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    Post  ALAMO Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:36 am

    Something amazing from Artemovsk.

    Undergrounds of Artvin, a vine production facility.



    It is a city where a car is being used for transfer ...

    A room with throne-like chairs, was constructed in the Soviet times for VIP degustations&fiesta for the party notables. It is located 78m underground.
    A whole complex was the Soviet biggest sparkling wine producers, and retained the production till the war. Ownes some brands that are well known in exWarPac countries.

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    Post  Arrow Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:52 am

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    Post  diabetus Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:59 am

    Regular wrote:Well, glide bombs are the real gamechanger it seems. Evident by Ukrainians crying that high troop concentrations can be problematic, staging areas have to be moved back and hidden. It’s not just that Ukrainian AD is degraded, VKS could have used them during early stages as well.

    Airforce has much more impact now and the solution is fairly cheap and simple. It’s not easy to shoot down gliding bombs, Ukraine only had few tunguskas and current limited SHORAD is all around capital… MANPAD proliferation means very little against such threats. Ghaypards are too few and they would need to be literally at the receiving end for them to intercept

    Yep, pretty stupid frankly that it took them months to figure that out.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:07 am

    NATO troops will be invited by the Govt of Ukraine, so Russia will be on pretty thin ice if they attack them.

    The mercenaries that fought for Kiev were not treated any different, they were invited there too... are you saying that US forces in Syria wont fire on Russian troops because Russian troops were invited?

    Kiev can invite anyone they please into the country but those invited that accept the invitation need to be aware Kiev is currently involved in a conflict and if HATO wants to send troops into that conflict then they become part of that conflict... and therefore also become fair game for the Russian military to kill.

    HATO advisors have already been killed in this conflict... I would think one of their attacks on that naval facility in Odessa after the Kiev attack on the Crimean bridge probably killed a few Brits too.

    HATO didn't respond by declaring war on Russia, in fact they seem to be being very careful to avoid starting such a conflict because they know it will escalate to a nuclear war very quickly, which is why HATO wont be sending any forces into the Ukraine... peace keepers or any other type of soldiers... some Polish politicians might suggest it but it will not happen because Russia will make a point of taking such forces out as quickly as possible.

    They will have the same status as Russian troops in Syria.

    Which is fair game for the terrorists... that the US and west support.

    This is exacerbated by the refusal of Russia to declare war on Ukraine. since its an SMO there is no state of war, ergo NATO troops can be invited in as peacekeepers.

    The US didn't declare war in Syria... they still do as they please... and are actually stealing resources from the country...

    i am not guessing at the outcome. I am saying the overwhelming advantages of Russia have to be translated into a decisive win, if not it will be a failure due to incompetence. its a statement of opinion. Not a prediction of any outcome.

    But they are talking about 200 to 400 thousand enemy soldiers... do you think the line the Russian soldiers will not move an inch and the enemy will just get mowed down? Ukrainian artillery will do nothing? Will they spread out their forces along the line of contact and slowly march forward into Russian guns and artillery and not fire back?

    400 thousand soldiers is more than Russia initially committed to this conflict against a much larger force of Ukrainians, many of which were battle hardened from 8 years of war.... it is probably double what the Russians invaded with...

    I am impressed with your opinion of competence... you set the bar incredibly high... do you think the Russians are Spartans?

    Or perhaps John Wick?

    If Russia holds all or even most of the territory they will be defending then this war is probably over within a year.

    If Russia holds its positions there will be a large vacuum created by the enormous loss of Orcs so pushing forward would actually be rather much easier and more territory could be taken before any consideration of talks could begin.... taking out Kievs leadership would probably be a good idea too... at the end of course.


    If the Russians were attacking entrenched troops, then I might agree with you. But attacking troops with no air cover, attacking entrenched defenses with massive artillery, air support and armour, should stop the Ukrainians before they even get too close.

    The Orcs will have been stockpiling artillery shells and rockets to use in large numbers during their attacks and they will do some damage, and most likely they will concentrate their forces in specific locations to have local numbers advantages, but as mentioned above with Russian air power on their toes and carrying lots of bombs this is going to be very bloody.

    Yep, pretty stupid frankly that it took them months to figure that out.

