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    Post  PhSt Mon Jan 02, 2023 5:41 pm

    What do the MILF and US dealings in SEAhave to do with Ukraine?

    Its a reminder to the Entire world that Americans are a bunch of BACKSTABBING PIGS!!

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Mon Jan 02, 2023 5:42 pm

    Latest info is that the final count of russian soldiers killed in the Makeevka strike could be something between 400 to 600. This in one himars strike.

    Strelkov says that “many hundreds” died.

    Russia should still win this war but im starting to doubt it. Too much completency and incompetence. Even i (and im not a military person) have enough sense not to house hundreds of conscripts in an unprotected school building that is in range of american operated himars. But apparently russians dont.

    I fully believe russia will lose this. They have more resources than the enemy but they are much more incompetent starting from the kremlin and ending to field commanders.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Jan 02, 2023 5:43 pm

    The Russians have conducted plenty of similar attacks in the past, some far bigger than this, which probably came as a major shock to Ukraine early on. UA started dispersing more and more afterwards.

    All this one shows is a serious lapse of judgment, presenting such a target, knowing full well that 1. UA has the means to deliver pinpoint strikes at this distance from the front and 2. the U.S. provides them with all manners of intel, including cellular activity monitored by satellite.

    The good news are that nobody is denying the gravity of it. Some say Moscow has sent a delegation down there to figure out how this series of brainfarts happened.

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    Post  PhSt Mon Jan 02, 2023 5:44 pm

    Latest info is that the final count of russian soldiers killed in the Makeevka strike could be something between 400 to 600. This in one himars strike.

    Wrong latest info says 50,000 Russian soldiers dead and Pukranian Wehrmacht is in the outskirts of Moscow Rolling Eyes

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    Post  PhSt Mon Jan 02, 2023 5:45 pm

    The good news are that nobody is denying the gravity of it. Some say Moscow has sent a delegation down there to figure out how this series of brainfarts happened.

    Not good enough response, Americans in Pukraine needs an urgent hammering with at least 10,000+ casualties. Russia needs to launch the missiles NOW Asap

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    Post  Hole Mon Jan 02, 2023 5:56 pm

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    Nazis shelled a cemetery in Murom, Belgorod region(?). 15 graves were damaged. Soon they will claim that at least 15 people were killed by the
    strike.  Rolling Eyes

    News:
    The SBU detained the head of the first aid station for the 92nd brigade on suspicion of murdering troops with sedative overdoses. Desertion of medical staff reportedly followed. Kharkov doctors refused to replace them.


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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Jan 02, 2023 5:57 pm

    Well clearly the Russians looked at this forum and believed the clueless experts that HIMARS is harmless so they thought "Eh it will be finnnnnnne"

    Reality is HIMARS is anything but, and now you got those dead men as evidence of it.

    By seriously that is one huge tactical screw up, this late into the war you should know better. Oh well, lets see how the fanboys defend this one

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    Post  PhSt Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:00 pm

    Oh well, lets see how the fanboys defend this one

    Photographic evidence or STFU American Backstabber! Rolling Eyes

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    Post  PhSt Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:02 pm

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    The Anglo PIGS are really itching to exterminate Russians and all other ethnicities Rolling Eyes

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:04 pm

    PhSt wrote:
    The good news are that nobody is denying the gravity of it. Some say Moscow has sent a delegation down there to figure out how this series of brainfarts happened.

    Not good enough response, Americans in Pukraine needs an urgent hammering with at least 10,000+ casualties.

    Ukraine needed 10000+ casualties hammering 10 months ago every day

    What Russia needs here is to find out who fucked up and to fùck him up

    Don't whine about Americans when Russians fùck up, Americans didn't fúck up here, Russians did


    And no, this wasn't "terrorists attack" or some such bullshit, those grunts were legitimate military target if there ever was one

    This is war in case you lived in the cave


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    Post  zorobabel Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:10 pm

    It's a bit of a bold attack in the sense that it was obviously carried out using US intel, which could see many had gathered for a New Year party, while also using a US-supplied precision weapon.
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:13 pm

    Nothing bold about the attack. The americans already know that russia will not retaliate no matter how many russians they kill.

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    Post  Firebird Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:17 pm

    So lets get this right.
    1)The weapons are made and supplied by the Americunt Establishment.
    2)They are guided and target identified by the Americunt Establishment.
    3)With a puppet Nazi Vichy govt installed by the Americunt Establishment.
    4)Even the button was pressed by an American "instructor"/"mercenary", regular US soldier or puppet ie the Americunt Establishment.

    So America has attacked Russia.
    As it has been doing since before 2014.

    What is Russia going to do about it?
    Wait until St Basils is in ruins?

    Russia needs to wake up and smell the coffee.
    780 unwanted overseas US bases. Many DOZENS of countries sick to death of Uncle Satan's imperialism.


    The longer Russia waits, the more deaths and the harder the job.
    As was shown by waiting 8 long years, while the Nazis got armed to the teeth.
    Stop punching the knife. Start punching the devil!

