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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:54 am

    What he is saying is that there are thousands of ukros concentrated in small villages and towns near the border,  so it's not unreasonable to have hundreds of thousands of them

    And if they attack belgorod and seize any territory,  it will be more embarassing than anything we have seen in this war

    Another execution video of Kharkov came out of POW

    Kremlin reaction? More prisoner swaps

    Why are there any Russian POW at all this late in the game?

    Why is Ukraine still treated as a human army , with the same moral and legal treatment , despite the clear presence of nazis and genocidal maniacs?

    Don't give me moral high ground bullshit either

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    Post  Firebird Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:03 am

    He's talking absolute tripe as usual, as anyone with any credibility knows.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:35 am

    Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 22 Nov 2022⚡

    #Crimea:

    ▪ Russian air defence systems shot down two Ukrainian UAVs as they approached the #Balaklava TPP, as well as three more drones over the Black Sea.

    #Belgorod Region:

    ▪ Ukrainian militants shelled the town of #Shebekino and damaged residential buildings. One woman was killed.

    ▪ Enemy militants hit the veterans' hospital in the village of Novaya Tavolzhanka. The shells damaged the facade of the building and the gas pipeline. There were no deaths or injuries.

    ▪ An elderly couple was blown up by ammunition in the village of #Staroselye.

    #Starobelsk Direction:

    ▪ In the #Svatovo sector, assault units of the AFU's 92 Mechanized Brigade attacked Russian positions at #Kuzemovka. Russian troops detected the enemy and launched a preemptive strike, forcing the militants to retreat to their original lines.

    ▪ In #Stelmakhovka, Russian artillery hit the 14th AFU Mechanized Brigade, which was reinforced by foreign mercenaries. Several pieces of equipment were destroyed.

    #Soledar Direction:

    ▪ The situation on the front has not changed significantly. . There are clashes in #Opytnoye and on the southeastern outskirts of #Bakhmut.

    #Donetsk Direction:

    ▪ The Russian motorized rifle units continue to engage in fierce fighting with the enemy in the centre of #Maryinka. Russian missile forces and artillery have struck concentrations of enemy armoured vehicles and personnel on the western outskirts of the town.

    ▪ Ukrainian militants again shelled populated areas of the #Donetsk agglomeration. Residential buildings and civilian infrastructure in #Donetsk, #Makeyevka, #Mineralnoye, #Yasynuvata, #Zaitsevo and #Kashtanovoye were hit.

    #Southdonetsk Direction:

    ▪ AFU units made several counterattack attempts against Russian positions in #Pavlovka. The advancing enemy groups were detected by a UAV crews. Russian artillery struck the militants and they withdrew to their initial positions with losses.

    #Zaporozhye Direction:

    ▪ The AFU command continues to move reserves and armoured vehicles to the line of contact and prepares an offensive along the entire front.

    ▪ Along the line of contact, artillery duels continue as Russian forces hit 65th Mechanized Brigade's concentrations in #Gulyaypole, #Zaliznichnoye and #Orekhov.

    #Kherson Direction on Southern Front (MAP):

    ▪ SBU and national police officers are conducting filtration activities in #Kherson, checking all buildings in the city in search of Russian forces' personnel and pro-Russian citizens.

    ▪ Ukrainian militants of the 9th Composite Battalion of the Territorial Defence struck the village of #Kairy using a copter with a grenade-dropping system.

    ▪ A reconnaissance team from the centre of the 73rd Forces of Special Operations conducted patrols in small boats off the #Dnipro estuary coast.

    ▪ Russian forces hit enemy targets in #Kherson and targeted concentrations of AFU personnel and armoured vehicles in #Muzykovka, #Sadovoye and #Tokarevka.


    https://t.me/sitreports/1132

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:39 am

    Justin Banse
    Justin’s account of the casualties inflicted on his unit corroborates the daily briefings by the Russian Ministry of Defense. Some Western analysts have insisted that the Russians are lying or exaggerating. Based on Justin’s emotional recounting of his experience, it would appear the Russian MOD is understating the casualties inflicted on Ukrainian units.

