Russian special military operation in Ukraine #33

About the two fallen "Polaks":


Teifel = German surname

Szeremeta  = Ukrainian surname (Sheremeta)



What Poles?




http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html

Many Aussiedler still live in Poland as vast areas were parts of Prussia. They are Polish citizens, that's all that matters.

Note the small explosions on the ground beyond the Gepard after the missile was hit. Any idea what they are?

Stealthflanker wrote:You can make huge things to have low RCS tho. Strizh do have treatment to lower its RCS, and the thing already successful enough penetrating NATO airspace and crashed in Zagreb.

Back in March i did a bit of RCS prediction for the Strizh

https://twitter.com/Flankerchan/status/1502617105086107648

Only in S-band but Russians have many of them includin the A-50's. It assumes no Absorbers or treatment, The drone is able to pull 0.38 sqm. That's a good value i think. With treatment it can perhaps reach 0.1 sqm and make Russian radar work harder.

If they do observed the drone tho, i wonder why no fighter aircraft dispatched to engage or Visually acquire them.

Why can't russian OTH radars detect them then? Where is Voronizh, wheres nebo, wheres konteyner? Why don't the russians have radars that can easily detect low flying low RCS cruise missiles? Do you think russian air defence would be able to detect a massive tomahawk strike from away?

A lot of modern radar works in conjunction with neural networks and AI but you still have a human element. Each time something breaks thru the Russians learn from it. Air defense is one of the hardest skillsets in modern military.

limb wrote:

Why can't russian OTH radars detect them then? Where is Voronizh, wheres nebo, wheres konteyner? Why don't the russians have radars that can easily detect low flying low RCS cruise missiles? Do you think russian air defence would be able to detect a massive tomahawk strike from away?

The other possibility is it is not done by drones but rather saboteurs. and for some reason the MoD tells it's drone attack.

In regards of Drone.. well why nobody ask how many they launched ? The VKS may lack in doing patrols but in order to increase the odds of succsesfull attacks, Ukrainian forces may launch multiple drones, yet there dont seem to be massive damage in Engels, while in Dyagilevo the damage was in the Tu-22M3's.

JohninMK wrote:Note the small explosions on the ground beyond the Gepard after the missile was hit. Any idea what they are?

The SPAAG was still trying to hit the missile after it was on its way down. Look at 0:12.

Do you think russian air defence would be able to detect a massive tomahawk strike from away?

Syria's anti -aircraft defense does not seem to have trouble detecting and destroying 70% of last massive Tomahawk strike...

Saw this image earlier and found it to be very accurate. Here's a better quality image of it.

Russia needs to increase its artillery shell production 12 folds but with extra thermobaric power to incinerate more Ukro and NATzO roddents

This is simple and I will explain it to you.
Russia should use low intensity nuclear weapons and end the war. Since there are many cowardly Europeans in the forum, they are afraid to assume that consequence. It's the only way, assume it. And it is a direct message to the West.

If Russia loses the war with a shitty and inferior country like Ukraine, not only its prestige is in danger, but also the unity of the Federation, since it will not be tolerated by many sectors.

Russia is not going to lose any war in Ukraine. It is unclear if the whole of Ukraine will be rolled over, but the current south and east
are not going to be surrendered or sold out. The whole of the "success" of the Kiev regime is its human wave tactics with local
10 to 1 advantages where Russia decided not to expend its resources over worthless real estate from a military perspective. These
human waves are not going to bring the Kiev regime long term victory, they will burn it out faster. NATzO is going to have to step in
sometime this winter to prevent the Kiev regime bubble from bursting. But NATzO is unable to step in. It can only feed its soldiers
as mercenary proxies which only works as long as Russia does not actively destroy the logistics chains out of Poland.

