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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #27

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    Post  GarryB Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:47 am

    Humiliating in the sense that there's territory won at hard cost being handed over and civilians left to their fate, plus the now usual bragging from the histerical pro-Kiev crowd.

    The core of the real problem is that much of the pro Kiev crowd don't really understand the horse they have backed in this race, they would dress anything up as a victory for the nazis because they have an idea of what their position might actually be for real.

    Honestly tell me do you think some pro orc nutter comes here and boasts that his nazi forces are crushing all before them and that Russia is doomed and you better surrender unconditionally and fire Putin et al, or it will be worse for you... are you going to be agreeing with him, or are you going to point out that their big push is something they have been working towards and preparing for this whole conflict and the actual effect was in many places it was stopped dead in its tracks, while a few places across the front they managed to push a few under resourced massively outnumbered Russian units back a little while suffering horrendous losses and now they are going to start murdering civilans.

    If you feel offended at my treatment then perhaps a little more respect for the Russian military is in order... there are claims there are idiots in charge in some places, but most of it is heresay and if you wait a couple of hours or a day or so you get a contradiction coming out with a different view... with 80% of messages on social media being bots and probably 99% of those bots being western bots I would not take the word of anyone.... they often repeat each others posts so one fake message or lie can be propagated from multiple sources so you might think that is true and verified but you have to check your sources.... and Reuters and BBC and CNN and Washington Post and any British newspapers don't qualify.

    We are doomsayers and fanboys... both have faith but the so called critical doomsayers have faith that everything wrong is true and there is an abundance of that coming from the enemy.

    If you want to complain that I never believe anything negative till properly confirmed then I would reply that is better than western propaganda who just drop stories when it turns out they are not as negative against Russia as western propaganda painted them out to be.

    Russian massacres of civilians is big news... when it turns out it happened after the Russians left the investigation stops and most westerners continue to think the Russians did it.

    Chasing the new stories... the uncomfirmed western propaganda stories is hard work and for the doomsayers I would suggest you stop following so closely... it is not doing you any good and your lack of faith in Russia and Putin means you are going to end up wrecks in the years this conflict might take.

    Worrying is actually the moment when these people face the reality of their actions.

    Western politicians will try to blame Putin and Russia for everything... it was Russia that made the EU cut off cheap gas supplies etc etc...

    When was the last time a western politician was held accountable?

    Even Johnson stayed in office years after he should have stepped down.

    The Ukraine is the Biden family business... lots of money there... the people will see none of that...

    In the meantime, mend the mistakes and keep bullfighting with the dark forces.

    They need to evaluate who did what and why and determine if any actual mistakes were made or not... the current operation follows the plan and goal of the intervention... kill orcs, minimise your own losses... don't get surrounded.

    Now they have referendums and are processing these regions to become Russian territory they will need to change tactics in terms of the territory they give up, which is why Putin mobilised troops ready for a new phase of the conflict...

    This is no Dunkirk and the British consider it a great victory rather than a retreat and humiliation... they lost most of their equipment but I would say most of their armour was not the most amazing new technology anyway. They kept a lot of trained soldiers ...

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    Post  Tolstoy Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:49 am

    Russian withdrawal is part of the plan. This is a tactical move. Ukros have been hoodwinked by the U.S into believing that they can hold onto territory from which the Russian forces have withdrawn throughout the winter.

    But then Ukros prefer a meat grinder.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:03 am

    billybatts91 wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:Mercouris predicts the advance of the Russian army in the direction of the city of Zaporozhye or to the south - Nikolaev and Odessa.
    Even the Great Doomsdayer No. 1, the General Field Marshal and High Lord of the Armed Forces of Donbass Strelkov thinks that Krasny Liman is not important. But some dudes here are running havoc.  Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Wow, you're so cool man.....such a cool optimist and are giving us "doomsdayers" the business huh? Nothing is important I guess. Whenever the Russians lose ground, meh, it wasn't important anyways. What a great attitude you have.

    Meanwhile in Lyman.........

    Haven't watched them but such videos can be from anywhere at any time

    You know, as they've timed and co-ordinated the release of such videos prior

    From what I've understood Russian forces retreated in good order, they weren't overrun

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:16 am

    Serberus wrote:
    Backman wrote:

    Any idea why it happens ? Troop levels written in stone or whag

    I have no real idea tbh, but I am finding it hard to accept that the considerable losses in territory , equipment and manpower recently are a part of some bait and counterattack strategy as some believe here.

