Russian special military operation in Ukraine #38
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No 300 tanks,but a visit as the compensation.
You won't get the tanks, but later you won't get even more!
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MOSCOW, February 20. /TASS/. Since December 2021, NATO countries have handed over to Ukraine more than 1,100 air defense systems, 440 tanks and 1,510 armored personnel carriers, the press service of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) told TASS on Monday.
"The Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation has information that during hostilities against Russia since December 2021, NATO countries handed over to the Ukrainian army 1,170 air defense systems, 440 tanks, 1,510 armored personnel carriers and 655 artillery systems," the press service said.
Additionally, the Kiev regime received 9,800 rockets for multiple-launch rocket systems, 609,000 anti-tank rounds and 1,206,000 shells from NATO. "Most of military equipment supplied by the West has been destroyed by Russian troops," the press service noted."
https://tass.com/society/1578663
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of the NATzO west club intact in the face of cruel reality. "You see, they really value us and even the President of the United States
has come for a visit to show his support". Forget about the trickle of weapons and munitions and that our regime is a total sock puppet
sending our men to their graves. "Tse Evropa". "Tse zapad".
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At the end of the day all that matters is having trained men, material, spare parts, fuel & lubricants, ammunition and a working supply chain. Western stocks are empty/almost empty. The armor they had and donated was too little, too old and too diverse to operate. And the industry that needs to build all of that, well, requires relatively cheap gas. The pinnacle of morality and global human consciousness - the US with their accomplice Norway - have taken care of those pipelines.
To this day it surprises me - maybe not as Russia has always played it nice and remained cool headed - that none of the Western infrastructure had an natural incident. Like a Norwegian pipeline hit by a rogue whale, or some or all of the mission critical transatlantic communication infrastructure accidently being damaged by a very local and sudden change in pressure. With the latter you would also hurt China's economic interests, but the Norwegian pipeline ...
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There are several different and independent producers at the moment, all of them making new/modernized wagons with almost complete localization of supply chain.
Just for the records of how the modern tram factory look like :
And guess what ...
Every single factory that can produce those, is capable of producing heavy military gear...
Like tanks, APC and BMP.
SEVERAL independent producers. Dispersed in the whole of Russia.
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Actually it was the civilian US population that actually ended the war, which is why the US military cracked down on western media and made them her bitches ever since and anti war protests in the west have become minority events of fringe value only and wars become the first option instead of the last.
Sure, but not due to anything that this poor Vietnam did. They had no international media organizations, or paid off politicians in the West, or much of anything outside their borders
The civilian US population ended the war because the casualties from the war started to bite, and where people were indifferent or not willing to go out of their way to oppose the war before, even if that was their inclination - they began to do exactly that openly as the war become never-ending and for what purpose it wasn't apparent. Not immediately though mind you, even here it took 3 years of US involvement before the protests started to become a thing.
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https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-update-218-major-war-confirmed
Simplicius76' wrote:
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SITREP: Update 2/18 - Major War Confirmed Imminent
Calm before the storm.
Simplicius The Thinker
Feb 19
“Strictly speaking, we haven’t started anything yet.” ~Vladimir Putin, July 2022
Since we’re getting so close to approaching the nail-biting period of February 21 - 24 that so many are anticipating, I figured it’ll be good to compile all the recent, top developments regarding the potential for a new ‘major’ Russian offensive. Some of them have already been mentioned in a previous update, but we’ll cite them again to centralize all relevant materials.
1. First, there are two reputable channels which are now confirming major actions are coming within a week. Romanov Lite, who many of you know, is a Crimean based commentator who also works with some Russian/Donbass units, helping supply them and is often seen on the lines with them, often has insider info as he speaks directly to the troops. He posted this message that it is soon GO TIME:
Note, the specific confirmation of something we predicted here in one of the recent reports, which is that the offensive is likely to kick off, not all at once but in several stages in order to maximize confusion, allow a little lead time for AFU to frantically send reserves to one direction to caulk the flow, only for a completely different direction to massively kick off into un-reinforced territory.
