Russian special military operation in Ukraine #40

Of course they have and of course they will.

Good luck doing that at a supposed 60 miles off the Crimean coast with probably a RuN ship sitting on top.This must be the USAF sea water wipe method.

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The U.S. Department of Defense is taking all measures possible to prevent the MQ-9 Reaper Drone that Crashed today in the Black Sea from falling into Russian Hands; they have reportedly already Remotely Wiped any Software from the Drone and are considering Recovery Operations.

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It was 60 kilometers southwest of Sevastopol

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/37294

  It is reported that Russian sailors conducted a search operation and were able to recover some parts of the American MQ-9A drone that crashed at 9:28 a.m. today in the Black Sea.

The fact that the Reaper itself got very close to Crimea and was 60 kilometers southwest of Sevastopol before it went down played in our favor, allowing our units to quietly retrieve the wreckage.

The Romanian helicopters attempted to fly to the crash site, but after flying a little over 100 km, they turned back to base. The G-550 and P-8A Poseidon aircraft flew to the coast of the Black Sea to monitor the situation.


EDIT 2 from MoA poster

Another speculative viewpoint.
Was there any fuel dump or touching at all?. From the track on Flightradar24, the drone was on a straight line trajectory until opposite Crimea, it then turned and headed straight for Sevastopol. Finally hitting the water about 60 km away.
Second revelation by the Pentagon is that the Russians were next to the drone for about 30-40 minutes.
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The Russians claim that nothing was touched and do not mention fuel spraying.

Did the Russians try to take over the drone by hacking as the Iranians did sometime back?. ... and the only alternative the US could find was to "suicide" the drone into the sea to give them time to trash the software. (They did that anyway but may have needed more time)

There aren't any historic abbeys in Ukraine (don't really see why that shit would matter anyway, it's Ukraine)

And if Ukrainians are still alive after first pass just give it another one and another one after that to hammer the point home

Things never work when you halfass it and give up halfway through

Unless Russia really is running low on ordinance?

The point is that it wasn't fortified and did not have any enemy troops in it when they hit it the first time and they hit it very very hard... and then the Germans moved into the ruins and they hit it hard several more times and then tried to take it with a ground assault and failed miserably multiple times.

Neither bombardment nor ground assault were effective, so claiming hitting it over and over would be like claiming the western strategic bombing campaign of WWII had any effect other than killing women and children and old people, while the Soviets fought the german soldiers on the front lines.

Western strategic bombing would never have won the war even if it continued for 100 years... it simply was not effective.

Hey Garry, seems like the Grom 31 you guys used failed to hit its target by a mile just like your FAB 500. Hit the bricks pal you might end up bombing Moscow.

Interesting that you quote me talking about an avionics upgrade to raise the accuracy of bombing with cheap dumb bombs to the level of guided weapons and then show what is claimed to be a guided glide bomb with no context of where it is or what happened and then claimed Russian bombing accuracy is as bad as US bombing performance in WWII.

What do you think this proves exactly?

Some weapons get shot down, some hit their target but get photographed from angles so you can't tell it impacted in the middle of a tank factory... it is a new weapon and they are just getting some real practise with it in a realistic testing ground.

Experience in this conflict will only make Russian weapons and tactics more effective... while the west ferments in its own stew of arrogance and inflated opinion of itself...

Even if the missiles failed, so what? We (US) Have had missiles miss too, it happens. There are many examples of Russian incompetence in this war, so dunno why you choose to brag about something that's more a malfunction or even a test flight gone bad

All three images of this impact are zoomed in so you can't see where it hit or what it might have been aimed at, from an account known to sell Kievs lies and bullshit.

Hopefully then the pilot set light to it, sorry turned the afterburner on which accidentally ignited the dumped fuel thumbsup Or, more likely it just ignited on the MQ-9's hot exhaust. If so what a brilliant plan, downed the MQ-9 without actually attacking it. Clearly an unfortunate accident. I wonder how the US knows what happened.

Obviously someone in the US State Department discussed it with officials that have nothing to do with the situation or information about what actually happened and together they decided that the best story for them to release was this...

It's comparable i guess to the 90s vintage JSOW glide bombs. Better very late than never i suppose.

