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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #42

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    Post  franco Sat May 13, 2023 12:59 am

    sepheronx Yesterday at 8:27 pm
    Interesting. Then how many troops are in the SMO then? Especially if they increased number of troops?



    Former chief British general Sir Richard BARRONS: The Ukrainian army prepared about 60,000 soldiers for the counteroffensive, while the Russian army concentrated about 300,000 on the front, and another 200,000 in reserve. Those 60,000 are - even under the most favorable conditions - enough for strikes only on a 25-kilometer front.

    https://twitter.com/Spriter99880/status/1657127927849385984?cxt=HHwWgIC87cHEpv8tAAAA

    These numbers are as good as any. I believe total numbers to be 500-600,000 and probably around half in the SMO.

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    Post  flamming_python Sat May 13, 2023 1:20 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:

    Well someone's excited.

    I truly wonder when Russia is gonna end this nonsense?  Neutral


    I don't understand why you and others keep posting this goon who expresses sorrow over the various deaths of notable Ukronazis among other things

    This nonsense is not going to stop and it's not Russia's job to stop it, people like this are going to continue making up these fables as that's their job.

    sundoesntrise wrote:Trust the Plan my friend, even if there is no plan and your fate is in the hands of utterly incompetent imbeciles like Shoigu and Gerasimov.

    I have no reason to doubt the abilities of either. They don't report to me about their plans and decisions and neither do I expect them to.

    You ought to concern yourself with the stuff you actually put your money on, namely when that genius Kissinger manages to turn China against Russia as you were predicting some months ago.

    sundoesntrise wrote:Oh just wait for a couple of weeks. Once they realize Putin and cronies are still drunk on potato liquor and uninterested in hearing about advanced indicators on the 'SMO' going belly up, they start pounding away at Russia proper too.

    Shills on russiadefense.net will probably even defend them for it. Point in case being Podlodka, a intellectual lightweight turned pro bono propagandist. A man who just yesterday - without blinking - managed to assert that Russia is intentionally losing as to show the world its interested in world peace. You can't make this sh*t up anymore.

    This whole charade has moved beyond the twilight zone.

    Russia's not losing, lay down the crackpipe

    I don't know what these or whatever missiles hit in Lugansk and what their targets were, but Russia launches mass cruise missile strikes every few days and those really do hit their targets.

    You are arguing essentially that if the Ukraine manages to hit 1/1000th the amount of targets that Russia does, then that means that Russia is losing.

    sundoesntrise wrote:This is a bit of a lukewarm cope as to spin and damage control the fact away that Ukraine now has the ability and missile stocks to hit Russian assets deep in the rear (with Russian AD systems proving to be incapable to stop the attack)

    If Putn only had enforced the red lines since the start of the w... Whatever, I am talking to mindless NPC's here.

    The Ukraine has previously struck targets in the Donetsk region, Kherson region, Crimea, in Belgorod, in the Rostov on Don region if memory doesn't betray - I think Russia can manage a threat to the Lugansk region as well.

    You're doing nothing but making a mountain out of a molehill as you NAFO propagandists seem to specialise in.

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    Post  flamming_python Sat May 13, 2023 1:46 am

    Backman wrote:From the Ukraine govt 

    Zelensky’s office and the Ukrainian CIPSO actively conduct and monitor the effectiveness of cognitive operations against Russia.

    The first military operations showed that the enemy is not ready for the psychological component of the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and continues to make mistakes, as in the Kharkov counteroffensive.

    At the semantic level, yesterday we managed to sow panic from an attack by several platoons and tactical groups, which allows us to simulate the effect of a more serious attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    From Slavyngrad (who I consider to be doomers themselves)

    Regarding this,  whoever starts spreading doom and gloom in the chat, without confirmed information from the channel itself,  will be banned instantly, without the possibility of appeal. Panic mongers, if they don't have the nerves to sustain the pressure, should avoid the channel in the next couple of days. Otherwise,  you will be treated as a provocateur and removed instantly.

