Russian special military operation in Ukraine #62

Still weighs less than an Abrams  

I watched the video. These naval drones would probably be able to do between 15-30 knots max which is not that fast if you compare it to a land speed of around 25-55 km/h. It shouldn't be too much of a problem to hit such a target. It should be very easy to laze it from the air.

It is not so much the top speed but the high acceleration and ability to turn and change direction quickly.

One of the X-UAV "Aircraft Guided Missile's" possible targets is actually stated as "low-tonnage surface targets in the coastal zone day and night in simple and limited difficult weather conditions" - which I think is pretty much aimed at these types of naval drones and other small craft.

It would be ideal for a range of small boat targets, but not necessarily a small essentially jet boat highly manouverable target.

They are not easy, but I will agree they are not impossible either.

The features intrinsic to a helicopter mounted cannon or machine gun makes them the weapon of choice against such targets...

The Orion UAV is not the only type slated for the missile. The Ka-52M (and in all probability the KA-52K), as well as the Outpost and Altius UAV's can utilize the missile.

If the target does not see it coming a weapon launched from a high flying drone might be ideal for hitting such target... a helicopter would be more likely to use cannon fire instead of a missile.

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And yet the Russians themselves have mentioned a role for the Mi-28NM that includes anti drone use.... aerial and sea surface drones one can assume...

Speed and endurance and self defence suite against IR and other guided enemy weapons...

A 30mm cannon would be rather good for dealing with such targets.

Also formally admitting that it's hurting their "war effort" like hell

For someone who has said there will be no negotiations with Putin, this must be hurting bad for him to now say this...

But he is not president and can't be trusted anyway. Russia withdrew from Kiev as part of a peace deal and Kiev threw it in his face... keep hitting energy infrastructure... hard.

It´s not a version as such, the Ka-29 can be outfitted with a cannon + rocket launchers and ATGMs
as attack heli or with some gatling gun in the nose in a transport confuguration.

My understanding is that all versions of the Ka-29 have the four barrel gatling gun under the plate in the nose, but only some were fitted with the 30mm cannon mounted on the left side with ammo contained in the cabin.

There is no 30mm 2A42 version. A fixed 30 mm 2A42 cannon with 250 rounds of ammunition can be installed on the left side.

So there isn't and there is?

If that helicopter tried to run the r-73 would have destroyed it.

Would helicopters every try to get that close if they thought they were in real danger?

They have options including ATGMs to hit small targets if they wanted... they were choosing to use cannon and machine gun fire.

They wont have been patrolling around the place just on the off chance they might spot something... another platform spotted the target and this aircraft was sent to deal with it.

Any truth to the rumor that the pentagram and American destruction of state department is going to use the alleged deployment of North Korean troops to Russia as an excuse to get South Korean F 16 pilots to go to Ukraine so they can fly suicide missions to attack Russia? I mean wouldn't such an act mean Russia could put a nuclear tipped rocket up Lloyd the house boy and Tony Winken Blinken and Nod's assholes

Even with shiny new American pilots, those F-16s are not going to do very much.

Anyway, how would SK F-16s get to Ukraine?

Suspect they would just send pilots. The old model F-16s wont last long no matter who the pilots are...



The feed goes through the side of the helicopter into the cabin, so if you wanted you could load as many 30mm cannon shells as you wanted for that fixed 30mm cannon.

And for those upset that it is fixed, the cannon on the twin 30mm mounted Hind is fixed too... as is the twin 30mm cannon on the Su-25 and single barrel 30mm cannon on the Su-30 and Su-27 and Su-35 and Su-34... in fact most fighter aircraft have fixed cannon requiring the aircraft be pointed at the target to engage it.

The Ka-29 has a coaxial rotor system so pedal turns are very effective at a range of speeds and flight attitudes... a pedal turn is initiated by increasing one rotor speed over the other giving lots of energy to turn the nose even when moving at speed. In comparison, a helicopter with a tail rotor would have trouble turning the nose of the aircraft in forward flight because the airflow over the helicopters bits would tend to keep it nose forward... and the fact that the tail rotor is on one side of the fuselage means it is going to pull in one direction much more effectively than it is going to push in the other.