GROM is a glide bomb that comes in two versions... one with a bomb payload and a rocket motor section to hit targets 100km+ away and another version with the rocket motor replaced with more HE for a bigger boom that can glide to targets 40km away...

And how does this stop it from dropping into the trench?

Plus I'm still waiting on reason why they shouldn't use it

The same thing that stops molotov cocktails from being effective from armoured vehicles... proper bunkers have positive pressure systems in their ventilation systems which prevents liquids coming in... which also stops them filling up with water when it rains.

Thermobarics are different, especially the Russian ones.... the fuel is spread in the local air around the target but explodes from the centre outwards so the blast wave blows the fuel outwards and as it expands it moves through more air providing more oxygen as it detonates... it explodes... it does not burn like a flamethrowers fuel... it explodes like petrol heated to its flashpoint...

Ukraine is also full of civilians that just want better life standard like anyone else.

It's easy to say to bomb all Ukraine. A bit more harder to push the buttons and kill actual people.

Harder for humans, but easy for psychopaths, which is why they prefer the latter to fly their drones and have problems when they find their drone operations are human.

There are claims out there that the Russians actually downed a Global Hawk, FORTE-10, not a Reaper, 18 miles off the Crimean coast. Waiting to see if one of the Flight Tracker sites comes up with this. Saying its a Reaper to reduce impact.

The Russians said it had its transponders turned off... therefore it was a danger to air traffic in the region and they should have shot it down.

JSOW is an expensive gliding guided bomb.

It was a brand new design related to no previous weapon.

GROM is based on the body of the Kh-38 air to surface missile and comes in an all HE gliding guided bomb configuration, similar to JSOW, but it also comes in the rocket boosted version with extended attack range which the JSOW model was cancelled.

The wiki page mentions JSOW and its use in Feb 2001 where every weapon missed its target because of a software problem... amusing...

They stopped using JSOWs so they could have more JIZZMs....

The US is already thinking about a real NATO-Russia conventional war.

The drone in question has a tail mounted pusher propeller so for the Russian pilots to have hit the prop they would have to ram it from behind... which would be a real risk to the flanker pilot because coming from behind and hitting it in the rear with your nose or wing puts drone prop fragments very close to the flankers two main air intakes under the body of the aircraft.

The Russian description seems rational, a contact was detected with its transponders turned off so it would be visible to military radar but not visible to civilian radar and civilian air traffic, which represents a real threat to military and civilian aircraft operating in the area... the US is giving Kiev new equipment all the time... how was Russia to know it wasn't being used by Kiev to mount an attack on Crimea, Kiev and the US have mentioned attacks on Crimea and Russia multiple times.

The US account is emotive and uses the same language they use every time a country contests their right to do anything they please thousands of kms away from their own air space... which has become easy to ignore really.

Such drones are relatively fragile and whether it was jet wash from a fighter flying past or the drone itself tried to perform evasive manouvers we may never know.

It will likely just be added to the collection.

Parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are trying to retreat from Artemovsk along country roads, 03.15.2023.

Pushilin's adviser Gagin: units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are trying to retreat from Artemovsk along country roads.

MOSCOW, March 15 - RIA Novosti. Scattered Ukrainian units are trying to retreat from Artemovsk along country roads, said Jan Gagin, adviser to the acting head of the DPR, on the air of the Rossiya 24 TV channel.

"Periodically, some scattered units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine try to retreat from Artemovsk . Due to the fact that the roads are controlled, they try to retreat along country roads or fields, through forest plantations," he said.

At the same time, due to the spring thaw, equipment cannot pass through the mud and the Ukrainian military has to retreat on foot. They suffer serious losses, and equipment becomes an easy target, Gagin added.

According to him, Ukrainian troops regularly attempt counteroffensives, but all of them are stopped.

https://ria.ru/20230315/artemovsk-1857966352.html

Operating at relatively high altitude, with jet aircraft blowing past it at high speed a subsonic platform like this drone would be like a U2 which could get into a spin or other difficult flight position from which it could not recover.

I would discount most of the information from the US side, they lie so much I think they would do it automatically as a habit, so they are not credible.

Prigozin confirmed Zaliznanske taken.

48.70129001038017, 37.9386262928887

They are 1/3 way up to Slaviansk/Krematorsk.

Red handed!