Russian special military operation in Ukraine #27

Broski wrote:

Mir wrote:

PhSt wrote:

Mir wrote:Yes not nice to see but the pullback brings out the rats from their burrows to get slaughtered.

If the Ukro Nazis are getting slaughtered, why are they able to advance and overun Russian territories? Something here doesn't add up..

Perhaps the Russians allow them to do so for exactly that purpose?
There seems to be a lot of losses (men and equipment) on the [F]Ukrs side.

The headless chickens running around this forum don't care about Ukrainian losses, they'd rather Russia sacrifice 1000's of soldiers per week like the Bandera regime does to keep territory for PR victories. These people are pathetic and I no longer entertain their "concern troll" tactics. Russia(USSR), against a much more formidable enemy, gave up entire cities in order to inflict a crushing defeat on its enemy yet pulling back from a few godforsaken villages invokes such panic in these chickenshit armchair generals.

Big_Gazza wrote:IMHO the very fact that Russia is going to adopt the 4 regions into the Federation is clear evidence that the Kremlin and the general staff is fully confident that Russian forces will fully triumph over the Ukrops, reagrdless of its troop levels and NATO support.  Otherwise, if the Ukrops continued to advance into newly-ascended Russian territory then Russia would suffer a crushing political defeat and a loss of face, and the Kremlin isn't about to risk any such thing.

I hate seeing the orcs take any territory, and knowing that they are losing equipment and bleeding out into dirt isn't much of a salve, but its a temporary aberration, and once the Russian army finally takes off the gloves and gets stuck in, these Ukro trash will be simply eradicated.  Once Russian armoured columns are cutting through Ukro territory, peeps are gonna quickly forget the current reversals, and the Twattersphere will be full of wailing hysterical bandera morons crying in despair and disbelief.

A little patience is all that is needed.  All good things come to those who wait...  

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

kvs wrote:The chicken little hysterics have no clue about the resource effort to secure every km of a 1200 km front.   They expect Russia to be exerting
the same effort all along this line.  Instead Russian forces are doing the appropriate thing and controlling relevant territory while waves
of Ukr cannon fodder expend themselves in PR "victories".   The armchair generals make up their own metrics of success and fail Russia
for not meeting them.  

I wonder what kind of fanboy remark you would make if the russians lost Kherson, not that I think they will but it would be funny to see the fanboys try to defend that one

AlfaT8 wrote:I know this isnt a football game, the strategy is clearly comes from the Syrian war, that being said.
Continuosly losing ground, over and over again, is going to bring many to question this one note strategy, as well as the competance of the MoD and the kremlin in general.

Why allow the opponent to continue to recieve commands to do this.

Your enemy is being well drawn in, now decapitate their command and control, blind them,surround them and slaugther them.

When will the order be given i wonder?

flamming_python wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

kvs wrote:The chicken little hysterics have no clue about the resource effort to secure every km of a 1200 km front.   They expect Russia to be exerting
the same effort all along this line.  Instead Russian forces are doing the appropriate thing and controlling relevant territory while waves
of Ukr cannon fodder expend themselves in PR "victories".   The armchair generals make up their own metrics of success and fail Russia
for not meeting them.  

I wonder what kind of fanboy remark you would make if the russians lost Kherson, not that I think they will but it would be funny to see the fanboys try to defend that one

The largest settlement the Ukrainians have recaptured so far is Krasnyj Liman. Pre-war population - 20,000. And just a short advance from the front-line back in September.

Quite a leap to go from that to Kherson, population nearly 300,000 and a regional capital.

Why not suppose the Ukrainians will capture Donetsk, or hell Belgorod next?

flamming_python wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:I know this isnt a football game, the strategy is clearly comes from the Syrian war, that being said.
Continuosly losing ground, over and over again, is going to bring many to question this one note strategy, as well as the competance of the MoD and the kremlin in general.

Why allow the opponent to continue to recieve commands to do this.

Your enemy is being well drawn in, now decapitate their command and control, blind them,surround them and slaugther them.

When will the order be given i wonder?

The Russian counter-advance will begin when the enemy has lost all capacity to advance further themselves. Or they have got to somewhere which Russia does not feel like giving up.
Why interrupt them?
The present strategy of allowing them to come to you and out of their fortifications is working perfectly well to minimize own losses while increasing enemy losses

JohninMK wrote:This is interesting and concerning. It might apply here but I assume in all out war ECM would flood the area rendering it moot.

  Reasons of retreat at Kherson
I know almost all of my units were in contact, the losses were small. The men fought like lions, but this time their fighting luck ran out…

3. The guys on the ground are reporting en masse that our tactical insignia, i.e. "Z" and "V", had been applied to the enemy's equipment, causing confusion in the first hours of combat as the front collapsed.

If this is true, it means that the enemy has an American network-centric battle management system, where all units on the battlefield are grid-linked and marked on computers, even at company level, let alone battalion-regiment level.

Thus, even a company sergeant in a Humvee, BMP or T-64 can see on the screen where his own units are and where the others are, and he doesn't care what marks are on the armor. If this is so it is very bad, as it is a qualitatively new level of troops control.

And our retreat is a consequence of losing the equation.

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