Suffice to say pedal turns in a Ka-29 should make fixed guns (including guns in gun pods) quite effective.

Russian Soldiers Captured US PQ-20 Puma Drone with State-of-Art Tech, 10.26.2024.

Russian experts and engineers obtained unique samples of Western military equipment during the special military operation. Studying them will allow Russia to learn more about their vulnerabilities.

Russian servicemen downed a US RQ-20 Puma drone with hardware intact, a counter-drone expert told Sputnik.

“Specialists of the electronic warfare group in the Zaporozhye region managed to ground an American RQ-20 Puma drone. It was a rare case in which it was possible to land the drone with its components unaffected, so to speak. We have a few samples of drone systems at our disposal. We will work with them,” he said.

He further noted that there was another target around – the Ukrainian Baba-Yaga drone – which was shot down by Russian soldiers.

“Near the RQ-20 was a Baba Yaga drone, which was shot down with small arms. Upon inspection, it turned out that the copter was equipped with a Starlink repeater and a drop system with two ammunition,” the specialist added.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20241026/russian-soldiers-captured-us-pq-20-puma-drone-with-state-of-art-tech-1120683917.html

If that drone's camera spotted that chopper 2km away it would have been dead. That r-73 has wide looking sensor that would pick it up fairly easily and it wouldn't be able to dodge it, neither does it carries flares.

I am guessing that the situational awareness from the sea drone is poor... if you look at the videos they show of attacks it sits very low in the water and wont have a very good view of the airspace around it.

Why would you think a troop transport naval helicopter carries no flares?

It's a dumb way to risk the helicopter and the crew.

They managed to get footage of shooting at the drone and the footage survived the incident which suggests the drone didn't end up shooting down the helicopter.

The Serbs in Kosovo found flying alongside a HATO drone and shooting it using cabin mounted machine guns was the best way to deal with flying drones.

An orion can detect it easily and su-24 can bomb the shit out of it from behind unoticed. A big fab bomb doesn't need to be precise to destroy it. With it's head up display giving real time indication where the bomb will fall the pilot, flying low, can aim 50m in front of it and the drone will go in flames.

Which makes me wonder why they bother with suicide drones if Su-24s can hit small moving targets so easily and so effectively with cheap dumb bombs.

Atgm would have a poor Pk against such target that is fast and keeps jumping on wave. Just like those gun shots that can't touch it.

It is an elusive tricky target that would be difficult to hit with a guided missile. With a burst of rounds from an automatic weapon like a machine gun or cannon it would actually be much easier than this video suggests. You simply aim low and walk your rounds up to the target and when your rounds start hitting the target you hold the aim on the target and keep hitting it till it explodes.

Rockets are also a good choice but the weight would reduce ka-29's range. Here IMO it was doing a patrol mission which suggest it carried more fuel than weapons.

I can't really see them patrolling with Ka-29s very much... the sea is huge and these drones are small and the chance of happening upon a target is pretty low.

I would say this helicopter was waiting for target information and was sent to deal with this drone.

The combination of nose mounted rifle calibre gatling gun, cabin door mounted HMG, and pylon mounted cannon pods mean it is very well equipped for the job.

Two wing pylons with 23mm cannon pods means the other two wing pylons could have 20 shot 80mm rocket pods if needed.

T-72, T-90 finally getting APS

Well that is good news.... should be interesting to see how they perform... operational experience will be good for the systems and their development and adoption.

I wonder if they have anti drone features yet.

The original ARENA could be manually fired to engage enemy troops if they get near the tank... the munition is launched up and fires fragments down and forward... normally into the path of incoming threats, but manually fired it can kill enemy infantry on the ground in front of the tank.

Four bombs. If the impact didn't get them, then the shrapnel followed with the blast wave radiating concussion/shell shock.

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The West offended Zelensky, by David Narmania for RiaNovosti. 10.26.2024.

