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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:55 pm

    Ah, my bad. Didn't double-check before I wrote.

    Anyway, question still stands.

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    Post  Hole Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:55 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #41 - Page 10 Ftcujf10
    Can´t confirm this.

    Anyway, question still stands.
    Sources claim there is a version of the guided glide kit for heavier bombs.
    The drag is only an issue as long as the bomb is on the plane. These bombs were designed for
    old piston-engine bombers and the first jet bombers, all of which had internal weapons bays so
    drag was no issue at all. Carrying them under the wing reduces the range of the plane, maybe
    the cruise speed has to be lower as well. But for the dropped bombs there should be no problem
    for the guidance kit to bring her home.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:00 pm

    That looks a bit like reversed Wunderwaffe story to me.
    Now everything will fall victim of flying bombs Laughing

    Seriously, I do see the difference - the thing delivers a punch on pair with Iskander, at fraction of the cost.
    Called very accurate, surely won't hit moving targets that Iskander is capable of, but again it is not a Wunderwaffe.
    Just another tool in a giant Russie box.
    Good they have them, that will bring additional war economy to the field.

    Sources claim there is a version of the guided glide kit for heavier bombs.

    Yes there is, and the 1500kh bombs are reportedly even further range.

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    Post  Hole Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:06 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #41 - Page 10 Ftb_dd10
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #41 - Page 10 Scree646
    More bombs
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    Grenades

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:16 pm

    Looks 122 cal to me bro.

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:25 pm

    We can see some fairly large bombs here, FAB300s atleast. What is dropping them?

    Also how many thermobaric bombs have been used?

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    Post  Arrow Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:28 pm

    Mariupol
    https://ok.ru/video/4718914505344

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    Post  Isos Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:35 pm

    First is fab-1500-2600ts. Web sources call it upab 1500 and seems to be a gliding bomb, no fins or wings though so highly unlikely to be the case.

    Second pic is fab-500. This shape is used for high explosive and concrete piercing versions. So can be both.

    Last is artillery rounds.
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    Post  Backman Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:39 pm

    That looks a bit like reversed Wunderwaffe story to me.
    Now everything will fall victim of flying bombs

    Yeah but at the same time , the wunderwaffe meme is more about the inferior party in the war , trying to use a wonder weapon to make up the difference in their inferiority. Which isn't the case here.

    These cheap bombs and a way to get them on target is exactly what Russia needs now.

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    Post  Hole Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:56 pm

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    In the center of Bakhmut

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    Post  Kiko Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:44 pm

    Pushilin pointed to the refocusing of the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Artemivsk to Avdiivka, 04.06.2023.

    Acting Head of the DPR Pushilin: Armed Forces of Ukraine will refocus their forces on Avdiivka, where the RF Armed Forces are successfully advancing.

    The Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) are currently trying to refocus their forces from Artemovsk (Ukrainian name - Bakhmut) to Avdiivka near Donetsk, where the Russian troops are successfully advancing. This was pointed out on Thursday, April 6, by the acting (acting) head of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) Denis Pushilin.

    “Now they are trying to gradually refocus their attention from Artemivsk to Avdiivka. <...> There, our units are moving quite successfully. The first army corps, the guys there are directly specialists, they sometimes do the impossible, ”Pushilin said on the air of the Rossiya-1 TV channel .

    Two days earlier, on April 4, Izvestia correspondent Alexander Safiulin showed combat footage of Russian Armed Forces mortarmen from the Tiger detachment near Avdiivka.

    One of the soldiers said that at the moment their unit is performing the task of "aggressive defense." According to him, the crew on duty supports the infantry, searches for active targets, observes the movements of the enemy and pinpointly covers strongholds.

    The day before, on April 3, Pushilin reported that the Russian Armed Forces were creating a difficult situation for the enemy in the Avdeevka direction and were moving forward. According to him, Russian units are blocking the road to Avdiivka for Ukrainian troops, thereby preventing the Armed Forces of Ukraine from carrying out offensive actions.

    Russia continues a special operation to protect the Donbass , whose residents refused to recognize the results of the 2014 coup d'état in Ukraine . The decision to start it was made on February 24, 2022 against the background of the aggravation of the situation in the region due to shelling by Ukrainian troops.

    https://iz.ru/1494785/2023-04-06/pushilin-ukazal-na-perefokusirovku-sil-vsu-s-artemovska-na-avdeevku

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:48 pm

    Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation (06.04.2023)

    ◽ In the Kupyansk direction, assault and army aviation strikes and artillery fire of the "Western" grouping of troops defeated enemy units in the areas of Dvurechnaya, Peschanoye and Masyutovka in the Kharkiv region. In addition, in the areas of Novoselovskoye, Artemivka of the Luhansk People's Republic and Pershotravneve of the Kharkiv region, the actions of three sabotage and reconnaissance groups of the Ukrainian armed forces were suppressed. During the day more than 50 Ukrainian servicemen, two armored fighting vehicles, two vehicles, as well as a US-made AN/TPQ-36 counter-battery radar station were destroyed in this direction.

