Russian special military operation in Ukraine #41

Hole quoted " MOSCOW-BASED MILITARY EXPERT MARAT KHYRULIN: THE GOAL NOW IS TO KILL AS MANY UKRAINIAN UNITS AS POSSIBLE , " I disagree . This is the second or third time that Russian troops have been restrained in launching offensives in LDPR region , when the odds seemed to be in their favour . The objective is not killing but liberating territory as quickly as possible , with minimal loss of life to one and therefore both sides .

There is no logical reason why pincers can not close , since Russian troops are easily able to advance the pincers against UKrs resistance . Something , that I have no doubt , they would resist fiercely , since it would mean the capture of territory . Therefore they have not the force necessary to resist the closing of pincers . And Russia has the force needed to close them and liberate territory , as it should .

I am continuing to think that , there is political problems with military command , or interferences . Sure the people of region did need military intervention to free them from Nazi extremists . But are the Russian apparatus capable ( more a case of willingness ) to remove Nazis and liberate territory ? Or are they engaged in their version of the MIC , and bureaucracy ? If this is the case , then immediate cease-fire and negotiations are much better than the meat-grinder ( necessarily involves some Russian meat too ) .

"Confirmed" Russian casualties?  How are they "confirmed"?

Maybe someone asked Ben Wallis, the UK sec def?  

Fuktards.  Any "estimates" of Russian losses that quote these sorts of absurd numbers are just stupid nonsense told by fools and liars.

For comparison: in the first 15 months of operation in Syria the VVS flew 30.000 missions. In the first 13 months in 404 the VKS flew 140.000 missions.

The cauldrons are still open so that enemy troops can come in and getting killed in an enviroment where the russian side has the clear firepower advantage.
Killing as many enemies now means that you will be able to liberate all the territory you want later without large fighting. The area is already destroyed and
has to be rebuild, moving the fighting to other areas only means that they will be destroyed, too.

Russian soldiers occupied the railway station in Artemovsk, 04.06.2023.

Pushilin's adviser: Russian units occupied the railway station in Artemovsk.

MOSCOW, April 6 - RIA Novosti. Russian units occupied the railway station in Artemovsk, the enemy had to retreat, said Jan Gagin, adviser to the acting head of the DPR, on the air of the Rossiya 1 TV channel.

"Practically the entire city is in the hands of our military. The most important thing is that the AZOM industrial zone has long been liberated by our forces - this was the last difficult frontier. After that, the Bakhmut-1 station was also occupied. After that, the enemy had to somewhat chaotically retreat to poorly prepared lines" , - he said.

Gagin estimated the irretrievable losses of Ukrainian troops in Artemovsk at 15-20 thousand people.

According to him, now the fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can no longer leave the city, since all roads, including those to Chasov Yar, are under the artillery control of Russian forces.

Artyomovsk is located north of Horlivka and is an important transport hub for supplying the Ukrainian group of troops in the Donbass . Fierce battles have been going on outside the city for more than six months.

https://ria.ru/20230406/artemovsk-1863441841.html

More advanced US stuff to test against

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Ukraine will receive experimental weapons from the United States to combat Iranian and Chinese drones used by Russian troops - Defense One

Experimental weapons, according to media reports, will include the following technologies:
Radio-electronic systems - interfere with the normal functioning of drones, forcing them to return to base or change the route;
Drone capture systems - use special predator drones or nets to physically capture enemy drones;
Laser systems - use high-energy lasers to damage or destroy enemy drones;
Kinetic systems - destroy drones with rockets or small arms with ultra-precise control.
8:20 AM · Apr 6, 2023

Some missile porn for ya.

(Obviously not a kh-47M2 which launch from the air)

Heavy presents from the sky, gliding in quietly, make a bigger impression than a mere shell, Shame about the road

I detect some profit

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Armed Forces fighters are preparing to start training on M1 Abrams tanks soon, CNN reports
The Pentagon plans to transfer 31 tanks to Ukraine, the publication refers to a military official

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The Pentagon has signed a $27.1 million contract to train M1 Abrams tanks for Ukraine.

That's using western sources, I'd say Mediazona is the most trustworthy WESTERN source

Which means it's an inflated count, but nonetheless low - if you take Ursula Von Dey Leyen and German Defense Ministry saying Ukraine lost 100,000 men back in December,

The assumption is they're overstating RU losses and understating Ukro losses

But even using their numbers the counts show that the CIA does indeed understand those numbers and raw disparity in casualties and industrial production

Ergo, you can guess what the next moves will be based on their own disclosures - which goes back to the main point, the US won't give Ukraine F16, or Abrams tanks,

It's attempting to stall the war as there's no way to win if it goes on as it is - the US Needs to stage more terror attacks and things of that nature

Not allow Ukraine to exhaust itself , which is basically the Pentagon and Zaluzhny approach vs Syrsky and Zelensky