    This I absolutely agree on and it has become a problem. Not for the Russian military itself, which I have not known of to panic, but definitely there is an Achilles heel here in the form of the war bloggers and the part of the domestic audience that takes them seriously.

    Mercouris did two good videos over the previous day that sheds light on these issues




    Essentially we have two conundrums here

    The first is Prigozhin. It seems like he really has gone off-script and this is terribly disappointing. I didn't figure him for being this petty pathetic man that prioritizes his own little intrigues and ambitions over the wider war effort but that's what the evidence is increasingly suggesting. He is actively giving propaganda ammunition to the enemy, working to undermine allied morale, and frankly making Russia look weak and divided to the rest of the world that's just observing the conflict. He has managed this all by himself, quite remarkable when you think about it. It's been suggested that he has also slowed down the pace of the Wagner advance in Bakhmut as he suspects that he will become expendable to the Kremlin as soon as Bakhmut is taken.
    What I would suggest is for the Kremlin not to wait any further and immediately relieve him of his duties and have him escorted back to Moscow not passing GO on the way. I never much considered the psychology of people such as General Vlasov during WW2, or that of numerous other collaborators - but I would think that the ability to ignore all collective and national interests when an opportunity arises for you to seriously advance your own was certainly a part of that psychology. As would be the presence of grievances and grudges against one's leadership, which Prigozhin clearly possess as well. The risk is that Prigozhin may feel himself driven into a corner and would defect to the enemy to preempt any punishment. Therefore the authorities should act promptly, just in case.

    Second are the aforementioned war bloggers. I never had a high opinion of them, as far as I'm concerned they're essentially war-profiteers who compete among each other for the most sensationalist and doomer stories and takes, no matter if its at the expense of morale among their readers - the main prize for them is the size of their audience. However I did expect a little common sense and caution among them, which indeed has been found lacking as the Ukrainians have found out. More than likely they have been infilitrated by some Ukro elements too but that's no excuse; it's the responsibility of each and every public figure during wartime to check their sources, confirm their information and avoid spreading panic. The failure of them to do any of this equates to a certain risk as they do have a considerable readership still on the homefront.
    Naturally you cannot simply cull these people outright. If these 'war correspondents' disappear, people will actively seek out other sources of information, perhaps Ukrainian or NATO ones. But certainly these people should be paid a visit and offered some supervision, to make sure they don't post anything stupid again.

    I honestly find it remarkable how Russia's information-space is working to the benefit of the enemy, not to the benefit of Russia - at a time of war.
    It's not something you can say about the Ukraine, they have instituted a harsh dictatorship, kill off dissenters, and mobilized all their informational resources to the aid of their war effort.
    Nor can you say it about NATO. While they've mostly maintained free speech, they also have a system of totalitarianism in extent if not in method, have introduced all sorts of laws against fake-news, dogmas, social ostracization against non-conformist thinkers, and so on, and have mobilized all the same info resources for their benefit too.
    It's only Russia seems to be clueless about all of this.

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    Post  Backman Sat May 13, 2023 2:57 am

    ^ It was all fog of war until Rybar confirmed it. And geo located it. How is that not literal battlefield intelligence ? That Ukraine forces themselves can use.
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    Post  flamming_python Sat May 13, 2023 3:27 am

    Well we don't really know what's going on, and naturally some of these resources are operated by Russian intel themselves.

    It's just I find it hard to square up all this assorted shenanigance with some sort of master plan being at work, to lure the Ukrainians into doing an offensive after all. Although no doubt in my mind, that Russian command will prefer that this Ukro offensive takes place.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat May 13, 2023 3:32 am

    FFS...  I have NAFO morons like sundoesntrise on ignore for good reason, yet people still insist on polluting this forum with their faked-glee over Ukropi propaganda claims and alleged "advances".

