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    Post  Sujoy Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:56 pm

    NATO is demanding that Russia vacate Crimea because according to them Crimea has been occupied by Russia.

    If Russia has to vacate Crimea because it is occupied, why don't Europeans vacate US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand because these countries are also occupied?

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    Post  nomadski Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:25 pm




    https://www.theweather.com/weather-maps/viento-europ.html


    Worried about DU ? Well they are allowing atmospheric tests . All you need to know is the wind direction !


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    Post  kvs Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:41 pm

    DU rounds fit the brain capacity of NATzO planners because their tanks don't have reactive armour. There is no particular advantage of
    the DU rounds against APS. Of course, the characteristics of the APS matter.

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    Post  kvs Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:45 pm

    @Sujoy,

    The US should vacate northern Syria first.

    It should then vacate Guantanamo Bay.

    If territorial division is illegal, then so is territorial merger. Nobody asked the millions of ethnic Russians about what they wanted when the Bolsheviks
    concocted Ukraine in the 1920s. Western Ukraine where the Uniates live and who have a Polishified culture and language is real Ukraine.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:46 pm

    The use of uranium ammunition is a violation of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

    Russia should demonstrate a fake heavy fallout explosion near the Polish border with strong westerly winds and should really use uranium ammunition by Ukraine using a dirty bomb very near the Polish border. Not with a lot of uranium dust, but the message is unmistakable!

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:03 pm

    Seems that something has landed at Odessa airport ...

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    But didn't stay there for long ...

    BTW, Dima and Lavrov looked like this at today's meeting :

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:19 pm





    Russia should demonstrate a fake heavy fallout explosion near the Polish border with strong westerly winds and should really use uranium ammunition by Ukraine using a dirty bomb very near the Polish border. Not with a lot of uranium dust, but the message is unmistakable! wrote:


    Are  you deranged?


    Thousands of our people fought against the Ukrainian nationalists during the 1940's, only for some retarded Soviets to install their compatriots to rule over Poland, with the consequences we see today.

    Do not mistake the so-called "Polish" government with the real ethnic Poles.



    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/460/land-zamosc-zamojszczyzna-1942-1944


    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html



    Shove that bomb up your own ass.

    Aside from this, it is not Poland who has depleted uranium ammunition; therefore, I suggest you dispatch the bomb to the actual donors.



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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:26 pm

    Uranium dust is no longer fun. If NATO delivers that, the oh-so-democratic peoples of NATO are to blame themselves if they don't finally stop their madmen! If NATO uses uranium ammunition via the Ukrainian army, there must be a nuclear response, even if it is only the smallest measurable amounts!

    That shows exactly what Putin always said to Russia. NATO supplies the fascists, their proxies, with everything, with weapons. They're not even in NATO. The red line has long been crossed. Either the zombies finally taste their own dirt, or these zombies win this fight!

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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:28 pm

    Caption for Putin and Xi photo, "the adults are in the room."

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:48 pm

    Hole wrote:Possible use of uranium-core projectiles by Kiev for Leopard 2 tanks
    will be considered as the use of dirty nuclear bombs - head of the
    Russian delegation at the talks in Vienna on military security and
    arms control Konstantin Gavrilov

    Instead of throwing around empty threats why aren't Russians already using these same projectiles?




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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:55 pm

    The reason is that the Russians care about these lands, the people, their future.

    You don't contanimate it with mutagens if you intend to govern it in the future. UA doesn't give a damn about the people of Donbass, neither does the west, see.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:08 pm

    According to memorandum of Russo Chinese economic cooperation

    The level of gas supplied to China will increase to 100BCM by 2030

    That is excellent, 155 BCM was supplied to EU at height of gas delivery

    European revenue is fully being substituted and is a moot point

    Any income from EU will be chump change compared to Chinese trade -

    Turkish gas deliveries reached 12BCM , and will be at 30 BCM by 2025

    Coupled with LNG delivery by tanker and oil deliveries to China, now surpassing Saudi Arabia for #1 exporting nation to China,

    The EU is a thing of the past

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    Post  Airbornewolf Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:20 pm

    reading some of the comments on this thread here. Shocked ....

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    Post  Arrow Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:46 pm

    BMP 3 production. Any estimates of how much they make each month?

