying to kill and why... who did they want to shut up and what did they know...

How exactly will it discourage them from surrendering?

Why should Russia care about and maintain high moral ground with such an enemy?

If there is a video of it the Orcs will show every conscript the video about 10 times during their training period to remind them who they are fighting and why they are fighting and why they should not surrender.

Of course they will not be shown any videos of their own people doing the same and worse to their prisoners because that does not help their cause...

Video of M-270 launch. Looking at the rocket trails there seems to be explosions, are there what I think they are, interceptions?

From here https://defence-blog.com/us-made-mlrs-heavy-rocket-launchers-carry-out-combat-ops-on-russian-targets/

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=745552666770317

Mir wrote:

nomadski wrote:

Even if pontoon is connected and fixed for short time , it provides target for BM . Unless each section is motorised and crossing in particular location very short for troops . A matter of trial and error . Best use Barges / landing craft , for troops and supplies and Armour . These are in constant motion . The UA should now get rid of the NAZI leadership , take over power and declare cease-fire with Russia , followed by negotiations .

The pontoon bridges can either be fixed or used as "barges/ferries".

And not forgetting the rarely mentioned but equally, if not more, important to military logistics railway bridge 4 miles or so up river.

JohninMK wrote:

Mir wrote:

nomadski wrote:

Even if pontoon is connected and fixed for short time , it provides target for BM . Unless each section is motorised and crossing in particular location very short for troops . A matter of trial and error . Best use Barges / landing craft , for troops and supplies and Armour . These are in constant motion . The UA should now get rid of the NAZI leadership , take over power and declare cease-fire with Russia , followed by negotiations .

The pontoon bridges can either be fixed or used as "barges/ferries".

And not forgetting the rarely mentioned but equally, if not more, important to military logistics railway bridge 4 miles or so up river.

Nope, its all lost. Putin should just surrender. I mean 70,000 dead per the CIA and probably three times as many wounded, Russia has now lost more troops than they had at the start of the war, and a bridge was damaged so all Russian troops west of the Urals are cut off, oh noes. . . .

This just in, the western media's reports of Russia's demise may be greatly exaggerated.

flamming_python wrote:

Criminals must be court-martialed. There is no excuse for loss of discipline to this degree in the ranks.

Such actions damage the war-effort significantly. I haven't seen the video and can't say whether it's true or not, but it will be used in Ukrainian propaganda and will discourage Ukrainian fighters from surrendering.

It’s in two parts and first one looks fake, even camo looks UA, then you get Z patch conveniently getting in the camera. Second part video - doesn’t look fake. Guy gets shot in the head for real. Also, weird that there is white Z vehicle in the background. I have my doubts (like with all videos from both sides) but it seems it is most likely real. And it doesn’t matter at this point, for Ukrainians it’s real and they will react to this. Civilian car with Z could mean that it was not Russian army troops, uniforms are also would point to DNR/LNR guys so maybe finding and punishing who did this might not be easy.
If true - I don’t care if he was a pedo or not, DNR have room for those in their jail and if needed can use capital punishment. These videos demoralise, but not the enemy.

I hope it won’t become a trend like TikTok execution challenges as I believe Ukrainians still have enough of people who are willing to do similar procedures.

Orcs insist on fakes 24/7 and now any claimed video of infamy is automatically for Russia to deny and prove fake?? GTFO...

LMFS wrote:Orcs insist on fakes 24/7 and now any claimed video of infamy is automatically for Russia to deny and prove fake?? GTFO...

Yes, this is how it works when you don’t control media narrative.
It’s already declared as a fact on western media that turns silent for every Ukrainian crime.

Now the video itself is of an actual execution. I can’t prove anything else nor I am interested in milking this, especially when UA killed over 50 their own POWs. One guy executed pales in comparison to this crime. Systematic crime is something else

Slavyangrad reported:

The claim that the soldier engaged in castration is Russian and the soldier being castrated is Ukrainian in the video that surfaced on Ukrainian social media two days ago is heavily disputed.