    If you have to quote these hateful clowns, at least do us the courtesy of deleting their handle so that we can continue to pretend these idiot vermin don't exist.

    BTW I agree with your responses, I just detest being exposed to their spiteful hate-filled bullsh!t.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat May 13, 2023 3:46 am

    Well someone's excited.

    There are still people who listen to Dima? Pfftt... he's a limp-wristed pearl-clutching doomer weakling. First sign of a Ukrop with a pointy stick and he starts to cry. Razz

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat May 13, 2023 4:02 am

    Hole wrote:https://imetatronink.substack.com/p/volodymyr-oleksandrovychs-last-dance
    Good article

    Agreed 100%, and worthy of posting in full  thumbsup This big picture stuff should be obvious to everyone, but apparently common sense isn't actually common these days...

    Russia Is Defeating Ukraine With One Hand Tied Behind Its Back

    Once it became clear the Russians had no intention to launch a winter offensive, I’ve steadily come to believe they concluded no later than summer 2022 that they must prioritize preparations to face a possible direct NATO intervention in this war.

    I am increasingly persuaded the introduction of the American “wunderwaffen” (M-777 and HIMARS) has overridingly influenced Russian prosecution of this war — not on account of these particular systems’ battlefield efficacy, but by what they symbolized:

    The US having “raised the stakes” in this fashion, the war was instantly transformed into an escalatory duel.

    And that realization has, in my estimation, strongly influenced everything we have seen the Russians do since then.

    First, they prepared to shorten their lines.

    Many remain thoroughly convinced the late summer Ukrainian “counter-offensives” took the Russians by surprise. I continue to strongly dispute that conclusion.

    It is my firm opinion that the Russian strategy in both Kherson and Kharkov was to ultimately pull back to contracted, more defensible lines, and to do so while yet exacting an extremely heavy price on the undergunned Ukrainian attackers.

    In my view, the thing speaks for itself: the Ukrainian “counter-offensives” have resulted in the near dissolution of the armies that launched them, as witnessed by the many dozens of horrifying cemetery videos that have emerged in recent months.

    Meanwhile, the Russians have been preparing upwards of 300k effectives drawn from their vast reserve pool – possibly as many as 500k total.

    They withdrew many of their most accomplished units from the spring and summer campaign in the Donbass / Azov region.

    One must assume many of these newly minted “combat veterans” have been contributing to the training of the mobilized forces.

    And, as that obviously unrushed training has proceeded, the Russians have continued to fight the AFU with a pronounced economy of force.

    Coupled with Russia’s overwhelming firepower advantage, this economy of force – impressively exemplified by their tactics in the battles for Soledar, Bakhmut, and Kreminna – has inflicted ever-escalating losses on the Ukrainian defenders.

    Simultaneously, Russian industrial war production has increased to a degree entirely unforeseen by most analysts.

    The aggregated evidence from the battlefield indisputably confirms that Russian replenishment of munitions has continued apace with no discernible interruptions.

    Indeed, Russian firepower is now more abundant and effective than ever. They are applying more high-explosive ordnance more precisely than ever before.

    They are now employing GLONASS-guided 500kg and 1500kg glide-bombs to devastating effect.

    Tornado MLRS systems (also GLONASS-guided) have entered the fray in increasing numbers. The Tornado is substantially superior to the HIMARS, with comparable accuracy, much greater range, larger salvos, and significantly heavier payload.

    Even more concerning for the NATO/AFU war planners is that, thanks to the recent intel “leaks”, everyone now knows the Russians are jamming US/NATO GPS-guided munitions via ECM, and also shooting down HIMARS rockets and HARMS missiles with ever-increasing regularity.

    Concurrently, the Russians have built up a very significant force in Belarus, even as the full military alliance between Russia and Belarus was solidified.

    This force is almost certainly viewed as “first responders” to a NATO advance from Poland and/or the Baltics.