There is no humiliation that the current Kiev government is not ready to tolerate from the West. And the story of Zelensky's victorious plans, which has received the expected continuation, convincingly confirms this.

As the BBC Ukrainian Service reports, Bankova is preparing another plan. And, apparently, it will differ from the previous ones. It is claimed that this time the strategy provides for a set of solutions that Ukraine itself must implement in various areas, including the military-industrial complex, the economy and social policy.

"The President has already given instructions regarding the preparation of this plan," Zelensky's team said. It should be presented by the end of the year.

And then the information about the next wish list was confirmed by Mikhail Podolyak , advisor to Andrey Yermak , head of the presidential office.

And such news vividly illustrates a circumstance that is unpleasant for Zelensky: the West is unhappy with the previous plan. The media regularly publish articles confirming this assumption. For example, The Economist: "They say the plan is doomed to fail, although part of the problem is that they don't say it to Zelensky's face," the publication quotes a high-ranking Ukrainian official who wished to remain anonymous.

It's funny. We are asked to believe: Biden and company are embarrassed to tell Zelensky that his plan is not jam. But it is hard to believe, because when Bankova realized that the rider, so pompously presented, was not to the West's taste, they decided to wave an imaginary nuclear club, which "could appear in a few weeks." And here, judging by Kyiv's subsequent actions, the West reacted quickly and without any embarrassment.

Because literally a few hours after the speech "Either Ukraine is in NATO , or the whole world will crumble" and the corresponding article in Bild, Kiev furiously rushed to refute its own statements and claim that it was misunderstood. First the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, then Bankova, and then Zelensky himself. And all this - in the evening of the same day.

Judging by how actively the British media is spinning the topic of the new plan, the West turned Zelensky around like a schoolboy with bad homework and said: "Rewrite it so that it looks like your plan." Now, in addition to the surrender of cities, there will be re-submission of plans.

The problem is that the frontman of "95th Quarter" turned out to be a mediocre strategist. Pretending that the usurpers of power in Kiev have some kind of strategy turned out to be an impossible task. I remember that the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Umerov was telling everyone back in February that he had a powerful plan. And then Russian troops liberated Avdiivka , organized the Ocheretinsky breakthrough, approached Pokrovsk and began to drive the Ukrainian Armed Forces out of the surrounding cities, put an end to the attempts of Ukrainian troops to gain a foothold in Krynki, and liberated Ugledar.

Between these events, there was also the Kursk adventure undertaken by Kiev, but the Ukrainian Armed Forces are paying a very high price for it - both in terms of losses ( Vladimir Putin named the figure of 26 thousand people per month), and in terms of the threat of the front in Donbas collapsing . So if there was some kind of plan, it was not implemented.

The doom of the Ukrainian regime is becoming clearer with each passing day. Zelensky, of course, can plan a "reform of everything" and promise Ukrainians mountains of gold, prosperity and peace - this even worked in the elections. But this will remain empty promises, and not some kind of clear strategy.

And in general, Zelensky's actions increasingly resemble the behaviour of his famous colleague in the genre, played by Heath Ledger: "Do I look like a man who has a plan? You know who I am? I'm a dog chasing a car. I wouldn't know what to do if I caught up with it. So I just do it, and that's it."

"I'm just driving Ukrainians to slaughter, that's all" - that's Zelensky's entire plan.

https://ria.ru/20241026/zelenskiy-1980103885.html

So there isn't and there is?

All Ka-29 helis can be fitted with a 30mm cannon.

has a coaxial rotor system

Thanks to the coax rotors the Ka-29 is more stable and has lower vibration levels compared to the Mi-24.

T-72, T-90 finally getting APS

Combat Approved showed the T-72 turret with APS some weeks ago.

Nice

No way to respond: The West has discovered that Putin has beautifully tricked it, by Kirill Strelnikov for RiaNovosti. 10.27.2024.

For almost a week now, the information waves of the collective West have been raging with a wild storm, in comparison to which the last voyage of the Titanic seems like a boat ride on a city pond.