2. Then, another reputable channel issued this urgent call of alarm:
“From "2 Majors" TG Channel:
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Residents of Ukraine
Everyone understands that the past month, during which the Russian Armed Forces seized the initiative, was a preparation . Open sources mention the Sumy, Chernigov, Kharkov and Zaporizhia as possible directions for an offensive.
People living in these territories can see for themselves signs of how the AFU are preparing these cities and areas for defense. The area is being mined, fortifications are being built, military columns and buses with mercenaries are moving.
The Ukrainian command has good intelligence from American satellites, processed by experienced analytical centers.
But official Kiev does not announce the evacuation of the population. Because fortified areas are being built in cities and the civilian population will once again become a human shield. Evacuation in Kupyansk was announced after the Russian Armed Forces approached the city at 7-10 km.
It is absolutely necessary for Ukrainians to leave these cities. The Russian Armed Forces will no longer conduct a police operation. Such nonsense as it was in Mariupol, when the position of an enemy sniper/machine gunner could not be demolished because in a dilapidated five-story building "there can be civilians", will no longer apply.
And after all the horrific videos of tortures and shootings of our soldiers, the joyful reaction of a large number of Ukrainians to them, the attitude of soldiers and officers to "peaceful population" has changed somewhat.”
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Right now, news is coming that Biden has previously coordinated his visit with Russia, having received security guarantees. It means that no shelling of Ukraine is being conducted at this time, the air alert is only a fiction to create a media occasion.
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Rodion_Romanovic wrote: rember that in 2014- 2015, every time that vice president Boden visited Kiev, the 404 military (together with the neonazy battalions) increased the amount of shelling and bombardments against the Donbass.
and now with Russians bombing Avdeevka and other places, they cant easily do that anymore eh.
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I hope it's some sort of maskirovka...
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Arrow wrote:https://m.vk.com/photo-206639135_457337115?rev=1
I hope it's some sort of maskirovka... Smile
I doubt shortages will last long, shells are being produced, I doubt Russia used all of its reserves too. It will definitely be replenished after operational break that will help to consolidate the stocks. Bakhmut is most active place for artillery right now, it seems Ukrainian artillery is even more exhausted/destroyed. I would love to hear the estimates of how many fire missions Russians do, must be record sorties compared to the rest of the conflict
Oh, by the way, Prigo is Kremlins man and has no political ambitions. I think over so many years he proved that he is trustworthy and not some James Bond villain like media wants to portray him
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What are the chances that the West declares shortage of Ammo , followed by rumours by Russia too ? Well zero . To my mind someone was trying to say " perhaps Archibald make peace , we are ( uhumn...uhumn ) running low , " and someone in Russia unofficially reciprocated " me too ! " Meaning we will reciprocate . Well it did not work . So the Vuhledar Ants running out of their shelters , to stop town falling to Russia ? They are so sensitive about a Town . I guess they have not much to show for their efforts , and loss of Town crushes their morale . So they take risks and come out into the open . Good . It will be great to see Bakhmut liberated by Putin speech time .Regarding Moldova and Transnistra , or West Ukrs ,the Russians there are minority and in many cases , there is no great civil war there to justify intervention . Best liberate the East region , where there was ethnic cleansing by Nazis . The fate of other regions may be determined differently , after population make shish-kebab out of them .
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billybatts91 wrote:Recent Russian offensive in Vuhledar failed miserably, last night Ukrainians conducted a counteroffensive and retook some land.
I was not aware of any further advances towards the town since the episode with the minefield?
Certainly one can't talk of an offensive anyway, it's too small scale. More like probing attacks. An offensive is something that covers a huge geographical area and/or involves tens of thousands of troops.
If Ukrainians retook land then it is because few Russian forces are there. The most important thing for them is to look good on the map, so let them.
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Right now, news is coming that Biden has previously coordinated his visit with Russia, having received security guarantees. It means that no shelling of Ukraine is being conducted at this time, the air alert is only a fiction to create a media occasion.
That's a cuck move by Russia. How does Russia know what the Anglo satanists have in mind ? They could have rooftop snipers ready to take Biden out. Then what ? All Russia had to say was we guarantee nothing.
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RF offensive operations in the ugledar region
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