    Now, as I have repeatedly argued since even before this war’s formal commencement in late February 2022, I think there is virtually zero possibility the US/NATO will directly intervene in this war – UNLESS the #EmpireAtAllCosts cult seizes the reins of military power in America.

    I don’t believe that state of affairs yet prevails.

    But I do believe there are two very powerful factions contesting the point. The recent “Pentagon Leaks” are almost certainly related to this ongoing struggle.

    This is, therefore, the moment of greatest danger yet.

    Direct NATO intervention in this war would, of course, be utter madness.

    The Russians have been preparing for it for at least 9 months, with the overwhelming majority of their potential force retained in reserve, under constant training.

    I don’t believe the Russians are concerned about the most recent iteration of NATO/AFU hybrid army alleged to be poised for a “crushing counter-offensive”.

    They are ready to receive it, and will do so with one hand still held securely behind their back.

    They will continue to hold in reserve the vast majority of the army they have been building for many months, just in case the #EmpireAtAllCosts cult triumphs in Washington.

    And when you give it some serious thought, you’ll see it is the logical and wise decision.

    Of course, there is effectively ZERO chance a US-led “coalition of the willing” is going to defeat the Russians in a conventional war in Ukraine.

    They quite simply do NOT have the wherewithal to prosecute a high-intensity conflict against Russia.

    The only possible evolution of such an undertaking would be to eventually place the west in the position of being tempted to go scorched-earth nuclear in a fit of desperate humiliation.

    This, obviously, is a cause for great concern.

    In conjunction with these developments, I submit the remarkable statements emerging from the visit to Moscow of Chinese defense chief Li Shangfu forcefully confirm the de facto military wedding of Russian and Chinese interests, with Iran already firmly in the same camp.

    To complicate matters even further, the entire west is on a trajectory to its worst economic depression since the 1930s, accompanied by the portentous transition of the global dollar system to a multipolar trade and currency regime.

    In conclusion, I am thoroughly persuaded that the next few months of 2023 are almost certainly going to shape our world for decades to come.

    Prepare accordingly …

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    Post  GarryB Sat May 13, 2023 5:23 am

    I dont think this is the case, but I definitely see it as a possibility as we spend as much on CIA budget as european nations spend in their entire defense budgets, and spook backed NGOs working with the CIA, MI6 and private Intel agencies rake in hundreds of millions each year.

    The CIA gets 65 billion from the US budget... and earns who knows how much more from the illegal drug trade... (pumping drugs into Russia and China and other countries that the US has decided are enemies can be profitable)... the Russian defence budget is similar... which is getting the best return for their money... but most sheep in the west will tell you that the US is the centre of civilisation and Russia is corrupt.

    That is Ishenko's opinion, but I think HIMARS was never that effective and was mostly a terror weapon for hitting civilian targets. The longer range
    missile supplied by the British seems like a more effective option for the suppression of the rear function. But I expect it to be neutralized like the
    HIMARS.


    It will likely be a repeat... they got a new accurate toy that will defeat Russia because its accurate and amazing and the first few times they use it against Russian military targets it will get shot down. If they try to mass them up to overwhelm the defences they get spotted and attacked because coordinating lots of vehicles to all launch and attack a target to be hit all at once is complex and difficult to manage in the field. Eventually they realise that hitting the Russian military forces is hard and so they use it against former Ukrainian citizens in what is now Russian territory... and they will likely do the same with Storm shadow.

    One funny thing is that this missile has a greater range than allowed for export so it will allow Russia to arm Iran, north Korea and Venezuela with real kalibr and oniks with max ranges and not export versions.

    But considering the British are giving these missiles and the US is openly refusing to follow their lead perhaps Argentina might want some new aircraft and missiles and ships and subs.

    With Iran perhaps letting them have them anyway is the key so if the UK apologises and stops supplying DU ammo and long range missiles... in fact stops supporting Kiev completely then Russian deliveries to Argentina wont be so aggressive... but I rather doubt the UK will stop so I would improve relations with Argentina anyway.