    But IMO
    Best case, we are preparing for a huge offensive on multiple fronts and were temporarily caught out by the Nazi offensive, which if they are able to reverse soon , wont sting as hard, but seeing videos of the Nazis gleefully showing our casualties and abusing POW’s left behind, still leaves a bad taste regardless of what happens going forward.

    But they don't show their own casualties do they?
    Or all their lost equipment.
    Or is your impression that that they've suffered anything less than 5 fold what the Russians have?

    You and others like you are far too easy to manipulate with audio and visual cues. You're going to have to grow an immunity to such smoke & mirror propaganda if you want to keep following the war. Otherwise you'll go nuts
    Because the Ukrainian leadership is full of showmen, they have a bunch of American PR firms and advisers on their payroll, they have all of NATO's psyops expertise at their command.
    They know what they're doing when it comes to illusions and demoralization.

    I do agree that Russia is not paying enough attention to this stuff and at this point its harming the war effort. But only because people like you fall for it in the first place.
    The common view in Russia is already that the whole war is a meat-grinder and this naturally effects the mobilization effort.


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    Post  JohninMK Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:26 am

    auslander wrote:

    All this screaming and pontificating about who should do what in the war, give it a rest. You are wasting your time and any of us who have served and fought laugh at you. Y'all haven't a clue as to what it's really like.

    Auslander

    Posts don't come more sobering than yours. God bless you both.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:28 am

    Backman wrote:
    @GarryB
    They were getting pushed back by numerically smaller forces with better mobility and fire power.

    Now they have amassed a much larger force they can push back in specific places... but not places that are important... I am sure Kiev would rather take the NPP plant the Russians occupy and I am sure they want to cut off water to the Crimea as well... but instead they encircle a small group of Russian forces in Liman who after weeks of fighting are forced to withdraw just as they are about to be encircled

    Why not just send some reinforcements (fresh from Russia, not allocated to the "smo")to the Liman instead of giving up territory in the Donbas ? The fact that these Rosqvardia held out for so long just shows that they only needed a little bit help to prevent it.

    People say that Russia could be attacked in the far east and so on ,so all the professional troops needs to stay in their place. Who decides that ? Why not have a skeleton crew at the border with China so that you have lots of spare reserves in the west where you know....the existencial war is taking place ? Take 30,000 from the Vostok exercises and fly them to the SMO zone.

    If Russia had reinforced Krasnyj Liman the Ukrainians might have done something smart such as break off their attack and attempt to advance somewhere else. Or switch to the defense altogether, which would be a disaster if it happens before that fresh NATO trained force has been expended and broken

    Well that's my view of things. As I said earlier, I don't know if Krasnyj Liman is the precursor to some sort of trap, a direct offensive, or if the Russians are content for the Ukrainians to just keep coming and assaulting more fortified zones.
    But I do distinctly remember the chatter and articles on various Telegram channels and even here pointing out that it would be better for the Ukrainians to come to our positions than we to theirs. This was shortly before and around the time of the Ukrainian Kherson offensive.
    What happened to all those commentators now? Lost their nerve? It is in fact their plan in action. Ukrainian forces have been advancing for a month, incurring huge casualties, and Russian command is probably hoping they'll keep coming, not stop to consolidate whatever gains.

    From this angle, I do understand the relaxed attitude of Russian command to the assault on Krasnyj Liman, that Kadyrov was complaining about.

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    Post  auslander Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:34 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    auslander wrote:All this screaming and pontificating about who should do what in the war, give it a rest. You are wasting your time and any of us who have served and fought laugh at you. Y'all haven't a clue as to what it's really like.
    Auslander
    Posts don't come more sobering than yours. God bless you both.

    Thank you, John. We will never forget them, but life goes on. It took a long time for my wife's tears to subside but she's a tough lady and she knows these deaths were not the only ones we will have to deal with. Sad but true.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:44 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    limb wrote:Do you think the reason russia hasn't launched a multiple echeloned offensive since march is because the russian command knows any large grouping of troops will be detected by US satellites, eliminating  any element of surprise?

    Russian satellites can detect any Ukrainian offensive by the same markers.

    Yet you and others are postulating here that Russia has been taken completely by surprise in Kransyj Liman as earlier in Kharkov.
    Which is it then?

    Fact is though there are ways of deceiving the enemy, satellites or no satelittes, and making them believe the attack is going to happen in one place while it actually happens in another.
    Neither Krasnyj Liman nor eastern Kharkov are examples of such though; they were very obvious and well-publicized targets

    Fact is your comment is BS has videos of SOLDIERS on the GROUND said they got taken by surprise. Various officers etc calling this out.

