Russian special military operation in Ukraine #23

And from MOD still crickets.

ALAMO wrote:

caveat emptor wrote:
I agree. I've seen numbers quoted btw 17-20k. Btw, many batallions are not full strength batallions. They are mostly 250-400 troops, so maybe that is where confusion comes from.

Those sent from Chechenya were about 500 ppl, I counted them roughly
It is a proper battalion size, the numbers can vary from 300 to even 800 people.

I've seen numbers for Tatar battalions and ones from Bashkiria.

Isos wrote:Biggest looser of the war is the su-34. Junk aircraft. Su-35 was successful when used but can't be used for close support. Su-25/ka-52/mi-28 used as MLRS system.

Why junk? It didn’t do anything particularly bad.


Su-25 - very limited usage seen. And yes, they can be used as MLRS due to angle of attack it should be much mote accurate than helicopters shooting unguided rockets.

Usage of airforce is very limited in almost all fronts, but the losses are very small too.

There's fights in vicinity of Lyman. It has to be held at any cost.

If Russia really allows Ukraine to win this war, Putin, Shoigu and all of the current leadership needs to resign and be exiled. They can't be this dumb and pathetic to allow a NATO victory of this magnitude right on their damn border!

There is a official statement from Russian MoD!

No panic it's all according to plan, a regrouping ist taking place for the offensive in Donbass direction. So only a regrouping.

Copium level 100! Complete ignoring the reality and also all informations for big reinforcements were bullshit, the reinforcements are there to protect the retreat of russian forces.

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Evacuation of Veliky Burluk and Voltschansk is taking place, also ukrainian attacks in this direction. It looks like Russia will abandon the WHOLE Kharkov region. O.o

This retreat from Kharkov is reminding me of the retreat from Kiev a few months back. I don't understand the point of this SMO anymore. Is the point for Russia to embarrass itself and look weak on the world stage? Are they even truly trying to win this war anymore? WTF is going on?

billybatts91 wrote:This retreat from Kharkov is reminding me of the retreat from Kiev a few months back. I don't understand the point of this SMO anymore. Is the point for Russia to embarrass itself and look weak on the world stage? Are they even truly trying to win this war anymore? WTF is going on?

You contradicted yourself in one post

SMO doesn't mean it's a war. Russia has refrained from declaring war.

The purpose of this conflict has been at first complete liberation of Lughansk and Donetsk. First part is completed. DNR liberation was next. Kherson will be third. After that it would be assumed Kharkov and the like. But that's assuming.

Russia left Kharkov before.

sepheronx wrote:

billybatts91 wrote:This retreat from Kharkov is reminding me of the retreat from Kiev a few months back. I don't understand the point of this SMO anymore. Is the point for Russia to embarrass itself and look weak on the world stage? Are they even truly trying to win this war anymore? WTF is going on?

You contradicted yourself in one post

SMO doesn't mean it's a war. Russia has refrained from declaring war.

The purpose of this conflict has been at first complete liberation of Lughansk and Donetsk.  First part is completed. DNR liberation was next.  Kherson will be third.  After that it would be assumed Kharkov and the like.  But that's assuming.

Russia left Kharkov before.  

lol, pure copium. Luhansk and Donetsk are under threat of being lost as well.

billybatts91 wrote:

lol, pure copium. Luhansk and Donetsk are under threat of being lost as well.

Give it a rest man, nothing else to be said about it -

It is what it is - at this point you must draw your own conclusions - no point arguing to convince those who cannot use their own eyes

billybatts91 wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

billybatts91 wrote:This retreat from Kharkov is reminding me of the retreat from Kiev a few months back. I don't understand the point of this SMO anymore. Is the point for Russia to embarrass itself and look weak on the world stage? Are they even truly trying to win this war anymore? WTF is going on?

You contradicted yourself in one post

SMO doesn't mean it's a war. Russia has refrained from declaring war.

The purpose of this conflict has been at first complete liberation of Lughansk and Donetsk.  First part is completed. DNR liberation was next.  Kherson will be third.  After that it would be assumed Kharkov and the like.  But that's assuming.

Russia left Kharkov before.  

lol, pure copium. Luhansk and Donetsk are under threat of being lost as well.

Last I checked, they weren't.

Where in donetsk and lughansk have they taken and advancing through?

flamming_python wrote:

billybatts91 wrote:If Russia really allows Ukraine to win this war, Putin, Shoigu and all of the current leadership needs to resign and be exiled. They can't be this dumb and pathetic to allow a NATO victory of this magnitude right on their damn border!

https://twitter.com/mdfzeh/status/1568591412148506625?cxt=HHwWgsC47YPl4MQrAAAA

That dude is hillarious

Tell him to sit back, sit tight and pop a chill pill
Take one yourself too

So what's gonna happen next? Why should we be calm? Things are looking very disastrous at the moment. What can Russia do realistically to turn the tide at the moment? There's a lot of cope going around...pretending like everything will magically turn out all right in the end. BS fantasies.

The military-civilian administration of the Volchansky district reports that the RF Armed Forces are leaving Volchansk.

Earlier it became known that the Armed Forces of Ukraine crossed the Seversky Donets near the village of Khotomlya and began to advance in the direction of Volchansk. The city is located just a few kilometers from the Russian-Ukrainian border.

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Out of Kharkov

The full statement of the Russian Defense Ministry on the situation in the Kharkov region:
In order to achieve the objectives of the SMO, it was decided to regroup troops in the areas of Balakleya and Izyum to increase efforts in the Donetsk direction.
Over the last 3 days, an operation was carried out to curtail and transfer the Izyum-Balakleya group of troops to the territory of the DPR.
In order to prevent damage to the troops of the Russian Federation, a powerful artillery barrage was inflicted on the enemy including with the use of aviation.
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation destroyed more than 2.000 Ukrainian and foreign fighters, as well as over 100 armored vehicles and artillery units in three days.


Geroman
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I see this forum has turned into a shitstorm with armchair generals and couch commandos have decided what needs to be done.

I suppose Garry can lock this thread now since Ukraine apparently won the war. I guess it's over now.

PhSt wrote:Since the start of the NATzO Kherson incursion, I took a break from reading any new updates on the front, I was hoping for a new Russian breakthrough in the war when I come back, but to my surprise, the opposite has happened. Just what the *** is the russian MOD thinking?

Where is the FOABs? Start Bombing all critical infrastructures in Pukraine already! Bomb all powerplants, water stations, make the entire Pukranian nation suffer from starvation! This is a War of Extermination and the Russian MOD needs to understand that!

Putin is an overrated leader and the army is not what we thought it was. They're scared that if they go all out they'll be labeled "war criminals". Pathetic leadership from top to bottom. I feel sorry for the poor soldiers who have died and been wounded for this crummy midget named Putin and that doofus Shoigu.