Russian special military operation in Ukraine #23

thegopnik wrote:Jesus this is more humiliating than the chinese threatening pelosi and not doing anything when she entered Taiwan.

ucmvulcan wrote:

thegopnik wrote:Jesus this is more humiliating than the chinese threatening pelosi and not doing anything when she entered Taiwan.

Such a narrow front of advance, they are just itching to be bombed, straffed, and cut off from all path of retreat.

Arkanghelsk wrote:

ucmvulcan wrote:

thegopnik wrote:Jesus this is more humiliating than the chinese threatening pelosi and not doing anything when she entered Taiwan.

Such a narrow front of advance, they are just itching to be bombed, straffed, and cut off from all path of retreat.

Nope, Balakleya right and left flank were abandoned by Russian army

They have taken it all , the only bulge is by Shevchenko, but everything west of the river has fallen into AFU hands

ucmvulcan wrote:

Oh shit, what the f*** are the commanders thinking there?

thegopnik wrote:I feel like this was never about the ukraine war but a reason to shorten overpopulation in Russia. They took that much territory in a few days while we are still stuck god knows how long having 1/3rd of ukraine.

Regular wrote:Overpopulation of Russia is not a thing. Not that this will cause a big dent. Maybe in Ukraine, mostly not from deaths but from emmigration. What we are seeing now is operational **** up, salvageable, but at what cost?

I think UA forces need to be crushed and puppet leadership removed by any means. Rest of it it’s just child play.

Soviets would have rolled this counteroffensive inside out.

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Russian army was routed from balakleya, it is the biggest defeat of the war

The scale of offensive is unreal of AFU

Izyum is under threat, and the entire grouping north of Slavyansk is at risk

Regular wrote:


No words. Civilians will be rounded by Ukrainians.

I have no words for this betrayal. And they were talking about Russian passporta and referendum… As I said before, if you are civilian, it’s best to pretend to be a retard and don’t support any sides because of this.

zorobabel wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Russian army was routed from balakleya, it is the biggest defeat of the war

The scale of offensive is unreal of AFU

Izyum is under threat, and the entire grouping north of Slavyansk is at risk

The situation is precarious right now for Izyum. If the AFU develop their offensive southward and cut the highway to Izyum, the city becomes difficult to reinforce or defend.

If Izyum falls, the possibility of ever capturing Slavyansk and Kramatorsk is diminished greatly. As we can see from Artyomovsk, advancing from one side is painfully slow, and the Slavyansk-Kramatorsk-Konstantinovka agglomeration has 10x the population of Artyomovsk.

JohninMK wrote:Todays meeting in Ramstein AB

The latest batch of security assistance to Ukraine includes:

   Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS)
   1,000 155mm rounds of Remote Anti-Armor Mine Systems
   Four 105mm Howitzers and 36,000 105mm artillery rounds
   Additional High-Speed Anti-Radiation Missiles (HARMs)
   100 Armored High-Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWV), better known as Humvees
   1.5 million rounds of small arms ammunition
   More than 5,000 anti-armor systems
   Additional grenade launchers and small arms
   50 armored medical treatment vehicles
   Night vision devices and other field equipment.

caveat emptor wrote:Ukrainians performed something closest to Soviet theory of deep operation in this war. Question is, will they'll be able to follow up and reinforce in order to bank on this success.
If not, they'll wither away. Whoever was in command of this sector on Russian side, fucked up. There was enough intel beforehand.
There wasn't even echeloned defense by the looks of it. Guys that defended Balakleya, held heroically, but i hope they managed to withdraw over the river, as it doesn't make sense for them to hold the city.

Arkanghelsk wrote:

zorobabel wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Russian army was routed from balakleya, it is the biggest defeat of the war

The scale of offensive is unreal of AFU

Izyum is under threat, and the entire grouping north of Slavyansk is at risk

The situation is precarious right now for Izyum. If the AFU develop their offensive southward and cut the highway to Izyum, the city becomes difficult to reinforce or defend.

If Izyum falls, the possibility of ever capturing Slavyansk and Kramatorsk is diminished greatly. As we can see from Artyomovsk, advancing from one side is painfully slow, and the Slavyansk-Kramatorsk-Konstantinovka agglomeration has 10x the population of Artyomovsk.

There's no other choice BUT to reinforce Kharkov

Losing Izyum means all the gains made in last months get rolled back

Even if Ukros simply get to the city, logistics will ve difficult to feed north of Slavyansk

Forget about attacking Barvenkovo or Slavyansk from North West now, and of 3rd AK was up there, they got bigger problems now then deciding how to attack

JohninMK wrote:Todays meeting in Ramstein AB

The latest batch of security assistance to Ukraine includes:

   Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS)
   1,000 155mm rounds of Remote Anti-Armor Mine Systems
   Four 105mm Howitzers and 36,000 105mm artillery rounds
   Additional High-Speed Anti-Radiation Missiles (HARMs)
   100 Armored High-Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWV), better known as Humvees
   1.5 million rounds of small arms ammunition
   More than 5,000 anti-armor systems
   Additional grenade launchers and small arms
   50 armored medical treatment vehicles
   Night vision devices and other field equipment.