    So do you fanboys know better than the guys on the ground?

    It amazes me fanboys will continue to defend this fuckup, at this point it just shows how delusional they choose to be.

    Seig, believe me - if we here all knew that Krasnyj Liman was the Ukro's main target for the last 3 weeks at least, then Russian command knew that as well. And earlier than any of us

    As for guys on the ground, they're on OPSEC, so it always makes me suspicious of the men that do give interviews and reports and so on.

    But let's take such at face value.
    SOLDIERS on the GROUND, as you put it, getting taken by surprise with some assault on their position, or enemy dressed in Russian uniforms - is a tactical failing, likely of that specific unit and/or its commander. Because all such soldiers on the front live in an information vacuum, they only know what they're told by their commanders or what they see themselves. They're not on Telegram and they're certainly not on this forum.

    It's an entirely different thing though to be taken by surprise strategically. As in for the battalion and above level commanders to not know that their section of the front is a priority target for the enemy, and that they are at present being attacked. Or for the General Staff in Russia to not know where the enemy is advancing and where he isn't, and which sections of the front need reinforcement, which lower-level commanders are reporting what.
    And when it comes to sending reinforcements - this upper level of the war is the only one that's relevant. What some grunt on the ground reports about a platoon-size assault on his position, whether he and his squad mates were taken by surprise or not - is entirely superfluous.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:54 am

    zorobabel wrote:Upper-mid level officers (lt. generals and up) are now sniping each other on Telegram, but no worries, bro. Everything is under control. Everything is going according to plan.

    Active-duty Lt. Generals and up involved in the operation?

    I sincerely doubt they would have the time.
    It would also be a major breach of discipline and regulations
    It would also be viewed as aiding the enemy

    In short, it's not happening

    As for this or that retired officer laid off in 2010 by Serdyukov's reforms - who actually cares?

    It's not an indication of anything other than information vacuum and the MoD not paying enough attention to the Home Front and wartime propaganda. It's whipped some people up into a panic and incited others to try and promote themselves on the back of it.

    I'm quite confident everything is under control, and that the Russian military is not this crumbling clumsy dinosaur that you've all persuaded yourselves into thinking.
    Not to say it and its officers don't make mistakes or oversights or fk-ups - because that's a feature of every military under the sun.

    But simply because all such mistakes and oversights and fk-ups so far have been identified and fixed very quickly.
    Whether we're talking about the first 3 days of the war when Russian ground forces had too stringent rules of engagement, or were advancing too quickly and getting into traps, or the Turkish drones that were getting cheap shots in at them, or the HIMARS missiles that were striking the ammo depots uncontested for a while.
    All those things were countered and we haven't heard any more reports of such. Some of them were countered and fixed within days.

    So I do find it a little unbelievable that there is some major organizational mess, fk-up or treason (and soldiers have been singing treason and being sold since the French mutiny in 1917 I'd like to point out, despite no such thing ever having been shown to have had any evidence for it) - that has been going on so long that it has resulted in the loss of eastern Kharkov and now Krasnyj Liman; a month's worth of no reinforcements, no communication, no supplies and Rosgvardia troops being left on their own.
    No. Far more likely that the light defense in these parts and their lack of reinforcement has been entirely intentional. That along with all the artillery and air attacks of opportunity made against advancing Ukrainian troops throughout this whole time made while said troops have been busy fighting against lightly-equipped and mobile screening forces of the Rosgvardia and some DNR auxillaries.


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    Post  LMFS Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:01 pm

    Old but gold, in order to understand the brotherly feelings of Western ukraine for Russia

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:16 pm

    auslander wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    auslander wrote:All this screaming and pontificating about who should do what in the war, give it a rest. You are wasting your time and any of us who have served and fought laugh at you. Y'all haven't a clue as to what it's really like.
    Auslander
    Posts don't come more sobering than yours. God bless you both.

    Thank you, John. We will never forget them, but life goes on. It took a long time for my wife's tears to subside but she's a tough lady and she knows these deaths were not the only ones we will have to deal with. Sad but true.

    On a side issue, isn't it about time you put one of your collies back as your avatar, with a nice Z ribbon?