The coming winter campaign will be a real game changer because the holding pattern we have seen for months resulting from the limited
Russian deployment will no longer be the case. I am not happy with the 380,000 additional troops but a certain retired US general is talking
about 700,000 total Russian forces in Ukraine which may be more realistic. The meat spewed out by the Kiev regime will not work against
such a Russian force whatsoever. This meat is not properly trained and especially not properly armed. Surovikin's statements about grinding
down the Ukr "army" (more like rag tag bands at this stage) cannot be an indefinite activity. It does not make sense to keep grinding down
what is no longer there. What is the point of deploying the additional 380,000 (or higher) troops? Such a force imbalance must result in
a rapid advance of the front at some stage (this winter).

You will notice how some members will pop their heads in and spam this thread if something happened that was rather miniscule but will push a narrative that Russia is losing.

Yeah, 2 Tu-22m3's were damaged. Oh no. How will Russia keep the 20% of Ukraine it has and more territory its gaining now?

There are indeed members that need to be banned.

"They keep coming so the Russians can just keep shooting them as they are..."

Garry, Vietnam proved that that's a terrible way to wage war.

It is the best way to eliminate the rotten military core of the country... which was absent in Vietnam... the US tells the world they saved the world from communism in Vietnam, but Vietnam was about the end of ending colonialism there... first the French and then the Japs and then the French again and then a US coalition trying to control the country... to which the country rebelled.

This tactic can continue for a while because it is cost effective in terms of resources and men.

Great. That changes absolutely nothing regarding how terrible of a strategy that is to winning a war.

Terrible for Ukrainian civilians being drafted, not terrible for Russia at the moment.

Maybe Engels was hit by that 1000km suicide drone Ukraine recently unveiled.

A couple of pin prick attacks for which the response is likely to make Ukrainians suffer even more...

Yeah geran style drone swarm attacks against Russia would be rather humiliating.

There is that word humiliating again, this is not Russia running away from Kabul leaving allies to the wolves... Kiev using western made drones to try to attack Russia is to be expected, and the consequences should be expected too... I rather think it is time to start targeting things they have not attacked just yet...

The screening of "refugees" hasn't been up to scratch, so to speak, and Russia's rather complacent when it comes to base security sometimes. Seems like it just never occured to them that Ukrainians would even attempt such things, since they appear so foolhardy.

The Russian response is going to make any achievements look relatively pointless... but they are that stupid...

Eh? What you describe is the very same complacency I mentioned.

Hahahaha... yes, complacency... because Kievs forces are complete morons and have not had planning and support from HATO for this operation... some MiG-29 took off from Kiev and flew into Russian airspace and casually bombed two airfields inside Russia and then presumably flew back unmolested while the Russian guards sat smoking and drinking vodka presumably.

The same sort of complacency the US displayed in 11/9, or that chechen refugee that the US took in that eventually bombed one of their marathons...

They will go further, you can't relax.

If they were relaxed then all of the people caught would not have been caught and there would be dozens of attacks every day by terrorists.

The first two (?) attacks shouldn't even have succeeded had they realized the gravity of the situation. They were rather complacent, thinking that "no way they'd attempt that"... But at least they got everything in order before major damage happened.

Their problem was that they didn't have an expert like you there to tell them exactly what those terrorists were going to do...

Likewise, there shouldn't even be the possibility of an attack on strategically important Engels AFB at this stage. Doesn't matter if it's by a sabotage team working locally or by some new long-range drone (that I still have't seen any evidence for).

Yeah, of course and how humiliating for the US for the Pentagram to be hit by a hijacked airliner... how complacent were they...

And of course, this could be the case too. Again, did anyone provide any indication of Ukrainian involvement yet? Let alone long-range drones (600km+)?

How complacent of you to not find out the facts before making accusations?

Some changes to the electronics could solve this. Still it hits in 90 of 100 cases. Even some of the close misses resulted in damage to the target.

Not to mention discolouration of underwear, and a distinct aroma pervading the vehicles after the events...

Western plans hitting reality again.

It was selling at about $64 per barrel just recently, but now $79... nice.

Of that like half goes to Europe, the other half to Asia.

Part of the price cap includes bans on shipping Russian oil to the EU... only piped oil to Hungary and other countries is exempt for a time period.

@Belisarius... the periodic table of elements...