    You really think NATO will shoot missiles across the border at Russian planes? I doubt it.

    I think they will claim the inaccurate Russian missiles are landing on their side of the border and therefore they are protecting themselves by shooting down ordinance that approaches their territory... you know what lying censored they are.

    NATO transports delivering food to Kiev? Take out the Runway and destroy the planes on the ground.

    Starving the civilian population is a war crime I am sure they will demand a HATO intervention to save the innocent nazis...

    Even if NATO is forced to fly stuff in, the logistics cost imposed on them will be MASSIVE.

    They have already spent over 100 billion dollars... that is double the Russian defence budget for the same time period...

    The failure to make any meaningful effort at interdiction is perplexing. Its been a puzzling gap in this campaign.

    They have spent the first year and a half of this conflict trying to spare Ukrainians civilians... rescuing Ukrainian civilians from shelling by Kiev was a big part of why they invaded.

    Thinking they might now try to starve out the rest of the Ukrainian civilian population would contradict what they have done so far and also why they went in there in the first place.

    Add to it, it also lights a fire under Russian leadership asses to actually do something.

    It is the enemy that are in the shit, Russia is pretty much on target and doing what it needs to do, while the west is pissing itself and is now in the process of lashing out at every country that did not conform to its sanctions against Russia. The backlash from that should be entertaining.

    But honestly, sometimes it's better for Russia to go on the offensive to break any kind of attempt of a counter offensive - strike at Kharkov region and push forward there. This may force Ukriane to divert forces in that area that would have been otherwise used in an offensive.

    They have been building defences and preparing for an enemy offensive for some time and you want them to ignore all that and charge at the enemy?

    Are you changing camps?

    Listen to the west... they started out saying that Crimea probably wont be taken, and now they are saying it will be costly and might not be very successful at all.

    The point is that letting them mass up to attack gives the Russian forces nice juicy targets to destroy and once a big percentage of their attacking forces are destroyed then it makes sense to then start attacking and pushing them back in their weakened state.

    Go to early and you make things easier for them not you.

    If Putn only had enforced the red lines since the start of the w... Whatever, I am talking to mindless NPC's here.

    What has happened at every Orc escalation... remind me what happened when they managed to hit the Crimean bridge... didn't the lights start to go out all across Ukraine?

    This will be interesting.

    And Putin.

    Putin has no hand in military planning, and cries about incompetence in the Russian military are amusing to say the least... if they were incompetent then why is there a war on... shouldn't it be over by now because of the amazing western all powerful HATO and its prodigy Kiev and their nazi band?

    Either Russian MOD is really not up to the task and lacks the courage of Wagner troops or they want to let the forces go in just enough to give them confidence to start a larger offensive and then slam the door once they have committed all of their forces.

    These are just probing attacks and not the full attack... wasting forces on the probing forces is a waste of ammo and energy.

    Hopefully this will teach them not to plan their military operations based on holidays which is annoying and retarded practice

    The only people I have seen mentioning such things are western reporters and officials... is there any actual evidence of this or just wishful thinking.

    The US feared further attacks every anniversary of 11/9 for years before they realised that is the sort of shit they like to do and their enemy does not.

    It's just I find it hard to square up all this assorted shenanigance with some sort of master plan being at work, to lure the Ukrainians into doing an offensive after all. Although no doubt in my mind, that Russian command will prefer that this Ukro offensive takes place.

    A bit ironic they are goading their enemy to attack when the enemy has been promising this attack for a long time to justify all the money and weapons and training it claims to have done... it seems Kiev is losing its bottle and needs more encouragement.... the sky is falling in Russia and so now is the time to attack...

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    Post  Belisarius Sat May 13, 2023 6:24 am

    utterly incompetent imbeciles like Shoigu and Gerasimov.