Since October 10, an unprecedented information campaign has been unleashed in the media of unfriendly countries, dedicated to the alleged participation of regular troops of the DPRK in military operations in Ukraine. After the initial information leaks, warming up the public, the illegitimate President Zelensky jumped on stage with the assertion that North Korea "actually entered the war on the side of Russia" and sent "workers for Russian factories and personnel for the Russian army", in connection with which new sanctions should be urgently imposed against Pyongyang. The head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine Budanov* joined in the promotion of the topic, who stated with 100% certainty that "the North Koreans will be ready to fight by November, when they undergo a special training course." Immediately after this, the National Intelligence Service of South Korea (NIS) published a report according to which one and a half thousand North Korean special forces have already been transferred to Russia on Russian landing ships under the protection of Pacific Fleet frigates (even though there is a common land border, but that is not important).

The Americans immediately joined the topic: the coordinator of strategic communications for the White House National Security Council, John Kirby, immediately multiplied the figure by two and reported that North Korea had sent at least three thousand soldiers to Russia. True, it is unknown whether they will participate in the military actions in Ukraine, but if they do, they will become a "legitimate military target." US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin also rushed to confirm Zelensky's statements and said that "there is evidence of the presence of DPRK troops in Russia" and this is "very, very serious," but "what exactly they are doing remains to be seen."

Deciding that there is nothing to find out and that everything is clear, Mike Turner, Chairman of the US House Intelligence Committee, in response to the possible dispatch of North Korean troops to Russia, called for considering the possibility of taking "direct military measures." He can be understood: the invisible 1,500 North Koreans (according to other sources - 2,600, according to others - 12,000) on Russian territory is a "violation of international law," a "sharp escalation" and a "threat to stability throughout the world." After all, according to the German publication Bild, elite units of "combat slaves" are being sent to Ukraine, which "are considered to be among the most brutal in the world."

In dire need of help to extract chips from washing machines, last Thursday our State Duma ratified the treaty on comprehensive strategic partnership between the Russian Federation and the DPRK, which was signed by Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un in Pyongyang on June 19 of this year. The Russian president, who had previously called the treaty "a truly breakthrough document," in his usual good-natured manner drew attention to point number four, dedicated to mutual defense. To avoid any misunderstandings, Deputy Foreign Minister Andrei Rudenko explained that "if the Russian Federation or the DPRK find themselves in a state of war, the point on assistance in the event of an attack of the Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Treaty will be put into effect."

As for the invisible North Koreans, the press secretary of the Russian president Dmitry Peskov commented that on this matter "there is a lot of contradictory information, probably, that is how it should be treated." Representatives of the DPRK also called the unfolding hysteria "stereotypical groundless rumours."

While the most powerful intelligence services of NATO countries compete to see who has found more North Koreans in Russia, Western military experts admit that if this fact is confirmed, Putin has outplayed the West like little children and dealt a number of painful blows to which our opponents have no and will not have an answer.

Here are just a few arguments:

• The North Korean army is the fourth largest in the world (at least 1.2 million people), which has quite serious training, discipline and high motivation. Assistance in some areas (for example, in the Kursk region) will help Russia free up Russian troops to accelerate and expand the offensive and reduce losses.

•The DPRK army has historically paid great attention to artillery and tactical missile systems (for example, the KN-09 MLRS with a firing range of up to 200 km), which can allow for a significant increase in firepower when “processing” the defence nodes of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which again will help reduce losses for the Russian Armed Forces.

• The North Koreans have many years of experience in quickly and efficiently creating engineering structures and fortifications, which could seriously help Russian advancing units in consolidating their positions on new frontiers.

•The North Korean military will gain invaluable combat experience (they have not fought in direct combat since the Korean War) and test the real combat effectiveness of their weapons, and, more importantly, learn to fight with the most modern Russian weapons. General Charles Flynn, commander of the US Army in the Indo-Pacific region, said that the DPRK's participation in the conflict "will allow Pyongyang to get real-time information on the effectiveness of its weapons, which was not possible in the past."