I think they should equip Lancet drones with a small secondary incendiary warhead to at least give some probability that targets catch fire.
We don't know about the damage, but with incendiary filler the S-300 wouldn't be so lucky.

A HEAT warhead penetrating the side of one S-300 would burn the entire vehicle... extra weight would slow it down and reduce its speed and range, and not improve the chances of a hit... that attack might have been to slow down the vehicles while artillery gets zeroed in to fire at them for all we know... note the use of the drone spotting the target and watching the attack... the higher flying drones would see the miss allowing follow up attacks to be actioned.

The Brent price drop proves that the "market" is rigged. Russia needs to play hardball and deliberately divert its exports away from the NATzO fraud
exchanges. The demand is not created by NATzO fraudsters.

The west has set a deadline but has not actually enforced anything yet... lets see how that works out for them first...

This is not about Russia selling oil, this is about the wests monopoly on oil transport and shipping insurance and sales bookings being broken with alternatives being created around the world to do the same job, probably better.

The strike on the airfield in Engels was carried out by the Soviet Tu-141 Strizh UAV, which freely overcame almost 650 km over the territory of the Russian Federation.
Such a drone should not be a problem for Russian air defense... It's not a small plastic drone, etc. It's huge. The Russian defense is doing a huge job, but they should shoot it down.

The same drone that penetrated over 500km of HATO airspace including crossing several borders without being noticed too...

Shot from the other side.

At least it is not a Tu-22M3M... as the visible gun proves.

Lucky thing is that X-22 under the wing didn't catch fire.

Would not be fuelled up until just before takeoff...

TASS blames MAXAR for supplying Ukraine with intel about the airbase that was hit last night.

That might be a good result of these attacks... start to target civilian assets being used by the west to find targets in the Ukraine.... this could get interesting...

Ffs they are using tires as a protection for their strategic bombers. What a bunch of dumb assholes.

If it is stupid but it works then it is not stupid... storing tires where they can serve double duty as ballistic protection is actually a good idea.

Restocking Western ammunition after arming Ukraine will take years -producer

It will also be enormously profitable....

The strizth , supposedly has no explosive warhead , only cameras . Yet large explosion reported in two different locations . Too large to be retrofitted small warhead of 50 - 100 kg . More like 250 - 500 kg warhead of cruise missile

It can carry a bomb, which it also did when it entered HATO airspace earlier in the war...

Note the small explosions on the ground beyond the Gepard after the missile was hit. Any idea what they are?

Looks like part of the cruise missile exploding when hitting the ground... perhaps fuel tanks and engine parts... those 35mm shells probably broke the cruise missile apart... the small explosions happen about the same time the main part of the missile hits the ground, so all parts hitting the ground at the same time seems to suggest it was parts of the missile.

Note I think those explosions were on the tree line and well away from the Gepard.

Interesting the video cuts out while the guy in the fore ground is opening fire on what sounds like a drone... wonder if a video is going to appear of a Gepard getting whacked by a Russian drone sometime soon?

Why can't russian OTH radars detect them then? Where is Voronizh, wheres nebo, wheres konteyner? Why don't the russians have radars that can easily detect low flying low RCS cruise missiles? Do you think russian air defence would be able to detect a massive tomahawk strike from away?

Because the Orcs are not idiots and didn't send dozens of drones... they probably sent one to each target and flew it in a way that made it look non threatening, perhaps flying with other air traffic, maybe even using a civilian airliner transponder signal so as not to attract attention.

The U.S. Army is planning a ‘dramatic’ six-fold artillery shell production boost

I am sure they will do it in the most cost effective way to save as much money as possible.... NOT.

No-one intends to lose the war with the Ukraine, and Russia is not losing it as of current time

Orcs are getting minced in counter attacks they mount with a tank and a few BMPs and civilian SUVs which get pushed back to their starting points rather quickly minus most of the vehicles and often less than half of the men they attacked with, losing three men is regrettable, but it is hardly losing the war as you point out FP...

