Russian special military operation in Ukraine #40
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Look like pilot dumped fuel in way and took out propeller
Nice work VKS
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Hopefully then the pilot set light to it, sorry turned the afterburner on which accidentally ignited the dumped fuel Or, more likely it just ignited on the MQ-9's hot exhaust. If so what a brilliant plan, downed the MQ-9 without actually attacking it. Clearly an unfortunate accident. I wonder how the US knows what happened.
The Russian Navy, on behalf of the USAF will now attempt to recover and return the drone to the US.
The USAF now being reminded how different life will be fighting a peer state, not a 3rd world country like what their past enemies have been. Pity it wasn't a Global Hawk but that no doubt was a conscious decision by the RuAF.
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BREAKING: #Russia|n Su-27 collides with US MQ-9 drone over the #BlackSea
Per @US_EUCOM
, the Russian aircraft was 1 of 2 conducting " an unsafe & unprofessional intercept" when it struck the propeller of the MQ-9, causing US forces to have to bring the MQ-9 down in
int'l waters"
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MORE: Before #Russia|n Su-27 hit the US MQ-9 drone, "the [two] Su-27s dumped fuel on and flew in front of the MQ-9 in a reckless, environmentally unsound
and unprofessional manner" per @US_EUCOM
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"Our MQ-9 aircraft was conducting routine operations in int'l airspace when it was intercepted & hit by a Russian aircraft, resulting in a crash & complete loss of the MQ-9" per US Air Forces Europe & Air Forces Africa Cmdr Gen. James Hecker
Jeff Seldin
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US commander warns the #Russia|n Su-27 was almost lost, as well
"This unsafe and unprofessional act by the Russians nearly caused both aircraft to crash" per Gen Hecker
@US_EUCOM
says the incident " follows a pattern of dangerous actions by Russian pilots...over intl airspace"
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Hole wrote:Still much better than JDAM.
It's comparable i guess to the 90s vintage JSOW glide bombs. Better very late than never i suppose.
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But some reports are saying that the su 27 hit the propeller? With what , the nose cone? Dunno about that. Maybe the US doesn't want everyone to know that all you have to do is dump fuel on these drones to eliminate them. They probably didn't even fly very close to them to get the fuel on them. Which the engine most likely ingested and completely fuct things up.
It isn't illegal to dump fuel over the sea in international waters. Oh there was a Reaper drone down wind? That's a shame.
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Now the US is also targetting their closest ally Israel by sponsoring mass unrest, including today's event that included uploading racist messages against Jews of colour.
Chalk and cheese frankly.RTN wrote:the Grom 31 you guys used failed to hit its target by a mile just like your FAB 500
SVP-24 is not needed for Grom 31. The principal behind JDAM and SVP 24 is completely different. The closest western equivalent to the SVP 24 is Lantirn.
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Russia's defence minister orders to double production of high-precision missiles - TASS
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Look like pilot dumped fuel in way and took out propeller wrote:
They probably just dumped fuel and they didn't even have to light it. These drones have a 950 horsepower turboprop that would just suck up the fuel and over rev till it blows or just stalls. This was probably a more passive move than it seems. They could probably fly a ways away. The drone retards probably took a few minutes before they knew what was happening.
"hey this su 27 is flying in front of us. Why is our drone starting to over rev and run like shit?"
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RF black mamba unit attacking Ukrainian positions in the Svatovsky region
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March 14 this year over the waters of the Black Sea in the area of the Crimean peninsula, the airspace control of the Russian Aerospace Forces recorded the flight of an American MQ-9 unmanned aerial vehicle in the direction of the state border of the Russian Federation. The flight of the unmanned aerial vehicle was carried out with transponders turned off in violation of the boundaries of the area of the temporary regime for the use of airspace, established for the purpose of conducting a special military operation, brought to all users of international airspace and published in accordance with international standards. In order to identify the intruder, fighters from the air defense forces on duty were raised into the air. As a result of sharp maneuvering around 9.30 (Moscow time), the MQ-9 unmanned aerial vehicle went into uncontrolled flight with a loss of altitude and collided with the water surface. Russian fighters did not use airborne weapons, did not come into contact with an unmanned aerial vehicle and returned safely to their base airfield. wrote:
https://t.me/mod_russia/24818
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In the West, they reported the collapse of a key fortification of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Artemovsk, 03.14.2023.
