Still it would be nice if they would bring back the original pre-soviet name of Aleksandrovsk (used until 1921).
They are having referendums soon... maybe they could add a question about changes Kiev and the Soviets have made and what needs to be rolled back.
In 'elensky's office, the West called on Kiev to deploy long-range missiles and Abrams tanks
They want Abrams tanks... they must have too much fuel...
And of course all their armoured recovery vehicles wont handle vehicles of that weight, not to mention learning to service and operate...
Anyways, if I were a Russian tank design team I would be ecstatic at Ukraine getting Abrams because in short order the DPR and LPR will get them, and then Russian design bureaus would be able to thoroughly test and study them.
I would doubt they will be getting any decent version with modern add ons... it would just be a history lesson and confirmation that Soviet tanks were better than western tanks...
Russia isn't going to attack US bases over sent equipment, I love how you children seem to wish for nuclear death for NATO/US and Russia go at it directly it will come down to that and billions will perish.
The west is creating this situation and seems uninterested in quitting poking the bear and the dragon. The end of the west seems to be the only way this might end, and an economic collapse is more likely than a nuclear death... Putin is not stupid... he repeatedly mentions Nuclear responses as being suicide rather than any sort of solution. Sadly western politicians seem to think Russia fears the west and that somehow the west is powerful enough to dictate terms to Russia.
We see them repeat the same mistakes over and over... including now in the Pacific towards China.
Economic collapse and perhaps some realisation that the west does need cheap Russian energy after all are two things that might change the attitude of western politicians and the trajectory of politics in the west... but I am not holding my breath... Russia is not going to give the EU discounts on energy... they are looking to provide cheap energy to China and Asia instead.
As the old saying goes be careful what you wish for.
Love the Irony of you saying that... the current situation has been a goal for the US and the west for a very long time... they actively worked to create this situation and now you are scared it might escalate?
The real world is unpredictable and thinking you can escalate and escalate to the point where you get one country murdering the people of a neighbouring country and no one else has a problem with that which creates a war between those two countries... well what were you expecting... they would do this but not that?
Regardless this should have been done months ago, but I do love when the armchair experts get proven wrong
They are mobilising specific men and women who have combat experience... they have said nothing about who and what they will be used for.
For all we know they might be mostly air force personnel and they are going to start obliterating the west and north of the Ukraine, and also hitting HATO supply lines and instead of monitoring HATO support nodes in Ukraine... hitting them instead. And of course hitting people with power who have not done anything so far to stop all of this... hit their houses and businesses and assets... burn the fields...
Abrams was designed for Euro plains, intended to meet the advancing soviet tank formations.
So they would work fine in ukraine and most bridges can carry them easily.
The support infrastructure of the Orc Army is going to have to triple its funding and capacity to keep them running though.
What is considered the great planes of Europe has been that way before tanks were invented and the infrastructure is the same
It is OK.... Russia is not Europe so when Russia occupies Ukraine then those great plains stop being European and start being Half Asian...
Also, Abrams or no abrams, where they will get competent crews for them? We seen what happens when noob gets into BMP... And Abrams tanks are more sophisticated...
And thirsty.
So far western intel was spot on with regard to the SMO , mobilization, and now they speak of nuclear strikes
They were spot on for a reason... they knew they were attacking the Donbass on March 8th and so of course they made it public they thought Russia was going to attack Kievs forces... it served several purposes at once. It meant that if Russia didn't attack, they could use their claims for several weeks that Russia was going to attack as a pretext for their own attack. It was also in a sense a double bluff... saying they were going to attack might stop them attacking and allow Kievs attack to go in on schedule.
Either way, the reason they knew they were going to attack was no inside information, but the knowledge that Kiev was going to attack and of course the sensible response when you find that out is to attack them first.... by saying Russia was going to attack they were essentially saying their own information security is shit.
If they bungle this, which they did in Kharkov, it will lead to precisely what NATO is saying
The tail wags the dog, in this case NATO crafted every response to Moscow decisions
This decision was foreseen and told about by NATO, just like nuclear strikes
You have more faith in HATO than in your own government and military... you should be ashamed.
The mobilization means they seek to increase the pace and scale of assault
Why do you think that?
NATO foresaw this and has implemented its own plan to go after the draftees
As well as execution videos of draftees
Is it in your trolling contract to mention HATO in every paragraph?
You wanted escalation and now it seems they are responding and now you cry for all the extra Russian soldiers that are going to die because of it.
Only Putin and his yes men are stupid enough to be led into this scenario
You post bullshit scenarios that you made up yourself and then call Putin stupid for falling for things that have not happened... sounds like the gene pool you represent needs a little chlorine... the water to urine ratio is too far gone.
The Key two letters in your prediction is the E and the X in front of that
Hodges rank... ex General means **** all... he gets no say and has no power but you want Putin replaced because of the bullshit he is spouting.
What needs to happen is a large scale bombardment of all of Ukraine
Hahahahaha... get your head out of your arse... when has a large scale bombardment every won a conflict?
Did strategic bombing defeat London or Berlin, did strategic bombing win WWII?
Once he finishes the war, he must leave and go to the background - simple as that
Again the pro western comment.... did Hillary Clinton write your post for you?
Or was it Navalny?
Not quite, the conscripts are already prepared
Remember two drafts are conducted every year
Those guys can go to Ukraine and provide half the manpower of the "300,000"
The rest can be assembled from other veterans
Those forces will provide the 2nd echelon of the main attack force - Wagner, Army, Chechens and such
If Those conscripts are sent into combat to exploit breakthroughs, the VKS must bomb ahead of them indiscriminately
Are you stupid. They are not going to send green conscripts to Ukraine... they already said the mobilisation is of troops who already have combat experience.