    ◽ In addition, today at about 8:30 a.m., units of the Western Military District State Border Guard together with a border guard unit of the Federal Security Service of Russia's Bryansk Oblast Border Guard Department thwarted an attempt to enter the territory of the Russian Federation by a sabotage and reconnaissance group of over 15 fighters near the settlement of Sluchaevsk, Bryansk Oblast.

    💥 The enemy was defeated by artillery fire of the Western Military District. The sabotage group was dispersed and, after suffering losses, withdrew to the territory of Ukraine. There were no casualties among Russian servicemen.

    ◽ In the Krasno-Limansky direction, artillery fire and heavy flamethrower systems of the Center Group of Forces hit AFU units in the areas of Chervonaya Dibrova and Chervonopopovka settlements of the Luhansk People's Republic. Up to 80 Ukrainian servicemen, two armored fighting vehicles, three vehicles, a Gvozdika self-propelled howitzer, a Nona self-propelled mortar, and D-20 and D-30 howitzers were destroyed.

    ◽ In the Donetsk direction, more than 140 Ukrainian servicemen were destroyed during active actions of units, strikes of operational and tactical aviation, artillery fire and heavy flamethrower systems of the "Southern" group of troops during the day, three armored combat vehicles, eight vehicles, a Polish-made Krab self-propelled artillery unit, Gvozdika and Acacia self-propelled howitzers, a D-20 howitzer, and a US-made AN/TPQ-50 counter-battery radar station.

    💥 In addition, a warehouse of rocket and artillery weapons of the 107th AFU Reaction Brigade was destroyed near the village of Sergeyevka in the Donetsk People's Republic.

    ◽ On the South Donetsk and Zaporizhzhya directions, operational and tactical aviation strikes and artillery fire of the Vostok Group of Forces hit AFU units near the settlements of Ugledar in the Donetsk People's Republic, Marfopol and Zahornoye in the Zaporizhzhya region.

    💥 In addition, an attempt by an enemy assault group to counterattack in the direction of Vodyane and Nikolskoye settlements of the Donetsk People's Republic was foiled. During the day, up to 35 Ukrainian servicemen, two armored combat vehicles, two pickup trucks, as well as D-20 and D-30 howitzers were destroyed in these directions.

    ◽ In the Kherson direction, up to 20 Ukrainian servicemen, two vehicles and an Acacia self-propelled howitzer were destroyed in the course of the day.

    💥 Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery of groups of troops (forces) of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation during the day hit 92 artillery units of the AFU at firing positions, manpower and equipment in 128 areas.

    💥 The command post of the 110th mechanized brigade of the AFU was hit near Avdeevka settlement of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    💥 The air defense forces intercepted eleven HIMARS rockets.

    💥 In addition, eleven Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles were destroyed in the areas of Tavolzhanka (Kharkiv Region), Kreminna and Kovalevka (Luhansk People's Republic), Nikolskoye, Novoselovka and Peski (Donetsk People's Republic).

    ***

    ◽ The Kiev regime deliberately destroys its servicemen with artillery fire to prevent attempts to abandon their positions and retreat under the onslaught of Russian forces.

    ◽ On April 5 this year, units of the "Southern" grouping of troops in the vicinity of Avdeevka, Donetsk People's Republic, were actively engaged in capturing the enemy's stronghold.

    ◽ During the battle, the commander of the unit of the 53rd mechanized brigade of the AFU that was at the stronghold appealed to the Russian command via an open radio channel, stating that his unit of 14 men voluntarily laid down their weapons and wished to surrender.

    ◽ The Russian group suspended combat operations and completely ceased fire in order to ensure the safe exit of the Ukrainian soldiers from the occupied stronghold.

    ◽ Given the dark time of day, the Ukrainian servicemen were placed in a dugout until morning for subsequent removal to the Russian grouping's rear area.

    ◽ At night, Ukrainian artillery deliberately opened a barrage of fire on the dugout where the surrendered Ukrainian servicemen were located. About three hundred large-caliber shells were fired.

    ◽ As a result of the deliberate strike by the AFU artillery, all fourteen surrendering Ukrainian servicemen were killed.