German journalist Roepke reported on the collapse of the key fortification of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Artemivsk.
MOSCOW, March 14 - RIA Novosti. The correspondent of the German newspaper Bild, Julian Roepke, reported on the fall of the critical defensive lines of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Artemivsk.
"Another Ukrainian line of defense in Bakhmut (Artemovsk. - Ed.) collapsed, and Russian forces <...> entered the northern industrial quarter. The Wagner Group is located at the Vostokmash plant, where in December (President Vladimir. - Approx. ed.) Zelensky honored the Ukrainian troops defending Bakhmut," he wrote on Twitter.
According to the journalist, the fortification system was the "last hope" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to create a strong line inside the settlement.
“Now it is gone. The Russians can move forward street by street,” Roepke said.
Artyomovsk is located in the Kiev -controlled part of the DPR, north of Gorlovka, and is an important transport hub for supplying the Ukrainian group of troops in the Donbass . Fierce battles are going on for the city. The founder of the Wagner Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin , reported that its fighters practically surrounded the settlement.
https://ria.ru/20230314/ukreplenie-1857892579.html
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Donbass Devushka wrote:It appears that a US surveillance RQ4 Global Hawk drone, callsign “FORTE10” went missing at 8:40:58 CET (Central European Time). The drone flew within 18 nautical miles of the Russian coastline. It was cruising at an altitude of 52k feet.
There are many reasons to suspect that the drone from todays incident was not a Reaper given their rare usage in that area. Hawks have been spotted much more frequently. This is a much larger embarrassment for USA if this is the case.
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ALAMO wrote:No, it does not, that is why my question remains valid.
Napalm is nothing more than thickened fuel. It can be made of gasoline. Or diesel. Or vegetable oil if needed.
Actually sticks to the surface it falls on. It has the consistency of toothpaste...
And how does this stop it from dropping into the trench?
Plus I'm still waiting on reason why they shouldn't use it
Once apes see the trench nextdoor go all crispy they would reconsider their dedication to exterminating subhumans
American GIs in Pacific knew that bullets don't stop Japanese from banzaing forward but the moment they saw flamethrower going off they would turn tail and ran
Instead of firing 1000 shells at the trench of which maybe 10 would actually go inside and of which maybe 1 would injure someone it's much smarter to drop one of these and move on to next one:
ALAMO wrote:You are getting more and more clown mode
Is this supposed to impress me? Because I've seen way superior ones, Nazi-free on top
Ukraine is certified Nazi shithole way past any possible salvaging
Only thing that can be done now is to reset it back to pleistocene level and call it a day
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It's easy to say to bomb all Ukraine. A bit more harder to push the buttons and kill actual people.
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Dumping fuel on it is hilarious. Well done. But some reports are saying that the su 27 hit the propeller? With what , the nose cone? Dunno about that. Maybe the US doesn't want everyone to know that all you have to do is dump fuel on these drones to eliminate them. They probably didn't even fly very close to them to get the fuel on them. Which the engine most likely ingested and completely fuct things up. It isn't illegal to dump fuel over the sea in international waters. Oh there was a Reaper drone down wind? That's a shame. Very Happy wrote:
Would be even funnier if the dumped fuel and lit the burners lol. The MQ9 is only 2000 KG. My guess is an sU-27 can take it down with wake turbulance. let alone afterburners etc.
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Not sure about this
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According to the published recordings of radio conversations of Russian pilots, there is reason to believe that the wreckage of the American MQ-9 Reaper UAV that fell into the Black Sea was picked up by the Russian military.