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:36 pm

    Nothing will happen. Putin is a dog that only barks but never bites.

    The US navy could take out the Kerch bridge and publicly brag about it. Russia would still only bark but not retaliate in any way.

    And to think the midget in kremlin offered russian railways for nato cargo to Afganistanin free of charge. Russia never learns that goodwill gestures to its enemies only generate contempt and not good will towards Russia.

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    Post  Belisarius Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:40 pm

    Woah, it seems live caused a lot of butthurt and cope

    Yeah the fact that I made clear your double standards caused you a lot of butthurt...

    There were a bunch back in june, july and august

    If that were the case, you would be replying with prints and links proving what happened, but that was not the case...

    Nice deflection

    I'm not deflecting anything, I'm just pointing out the obvious, liars can't be trusted and need to prove everything they claim.

    I dont care if the ukrainians lie.
    Seriously?!
    I never suspected man Rolling Eyes

    I care about the russian MoD's baseless claims and people like you taking it as pure gospel

    What you care about is talking shit about Russia even if you have to throw in the trash can the argument/logic you were using 2 days ago.

    Meanwhile:
    The russian MoD never said what sunk the moskva
    The russian MoD said absolutely no aircraft were destroyed at saki
    The russian MoD has said that ukraine has lost over 150 Su-25s...

    I stopped reading when you said that the Russian Mod claimed to have shot down 150 Su-25s...
    And I started to wonder how you can lie so blatantly scratch
    They never claimed to have shot down 150 Su-25s, until the end of August the Russians claimed to have destroyed 9, not 30, Himars...


    While you still believe that dozens of Russian soldiers died even without the clear pic...
    Do you even understand the meaning of the word coherence?

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/39716

    This post on telegram was published 11 hours after my comment, 11 hours after you had firmly believed in what happened even before any proof or official statement was given, which totally contradicts your position of 2 days ago in believing in something only AFTER evidence is presented and not before...

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    Post  Sujoy Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:02 pm

    Anti Russian rhetoric is directly related to the reversals NATO suffers on the battlefield. This highly read article (including comment section)says among other things:

    Majority of Russians are not even Slavs.

    Russians of St Petersburg are of German descent, while those from Moscow are of Asian descent.

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    Post  Hole Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:05 pm

    So yesterdays "score" was not 1000+ to 50 - 100 and in the weeks before but 1000+ to 150. Big deal.  Rolling Eyes
    The only sad thing is that the guys never had the chance to kill a few Nazis.

    Firebird:
    So America has attacked Russia.
    Still a proxy war. Russia had thousands of "instructors" in Vietnam, helping to kill thousands of Americans.
    Ships full of trucks and ammo sailed from the whole "eastern bloc" towards Vietnam with the US Navy watching.
    So the only reaction is the one Russia has shown from the first days of the conflict: hitting bases with foreign troops/mercenaries.
    They killed at least 70 yesterday.

    From The Saker:
    https://thesaker.is/making-sense-of-nato-strikes-against-russia/

    First, none of these strikes will make ANY difference on the actual course of this war.  

    Second, after each of these strikes many people will wonder what Russia will do about it.  The precedent is the attack on the Crimean bridge which gave Russia a pretext to switch off the lights in Banderastan. And yes, it was clearly only a pretext, as such massive strikes campaign cannot be quickly planned and executed in a few hours/days.  The self-evident truth is that the Russians were quite ready to unleash their strikes long BEFORE the Crimean Bridge attack, but that they were more than happy to have that attack as a pretext (as opposed to a *reason*) to strike.


    And, if you wonder, Russia is still conducting such strikes on a daily basis, including strikes involving hundreds of missiles!  These follow on strikes are almost not reported in the western media because 1) “Ze” banned any images/videos of the results of these strikes and 2) reporting their true magnitude would undermine the official narrative (including the one about Russia running out of ammo).


    Still, NATO does not act just to show that it can act.  There is a real, military, purpose behind these strikes.  And it is not “just” to provoke Russia into some kind of response (not with tens and even hundreds of Russian missile strikes every day already taking place).


    The war is already going on, the Russians are already fighting along a very long frontline, the Russian Aerospace Forces are already striking targets over the entire Ukraine, so what is there more to provoke/trigger?


    I submit that there is only one thing which the Russians have not done yet, and that is the fullscale combined arms operation the Russian General Staff is obviously preparing.  And since this major offensive is almost certain to happen, the only thing which such NATO strikes could affect is the timing of the attack.  And since there is no way that these NATO (pinprick) strikes could delay the Russian offensive, their only possibly goal would be to make it happen sooner.


    Why would NATO want the Russian offensive sooner rather than later?  In all its other actions, the AngloZionists have tried to draw out this war for as long as possible, so why would they want to make the Russians attack sooner rather than later?


    Because the Russian General Staff is waiting for all the “ducks to be lined” up before attacking.  Thus by trying to force the Russians into a premature attack date, NATO is, very logically, trying to prevent all the said “ducks” to be “lined up”.  In other words, NATO is trying to force the hand of the Russian General Staff by increasing the pressure on the Kremlin to “finally take action”.


