Russian special military operation in Ukraine #27

flamming_python wrote:

sepheronx wrote:Flaming, your giving into stupidity.

If it was a missile, there would be debris of it and proof. We got videos of a massive explosion from a truck.

Fuсk it

Spread some missile debris around, hold them accountable anyway, and use it as a way to motivate the Russian population

I'm more interested to see what the Russians do now.

They bombed the ever living hell out of Ukraines infrastructure recently. For this terrorist move, is a big deal in Russia and it may force governments hand.

There is a massive discontent for the Kremlin rather quiet attitude and passive moves. Which I would love to be a fly on the wall during these meetings to hear what they are saying.

Ahhh the well awaited influx of sleeper cells was activated. Like on Crimea like on this forum. Single or two digit commenters trying to use ЦИПСО tactics.

Millions of refugees have crossed the border to Russia and even the dumbest Special Agency would use this to infiltrate with some sleeper cells months or even years prior for such an opportunity.

It is rather clear that like in the case of crimean aerodrome sabotage they had help from the inside.

The border to crimea is controlled and the entrance to the crimean bridge has another post for control. Clearly someone involved with guards and maybe even logistics of the train infrastructure/logistics timed it.

The damage is only to sections, which can be repaired within a week if they want.
The crucial part is find the sleeping cell network and smoke them. This of course counts also for this forum. Garry, you need someones help to smoke the western sleeping cells on here causing drama and panic.

Werewolf is right. Ukroshitstans look like Russians and they speak Russian, so it is not easy to prevent them from infiltrating the Russian ranks. The bridge is 18 km long and the destroyed part is 150 to 200 meters long. If according to some this is a "change in the balance of power", as one idiot wrote, then can we expect Ukroshitstan to move in the direction of Rostov, Kursk and Moscow ?
I'm not really sure about that...

We were just out and about. Price controls are still in affect. POL prices haven't budged. Food emporium, VCO reports normal business, no panic buying. Hit the bankomat to get my pension, that worked and the exchange rate is normal. Custom at bankomat was normal, IOW we were the only ones at the machine.

We'll see what the rest of the day brings. At this time, normal life on this island and this village.

ALAMO wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:Werewolf is right. Ukroshitstans look like Russians and they speak Russian, so it is not easy to prevent them from infiltrating the Russian ranks. The bridge is 18 km long and the destroyed part is 150 to 200 meters long. If according to some this is a "change in the balance of power", as one idiot wrote, then can we expect Ukroshitstan to move in the direction of Rostov, Kursk and Moscow ?
I'm not really sure about that...  

Who wrote that shit?        
Now?
When a land connection is secured?      

SUNDOESNTRISE....
However, he edited that post as well as many others in the last hour and a half to two.

Wiki told me that Ukraine decommissioned as part of some disarmament plan...  ~400 Kh-22s.

So does that mean Russia has or had about 1,200 - 1,600 of these things? Who woulda-thunk-it that these were ground mode capable, too, without radar targets? Well, not pro-Western forum experts - I remember such comments from 20 years ago.

Use it or lose it, right?

Looking at the damage on Rail and Road Bridge , then I would say , I am almost sure , there was no missile or Truck bomb . It points to charges being placed . If missile then no evidence of blast damage on Train or Road . No holes anywhere . Structure of Train intact . If Truck bomb , then , should see big and jagged holes in Road and Train being derailed . What we see is a clean cut section of Road , like It was cut by a knife ! An explosive knife . The small , hand placed explosive , was there only to put train on fire . Therefore like the attacks on pipelines ,it was small team of divers . But unlike pipelines , they were discharged from mini - submarines , as boats would be visible . In my mind , I knew , they would try this next . They were waiting to see response . And since no response was going to be given ,to pipeline attack , then they carried this out . The Russians , have only themselves to blame . The enemy is not to blame .

All these silent fans of Ukroshitstan need to know is that the conflict is taking place in that "country" - Ukroshitstan.
And as for the "panic" in Russia, which the fans of Ukroshitstan want to invent, it is pure nonsense. Those who are prone to panic will always panic, while those who are not will be even more ready to strike back - when the time comes.
You fucking Ukroshitstan fans and cunts..

Podlodka77 wrote:
Finally someone with a sensible comment. The bridge is 18 kilometers long and was built in 3 years and 10 months (from start to finish), although the road part of the bridge was put into operation a year earlier.