Dumping fuel on US ships was used by a Su-27 pilot many, many years ago to dissuade them from getting too close to Russia, in the days when NATO ships sailed in Russian water, in the Arctic during the Cold War. It worked, they stopped as Kerosene is horrible stuff.
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Translated:
Since the U.S. accused a Russian fighter pilot of leaking kerosene to an American drone in the air, it is hard not to recall the story of Vasily Tsymbal.
Rain of stinky kerosene...
Vasya Tsymbal was a graduate of the Armavir Aviation School and, like all the guys from there, was famous for his ability to accurately perform the assigned combat tasks, though... Not quite standard and, I would even say, very unorthodox approaches. His favorite trick was the tricks with the fuel.
Another such stunt just happened in the Far East, when one of the Japanese patrol boats (with a couple of helicopters on it - a kind of unofficial aircraft carrier) crossed the border between neutral waters and Soviet territory. Unfortunately for the Japanese, Vasya Tsymbal was in the sky, and he quickly figured out what to do. Having made a couple of low-altitude turns over the ship, he made sure that it was not going to change its course and decided to try and frighten the uninvited guests. Ascending to a higher altitude, he turned and began to dive at the Japanese. The Japanese were frightened - the provocation went too far, and no one knew whether the Soviet pilot was ordered to attack.
In the end Tsymbal flew at cruising speed 5-6 meters above the deck and literally blew one of the helicopters into the water, and then, apparently in a wave of excitement, said to the airwaves in a short but succinct voice: "**** the kitty!" The Japanese, hearing one of the most expressive expressions of Russian swear words, turned the ship 180 degrees and gave full speed. But that was not enough for the show-off Vasya. While the Japanese ship was in Soviet waters, Vasya decided to practice his favorite trick. Flying over the cuckoo's nest of unhappy provocateurs, Tsymbal turned on the fuel drain and showered kerosene rain on the military of the Land of the Rising Sun. The descendants of the samurai could not stand such disgrace and in droves ran to make hara-kiri to complain to their superiors.
Almost immediately after Vasya's return to the base, they call him to the carpet (the base heard everything too) and, upon learning the details, they breathe a sigh of relief - thank God, no one was killed - and send him to the other end of the country, so that, if anything happens, they can say that "the pilot is not ours" and "he left for Murmansk two weeks ago".
Once in the north, Vasiliy Tsymbal did not change his habits. In September '87, however, it was always turbulent near the Kola Peninsula - American and Norwegian NATO pilots were flying quite often, several times a day entering Soviet airspace, and aircraft carriers, from which these planes were taking off, were plowing through the Barents Sea. When Vasya ran to his faithful Su-27 for the seventh time in 24 hours, putting on his helmet on the way... Probably he wanted very much to use lethal fire and nuclear missiles to be sure.
But no appropriate orders were given, and Tsymbal was left with only his good old trick. After coaxing his comrade, he joined him in making the Americans rain stinking kerosene. Strange as it may seem, it helped a lot - the Yankees began to appear in the region considerably less. And there were no repercussions for Basil.
(c) by Timothy Berdikin
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Forte 10 left station and returned to sicily this morning. Forte 10 is an RQ-4 indeed.
The RQ-4's are based in sicily, Italy at the Sigonella air base.google coordinates: 37.40751969977022, 14.91365078618334
i did not spot another inbound RQ-4 to take over Forte 10, An U.S poseidon took up survaillance over the romanian coast.
The U.S have an Reaper base in Romania. called Campia Turzii Air Base.
here are the google coordinates with Reapers on the taxiways:46.50412622354174, 23.88740146251178
I did not see any Reapers leaving the airbase, but that just means there where no active transponders anyway.
So it is plausible it was an Reaper instead of an RQ-4.
I rather wait and watch what the Russian Navy pulls out of the sea to be sure.
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