    When Von der Lugen admitted the death of over 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers, the war was already over 280 days old, 100,000 deaths in 280 days means that every day 357 Ukrainian soldiers die.

    In contrast, when the war turned one year old, the BBC published an article talking about the death of only 16,000 Russian soldiers so far, 16,000 in 365 days means that every day 44 Russian soldiers die.

    So far, Ukrainian casualties are at least 8 times higher than Russia's, keeping all this in mind, the question remains: how do Shoigu and Gerasimov manage to be "utterly incompetent imbeciles" while killing 8 times more enemy soldiers?

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    Post  Backman Sat May 13, 2023 6:36 am

    Now Russia has lit up the map again with explosions. Far west too. Why does it seem like Russia could do this 24/7 for a week and the fighting at the front wont change one bit.

    It just shows what external funding and full mobilization of a country can do. You bomb the rats over here and the rats over there just scurry away. 2.5 million rats. Even killing them in lots of 200,000 is still a lot of work. It is a big sprawling country. A mini Russia




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    Post  Lapain Sat May 13, 2023 6:58 am

    The Russian Federation is currently the only nation capable of conducting a low-intensity conflict for a sustainable period given its relative lack of external debt and hability to turn its markets inwards and outwards of the West. Hence why I was kinda surprised to see the Blitz of early 2022 instead of the current pace we see today around Bakhmut.

    On the other hand, there is this one side that is desperate to show action. Artificially animated by propaganda and pompours boasting coupled with an ever increasing return on investment pressure before the inevitable economic downturn and/or windfall in US political support.

    Any competent Russian general in front of that circus would prepare for the inevitable blunderous offensive, hold the ground and seize the moment thereafter for countering decisively.

    No wonder those subtle signs speaking of a Russian military lurking in the back. It might have its numerous inadequacies, no doubt that the Kharkov retreat had been a bad surprise for Kremlin planners, but being obvious isn't characteristic of the Russian military, despite all the provocations of the West, and you can bet the house the latter will keep evolving.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat May 13, 2023 8:12 am

    franco wrote:sepheronx Yesterday at 8:27 pm
    Interesting. Then how many troops are in the SMO then? Especially if they increased number of troops?



    Former chief British general Sir Richard BARRONS: The Ukrainian army prepared about 60,000 soldiers for the counteroffensive, while the Russian army concentrated about 300,000 on the front, and another 200,000 in reserve. Those 60,000 are - even under the most favorable conditions - enough for strikes only on a 25-kilometer front.

    https://twitter.com/Spriter99880/status/1657127927849385984?cxt=HHwWgIC87cHEpv8tAAAA

    These numbers are as good as any. I believe total numbers to be 500-600,000 and probably around half in the SMO.

    Oh yeay oh yeay, someone finally has started to ask the right questions?
    Where is the Russian regular army?
    Because obviously not in the SMO area, en force ...

    Belisarius wrote:
    utterly incompetent imbeciles like Shoigu and Gerasimov.
    When Von der Lugen admitted the death of over 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers, the war was already over 280 days old, 100,000 deaths in 280 days means that every day 357 Ukrainian soldiers die.
    In contrast, when the war turned one year old, the BBC published an article talking about the death of only 16,000 Russian soldiers so far, 16,000 in 365 days means that every day 44 Russian soldiers die.
    So far, Ukrainian casualties are at least 8 times higher than Russia's, keeping all this in mind, the question remains: how do Shoigu and Gerasimov manage to be "utterly incompetent imbeciles" while killing 8 times more enemy soldiers?

    You are trying to demand analytics from a chimp herd? dunno
    Good luck.

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    Post  mnztr Sat May 13, 2023 9:07 am

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    mnztr wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    But still, why all the rails lines and main road are not hit daily with FAB 500's is a real mystery to me.
    You can´t destroy rail lines or even roads with some bombs. You can only damage a few metres which can be repaired
    in a matter of hours (in case of railways) or even faster (roads).

    you drop bombs and mines. you can do this every day. When they show up to repair you bomb it and kill the crews.