    I think the war in Ukraine is entering a new phase. Russia has reinforced troops on the front and supplied them with additional fire power. At some point before the end of the year I anticipate that Russia will launch a massive counter offensive. No matter how tenaciously and bravely the Ukrainian troops fight, they are at a disadvantage. They have limited supplies of artillery shells, reduced armor and no air support. While not impossible, it is unlikely that they will be able to stop a full blown Russian attack across a broad front.

    Compounding the dilemma of the Ukrainian troops is the growing difficulty to resupply their front line fighters with ammunition, weapons, food and vehicles. Russia’s strategy of crippling the electrical power grid of Ukraine is working and this, in turn, is making it more difficult to keep open the lines of communication.

    I hope you take the time to watch this video. While it is the story of just one soldier caught in hell, I believe it is representative of what Ukrainian soldiers are experiencing in their battles with Russia.



    https://sonar21.com/ukraines-military-death-throes/

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:52 am

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    Gvozd arrangement for Pantsir

    Containerized minitiature missiles capable to defeat drone swarms , MLRS, and other saturation type weapons

    This is the future of air defense

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:57 am

    The fact that Russians understate the 404 losses is undisputed for a very long time.
    I guess that they have tried to scale down the tensions first of all, in the beginning.
    Each day is bringing dozens of new materials covering that. It is hardly possible to find any republican/Russian made documentation that would not include stocks of dead bodies of Ukrowehrmacht. Back in June (!!) republican cleansing units, made specially to find out bodies, record them somehow and bury them had accounted for more than 3000 (three thousand) unrecognizable KIA the Ukrs are reporting as "missing" to avoid the allocations for the families. That was half a year ago, and hundreds more of strongpoints and tranches have been obliterated since then. We talk multiple thousand corpses only left for rotting by the Ukrs.

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    Post  Hole Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:15 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #33 - Page 9 Fipty910
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    Explosions in Odessa, Kherson, Krivoy Rog and Nikolaev are reported.

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    Post  Hole Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:24 pm

    Approximate time of Russian special military operation in Ukraine #33 - Page 9 1f680arrivals:


    Berdychiv: 13:30 - 15:00
    Kyiv: 13:27 - 14:55
    Lviv: 13:55 - 15:30
    Khmelnytskyi: 13:40 - 15:10
    Odessa: 13:20 - 14:55
    Dnepropetrovsk: 13:10 - 14:30
    Kryvyi Roh: 13:10 - 14:30
    Zhytomyr: 13:35 - 15:05
    Mykolaiv: 13:15 - 14:35
    Zaporozhye: 13:10 - 14:30

    Tu-95MS in the air, also reports of 2 Su-35´s attacking Ochakov. Reportedly 14 cruise missiles launched by now.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:31 pm

    Russkie are in the very center of Marianka.
    A basement of a local school was evacuated of the people who were held hostage there for 9 months (!!). Including small children.
    A school building is located right there in the center.

    Edit : and by the way, seems it is Monday again.
    Multiple explosions all over 404, fleet and aviation is working, looks like two dozens of missiles in the air and counting.

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:02 pm

    Tu-95MS in the air, also reports of 2 Su-35´s attacking Ochakov. Reportedly 14 cruise missiles launched by now.

    Can we conclude from this report that the Russkies have decided to go after that naval centre in Ochakov after all, the one which masterminded the sea drone attack on the Sevastopol naval base?

    Of course they didn't go after it immediately in retaliation. They gave some time for things to calm down first and a false sense of security to develop, that the Russkies don't know where exactly they are.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:05 pm

    If I remember correctly, they have took out the Brits compound in Ochakov the same day or a day after the drone thing.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:12 pm

    14 Cruise missiles Hole? All 400 have been shot down and only 5 reached their targets and catastrophic damage was only inflicted on 15 different sites 20 to 50 miles apart. Wonderwaffles are invincible!!!!

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:22 pm

    Rubber missiles of the Russkie arsenal are an answer.
    This is how they resolve the lack of washing machines to rip of the chips from.