For all we know they might be calling up all the soldiers that have spent time in Ukraine and Syria operating drones and that the 300K mobilisation is to use recently made or bought drones.
There is no possible nuclear crisis. That's the end of the world, at least in the West
Putin clearly stated before that when Russia was fighting Kievs forces that were attacking autonomous Ukrainian regions of Donbass and Lugansk that Russia could not use nuclear weapons by definition of the rules regarding their use.
If the Donbass and Lugansk and other regions have a referendum on joining the Russian Federation and the Russian Federation accepts their application to join then they become part of the territory of Russia... for which Russia is obliged to defend and that frees up the use of any weapons including nuclear, given sufficient external threat.
Note that their calculations are predicated upon their conviction that Putin will never risk strategic war with the West. A rather reckless assumption that puts the lives of tens of millions of their citizens at risk.
If the west is being a part of this conflict then Russia has little choice... with their constant escalations from the US and EU this can only get to nuclear weapons use... the west refuses to back down for the purposes of their over developed egos, and Russia is committing to the people in Ukraine opposed to nazis and europe.
the joint forces stand against "not only the neo-Nazi forces, but effectively the entire military machine of the collective West," which threatens Russia’s very existence.
Sounds like it justifies the use of nukes if they think it would make a difference.
Kornet doesn´t care if it´s a T-64, Leo2 or M1.
Khrisantema wont care either.
I wonder if any Russian pilots were freed too? Or that dude tankist who was sentenced for life. All Russian POWs need to be extracted as soon as possible, 30 Ukrainian soldiers or some foreigners mean very little now, no point to marinate them, they are only good for exchanging as all political pressure doesn't seem to work
The situation Kiev is in their returned prisoners are likely to just get fed back through the meat grinding machine again so they will get another shot at them.
What they are saying is that those called up, will serve now in Ukraine
No they are not. They are mobilising men who have already served and already had combat experience... they are getting guys from the Ukraine conflict to give them an update on training based on what they are doing now in the Ukraine, and then those troops with combat experience will be moved to the Ukraine... and if you think about it it is pretty obvious... if the Donbass and Lugansk declare they want to join the RF and have referendums that endorse that (not something that happened in Kosovo... no referendum there BTW) then they are going to become Russian territory as soon as the Russian Federation gives the OK... which means I suspect those 300K could just form the basis of the Russian Federation Army along with their new LDNR fellow soldiers.
But now that will change, those called up will go to Ukraine and free up volunteers for offensive actions
The mobilisation is of reservists with combat experience... they wont be conscripts.
They are just taking already serving conscripts and mandating their use in Ukraine
That would be there is no mobilisation if they are using already serving conscripts.
It's as I said, this is not a true Mobilization, just authorization of conscripts (military experience) for use in Ukraine
Stop calling them conscripts... you posted yourself that only men who have already served that have already been to combat and are specialists will be mobilised... the ones that have already been in combat means Crimea or Ukraine or Syria or special forces somewhere else.
Right, except they have not been used so far
That's how you get 300k, you take conscripts and you use them for rear
Will you stop calling them conscripts... Russia has only sent professional contract soldiers to war zones except in error and they are hardly going to compound that error by doing it again.
A mobilisation means getting men that are not currently serving the armed forces back in to the armed forces. Using the last batch of conscripts would not be a mobilisation and they wont have combat experience so they wont be eligible for mobilisation by the definition you just posted yourself.
Perhaps that is your problem... is your understanding of what words mean a bit loose?
One thing we can say with certainty is that Kharkhov fiasco was interpreted as a failure and not some tactical retreat or regrouping, as it was originally interpreted by MoD.
And that is a good thing.
Not a failure, a consequence of the tactics being used and HATO exploitation... it was actually rather a success in terms of the tactics and their intent to grind the enemy... more enemy forces were ground up in a couple of weeks than for the month before.
Ex conscripts, and conscripts lol
And you are as dumb as they come hahaha weren't you saying there was NO mobilization coming?
They haven't sent conscripts to combat since Chechnia (on purpose) so the requirement for combat experience essentially eliminates conscripts from the mobilisation.
The fact that they want specialists I would suspect artillery men, Pilots and ground crew for aircraft, and drone operators might be some of the specialisations they will focus on.
In other words ... conscripts, or what do you call some one with military experience that was not contract ?
It is not military experience... it is combat experience... which means ex contract soldiers.
The only worthwhile Ukrainian is the one that wants to join Russia.
I suspect he has seen the light... the Donbass and Lugansk only wanted autonomy in 2014 and now they want to join the RF.
Starting to think this conflict is going to get out of hand. Weapon production goes into war mode. 300 thousand more men. What's worse is that Putin seems convinced that he has no other solution than total war. Clearly he's going for the hard-liners.
I think Putin is realising the west thinks he is weak... perhaps a months blood bath over winter will make them realise he means to protect Russia and Russians from the west... even if he has to destroy the Ukraine.
This is why I don't trust the Kremlin to run a lemonade stand
How do you send troops and armor into urban areas without fire preparation?
Why do you think Putin personally micro managed everything?
I am sure you never made any mistakes in your life...
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), and once his leash is secured by his liberators and he accepts the limits of his authority, he will be an asset in the East-Ukrainian dominated government of whatever rump Ukrostan is left.