    How it was done during World War 2:


    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-ZiemiKieleckiej.html

    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-GL.html



    Did they have Glonass, jet fighters that can carry 10T of glide bombs and Iskander missiles, and TU-22's in WWII?



    Have a nice reading.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat May 13, 2023 9:41 am

    Lapain wrote:The Russian Federation is currently the only nation capable of conducting a low-intensity conflict for a sustainable period given its relative lack of external debt and hability to turn its markets inwards and outwards of the West. Hence why I was kinda surprised to see the Blitz of early 2022 instead of the current pace we see today around Bakhmut.    
    On the other hand, there is this one side that is desperate to show action. Artificially animated by propaganda and pompours boasting coupled with an ever increasing return on investment pressure before the inevitable economic downturn and/or windfall in US political support.
    Any competent Russian general in front of that circus would prepare for the inevitable blunderous offensive, hold the ground and seize the moment thereafter for countering decisively.
    No wonder those subtle signs speaking of a Russian military lurking in the back. It might have its numerous inadequacies, no doubt that the Kharkov retreat had been a bad surprise for Kremlin planners, but being obvious isn't characteristic of the Russian military, despite all the provocations of the West, and you can bet the house the latter will keep evolving.  

    Russkie performed a military campaign against the heaviest army in Europe, using little more than half of the OpFor.
    In two months, they have vaporized it.
    Killed the personnel, destroyed most of the most capable units, and thousands of heavy military equipment.
    Pulverized the air forces and air defense down to the level when it started to be irrelevant to the conflict.
    Overall, the speed of attack was a match with Bagration strategic operation, and by April 2022 brought Ukr to it's knees and negotiation table.
    The thing was done, from every sane person's perspective - with moderate human and capital loses.
    And something happened.
    Something irrational, from the both Ukrainian and European perspectives.
    Anglosaxon devils manage to push them both to perform suicide.
    Europe disarmed itself to the bottom of the warehouses, giving everything it could - and sometimes what it could not.
    It is not a secret anymore, that there are some existing army units in multiple European countries that are striped off the whole equipment.
    The paper army was left.
    Uko regime started to push insane human wave tactics against the horrific firepower of a modern Russian army, at a scale nobody would even imagine.
    All of them focused on providing harsh&overwhealming propaganda campaigns, figuring out and providing to  the audience such a load of shit, that Goebbels can be considered a humble amateur only.
    A whole division of trolls and influencers, boots and media was pushed to the frontline.
    We can seriously observe situations on a scale of comedy show, like multiple materials where a person obviously in heavy use of alcohol, lacking half of the teeth, broadcasts from some shithole lacking glass in windows, while claiming that Russkie invaders robbed him/her of five latest iPhones and brand new Mercedes  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing

    Backman wrote:
    It is obviously unacceptable what happened.

    The only unacceptable thing is the hype that an irrelevant event started in the Russian pussy Telegramers.
    Ukrs hit an empty building in a city well behind the lines till now, using new Wunderwaffe and special penetration tactics.
    Does anyone really have an issue realizing how pathetic that is in real, and what it tells for real?

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    Post  GarryB Sat May 13, 2023 12:37 pm


    So far, Ukrainian casualties are at least 8 times higher than Russia's, keeping all this in mind, the question remains: how do Shoigu and Gerasimov manage to be "utterly incompetent imbeciles" while killing 8 times more enemy soldiers?

    They are just posting their words of the day to their international audience... surprised they didn't work the word Humiliate in there so it does not keep getting used to describe the US in Afghanistan and their withdrawal from that conflict.

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    Post  LMFS Sat May 13, 2023 12:57 pm

    Friendly reminder...