These actions by the Orcs will lead to an escalation that they will suffer even more from than if they had done nothing at all... I suspect they want to goad Russia into being as barbaric as them, but the Russian military and Putin are not that stupid or barbaric in nature... they want to in the war in a way that they can also win the peace afterwards.

They will likely have dozens of different plans moving forward and the Orcs are trying to push them into going for the quicker plans, because they know they can't win, but they will be having to answer to their own people... if you think the few paid trolls here bleating about incompetence is bad, imagine what it is like for the other side for those who know what is actually happening... the west is talking about running out of military aid... is that an accident... is this provocation to bolster western support even further, or are they hoping the Russian response to their attacks is what motivates the west to increase support.

From a Russian perspective the good news is that there is really nothing the west can provide that will enable Kiev to win this conflict, and even better Kievs chances of surviving this conflict really revolve around rapid surrender and capitulation and Zelensky has already painted himself in a corner in that regard... he wants Russia to withdraw from Russian territory and hand it over to Kiev, which is illegal under Russias current constitution, and for Putin to step down... which is not going to happen either.

In the mean time skinheads from eastern europe are now constituting a larger fraction of the mincemeat being ground up... I doubt it improves the flavour but the removal from the gene pool is always a good thing.

Columbian man arrested in Russia for using fake Russian cell phone numbers to post fake news on social media pretending to be Russian sources near or at the front lines... who is shocked by this:

https://www.rt.com/russia/567716-us-psyop-colombian-arrested/

And he is just one guy.... how many others still working away... chipping away...

Some were quick to criticize Russia, however..
Currently, the most powerful "weapon" systems are actually satellites, and this conflict proved it. The conflict would have ended a long time ago if it were not for satellites - that is a fact.
I wrote a long time ago that I am not a fan of aviation - not at all.
The media made the majority of the world's population swear and believe in the power of aviation, something similar to the "Bismarck" or "Yamato" in World War II.
As I wrote that even the dominance of the West cannot and will not be eternal, I consider the same for aviation. Nothing is eternal and everything is changeable, so many things we are used to become quite porous and worn out.
Aviation is too expensive and too vulnerable.
The story of stealth is idiocy and a myth.
3 days ago Brian Berletic said that Israel uses its F-35I during airstrikes on Syria exclusively from the territory of Israel. And then what is the purpose of that overpriced plane ?

If the plane flies at a high altitude, it will be very easily blown up by a long-range anti-aircraft system, while at a low altitude, its survival rate will be at the same level or slightly higher than a cruise missile.
I think that it is far more beneficial to produce a few dozen cruise missiles and echeloned air defense for the price of one aircraft. It turns out that the most powerful weapons systems currently are satellites, even though they are not weapon systems.
Air defense has its flaws, aviation has even more and at a much higher price. One motto is still valid and that is that artillery is the "queen of firepower".
More missiles and more guns, and it's all settled..except for the main problem, the satellites.

80% of fuckin' twitter accounts are boots, imagine that.

The irony is that you would reject a movie streaming service that was 80% adverts... even if it was free...

Probably the same one guy running all of the Telegram accounts that limb is subscribed to

This guy started doing this before the conflict... how many would they have recruited since, and the threats he got when he said he didn't want to do it any more suggests they have not got a lot of volunteers...

Russian Army getting serious in the east.





Whilst threatening the west of Ukraine. This may be the same Tors as already reported on the move.

Tanks with rotating turrets are having them blown - off regularly , while the rest of the Tank remains intact or functional  , well apart from the tracks that are another weak point . Too late to re-design , like the old anti-Tank vehicles that use tracks to rotate guns . Tracks once rotated the vehicle , could be retracted inside Hull of vehicle , only it is an engineering problem !

Regards Russian AD , locating these drones hitting targets deep inside Russia . I am not AD expert , but imagine that if Russia grounded all aircraft and missiles sporadically and temporarily , from time to time , then clutter will be zero and Radar could pick up these drones , and learn more about them , to fine - tune the electrics to detect them ? I said the same thing , when I thought NATO may launch missiles from PG region , that grounding all air traffic over Iran and Belorussia would help detection ?