Zaluzhny understands the east is already lost, but sees value in ceding land , and distracting RU with recon attacks in South and Kharkov

While Syrsky wants to send Leopards and remaining men to Bakhmut - which pentagon is adamantly against, because it would drain Ukraine of any offensive potential

Hole wrote " The cauldrons are still open so that enemy troops can come in and getting killed in an enviroment where the russian side has the clear firepower advantage.Killing as many enemies now means that you will be able to liberate all the territory you want later without large fighting. The area is already destroyed and has to be rebuild, moving the fighting to other areas only means that they will be destroyed, too. "  There is proportionality here ; that means small pincer liberated small area with lower casualties and big pincer liberated big area with bigger casualties . The same tactics can be repeated on small or bigger scale , everything else being equal ( very big pincers are different , since cross- fire can not be done with shorter range weapons , in plentiful supply ) but on smaller scale , there is greater advantage , because short range weapons and direct fire , can criss/ cross the areas and enemy caught in cross fire , but also liberation of smaller area , immediately shortens the frontlines , releasing troops and also the psychological blow is huge . Once pincers close , fresh ones can start in the same area , having the same effect .

You don't want that being dropped on your toes

More FAB launchers are needed

Those glide bombs (new build or old with add-on kit) can be launched by all Su-27SM3, Su-30, Su-34 and Su-35.
Propably the modified Su-24M and the Su-25SM3, too.

And MiG-29's.

Maybe he means glide kits need to be made? I'm assuming those glide kits are rather very cheap and easy to make.

Heavy presents from the sky, gliding in quietly, make a bigger impression than a mere shell, Shame about the road Smile wrote:

FAB 500 has almost 300 kg of explosive vs less then 9 kg for a 152mm round. So bombs make a HUGE difference. Instead of shelling a building, just aim one at the base. They should use FAB 500's on the approaches to bridges that they want to preserve to make it hard to get to the bridge. Meanwhile they can fix the hole with dozers later on.

SU-34 can carry 12 (24 if the have a dual carrier). Imagine it orbiting at 12K m waiting for targets. They can easily keep a couple on station when there is a big push so the attacking troops can deliver 24 hammer blows.

Maybe he means glide kits need to be made? I'm assuming those glide kits are rather very cheap and easy to make. wrote:

One pic i saw there was a kit that is like a bomb mount that attaches where the bomb normally mounts to the plane, then it in turn attaches to the plane and has wings that deploy from a slim frame. Pretty ingenious as it will req almost no changes to bomb handling equipment and training.

Hole quoted " MOSCOW-BASED MILITARY EXPERT MARAT KHYRULIN: THE GOAL NOW IS TO KILL AS MANY UKRAINIAN UNITS AS POSSIBLE , " I disagree . This is the second or third time that Russian troops have been restrained in launching offensives in LDPR region , when the odds seemed to be in their favour . The objective is not killing but liberating territory as quickly as possible , with minimal loss of life to one and therefore both sides . There is no logical reason why pincers can not close , since Russian troops are easily able to advance the pincers against UKrs resistance . Something , that I have no doubt , they would resist fiercely , since it would mean the capture of territory . Therefore they have not the force necessary to resist the closing of pincers . And Russia has the force needed to close them and liberate territory , as it should . I am continuing to think that , there is political problems with military command , or interferences . Sure the people of region did need military intervention to free them from Nazi extremists . But are the Russian apparatus capable ( more a case of willingness ) to remove Nazis and liberate territory ? Or are they engaged in their version of the MIC , and bureaucracy ? If this is the case , then immediate cease-fire and negotiations are much better than the meat-grinder ( necessarily involves some Russian meat too ) . wrote:

That does not make sense to me either, together with many other things, like the ethnic Ukrainian General Zusko not being thrown out of window, while many other people apparently have been "accidented" or "suicided."


The current situation is perhaps similar to the Optimism of the Summer of 2022, and we know what happened afterwards in the environs near the city of Harkov.




I hope it is not a repeat of this.

Russia now produces "dozens of tanks a day" and is going to equip both new and legacy models with hard-kill APS:
https://topwar.ru/214295-minoborony-zainteresovano-v-skorejshem-osnaschenii-rossijskih-tankov-kaz-arena-m.html

Arena-M has completed extensive testing against both Russian and captured Western anti-tank weapons:
https://forpost-sevastopol.ru/newsfull/455808/rosteh-kaz-arenam-na-tanke-t72-uspeshno-proshel-ispytaniya-trofejnymi-boepripasami.html

So that's been one use for the thousands of captured Javelins, NLAWs, PzF3s, AT-4s etc, I guess.

ALAMO wrote:Big boys waiting to be winged ...

Are the M62 high drag models really suitable for that?

Are the M62 high drag models really suitable for that?

M62 is low drag. Picture shows FAB-1500M54.



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