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    Post  LMFS Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:19 pm

    Great posting by Eva Bartlett re. Craig Murray's (really?) underwhelming claim that the referenda were a sham:

    Reality Theories, Eva K Bartlett
    Most of the fence-sitter, virtue-signalling types are so far removed from what it looks like on the ground where wars are being waged w the funding & political support of their governments.

    Zero respect for those downplaying Ukraine's war on the Donbass.
    https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1576245986136977408


    Nina 🐙 Byzantina @NinaByzantina Replying to @CraigMurrayOrg

    Easy to have a blanket "anti-war" position when it's not YOUR people being bombed for 8 years with their language and culture being taken away.
    https://twitter.com/NinaByzantina/status/1575493351289200640

    If you’re more concerned about what narrative managers think than what is actually the truth, then well there’s your answer. This isn’t a both sides issue. There’s a right or wrong here because one is a NATO talking point still endorsing this idea anyone but the West is to blame.
    https://twitter.com/FiorellaIsabelM/status/1576247883942068224

    What is Russia doing? Defending their people from slaughter from western backed & funded fascists. Kind of takes a precedence over generalized virtue signaling.
    https://twitter.com/FiorellaIsabelM/status/1576248083591364609

    Worth remembering Putin demanded autonomy not partition. What alternative is there with a corrupt regime that reneged on Minsk and bombs its own people for 8 years with full western support (whose interests don't include Ukraine's welfare).
    Come out of the forest and look again
    https://twitter.com/Syricide/status/1575789959285395456


    Still pretending this is Russia’s invasion manufactures consent for US hegemony. Putin laid it out honestly, the west has been targeting Russia forever, especially since the fall of the USSR. This is not about Ukraine, Ukraine is the excuse, this is about crushing Russia.
    https://twitter.com/FiorellaIsabelM/status/1576219389472694272

    Every single one of the 133 international observers reported that the referendum was fair and no violations reported. We covered all Donbass territories & many refugee areas in Russia. Murray in Scotland knows better
    https://twitter.com/VanessaBeeley/status/1576088545311137793

    But this wasn’t Russia’s invasion. People asked Putin for help for 8 yrs after 14,000 ethnic Russians were murdered in the Donbass. This isn’t the same as the US “invading” Afghanistan for resource extraction & political exploitation. If Russia didn’t react they’d cease to exist.
    https://twitter.com/FiorellaIsabelM/status/1576218549194199041

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    Post  LMFS Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:23 pm

    Great quote that applies to Western and ukie leadership alike:

    Vanessa Beeley
    "Tyranny relies on the mediocre, the incompetent, the shallow, the narcissistic, the internally dead or the ethically barren for its implementation.

    None of those features are conducive to charisma, persuasiveness or likeability.

    That's why such people rely on tyranny to advance and sustain them.

    It is a truly horrendous symbiosis."

    Ian Jenkins

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    Post  LMFS Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:27 pm

    Martyanov and the FUD shitshow we have going on pretty much everywhere, including this board:

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    Post  LMFS Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:33 pm

    Geroman
    Forwarded from Scott Ritter Live Streams
    The total amount of Western military assistance to Ukraine has reached $85 billion, or 7% of the total budget of all NATO members. This makes Ukraine Number 3 this year in terms of military budget.

    Intel Republic
    ⚡BREAKING NEWS⚡

    Russian Constitutional Court approves a documents package on the admission of Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republic, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions to Russia.

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    Post  Hole Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:58 pm

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    Post  franco Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:01 pm

    The new commander of the Western Military District

    According to unofficial information, Lieutenant-General Roman Berdnikov was appointed as the new commander of the Western Military District. Previously, Berdnikov commanded the 29th Combined Arms Army of the Eastern Military District. In his youth he graduated from the Kyiv Suvorov School.

    https://twitter.com/Sprinter99880/status/1576515524967604225

    NOTE: this source is generally reliable however the 29th is the smallest Combined Arms Army out there so need to wait for official confirmation as always

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:04 pm

    TASS

    The results of the mass response of the fighters of Ukroshitstan to go to the eternal hunting grounds.





    * Russian troops destroyed 43 tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in a day in the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog direction

    Russian troops destroyed 43 tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and more than 400 Ukrainian servicemen in a day in the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog direction - the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

    The official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov, said that 43 Ukrainian tanks and 89 units of other military equipment were also destroyed.
    "In just a day of active hostilities in the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog direction, Russian troops destroyed 43 Ukrainian tanks, 89 units of other military equipment and over 400 Ukrainian servicemen," he said.





