Russian special military operation in Ukraine #27

Hole wrote:

Backman wrote:From now on hopefully Kadyrov will be taken seriously by Garisimov. The blog autists have the ear of Kadyrov. Kadyrov has the ear of Garisimov. Hopefully Garisimov learned something. The next time Kadyrov is concerned about something , f*cking listen and take on the situation with both hands !

Kadyrov is a batallion commander at best. He only knows to assamble a few thousand guys and storm a city head-on. He would do this with every city in the fake state and loose 50.000 men with that approach. For him they would be all martyrs going to the heavens. But this is not how you run a operation of this size.

Ok, you attack Kadyrov, do you have any harsh words for the Russian generals fucking this war up? Or are you gonna keep defending incompetence and failure from them and claim it's all 4D chess and they're "smart withdrawals" every time they lose territory? You only got smoke for the muslim guy who's talking sense?

Stealthflanker wrote:So now, will Putin and whoever around him will finally realize what happened and do steps like what Lincoln did during US civil wars ? Firing generals until finally someone with brain shows up ?

Really?
The current aim of the operation is to lure as many Nazis out of the bigger cities and the fortified areas in the Donetsk Republic as possible. And kill as many of them as possible.

In Nikolaev/Kherson the terrain makes it possible to kill them form greater distance and such makes it possible not to maneuver (retreat, regroup) so much. The terrain in the North-East is trickier so maneuvering is more important.

billybatts91 wrote:Ukraine now attacking Crimea

https://twitter.com/WarfareReports/status/1576226108118179843

https://twitter.com/WarfareReports/status/1576227056190337027

It was a plane crash.

Hole wrote:

Backman wrote:From now on hopefully Kadyrov will be taken seriously by Garisimov. The blog autists have the ear of Kadyrov. Kadyrov has the ear of Garisimov. Hopefully Garisimov learned something. The next time Kadyrov is concerned about something , f*cking listen and take on the situation with both hands !

Kadyrov is a batallion commander at best. He only knows to assamble a few thousand guys and storm a city head-on. He would do this with every city in the fake state and loose 50.000 men with that approach. For him they would be all martyrs going to the heavens. But this is not how you run a operation of this size.

Hello, Lapin. Hows the weather in lugansk?

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

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Fanboys being fanboys

Let'seks because the telegram(literal not application soviet boomers must not use telegram application ) did not arrive

Choose - you have been informed of the situation - but not before you have already lost the entire region - quick you must send the message by horse

None of the above, because I'd have had a healthy number of reserves in that area to mirror any Ukie troop deployments if I was russia. and kill all the enemy units.

How is this a failure of just one general then ? It's a failure further up the chain too. There should have been an entire army in reserve to mirror the Ukraine troops right from the start.

It is really saddening. To be living in the belly of this criminal terrorist Anglo axis regime. And to see the Russians making it so easy propaganda wise for them. This f*cking criminal terrorist propaganda was being starved of air through the the middle of summer. Now it is worse than its ever been in history.

So Kadyrov is now full on blackpilled Strelkov-posting. Literally naming the culprits responsible.

I don't blame him. It must feel suffocating in there. Everyone not sky-high on the Kremlin dope can see that this whole 'SMO' is starting to resemble a gigantic clusterfuck - aside from some 5 or 6 shills on this board of course. The whole Soviet era overweighted clownshow needs to be outed in Stalinesque purges, and put in geriatric nursing homes.

He feels, sees and senses something needs to happen ASAP but nothing happens instead.

People should regard his post as a desperate cry for attention/change, because that's what it is.

This man is a true Patriot.

Mizintsev is in the first class of officers Russia has

The man is a brain, very intelligent, very competent individual

This man appeared in Aleppo and took that very quickly

He showed up in the scene and had Akhmat men patrolling in short order

Anything he touches is successful

Then you look at Mariupol, you realize he is aggressive , intelligent and while he can expose men to danger he accomplishes the task with minimal sounds

He outsmarted NATO command in both Aleppo and Mariupol and stormed fortified areas without problem

The other one is Andrey Kartapolov - but sadly he retired, that guy took Palmyra after Syrians lost it the first time

Along with Zhuravlyov there are several competent commanders that should come back and help coordinate this

