Russian special military operation in Ukraine #41

He is at it again

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This is how Medvedev responded to German Defense Minister Pistorius, who considered it "absolutely normal" to conduct UAF operations on Russian territory.

Is this a top quality US 6x6 logistics truck? The cab looks like the HIMARS cab.

In response to Stoltenberg yesterday saying all NATO allies wanted Ukraine in as a member. Could be a good fake but probably on the money.

Note that Russia admitted it was an eff up immediately.

Ukraine still vehemently denies all 100% obvious instances of their own SAMs hitting various, erm, unintended "targets."

Nobody calls them out on it. Worse even, even a year on some of their indisputable AD f**k-ups are still subject to the standard "it was an evil Russian strike" treatment and still get reiterated as such by western media.

Kinda like how the hundreds of fully documented and indeed, often directly admitted war crimes (torture, summary executions etc) by UA forces are like "didn't happen" and everyone goes along with it. Ridiculous.

This while that one decapitation video with a still unclear backstory caused immediate, immeasurable outrage everywhere, the allegations were acknowledged by Russian officials and Russian military prosecutors announced they'd launch an investigation immediately.

The kind of carte blanche environment UA has been provided with, enjoys and very much openly abuses is mindblowing.

I totally agree with you, and have to tell you that this has been ongoing for many years now, even from before 2014, and Putin is himself to a large degree responsible for that.



http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/264/georgian-losses-reports


http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/302/ukraine-participated-invasion-south-ossetia



Do not worry about it, your "chivalry" will not be reciprocated.

In fact such behavior will only embolden them and make their behavior towards Russians and others they hate even worse.



They have also done it to the Poles, had no problem exterminating entire ethnic Polish villages and towns without any regard to age and sex, but when the Polish partisans destroyed a couple of Ukrainian nationalist villages-strongholds they were openly branded as "war criminals" and a whole smear media campaign was launched in Poland by the ruling German-Ukrainian mafia.

Poles have been enduring such treatment from them for a long time.


http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html

I'm aware. It was like this in 2008, but while this one sided propaganda prevailed during the hostilities, a few months after the conflict back then you had SOME western outlets (notably the BBC) that did criticize Saakashvili and highlighted the countless Georgian lies.

Shortly after that, it seems like instructions were handed down not to in any way lend credence to anything Russia was saying (even when obviously true), and to provide full cover for any Russian "adversary".

The coverage of Maidan late-2013-2014 demonstrated this in full force. It was absolutely bizarre to observe how documented events damning to the "Russian adversary", or just things that lended some nuance to it all were rapidly memory holed, literally in real time, and everything else twisted around.

It's continued like that ever since.

The coverage of the Syrian conflict was very one-sided from the get go, but it got worse. It immediately went full 1984-style once Russia intervened in 2015. Now, it seems nobody is reflecting over it, the barrage of "Aleppo holocaust"-type agitprop etc. When it couldn't be maintained anymore (ie when troublesome truths became too evident to ignore), it was promptly, deliberately forgotten about. No follow-ups allowed.

I was not really talking about the Georgians - and I am very curious when the BBC talked about their lies because I remember nothing of the sort - but about the confirmed instances of the Ukrainians fighting on the Georgian side, and Putin still treating Ukraine in a very kind, friendly, and warm way.

Putin's love for the ethnic Ukrainians looks unending and unwavering.


Look what his beloved had done in the past:

https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/over-100000-slaughtered-with-axes-pitchforks-scythes-and-knives-the-wolyn-massacre-started-76-years-ago-today-and-lasted-for-two-years-6714




Not long ago some Serb wrote that "the sooner someone kills Putin the better it is for Russia and Russians" and I agree.

Ukraine still vehemently denies all 100% obvious instances of their own SAMs hitting various, erm, unintended "targets."