Nor is it not the position of Slavyangrad that the video has been confirmed to be authentic and not staged or otherwise not genuine.

The video made an appearance at the most convenient time for Ukrainians, as usual.

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So who did who? Wtf?

https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/16375

A US soldier drove off a bridge in Klaipeda

**** what a way to die , the crash is there

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JohninMK wrote:Video of M-270 launch. Looking at the rocket trails there seems to be explosions, are there what I think they are, interceptions?

From here https://defence-blog.com/us-made-mlrs-heavy-rocket-launchers-carry-out-combat-ops-on-russian-targets/

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=745552666770317

They are just entering a cloud layer so it has that visual effect.

Arkanghelsk wrote:Slavyangrad reported:

The claim that the soldier engaged in castration is Russian and the soldier being castrated is Ukrainian in the video that surfaced on Ukrainian social media two days ago is heavily disputed.

Nor is it not the position of Slavyangrad that the video has been confirmed to be authentic and not staged or otherwise not genuine.

The video made an appearance at the most convenient time for Ukrainians, as usual.

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So who did who? Wtf?

One testicle was Ukrainian another was Russian.

Who cares at this point, just hope it doesn't become a normal everyday for both sides, I know Ukrainians threatened to do this on national TV- I am afraid to imagine what they do in secret. They still hold Russian POWs btw. Pilots and sentenced ones.

Belisarius wrote:
During reconnaissance and search activities in the area of ​​​​the LPR liberated from the enemy, special forces discovered 12 Ukrainian tanks and BMP-2 with damage. During the inspection of armored vehicles, the National Guard seized five 12.7-mm Utes machine guns, more than a hundred grenades for a 40-mm foreign-made CR16 automatic grenade launcher, and cartridges of various calibers for small arms.

@RVvoenkor
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/16264

Why are they all T-72s? Did Ukraine capture that many russian tanks? How many T-72Bs did Ukraine have before the war?

Arkanghelsk wrote:Slavyangrad reported:

The claim that the soldier engaged in castration is Russian and the soldier being castrated is Ukrainian in the video that surfaced on Ukrainian social media two days ago is heavily disputed.

Nor is it not the position of Slavyangrad that the video has been confirmed to be authentic and not staged or otherwise not genuine.

The video made an appearance at the most convenient time for Ukrainians, as usual.

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So who did who? Wtf?

Maybe someone (CIA/MI&) put one of their Uigurs in a russian-like uniform.   This wouldn´t make it to the Top 500 of their crimes.

This is like the pic of two burning S-300 trucks a few pages ago. Some pro-Nazi page posts a blurry pic from something that is in service with the Russian Army and the Nazi gangs formerly known as VSU. They claim "It´s Russians!!!" and we got page long discussions how this could happen and where the Pantsir or Tor systems where to defend it...

The regime in Kiev and its leaders in Washington/London/Brussels are lying for 8 years/150+ years respectively. Don´t believe anything until it is proven by at least 5 other sources, including official russian ones.

kvs wrote:

ALAMO wrote:

Hole wrote:
Best part: the "leaders of the free and democratic west" believe it. Can´t deceide if this is funny or sad. Or both? 

Like the Russkies are saying, troshka strashno, troshka smeshno. A bit scary, a bit funny

That's mova and not Russian

The CIA is claiming Russian losses are 70,000 so they are now outdoing the Kiev regime propaganda.

The CIA got more "analysts" to pay.

The next mayor of Kiev 

Putin misusing his powers

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Footage posted by a RIA Novosti correspondent shows wreckage of HIMARS ammunition at the Elenovka pre-detention center - where a reported 53 Ukrainian prisoners were killed and 75 more injured.

Kiev had previously attempted to blame the strike on Russian forces, branding it a “petrifying war crime”. The fragments of Western-supplied weapons may tell a different story.

https://t.me/rtnews/27453