    📊 In total, since the beginning of the special military operation destroyed (losses over previous 24hrs(+?)):
    406 aircraft, (Daily avg 1.0)
    228 helicopters, (Daily avg 0.6)
    3,684(+11) unmanned aerial vehicles, (Daily avg 9.1)
    415 surface-to-air missile systems, (Daily avg 1.0)
    8,554(+9) tanks and other armored combat vehicles, (Daily avg 21.1)
    1,078 multiple rocket launchers, (Daily avg 2.7)
    4,515(+11) field artillery and mortars, (Daily avg 11.2) and
    9,319(+17) special military vehicles. (Daily avg 23.1)

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:07 am

    MI6 transmitted intelligence to the Office of the President and the General Staff that Russia continues to form reserves in the Crimea and the Rostov region, designed to repel the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. British intelligence believes that there are now 100,000 Russian troops and several thousand tanks and self-propelled guns near the borders with Ukraine, which do not take part in hostilities.


    https://t.me/rezident_ua/17190

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:24 am

    After years of serious neglect by Ukraine, and the additional crisis since 2014, the Lugansk aviation repair factory (LARZ) finslly got back into business with full Russian support.

    https://lug-info.com/news/luganskij-aviaremontnyj-zavod-provel-pervoe-s-2014-goda-ispytanie-vertoletnogo-dvigatelya

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    Post  Backman Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:19 am

    ^ This is important for rebuilding. Return of real productive industry. And not just building new apartments. This will also help suck human capital out of western Ukraine.

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    Post  lancelot Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:03 am

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/06/us/politics/ukraine-war-plan-russia.html
    Ukraine War Plans Leak Prompts Pentagon Investigation

    Classified documents detailing secret American and NATO plans have appeared on Twitter and Telegram.

    April 6, 2023

    WASHINGTON — Classified war documents detailing secret American and NATO plans for building up the Ukrainian military ahead of a planned offensive against Russia were posted this week on social media channels, senior Biden administration officials said.
    ...
    Biden officials were working to get them deleted but had not, as of Thursday evening, succeeded.
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    one of the slides said 16,000 to 17,500 Russian soldiers had been killed while Ukraine had suffered as many as 71,500 troop deaths.
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    Another document includes columns that list Ukrainian troop units, equipment and training, with schedules for January through April. The document contains a summary of 12 combat brigades that are being assembled, with nine of them apparently being trained and supplied by the United States and other NATO allies. Of those nine brigades, the documents said that six would be ready by March 31 and the rest by April 30. A Ukrainian brigade has about 4,000 to 5,000 soldiers, analysts said.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:07 am

    Have there been any updates you are aware of with regard to su34 ?

    How many su34 have been produced since AMCXXL gave that news that new squadron was refilled for new Leningrad regiment for Finns?

    I'd like to see those mig29 brought back for FAB delivery

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    Post  Backman Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:52 am

    About all this leak BS.

    Could have been leaked on purpose by the ukes to mislead the z forces. The NYT said the leaks were legit. Yeah. When does the US propaganda sheets ever come out and authenticate leaks?

    The open admission of large numbers of skeleton brigades with virtually no internal info about them on the nato end seems like BS. Plus the casualty numbers are ridiculous

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:37 am

    It isn't a leak. It's intentional bullshit being pushed out there to drive a narrative they want. Dead giveaway is number of dead Ukrainians.

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    Post  Mir Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:25 am

    Modern day precision bombing Smile

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:32 am

    There are several films documenting how they drop a grenade into burzhuyka exhaust or a vent pipe.
    Shock Shocked

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    Post  Mir Fri Apr 07, 2023 9:03 am

    The best defense against these pesky mosquitos is to stick a "return to sender" notice on it. Laughing

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Apr 07, 2023 9:18 am

    Some of the ECM suits made for fighting drones make a forceful "return to base" program execution.
    As every commercial drone of some sort of quality has this feature, it can be used against them.

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    Post  Backman Fri Apr 07, 2023 9:26 am

    Telegram

    At this moment, there is a full-scale assault on Pervomaisky, west of Donetsk.

    Z forces broke through the enemy defenses. The enemy hastily retreats, leaving the dead and wounded behind.

    It is reported that a large number of armored vehicles were destroyed.

    The enemy retreated to the western outskirts of the settlement.

    Enemy resources confirm our advance.

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    Post  Isos Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:43 am

    The more precise you are the less powerful bombs you need. A grenade in a tank is gonna damage it way more than a fab-500 that lands 200m away.

    Civilian drones with grenades are a danger for everything, specially air forces. You don't need more to destroy any plane on the ground.

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