Yes, sure, but there is quite an interesting pattern in all our local shitstream stories.
Each time when they inform about heart-touching civilian victims, a kid, a teenager, two teenagers - in most of the cases there is supplementary info about "Russia used S-300 missiles".
The thing could have been considered actually funny, if not for the fact that it is a tragic act, first of all, carried by an inhuman regime that cares a shit about its own citizens.
Because if anyone keeps that in mind, the whole thing is simply shocking.

Here is the order of battle for the Russian invasion Wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_battle_for_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine It lists all the battalion tactical groups that took part in the invasion. Add them all up and you get around 68 battalion tactical groups.

Here is the Wiki page for the Russian battalion tactical group: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battalion_tactical_group It says that each BTG is comprised of 800 soldiers.

Add them up and you get 54,400 regular Russian soldiers. It lists 10's of 1000's of Donbas & Luhansk militia on the same page.

As Paul Craig Roberts asked recently, where is the Russian army ? This doesn't seem to add up. But I am bad at math too.

There was a BBC Panorama story on Saakashvilis obvious lies, aired sometime before Christmas 2008. Now it's been purged it seems.

Remember it vividly, I thought that perhaps the tone would change after seeing how massively retarded and contra-factual western coverage was while the conflict was "hot".

But no, that was an outlier, and probably the last one permitted.

"As Paul Craig Roberts asked recently, where is the Russian army ? This doesn't seem to add up. But I am bad at math too."


They have been ordered to hold the line and not much else. That's it.

Mediazona verified casualties show this - it's currently Wagner that's on assault and that's about it. Everyone else is "chilling."

Wikipedia is subject to ukro mass clown trolls. Not reliable even if most of the articles are quite good on it. But for military sources it's not the best one. Plenty of wrong stuff.

It's the same as MSM. Wikipedia is great for politically neutral things, as a general outline and handy gateway to "proper" sources. Be it science or sports results or whatever.

Once something's even mildly charged it's a ****show. That's just how it works.

In this sense it's no better than the Great Soviet Encyclopedia, so to speak.

Wikipedia is subject to ukro mass clown trolls. Not reliable even if most of the articles are quite good on it. But for military sources it's not the best one. Plenty of wrong stuff.

But the same Wikipedia sometimes discloses the truth by accident. It is an Anglo biased source clearly. So why would they be the ones understating Russian military deployment in Ukraine ? It goes 100% against their narrative. But they are probably right in this case. The 2022 order of battle comprised of just 50-60,000 real Russian troops. The rest were militia, Chechens and Wagner.

Russian sources put the number of regulars at 80,000 at the start of the war.

There are very few if not no one in the world beside military pro that know what units were sent in Ukraine. Those OSINT accounts just copy paste from various sources when to names of military units. They don't even know what they are but it's cool to share a number with a fancy name like "331st spetznaz infantry brigade from 4th army". At the end no one checks and it ends up in wikipedia.

When I say it is subjected to ukro trolls, I don't mean thry will lie or spread propaganda only but also write just dumb stuff out of their ass even if thry try to be objective.

Tanks being loaded onto trains somewhere in Russia. Either for parades or the SMO.

Moving towards Maryinka

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Sources in Kyiv said NATO chief Stoltenberg, during his visit to Kyiv, insisted on launching a Ukrainian counter-offensive on May 7-9. According to the source, the alliance believes that these days the start of active hostilities (rocket strikes and the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine) on Russian territories "will cause severe information damage to Russia during the celebration of Victory Day."

Would the US be stupid enough to point the so called counter offensive at Belgorod? I think they are.

Reading between the lines, the theme behind this article is that of assassinating Putin in order in the hopes of provoking a power struggle in Russia. Maybe that's what the NATO plan for winning the war is.

Well reading between the lines are they suggesting the best way forward is to kill Biden and Zelensky as the main driving forces of this conflict?

None of the other EU and HATO leaders matter really.

Ironically removing Putin from the picture would probably lead to someone who just sees the entire Ukraine as a threat that needs to be eliminated rather than deprogrammed from the cult they have been brainwashed by.