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    Post  Hole Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:56 pm

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:13 pm

    @200_zoka
    Commander of logistics forces of Ukrainian Navy Rear Admiral Igor Stupnitsky staunchly defends his homeland in one of saunas in Odessa
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    Post  Regular Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:24 pm

    PD wrote:


    Instead of throwing around empty threats why aren't Russians already using these same projectiles?

    Same? Russians definitely use uranium penetrators, like old 3BM-32, but most modern Russian penetrators are composite/ceramic based. 

    Any tank wreck is potentially contaminated at this stage, Ukrainians also already use DU rounds, they have their own too, both Soviet legacy and their own Zubr


    Ukr commander in sauna with a woman

    Old picture, pre-smo, his wife. Better aim at Zaluzhny who seduces models from Instagram during the war. His wife must love his dedication

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    Post  diabetus Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:14 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:The reason is that the Russians care about these lands, the people, their future.

    You don't contanimate it with mutagens if you intend to govern it in the future. UA doesn't give a damn about the people of Donbass, neither does the west, see.

    It has nothing to do with that. Old rounds are sufficient for dealing with any Ukrainian armor. No need for DU penetrators. If they were necessary for a new threat, they would be used.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:05 am

    If people still are debating using DU, or some kind of "response" along these lines in Ukraine.
    it rather surprises me how casually some people mention this.

    You guys really want to see some man-made Hell on Earth?.
    Go search up Fallujah, how it was riddled with American DU munitions and google the birth defects.

    It is about in line with what the Vietnamese still have to deal with today, after Americans sprayed agent orange everywhere.

    This is just the West it's playbook, if they can not have it. it will be destroyed forever.
    everyone here now complaining wanted a showdown between the RF and NATO.
    Well here we are, you got it.
    It is really time to grow a spine, keep your calm and get ready as this war is not over yet.

    All the dirty NATO tricks will come out of the closet and the Kiev Nazi's will execute it without a second guess.
    Even the Poles (at least their army and politicians) are so retarded. they never listened to us guys during exercises the Americans where planning the same with turning their country in an irradiated wasteland.

    This DU shit you can not clean up, it stays in the ground for generations.
    it crawls literally into everywhere, water, food chain. etc.
    You can not do this, under any circumstance.
    The war will end somewhere and this shit will remain for a long time.

    Again, Remember. The West/NATO does grab to the NBC weaponry when they can not win conventionally. I hate their guts for what they done in the middle east.
    Why cant some here to think this trough for a moment to realize they start to sound like the Entity's they so much hate?.

    The RF has non-NBC answers to this. But for now it is just talk by some dumb English politician talking about DU that battles with some dumb polish politician about moving into Ukraine to fight Russia, in an penis measuring contest about who can state the most ridiculous things.

    In time, we will see if RF forces encounter these DU rounds. And what the RF response will be.

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    Post  kvs Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:08 am

    Use of actual nuclear weapons is preferable in terms of contamination. The fission cores are small relative to the blast and the residual
    strontium and cesium with some heavier isotopes does not begin to approach the mass of DU sabots deployed in shells.

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    Post  Broski Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:46 am

    In all seriousness, if (when) the UkroNazi retards starts using DU rounds on the battlefield, what can Russia do about it other than destroy the tanks firing these rounds? Are they going to drop a tactical nuclear warhead in Kiev or Lviv in retaliation?
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:08 am

    Apologies for re-posting the photo but its just too good. Look at L and M's faces in the background. Everyone in that photo is smiling.  thumbsup

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    Post  Regular Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:44 am

    Broski wrote:


    In all seriousness, if (when) the UkroNazi retards starts using DU rounds on the battlefield, what can Russia do about it other than destroy the tanks firing these rounds? Are they going to drop a tactical nuclear warhead in Kiev or Lviv in retaliation?

    What makes you think they don’t use their soviet uranium and domestic rounds already? They would use tactical nukes if they could
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    Post  franco Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:46 am

    Arrow Today at 4:46 pm
    BMP 3 production. Any estimates of how much they make each month?

    Probably 20-25 units of all types over the last few years. Sure they are revving up now.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:07 am

    Russia's fault honestly, for the DU rounds. They keep pussy footing with this war, they keep giving time for these things to happen and occur DU rounds were always coming, just a matter of time.

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