    The Russians seem to have learned to coordinate the use of drones with artillery and even automatic grenade units and tank units which appear to use a drone operator to find targets in real time like in a video game.... videos showing tanks getting direct hits on troops in trenches and grenade launchers dropping rounds very accurately on target at troops in trenches suggests they are getting very good at such things... which does not bode well for large concentrations of enemy forces because heavy fire power is not as effective as people think when delivered blindly, but when targets are spotted it is devastating... vastly more effective than armed drones because a drone not carrying weapons can carry more fuel and remain on station much longer and the amount of weapons a single drone could carry is pathetic, but the amount of ammo an artillery battalion can carry is rather more able to stop a charge and drive it back.

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    Post  Hole Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:14 pm

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:08 pm

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:13 pm

    Perhaps the recruitment teams should target those disrupting the churches, they look the right age and type.

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    Post  mnztr Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:24 pm

    But they are talking about 200 to 400 thousand enemy soldiers... do you think the line the Russian soldiers will not move an inch and the enemy will just get mowed down? Ukrainian artillery will do nothing? Will they spread out their forces along the line of contact and slowly march forward into Russian guns and artillery and not fire back? 400 thousand soldiers is more than Russia initially committed to this conflict against a much larger force of Ukrainians, many of which were battle hardened from 8 years of war.... it is probably double what the Russians invaded with... I am impressed with your opinion of competence... you set the bar incredibly high... do you think the Russians are Spartans? Or perhaps John Wick? wrote:

    i didn't say they should not move. Not moving would result in MORE casualties. Russia has the ability to hit much deeper. You withdraw behind minefields and pummel the enemy when they enter the kill box. if Russia allows them to move artillery that close in volume then that is already incompetence.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:59 pm

    So, why that bridge?

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    Post  mnztr Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:00 pm

    The mercenaries that fought for Kiev were not treated any different, they were invited there too... are you saying that US forces in Syria wont fire on Russian troops because Russian troops were invited? wrote:

    mercs are fighting under the Ukrainian flag, surely you know the difference. Yes US troops will NOT fire on Russian troops or planes inn Syria unless they directly attack US assets. There was a whole deconfliction process set up to manage this.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:01 pm

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    They are shown below, overlaid on the latest frontline map.

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    Post  Hole Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:03 pm

    So, why that bridge?
    The area is surrounded on three sides by Russia. The bridge is the only connection.
    Could be an area for a little incursion. The Ukros have to watch this area now.

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    Post  franco Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:37 pm

    The Russian Defense Ministry announced the return of 106 Russian servicemen from enemy captivity.

    “On April 10, as a result of the negotiation process, 106 Russian servicemen were returned from the territory controlled by the Kyiv regime, who were in mortal danger in captivity,” the report says.

    The Russian Defense Ministry specified that military transport aircraft would deliver the released to Moscow. There they will undergo treatment and rehabilitation in medical institutions of the RF Ministry of Defense.

    At the same time, it was emphasized that all the released were provided with the necessary medical and psychological assistance.

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    Post  Backman Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:52 pm

    Something amazing from Artemovsk.

    Undergrounds of Artvin, a vine production facility.

    Good channel. Those guys look elite.

    Russia should develop a hand held loitering drone or small ground radar unit that can watch over the heads of small troop concetrations. Something that would fit in a backpack.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:12 pm

    Looks like its 'hit a bridge' week, cutting easy vehicle access to Russia.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:58 pm

    The hound and his friends is on the move Laughing

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    Post  Backman Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:21 pm

    Ukraine cant build buk missiles. Is there mfg'ers outside of Ukraine for them? Maybe there is still stockpiles that can be refurbished. It looks like a refirbed missile on this buk

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    Post  mnztr Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:33 pm

    man, driving around with a white missile, not a good idea. probably can Id that one from space.

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    Post  kvs Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:45 pm



    I think Mercouris is right. The 200,000 is not all the men that the Kiev regime can deploy for its offensive but their whole army.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:51 pm

    They could get some missiles from Finland, and for sure used to have the base for rep/mod, as they modernized Georgian ones.

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    Post  PhSt Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:51 pm

    https://t.me/intelslava/46777

    Im no expert so can someone enlighten me how the three people in the video got allegedly killed by the mortar hit that landed in the distance? So they weren't directly hit by the projectile, and from the video, it seemed far enough to cause any serious injuries, or is the projectile designed to release a sort of fragmentation blast which killed the three even from a distance?
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    Post  Backman Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:05 am

    ^ The concussion of the blast will f you up man. The shock wave goes into your ears and you're out. We have first person footage so the Russians got their Gopros.

    (This is the same footage but embedded so you dont have to go to telegram)

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