    Edit : and watching the records, nothing changed. Missiles are being released in single pieces against targets, which makes it quite clear how the Russkie are afraid of the Ukro invincible western defense shield. And you must admit that the strategy is quite interesting either. Sure they can release all that missiles a single day, but that looks like a death by a thousand-cuts approach.
    The Chinese will approve that.
    Like thet are letting the Ukrs to make some repairs, bring the supply back for a few hours or a day, and ... kabooom again. and again. and again.
    Multiple smoke, dust and fireballs in Kiev, Dnepro, Charkov, Vinnitsa. All over the 404.
    I'm telling ya', it's Monday again!

    Edit 2 : holly shit, it seems to be the most devastating strike since the beginning Shocked Kiev is fully off grid. Internet is dead either. Some missiles hit the residential areas, so we have an Ukro AD working at it's best. Expect the "evil Russkie murderers" in 3..2..1..
    Looks like the Russkies finally decided to strike at the NPP infrastructure. They obviously won't hit the NPPs, but the grid, connectors and other assisting infrastructure is another animal. Yuzhnoukrainska NPP with emergency shutdown, half of big cities with zero power at all, and counting...
    Yes, it is Monday!

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    Post  franco Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:09 pm

    @limb "in artemovsk, there are 3 ukrainian brigades 8000 troops each plus 1 territorial defence brigade. So up to 32000 troops for a tiny area. Ugledar has up to 16000 troops. Gulyaipole has 50000.Belarussian border has 30000 troops. Chernigov Sumy has 40000. So 700000-1 million troops isnt far from the truth."

    So where in God's green earth did an Ukrainian brigade get 8,000 men per dunno confused You must be a Ukrainian and like to double or treble down your numbers. A brigade at full strength is just over 4,000 men and most brigades are reported by the Ukrainians themselves to be operating at just above 50%...show some credibility man angry affraid

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    Post  GarryB Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:31 pm

    Ukraine still has the strength for any offensive? With such huge losses in people and equipment?

    No, but do you think they are rational?

    This is a common feature of all Iranian products: to endow older models with the ability to use high-precision weaponry, which multiplies the combat effectiveness of the unit and which our products sorely lack. Looking at the participation of aviation in the air defense system, one gets the feeling that Russian military thought has followed the opposite principle: they hang unguided bombs and missiles on the newest planes and helicopters, significantly reducing combat effectiveness and increasing the risk of losing planes and pilots.

    Hellfires are enormously expensive... putting hellfires on old Soviet vehicles would just make old Soviet equipment horrendously expensive to actually use.

    Claiming aircraft like the Su-34 and Su-24 using Gefest & T precision aiming equipment to get LGB levels of accuracy with cheap dumb ordinance is dumbing down the Russian military is treasonous... if cheap dumb bombs precision delivered can do the job that is a good thing.

    For CAS unguided rockets and bombs have no substitute because most of the time the targets are area targets or hard targets 125mm guns can't deal with in direct fire mode so a 250kg bomb or 500kg bomb is needed.

    If the aircraft can put the weapons on target it does not matter if they are expensive guided weapons or cheap dumb bombs.

    Russia is not in the same place as Iran and has developed new ranges of vehicles to replace their existing types... and ironically their tanks and APCS already use the latest gun fired missiles or ATGMs so there is no real problem at all.

    I have seen more video of kornet in Yemen than in Ukraine.

    Ukraine had thousands of tanks and armoured vehicles at the start of this conflict... more than Yemen?

    Mi-28 and ka-52 mostly carry rockets. Use of Vikhr and other atgm seems to be sporadic

    Most of their missions would be infantry support blunting enemy infantry rushes... for which ATGMs would be useless and Rockets ideal.

    Izd 305 is used but not massively and it must be much more expensive than other heli launched atgm.

    How much is it?

    Being a QWIP IIR chip it might actually be rather affordable assuming they produce enough of them.

    Lancet is greatly used but only from september with Geran arrival. I guess they were hurt to see iranian drones being employed cirrectly and in mass so they speed up production of Lancet. A little bit of competition is always good I guess.