Arkanghelsk wrote:Mizintsev is in the first class of officers Russia has

The man is a brain, very intelligent, very competent individual

This man appeared in Aleppo and took that very quickly

He showed up in the scene and had Akhmat men patrolling in short order

Anything he touches is successful

Then you look at Mariupol,  you realize he is aggressive , intelligent and while he can expose men to danger he accomplishes the task with minimal sounds

He outsmarted NATO command in both Aleppo and Mariupol and stormed fortified areas without problem

The other one is Andrey Kartapolov - but sadly he retired, that guy took Palmyra after Syrians lost it the first time

Along with Zhuravlyov there are several competent commanders that should come back and help coordinate this

So why isn't Putin or someone responsible for overseeing the SMO appointing these commanders to take care of the operation?

Hole wrote:
Really?
The current aim of the operation is to lure as many Nazis out of the bigger cities and the fortified areas in the Donetsk Republic as possible. And kill as many of them as possible.

In Nikolaev/Kherson the terrain makes it possible to kill them form greater distance and such makes it possible not to maneuver (retreat, regroup) so much. The terrain in the North-East is trickier so maneuvering is more important.

The thing is that how long this kind of "maneuvering warfare" sustainable ?

From what i see, the more land lost means more place for Ukrainian artilleries and fortifications. More "punitive" attack by Ukraine to cities in integrated territory. That can create civil unrest and help pr-ukrainian inside those territory to spread more discontent. and those who wants to integrate to Russia in Odessa and Nikolaev may lost hope. People will definitely asking question why the defense is getting closer to where they stay instead pushing farther.

billybatts91 wrote:

Hole wrote:

Backman wrote:From now on hopefully Kadyrov will be taken seriously by Garisimov. The blog autists have the ear of Kadyrov. Kadyrov has the ear of Garisimov. Hopefully Garisimov learned something. The next time Kadyrov is concerned about something , f*cking listen and take on the situation with both hands !

Kadyrov is a batallion commander at best. He only knows to assamble a few thousand guys and storm a city head-on. He would do this with every city in the fake state and loose 50.000 men with that approach. For him they would be all martyrs going to the heavens. But this is not how you run a operation of this size.

Ok, you attack Kadyrov, do you have any harsh words for the Russian generals fucking this war up? Or are you gonna keep defending incompetence and failure from them and claim it's all 4D chess and they're "smart withdrawals" every time they lose territory? You only got smoke for the muslim guy who's talking sense?

The moment the Kremlin/MoD turns on them is the moment he'll start attacking them.

And vice versa if course.

I hope I don't have to draw the obvious conclusions from this myself.

Hole wrote:

Stealthflanker wrote:So now, will Putin and whoever around him will finally realize what happened and do steps like what Lincoln did during US civil wars ? Firing generals until finally someone with brain shows up ?

Really?
The current aim of the operation is to lure as many Nazis out of the bigger cities and the fortified areas in the Donetsk Republic as possible. And kill as many of them as possible.

In Nikolaev/Kherson the terrain makes it possible to kill them form greater distance and such makes it possible not to maneuver (retreat, regroup) so much. The terrain in the North-East is trickier so maneuvering is more important.

I want to laugh... Bring out the Ukronazi to kill a lot of them?

Well, the Russian army doesn't kill many, because the victories so far are ukrainian! What an effective tactic!

Arkanghelsk wrote:Mizintsev is in the first class of officers Russia has

The man is a brain, very intelligent, very competent individual

This man appeared in Aleppo and took that very quickly

He showed up in the scene and had Akhmat men patrolling in short order

Anything he touches is successful

Then you look at Mariupol,  you realize he is aggressive , intelligent and while he can expose men to danger he accomplishes the task with minimal sounds

He outsmarted NATO command in both Aleppo and Mariupol and stormed fortified areas without problem

The other one is Andrey Kartapolov - but sadly he retired, that guy took Palmyra after Syrians lost it the first time

Along with Zhuravlyov there are several competent commanders that should come back and help coordinate this

We need more of him as single Mizintsev may have hard time dealing with internal snags within the armed forces.

Of course not, the cowards can't even defend Lyman properly, nukes are off the table for these weaklings, for sure...Putin wouldn't want to upset the West like that, heaven's noooo!!!

billybatts91 wrote:

Using tactical nukes would end the war quicker though, there is that.