I would say getting rid of Putin now would kill more Orcs and result in rather less communication and relations with the west and a complete severing of ties... which is what the west seem to be pushing for anyway... till they realise that Russia doesn't actually need them as much as they need Russia.

The longer Russian military leadership prolongs the SMO the more time US/NATO gets to mitigate the current deficiencies; in producing armor and ammunition but also in getting all of that logistically moved into Ukraine.

The west is wasting billions of dollars on this conflict and there is nothing they can actually supply that could give Kiev a chance of winning.

Prolonging the conflict for as long as it takes is the best tactic for Russia because the US has the patience of a child and once they stop funding Kiev then the whole house of cards will collapse like it did in Afghanistan, because without the US HATO are useless pieces of shit who talk the talk but don't want to fund anything themselves... a whore does not pay for her drinks.

The EUs energy has ramped up in price and soon they will have to rebuild their own military forces to the tune of billions and the US wont be able to print more money and help... the war in the Ukraine will cost Biden a second term, and anyone opposing him for the republicans will use the damage the conflict has done to the US including the sanctions which are destroying the US dollar as the international currency of choice... and for what... the Ukraine.

This is turning the rest of the world against the west in a way nothing Putin or Xi could have done on their own could have managed and the west is doing it to themselves.

Let them keep doing it.

Germany is now warning Africa about how dangerous it would be to let China and Russia into their region... look at Europes history on that and keep a straight face with such warnings.

Is this a top quality US 6x6 logistics truck? The cab looks like the HIMARS cab.

It looks like it has fabric hung over it to make it look like it is not a HIMARS truck...

Do not worry about it, your "chivalry" will not be reciprocated.

In fact such behavior will only embolden them and make their behavior towards Russians and others they hate even worse.

Nazis are going to be nazis... expecting respect from them now would be just silly... all they had to do all along was treat Russia with respect but it has never happened because the US doesn't even treat Europe with respect, why respect Russians?

No reason to behave like nazis for Russia though.

The rest of the world sees and respects Russia, and sees the west for what it is.

Not long ago some Serb wrote that "the sooner someone kills Putin the better it is for Russia and Russians" and I agree.

Russia is in the best economic position it has ever been in, in terms of relations with countries around the world that are not hogtied to the west Russia is in an ideal position to sell food and fertiliser and medicine and resources and energy, and most of the rest of the world is interested in trading with Russia. Russian relations with China are better than they have been for a long time and both are fully engaged in supporting each other and backing each other up because Russia is a cheap source of food and energy for China that no western power could cut off by cutting sea based trade routes, and for Russia China is a large powerful country with which they have no fundamental problems with because they don't see it as their job to spread their type of government system or their religion or their culture like the US and the West does.

The west is currently destroying itself to save Ukrainian nazis... why do you think anything needs to change.

Things are actually going very well.

Obviously it would be better if Russians and Russian soldiers were not being killed, but such fundamental changes almost never occur without bloodshed... the west wont suddenly decide to stop listening to the evil 1% voices in their heads and start caring about the actual people of the west as a whole and start working to make their lives better... safer... more comfortable.

Russian drones really need to be hunting for vehicles stuck in the mud. There should be lots of lancelet opps in the next few weeks

Agree. And perhaps the caption for the video could say.... Awww... you're stuck in the mud... let me help you by making you lighter and easier to carry... BOOM.

"Hey Zelensky ! Send a huge formation of soldiers on foot to attack Russian territory ! They will get killed and your cities will be leveled but we will make sure the parade of the 9th may is impacted."

That guy is a clown.

@Hole,
Those few pics show more tanks rolling than the whole NATO supply.

Ba k in the day I'd suggest to ALWAYS read the talk pages of wikipedia and there is where some of the good info is usually. Sadly I found out recently that they are even deleting/censoring the talk pages.

https://vk.com/video-123538639_456298056

Leo already somewhere in Ukraine?

https://t.me/Ukr_G_M/17981

Destroyed Crab