    They signed agreements to make the Geran in Russia before the war started and make the drones for themselves... they started to use Gerans for the same reason they started using Lancets... the other sides air defence needs to be in a shambles for drones to be effective.

    Gvozd arrangement for Pantsir

    Containerized minitiature missiles capable to defeat drone swarms , MLRS, and other saturation type weapons

    This is the future of air defense

    Actually it is important... and so will the similar TOR mini missiles for anti drone use, but they are working on tiny SAMs of 10kgs weight with ARH for precision guidance and a 3kg hit to kill warhead to destroy artillery shells and rockets as well as drones of course over rather short ranges intended to be carried in enormous numbers (ie hundreds of missiles per vehicle).

    There will likely be a naval version and perhaps an aircraft based version to defend aircraft from incoming threats.

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    Post  limb Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:31 pm

    So where in God's green earth did an Ukrainian brigade get 8,000 men per dunno confused You must be a Ukrainian and like to double or treble down your numbers.
    My mistake, I thought it was half or 2/3s a division.
    So far theres still millions of able bodied men  not in the armed forces in ukraine. They fill in their numbers by pressganging and brainwashing the men that they're helping preserve muh ukrainian ethnicity from "genocide"

    BTW wagner themselves claim theres at least 20000 ukrainian troops in artemovsk alone, with massive numbers in the fortifications around it, plus an unknown amount of froeign mercs.
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    Post  Arrow Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:08 pm

    Weapons production at full speed Very Happy

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/71054

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    Post  Erk Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:19 pm

    Lots of missile action happening.

    The whole of Odessa Region has been left without electricity amid the attack, local authorities said. In Ukraine’s second-largest city Kharkov, the subway system has been paralyzed due to a power outage, with people being evacuated to the surface, the mayor said.

    The South Ukraine Nuclear Power Plant in the southern city of Nikolaev has been forced to shut down all of its reactors, according to media reports. The plant became the largest in Ukraine after Zaporozhye Region, which hosts the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, joined the Russian state last month as a result of a referendum.

    The local authorities have also confirmed the stoppage of reactors at the Khmelnytskyi Nuclear Power Plant in western Ukraine.

    Strikes and power outages have also been reported by officials in Lviv, Nikolaev, Khmelnytsky, Sumy and other locations.

    The neighboring former Soviet Republic of Moldova has also experienced power shortages as a result of the Russian strikes on Ukraine. The country’s energy system is connected to that of Ukraine. There’ve been blackouts in the capital Chisinau and other parts of the country, with the breakaway region of Transnistria also being affected.
    https://www.rt.com/russia/567044-massive-strikes-ukraine/

    Is this the first time the strikes have caused the 2 NPP in Ukraine to shutdown?


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    Post  ALAMO Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:20 pm

    Three NPPs taken out of the grid due to today's attacks.
    Nuclear is almost half of Ukro-generated electricity, minus Zaporoska still leaves 30+%. They cound't cut off the Ukrs without targeting NPPs infrastructure.
    So seems like they did.
    Seriously.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:03 pm

    Question, what is desertion like in Ukraine? If I am to estimate their losses by those which they project on to Russia in terms of men and equipment then is it safe to say they have had somewhere in the neighborhood of 250,000 deserters? It may well be that they have battle groups that would be at 8000 if fully manned but may actually have less than half that number and the morale is probably very low. The Russians have no winter clothing tells me they (the Ukrainians) are not able to supply winter gear to their conscripts.
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    Post  Isos Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:08 pm

    Winter clothes can be bought on civilian market easily. Actually civilian equipment for camping and winter sport are way more advanced than what the military produces.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:17 pm

    Of course that may be part of why Russia is targeting energy infrastructure. Your house or apartment doesn't have heat or power you buy up the civilian cold weather stuff, troops be damned.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:31 pm

    ll nuclear power plants in Ukraine and most thermal power plants and hydroelectric power stations were temporarily de-energized on Wednesday, the Ministry of Energy reports

    Kaboom ...

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    And looks like the terrorist Russkie are using German made missiles to hit the residential buildings in Kiev ...

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    They must have run out of S-300 then scratch dunno

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    Dnjepropetrovsk, long lines at gas stations
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