    * RF Armed Forces thwarted the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Nikolaev, Andreev, Krivoy Rog directions

    The official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov, said that 31 tanks, 78 units of special equipment and more than 240 Ukrainian servicemen were destroyed.
    The Kiev regime attempted to attack simultaneously on the Nikolaev, Andreev and Krivoy Rog tactical directions, as a result of stubborn defense and fire strikes by Russian troops, the enemy’s offensive was thwarted. This was stated on Sunday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
    "In the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog direction, the Kiev regime attempted to attack simultaneously in the Nikolaev, Andreev and Krivoy Rog tactical directions. The most active offensive operations with up to six battalions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including two tank ones, were carried out in the direction of the settlement of Davydov Brod.
    At the same time, two reinforced battalion tactical groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine launched an attack on the positions of Russian troops in the areas of the settlements of Bruskinskoye and Kostromka. As a result of stubborn defense and massive fire strikes by Russian troops, the enemy offensive in this area was thwarted," he said.
    According to Konashenkov, 31 tanks, 78 units of special equipment and more than 240 Ukrainian servicemen were destroyed as a result.






    * Russian Defense Ministry: losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Krasnolimansk direction amounted to more than 200 military

    Losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine due to the strikes of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the Krasnolimansk direction amounted to more than 200 military, 320 were injured - RF Ministry of Defense.
    The losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) due to the strikes of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the Krasnolymansk direction exceeded 200 military, 320 were injured. This was announced to journalists on Sunday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
    "In the Krasnolimansky direction, as a result of air strikes by the Russian Aerospace Forces in the area of ​​​​the settlement of Yampolovka of the Donetsk People's Republic, the losses of the enemy amounted to more than 200 military personnel, 320 wounded, 10 tanks and 25 infantry fighting vehicles were destroyed," Konashenkov said.






    * More than 35 employees were killed as a result of the airborne strike on the building of the SBU in Dnepropetrovsk

    As a result of the strike of the VKS on September 29 on the building of the SBU in Dnepropetrovsk, according to updated data, more than 35 employees were destroyed - Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
    "According to updated data, as a result of a high-precision missile attack by the Russian Aerospace Forces on September 29 this year on the building of the Security Service of Ukraine in the city of Dnepropetrovsk, more than 35 SBU employees, including foreign advisers, were killed. About 40 SBU employees are listed as missing," - Konashenkov said.





    * Russian Armed Forces destroyed more than 100 Ukrainian soldiers in the Kharkov region

    Russian Armed Forces in the Kupyansk direction destroyed more than 100 Ukrainian soldiers in the Kharkov region - Russian Defense Ministry.
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine lost more than 100 soldiers as a result of strikes by the Russian Armed Forces in the Kharkov region. This was announced to journalists on Sunday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov. "More than 100 Ukrainian servicemen and 12 units of military equipment were destroyed by rocket attacks on the areas of concentration of the 92nd and 14th mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kupyansk direction near the settlements of Sinkovka and Petropavlovka, Kharkov region," Konashenkov said.




    * Russian Armed Forces hit the training base of the National Guard of Ukraine in Zaporozhye

    The official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov, said that operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery in a day defeated 51 artillery units in firing positions, as well as manpower and military equipment in 178 districts.
    "The command and observation post of the battalion of the 46th airmobile brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near the village of Belaya Krinitsa, Kherson region, the points of temporary deployment of the 128th mountain assault brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near the village of Arkhangelskoye, Kherson region, and the 14th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in areas populated points Dvurechnaya and Kutkovka in the Kharkov region, as well as the training base of the 9th regiment of the National Guard of Ukraine in Zaporozhye," Konashenkov said.





    * Russian Armed Forces destroyed seven warehouses of rocket and artillery weapons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    The official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov, said that in the area of the settlement of Novaya Kaluga, Kherson Region, the radar guidance of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system was destroyed
    "Seven depots of rocket and artillery weapons and ammunition were destroyed in the areas of the settlements of Sadovod in the Kharkiv region, Kalinovka in the Nikolaev region, Zaliznichnoye, Rivnopolye and General in the Zaporozhye region, Kramatorsk and Volnoye Pole in the Donetsk People's Republic. In the area of ​​the settlement of Novaya Kaluga in the Kherson region, an anti-aircraft guidance radar was destroyed missile system S-300," Konashenkov said.