    Trying to force your enemy into a premature attack makes perfect military sense (as would any effort to seize the initiative and impose your tempo on your enemy).
    These efforts are greatly aided by the following categories:


    • Civilians who don’t understand warfare


    • Infantiles who get outraged every time NATO successfully strikes Russian targets


    • Western (fake) “friends of Russia” who mantrically repeat that “Putin is weak/indicisive/naive/fill_the_blank“


    • Western PSYOPS who want to spread FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubts) in the Russian general public


    These four groups form a rather loud crowd who act EXACTLY as the AngloZionist want them to.


    Unlike the hallucinations of the (fake) “friends of Russia” in the West, the “Strelkovites” and other assorted “allislosters” in Russia have very little traction or credibility with the Russian general public.  Simply put – Russians trust Surovikin (and Putin!) much, much, more than these hysterical FUDers because they instinctively feel that what is needed is not anger, but focus.

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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:08 pm

    1) How does anyone on Telegram and elsewhere who is not in the actual Russian army know that these were reservists?
    Recall all the attempts to boostrap revolution in Russia over every incident that was supposed to demonstrate the total
    failure and incompetence of the Russian forces and Putin in particular?   Looks like "reservists" is inserted here to lubricate
    the same agitprop BS.

    2) Why are Russian forces using schools as bases all of the sudden?   That is what Ukr-tard regime forces were doing since
    the beginning of the war but this is the first time I hear of Russian forces doing the same.   You would think all the eager beaver
    Russia hater lemmings around the world would be trumpeting that Russian soldiers use schools for "cover".

    This clearly smells of yet another psyop even if it does involve "100 dead and wounded".   This thread demonstrates how such
    psyops have easy traction since no attempt to ask any sober questions is made.  Just believe the claims and you are set.

    I am going to guess that most of the dead are civilians.   Because that makes more sense and is consistent with the early
    reports that the number of military casualties was low.   And the school was not a barracks.

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    Post  TMA1 Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:26 pm

    Yes spooks comb over sites like this what are you retarded? And yes they were legit military targets. Doesnt make it any nicer to know this fact. I'm starting to think some western agents outside Ukraine need some attention. And yes I'm probably on some list for saying shit like that I dont give a ****. DHS and FBI can suck my dick and like it. Fucking treasonous cunts. Oh and limb that is quite enough cheek out of you for one day.

    Excuse my language.

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    Post  Hole Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:28 pm

    Governor of Samara stated that some (mobilized?) soldiers from his region died there.

    Maybe this was a civilian gathering with soldiers bringing or receiving some gifts?
    There were a lot of similar events in the past days where soldiers visited schools/kindergardens/orphanages and so on.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:31 pm

    Why would a bunch of civilians be in a closed-down vocational school on New Years? Why would the RU MoD admit to 63 dead soldiers, ie "fair game" to put it harshly, if the victims actually were civilians and the attack thus by every single metric on the planet would amount to pure Ukrainian terrorism on a scale not seen since the Odessa massacre?

    None of that computes for me.

    Glancing through Russian news just now, the governor of the Samara region just said that many victims were from there, so that's an admission pointing to newly mobilized Russians troops. Other news state that the Federation Council and the President were given special briefings on the incident, and that a commission has been formed to figure out how in the world anybody on site in Donetsk found it a good idea to base such a concentration of military personnel in such a location even if it only was for a night or two. I believe that the short version is "heads are gonna roll".

    It's the result of a bunch of people messing up bad, that's it, really. Ukraine similarly messed up bad on multiple occasions when they put hundreds of troops in various barracks all over the place, only to see them all go in one blow. They learned from it in time, and Russia has evidently been aware of these risks too, since these things aren't a common occurence. Some serious lapse of judgment occured in this instance though.


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    Post  Firebird Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:31 pm

    @Sujoy
    Ultimately that cockslurper can't even spell KIEV right.
    If most Russians aren't Russian, what does that make that piece of shit?
    A pathetic Russian who pretends he's "Ukrainian".

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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:49 pm

    These being mostly civilian victims computes much better than regular Russian forces using a "closed down" school as barracks.
    This is not standard operating procedure and the Russian army is not impoverished like the Ukr one.

    So all we have right now is hand waving and plausibility arguments. Those that claim 100 reservist casualties need to prove it.
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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:52 pm

    @Sujoy

    I have been hearing this Russians "aren't real Slavs" BS from Ukrs for decades. A popular one was that Russians were some sort
    of mostly or fully Finno-Ugric mix. That is funny considering that western Ukrs are in fact mixtures of Romanians, Poles, Hungarians,
    Slovaks and other groups. Ethnic purity is a disease of the Ukr nazionalist mind. Suppose Russians were Finno-Ugric, then so what?
    Kiev is still a Russian city.

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    Post  Isos Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:56 pm

    I propose 2 days ban for all the people writting dumb off topic emotional stuff.

    Back on the topic, what Russia needs and should buy :

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