What about using high yield conventional bombs, like FOABs and so on? What’s the reason to have them then if not for this and avoid nuclear escalation?

Extra , 300000 troops takes time to deploy . A 10,000 force will displace a 500 force locally . Priority should be closing Polish border , and other borders of Ukraine , with the  help of Belarusian forces . Launching a marine assault on Odessa to stop  access to sea . Then Nazis are in the net , captured . They may thrash about and make chaotic advances and retreats , while they die . Once they all die , then politically important areas in the centre are liberated . Defeat and destroy the enemy first , then you can divide the spoils .

Regular wrote:

billybatts91 wrote:

Using tactical nukes would end the war quicker though, there is that.

What about using high yield conventional bombs, like FOABs and so on? What’s the reason to have them then if not for this and avoid nuclear escalation?

How about actually having competent command and control and logistics?

I'll be honest im kinda disagree with Kadyrov in use of Nuclear weapon.  It will just bring more problem to Russia. Just let the US be the only one nation ever using it.

Regular wrote:

What about using high yield conventional bombs, like FOABs and so on? What’s the reason to have them then if not for this and avoid nuclear escalation?

and using FOAB risking a slow lumbering bomber flying above enemy territory. and the enemy have wild Buk's and now NASAMS which can ruin anyone's fun. If big boom is needed Iskanders and Kalibrs can.

limb wrote:

How about actually having competent command and control and logistics?

I think logistics were solved, but have no clue about command and control.

I am just saying that going nuclear would be idiotic, especially when Russia has advantage in every field now. As soon as reserves arrive - it should be walk in the park.

Not to belittle anything but this is clearly a temporary setback for the Russians. They've tried valiantly to hold Krasny Liman under difficult circumstances but in the end they had to withdraw to straighten the line so to speak. Sure it is a ***up, but again it is only temporary. Also - Nothing wrong with constructive criticism, but what is becoming more and more apparent as we go along is the number of Nazi trolls coming out of the closet.

Regular wrote:

limb wrote:

How about actually having competent command and control and logistics?

I think logistics were solved, but have no clue about command and control.

I am just saying that going nuclear would be idiotic, especially when Russia has advantage in every field now. As soon as reserves arrive - it should be walk in the park.

Idk, Im really worried about kremennaya and entire northern lugansk being lost.

This is because the rot is at the top, given that gerasimov appointed incompetent generals due to nepotism, putting his basic competency into question.

limb wrote:

Regular wrote:

billybatts91 wrote:

Using tactical nukes would end the war quicker though, there is that.

What about using high yield conventional bombs, like FOABs and so on? What’s the reason to have them then if not for this and avoid nuclear escalation?

How about actually having competent command and control and logistics?

Speaking of command and control, why hasn't the nato/ukr command and control been taken out ? Do it now.

Wasn't this the point of fast tracking the regions membership ? Ever since June , there has been a disconnect. And its hard to know when or if things will get back on track.

Rybar: "It's time to admit that we entered the special military operation with a completely uncombat-ready (with the exception of individual formations) district. And start doing something to fix the situation."

Yep

zorobabel wrote:Rybar: "It's time to admit that we entered the special military operation with a completely uncombat-ready (with the exception of individual formations) district. And start doing something to fix the situation."

Yep

Everyone sane is hitting the panic button...as they should.

zorobabel wrote:Rybar: "It's time to admit that we entered the special military operation with a completely uncombat-ready (with the exception of individual formations) district. And start doing something to fix the situation."

Yep

Rybar is run by sixth columnist closeted nazi trolling chicken shits.

Have they been to military college? Do they think they know better than the Russian military cadres?

In all seriousness, someone on VK stated that Prigozhin has shared/liked Kadyrov's rant. Not sure if true but would be a good development of more influential people with skin in the game start calling out the nepotistic clown show that is currently running the 'SMO' (into the ground).

Prigozhin:

Wagner Boss: “Kadyrov's expressive statement, of course, is not at all in my style. But I can say: "Ramzan, what a guy, killing it!“
All these thugs - with machine guns barefoot to the front.“

Russian general on the debacle in Lyman.