    * Basurin said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine lost up to 50 people in battles with the forces of the DPR in a day

    Losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in battles with units of the DPR, supported by the Russian army, amounted to 50 people over the past day. This was announced on Sunday by the deputy head of the People's Militia Department of the DPR, Eduard Basurin.
    "The joint actions of the military personnel of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation destroyed the following enemy weapons and military equipment: four artillery installations, two unmanned aerial vehicles, eight units of armored and automotive equipment. The enemy lost up to 50 personnel," he was quoted as saying. in the Telegram channel, the press service of the defense department of the republic.
    Basurin added that sappers continue to search for and eliminate anti-personnel mines PFM-1 "Lepestok", which Ukrainian troops dropped on the settlements of the republic.





    * The Russian Ministry of Defense announced that the Russian air defense destroyed 22 MLRS HIMARS shells of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
    Russian air defense systems shot down eight Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), destroyed 22 HIMARS multiple rocket launchers, and one Tochka-U ballistic missile in a day. Such data was cited on Sunday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
    "In a day, air defense systems shot down eight Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles in the areas of the settlements of Olginka, Novopetrikovka, Kyrilovka of the Donetsk People's Republic, Sadok, Borozenskoe, Staritsa, Shevchenkovka and Osokorovka of the Kherson region. Near the settlements of Novaya Kakhovka, Berislav, Vesele and Brilevka, Kherson region, 22 shells of the American HIMARS multiple launch rocket system were destroyed in the air. In addition, a ballistic missile "Tochka-U" was shot down over the settlement of Brilevka, Kherson region," the lieutenant general said.

    According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, since the beginning of the special military operation, 310 aircraft, 155 helicopters, 2,134 unmanned aerial vehicles, 378 anti-aircraft missile systems, 5,281 tanks, 858 combat vehicles of multiple launch rocket systems, 3,443 field artillery pieces and mortars have been destroyed. as well as 6,126 units of special military vehicles.








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    Post  franco Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:07 pm

    LMFS wrote:Geroman
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    The total amount of Western military assistance to Ukraine has reached $85 billion, or 7% of the total budget of all NATO members. This makes Ukraine Number 3 this year in terms of military budget.

    Intel Republic
    ⚡BREAKING NEWS⚡

    Russian Constitutional Court approves a documents package on the admission of Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republic, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions to Russia.

    The above is not completely accurate. No Average for each billion $ seems to be give Ukraine $100 million worth of old stuff from stock and then give the MIC $800,000,000 to replace it. The other $100 million goes for transfer and administrative costs Very Happy

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    Post  kvs Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:21 pm

    The small contingent in Liman holding off over 10,000 Kiev regime troops for several weeks demonstrates that they had support. No
    way such a small force would be able to hold off such a human wave. They would have been eliminated and would not have retreated.
    Clearly it was a Russian trap for Kiev's forces. Because the Kiev regime is a collection of stooges engaging in perception management
    we have them walking into such traps over and over.

    The 6th column infesting this thread is a natural fit for the Kiev regime. The only thing that matters is shallow optics and not actual
    military planning and execution.

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    Post  Serberus Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:50 pm

    Our guys entrenching themselves around Kremennaya as the next line of defence, hopefully this time around more reserves are brought in and the Nazis are stopped and pushed back.
    https://t.me/sashakots/36157


    Lieutenant General Roman Berdnikov (baldie), new commander of the western military district. Alexander Zhuravlev (cap) removed from the post.
    Also rumours of a new commander that will be put in charge of the entire SMO
    https://t.me/ghostnewsx/709

    Wonder why he got removed if all was a planned trap?


    Most of Kherson front appears to still be deathtrap for the Wehrmacht
    https://t.me/ghostnewsx/707

    They did however make a breakthrough in one area and captured a village called Zolotaya Balka, reported by both sides. Apparently no Russian reserves in this area so could get worse.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Oct 02, 2022 2:05 pm

    "Platforms" means flatbed rail wagons.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sun Oct 02, 2022 2:33 pm

    October 2, 13:56
    TASS

    The armed forces of new subjects are proposed to be included in the RF Armed Forces

    MOSCOW, 2 October. /TASS/. The draft federal constitutional laws on the entry of the Donetsk and LuGansk People's Republics, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions into the Russian Federation contain provisions on the inclusion of the armed forces of new Russian subjects in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. This was announced on Sunday by the press service of the State Duma Committee on State Construction and Legislation.

    "In the new subjects, where by now their armed forces, military formations and specialized bodies have been formed, it is proposed to include them in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, other troops, military formations and bodies," the report says.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/15933615

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