During a press conference from Germany on Sept. 8, Austin, along with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army Gen. Mark Milley, said Ukraine is showing demonstrable battlefield success with donated weaponry.

“We are seeing real and measurable gains from Ukraine and the use of these systems,” Milley said.

The first batch of M777 155mm howitzers was delivered to Ukraine in April. Since then, the U.S. has delivered 126 M777s and nearly 500,0000 rounds of ammunition. Ukraine has struck more than 400 targets with HIMARS loaded with Guided Multiple-Launch Rocket System (GMLRS) rounds, Milley said.
U.S. Army HIMARS fire rockets at Fort Drum, New York, in August. U.S. Army Photo by Sgt. 1st Class Richard Frost

“It has had a devastating effect,” Milley said. “Russian lines of communication and supply channels are severely strained. It is having a direct impact on the Russian ability to project and sustain combat power. Russian command and control in the headquarters have been disrupted and they're having great difficulty resupplying their forces and replacing their combat losses.”

Arkanghelsk wrote:
Yeah they punched a hole and expanded a giant bridgehead into a gain

They are consolidating

Again remember they fought against SOBR and LDNR

But I can't make excuses

I hope some guys got out, but the idea that not one CAA was sent in to at least fire on these guys from afar is strange

Again I don't think it's a question of capacity but of political restraint on the military

Like they have to get approval to do anything

caveat emptor wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:
Yeah they punched a hole and expanded a giant bridgehead into a gain

They are consolidating

Again remember they fought against SOBR and LDNR

But I can't make excuses

I hope some guys got out, but the idea that not one CAA was sent in to at least fire on these guys from afar is strange

Again I don't think it's a question of capacity but of political restraint on the military

Like they have to get approval to do anything

It was a known fact that Ukrainians are concentrating forces in the area at least a week before attack. Whoever is in command there, should have a one or two BTG in reserve, i hope?
It looked like when they pierced first line, that there was almost nobody behind them. Also worth to mention that this area is much better to attack then Kherson.

Podlodka77 wrote:
Arkhangelsk, I can't be silent anymore - you're an idiot for a gold medal ! Who the **** are you ? What do you know ? A psycho sitting in an armchair and just hysterical, that's you. In the Russian General Staff and in the Kremlin, they are certainly cutting their veins and panicking, and they are planning to evacuate the population beyond the Urals. Come on, stop it ! Arkhangelsk, go to VLADIVOSTOK and you will be safer !
I'm fed up with more of you smartass - stop it. If Russia is not mobilizing and everything is working as it is, then there must be a reason for that. Do you sit in the Kremlin or Putin? Is Gerasimov the Chief of the General Staff or is it Arkhangelsk ?
Hello morons, you are just ordinary forum members and you don't know nothing - just like I don't know what the Russian plan is.

I can't stand pathos and cleverness, I get mad at that. Arkhangelsk and others like him "know" how and when aviation should be used, they "know" how and where troops should be deployed, just as they "know" what games are being played behind the scenes - what none of us can see. What a bunch of pathetic cowards...

caveat emptor wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:
Arkhangelsk, I can't be silent anymore - you're an idiot for a gold medal ! Who the **** are you ? What do you know ? A psycho sitting in an armchair and just hysterical, that's you. In the Russian General Staff and in the Kremlin, they are certainly cutting their veins and panicking, and they are planning to evacuate the population beyond the Urals. Come on, stop it ! Arkhangelsk, go to VLADIVOSTOK and you will be safer !
I'm fed up with more of you smartass - stop it. If Russia is not mobilizing and everything is working as it is, then there must be a reason for that. Do you sit in the Kremlin or Putin? Is Gerasimov the Chief of the General Staff or is it Arkhangelsk ?
Hello morons, you are just ordinary forum members and you don't know nothing - just like I don't know what the Russian plan is.

I can't stand pathos and cleverness, I get mad at that. Arkhangelsk and others like him "know" how and when aviation should be used, they "know" how and where troops should be deployed, just as they "know" what games are being played behind the scenes - what none of us can see. What a bunch of pathetic cowards...

@Garry, ban this guy. This is not the first time he insults other members of this forum. This shouldn't be tolerated anymore.

Podlodka77 wrote:

Мулац, да ли те је неко нешто питао ?