• Sending North Korean troops to Russia could imply sending Russian troops to North Korea in return "if necessary", and within the framework of the signed and ratified treaty this would be completely legal.

The main reasons for our opponents' upset stomachs were voiced yesterday by the Japanese newspaper The Asahi Shimbun: "If the Russian offensive stalls due to losses, Putin could be forced to start negotiations with Ukraine. (However) sending DPRK units... could delay this opportunity and prolong the war." And another passage: "Pyongyang may expect to take military cooperation with Russia to a new level regarding nuclear weapons, which would pose serious risks to the security of Japan and South Korea."

No one in the West expected that invisible North Korean troops could suddenly wipe out any hopes of increasing Russia's losses in Ukraine and turn North Korea into Russia's unsinkable aircraft carrier, armed with the best weapons in the world.

When asked by a Western journalist about satellite images allegedly confirming the presence of North Korean soldiers on Russian territory, Putin replied: "Images are a serious thing, if they exist, then they reflect something." Let those who want to admire the reflections, and "what and how we will do in the future is our business."

*A person included in the list of terrorists and extremists by Rosfinmonitoring.

https://ria.ru/20241027/kndr-1980323257.html

Here is a slightly longer version of that video - it gets destroyed at 1:20 (ignore the rest of the crap on it).

The video shows the drone dead in the water... presumably a cannon or machine gun round took out the engine or drive train and it was a sitting duck and a follow up shot hit the SAM/AAM. Moreover the footage with it stationary in the water shows single shots at the target which makes me think they might have had a heavy calibre sniper rifle in the cabin and took shots at it using that once it was stationary.

I really don't see any heavy duty acceleration and high G turns at all and in the end it exploded in a fireball.

In the first ten seconds of that video it is running forwards full steam ahead and then loops back with an almost 180 degree turn to avoid being shot...

Combine the fact that the target is moving and you are firing from a moving helicopter and tell me it is easy... so why not use sniper rifles and save money on ammo?

Any helicopter can make these type of pedal turns. The Kamov coaxial rotor helicopters can fly backwards at speeds of up to 60 km/h however.

Ka-52s can point their noses freely at flight speeds of up to 120km per hour in any direction... which is why they went for the fixed 30mm cannon mount attached near the cg of the helicopter to better absorb recoil. In normal flight operations the pilot is better able to use pedal turns to aim the gun than a turret could turn to hit targets.

The main reason it has no tail rotor is because it is intended to used on a deck where a tail rotor is horribly dangerous....

Any helicopter can make these type of pedal turns. The Kamov coaxial rotor helicopters can fly backwards at speeds of up to 60 km/h however.
Have a look here at about 1:10 (worth watching all the way! Smile )

Nice video, but in the video they mention the ability to do pedal turns at high speed is a factor of the X arrangement of the tail rotor and that most conventional helicopters can't do that.

When they were trying to sell the Commanche one of the amazing features it was supposed to have was the ability to point its nose at targets in forward flight at high speed so you can fire rockets and fixed cannon pods at targets and launch missiles at targets without having to fly directly at them, which makes you a much harder target because they cant' just point and shoot at you... they have to aim off in the direction you are flying to get hits.

They stopped mentioning the feature when Kamov started revealing the figures for the Ka-50 which was much much better because the pedal turns in coaxial helicopters is achieved by the momentum of the main rotor disk which has rather more energy on a coaxial rotor helicopter than the tail rotor of most helicopters has.

Regarding North Korean soldiers... not really very important... the Russians are already winning, there is no need to add more warm bodies to the mix... I would say 20,000 North Korean young men would be more valuable in a range of industries where they can be trained and up skilled in working in areas that in the future will benefit North Korea. Serve a 5 or 10 year contract working in Russia for a good wage and then head home to North Korea and use your skills to improve NK and have a bit of money and job security.

Read the comments on that video by the Sun....

Pro-ukies britz are simply demented They just have no fcking clue as to what is going on...