Funny thing is the bombing could've done actual damage to the Russian buildup timetables if they had just waited until the VBIED is at the arch.
Now that would have taken out a massive section of the bridge that is long enough that existing bridging equipment can't easily span, and more importantly cut-off the Azov Sea from the outside world.
It would take weeks to even clear the debris...
Real sloppy job glowniggers...

Podlodka77 wrote:Werewolf is right. Ukroshitstans look like Russians and they speak Russian, so it is not easy to prevent them from infiltrating the Russian ranks. The bridge is 18 km long and the destroyed part is 150 to 200 meters long. If according to some this is a "change in the balance of power", as one idiot wrote, then can we expect Ukroshitstan to move in the direction of Rostov, Kursk and Moscow ?
I'm not really sure about that...  

The **** you talking about?

Russia is a joke and a shell of the military superpower it was portrayed to be (psy-op) pre February 24. The whole world now knows this , including a majority of the Russians. Take your copium pills because it will only get worse from here on - but then again as Serbian you are probably used to getting your head denter in, with the Balkan tough guy act as some sort of coping mechanism to deal with the generational trauma.

None of your desperate acts of deflection, descrediting, spin and propaganda land anymore - only the exceptionally dumb and paid agitators still claim to buy that sh*t. Get your act together, and put your money where your mouth is. Russia is now accepting foreign recruits - with citizenship rewarded after 12 months.

I don't blame the parish here for checking out of this nonsense. The Kremlin is warm and cozy with beautiful views this time of the year. Doesn't really like they are interested in winning, does it?

lyle6 wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:
Finally someone with a sensible comment. The bridge is 18 kilometers long and was built in 3 years and 10 months (from start to finish), although the road part of the bridge was put into operation a year earlier.

Funny thing is the bombing could've done actual damage to the Russian buildup timetables if they had just waited until the VBIED is at the arch.
Now that would have taken out a massive section of the bridge that is long enough that existing bridging equipment can't easily span, and more importantly cut-off the Azov Sea from the outside world.
It would take weeks to even clear the debris...
Real sloppy job glowniggers...

Imagine that. The last final red line crossed with the Kremlin a priori threatening fire and brimstone ..

.. And the Kremlin trolls immediately start damage controlling the situation by flipping the script and saying that Ukraine f-ed up because they didn't bomb the bridge along the entire 19km. And not a word about the massive L taken by Russia.

Nobody buys the fake bravado anymore. Get out of the echo chamber every now and then. It's time to either step up or shut up.

Actually surprising a car bomb was able to deliver this damage. I mean, the energy can be dispersed in free air and generally moves across the flat tarmac supported with a concrete layer capable withstanding huge (vertical) linear pressure.

When I first looked at all those collapsed pillars I was pretty much convinced it was the result of bombs on the bridge columns or a sea skimming missile. But this explosion really came from the top.

famschopman wrote:Actually surprising a car bomb was able to deliver this damage. I mean, the energy can be dispersed in free air and generally moves across the flat tarmac supported with a concrete layer capable withstanding huge (vertical) linear pressure.

When I first looked at all those collapsed pillars I was pretty much convinced it was the result of bombs on the bridge columns or a sea skimming missile. But this explosion really came from the top.

It was a truck.

lyle6 wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:
Finally someone with a sensible comment. The bridge is 18 kilometers long and was built in 3 years and 10 months (from start to finish), although the road part of the bridge was put into operation a year earlier.

Funny thing is the bombing could've done actual damage to the Russian buildup timetables if they had just waited until the VBIED is at the arch.
Now that would have taken out a massive section of the bridge that is long enough that existing bridging equipment can't easily span, and more importantly cut-off the Azov Sea from the outside world.
It would take weeks to even clear the debris...
Real sloppy job glowniggers...

That struck me too, the site of the damage. It is close to land at the Russian end. Why not out at sea?

I can understand not at the arches as they will be heavily monitored.

Also there must have been two sites on the downed carriageway as two unlinked sections are down. Also, what about the other road, why no similar damage?

lyle6 wrote:

famschopman wrote:Actually surprising a car bomb was able to deliver this damage. I mean, the energy can be dispersed in free air and generally moves across the flat tarmac supported with a concrete layer capable withstanding huge (vertical) linear pressure.

When I first looked at all those collapsed pillars I was pretty much convinced it was the result of bombs on the bridge columns or a sea skimming missile. But this explosion really came from the top.

It was a truck.

Look at the top picture in post 968. How could a truck bomb bring down those two sections so cleanly with no apparent blast damage and another section still standing between them?

There should be some kind of jagged hole where the truck bomb would have exploded.