Russian special military operation in Ukraine #27

ALAMO wrote:

Hm.
I have heard once quite an interesting opinion.
American war for independence was carried out while the Brits were starting to reach an apogee of the imperial status and might.
Industrial revolution was already going on, bringing wealth, mass production, and lowering the cost of mobilization&equipment of both army and navy.
On the other side, it brought some instability and social disorders, as the rural population structure was twisted.
That made just a perfect occasion to increase the army ranks, while the cannon fodder was served cold, and the equipment was much less expensive than a decade earlier.
England was humiliated by the oversea defeat, which increased the position of France on the same wave.
How was that possible, that the war was carried careless, without placing much attention to it, and - what is most bizarre - how the empire was not trying to make a second attempt, this time seriously?
Maybe it has a second ground there? Like making an overseas beachhead that can be used for other purposes later? Far away from the European bulldog fights? Objectively safe, with waste resources and landmass to subdue?

Mir wrote:

ALAMO wrote:
Ukro army consists of light forces driving pickups. ISIS-style at its best.
Transport of troops on the battlefield is being carried by civilian buses. Taxis. Ambulances. Bloody school buses
They are advancing in the M113 remembering 70s, hoping not to meet anything on the way.

Well they do have this you know!
A game changer for sure!

JohninMK wrote:The optimist in me sees these advances as Pyrrhic victories.

All these territories the AFU are capturing are soon going to become a trap for them. Once captured, the burden will be on the AFU to supply and defend these territories at all costs.

Unlike the Russians who simply get out of the way, the AFU will probably stand and die. These AFU propaganda victories, gained at high cost.

In a few weeks the RF could be moving back in, encircling the AFU and wiping them out.

EDIT

This is one of the best background explanations I have read on why things are being driven intentionally slowly by the Russians.

"The way I keep looking at the Russia SMO in Ukraine is as part of the bigger civilization war going on and how the timing of activity in Ukraine has to fit in with the financial component of the war.

I see the Russia/China axis as trying to not let empire have its war as cover as its financial system collapses.....timing is important and so keeping the Ukraine game going at a lower level gives time for financial collapse.

I have no doubt that Russia has the ability to secure the regions it is operating in if it wanted to. But a bigger war is going on and the Ukraine SMO is just the most public facing part."

Mir wrote:

ALAMO wrote:
Ukro army consists of light forces driving pickups. ISIS-style at its best.
Transport of troops on the battlefield is being carried by civilian buses. Taxis. Ambulances. Bloody school buses
They are advancing in the M113 remembering 70s, hoping not to meet anything on the way.

Well they do have this you know!
A game changer for sure!

flamming_python wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:I know this isnt a football game, the strategy is clearly comes from the Syrian war, that being said.
Continuosly losing ground, over and over again, is going to bring many to question this one note strategy, as well as the competance of the MoD and the kremlin in general.

Why allow the opponent to continue to recieve commands to do this.

Your enemy is being well drawn in, now decapitate their command and control, blind them,surround them and slaugther them.

When will the order be given i wonder?

The Russian counter-advance will begin when the enemy has lost all capacity to advance further themselves. Or they have got to somewhere which Russia does not feel like giving up.
Why interrupt them?
The present strategy of allowing them to come to you and out of their fortifications is working perfectly well to minimize own losses while increasing enemy losses

Arrow wrote:I wonder what it is? Could Peresvet in action?

https://twitter.com/nft47/status/1577344472702238730?s=20&t=lSZZsKarOnIqlwcXLBQBbA

VARGR198 wrote:

https://twitter.com/DagnyTaggart963/status/1577401137074180096

So seems those lights are to blind spy satelites

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Firebird wrote:



That "car" is even more moronic than the "catapult" the vermin made in "Eurogayden Square" in 2014.  A pathetic subspecies indeed.I used to call them "the Welsh of the USSR". In retrospect, that would be unkind on the Welsh.. : /

VARGR198 wrote:

https://twitter.com/DagnyTaggart963/status/1577401137074180096

So seems those lights are to blind spy satelites

flamming_python wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

kvs wrote:The chicken little hysterics have no clue about the resource effort to secure every km of a 1200 km front.   They expect Russia to be exerting
the same effort all along this line.  Instead Russian forces are doing the appropriate thing and controlling relevant territory while waves
of Ukr cannon fodder expend themselves in PR "victories".   The armchair generals make up their own metrics of success and fail Russia
for not meeting them.  

I wonder what kind of fanboy remark you would make if the russians lost Kherson, not that I think they will but it would be funny to see the fanboys try to defend that one

The largest settlement the Ukrainians have recaptured so far is Krasnyj Liman. Pre-war population - 20,000. And just a short advance from the front-line back in September.

Quite a leap to go from that to Kherson, population nearly 300,000 and a regional capital.

Why not suppose the Ukrainians will capture Donetsk, or hell Belgorod next?

Arrow wrote:It looks impressive.