    - Russia is not just demilitarizing 404 but the whole NATO. They have destroyed n iterations of the ukie army, equipped with basically all local, ex soviet and now modern NATO equipment available in the world in the process. No time, no territorial goals have been stated, so it will keep going until the West gives up
    - The military element of the confrontation of the West with Russia is the less important one and, as Borrell himself put it, Ukraine will collapse days after their support ends. The key element was economic and there the defeat of the West has been complete. Russia can sustain the ongoing effort for as long as it takes and in fact will profit from the increased economic activity and military upgrades while 404 has become a zombie state. The defeat of Ukraine is almost unavoidable.
    - For the Anglos the destruction of Russians by means of other Russians is a win-win, they have certainly no interest to stop it. But they need an off-ramp to concentrate in China and therefore keep pushing the ukrainians into the counteroffensive that will kill more of them, more Russians and force the military collapse and start of some negotiation process by which they hope to preserve some of the ukrainian state, which they will use to keep harassing Russia in the future. As to UK leadership in particular, they know they are already past the point of compromise by the Russians, so they go no holds barred just to do more damage. There is nothing to lose for them.
    - Retarded TGers and internet pussies of all flavors should STFU when the general staff works. They sized the armed forces and sustaining elements to face the whole of NATO and are now doing short work of the VSU without needing to disrupt the economic development of the RF. But their job now is to keep the ukies feeding killing zones like Artemovsk until their complete depletion, instead of requiring the war to be fought in the whole of 404 up to the Polish border, as was hoped by the West. To spread doom when the sign of the war has already decided months ago (arguably even before the SMO started) is beyond silly.


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    Post  JohninMK Sat May 13, 2023 1:04 pm

    Germany continues to strip its army of working gear, maybe not their MBT but all the other stuff they rely on.

    No doubt the more thoughtful in their military will be counting on the Russians stopping at the Polish border. These continuing gifts are certainly weakening US/NATO negotiating position when it ends.


    Germany will provide Ukraine with the largest military aid package since the beginning of the war Spiegel writes that the €2.7 billion package will include:

    - 20 BMP "Marder";
    - 30 Leopard 1 tanks;
    - 4 air defense systems IRIS-T-SLM (12 launchers and hundreds of missiles to it);
    - 200 reconnaissance UAVs;
    - 100 combat vehicles (probably light armored personnel carriers).
    - 100 logistic support vehicles.
    - A large supply of ammunition.

    In addition, 15 Gepard anti-aircraft systems will be removed from conservation and delivered to Ukraine.

    t.me/CyberspecNews/30434

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    Post  LMFS Sat May 13, 2023 1:14 pm

    Hole wrote:https://imetatronink.substack.com/p/volodymyr-oleksandrovychs-last-dance
    Good article

    Another good one Laughing

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    Legendary Russian fatalism may be alive and well, but it will be ashamed of its doubts in the end.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat May 13, 2023 1:15 pm

    Interesting that they seem to be doing this at a field workshop rather than pulling them back to do it. They must be shipping out kits of parts. Photos are before and after

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    Post  Tolstoy Sat May 13, 2023 1:21 pm

    The red square parade only showed one T34 Tank . Meaning the entire force is or should be deployed .
    lol! lol! lol! The number of third world jackholes that this forum attracts continues to grow. Victory Day parade is mostly devoted towards displaying the state of the art weaponry, not bygone era weapons. The only reason obsolete weapons find a place in the parade is to show how these weapons have evolved throughout the last few decades.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat May 13, 2023 1:27 pm

    Another valuable dump goes up.

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    At least 10 Explosions have been heard in and around the City of Khmelnytskyi in Western Ukraine as it’s reported Russian Shahed-136 “Kamikaze” Drones have Struck multiple Critical-Infrastructure Sites causing Severe Damage, Massive Fires, and Debris to Rain across the City.

    Local Sources have stated that a Ukrainian Arms Depot that is on the Outskirts of the City may have suffered a Direct Hit with the resulting Explosions causing Damage to nearby Commercial and Residential Buildings while also Blowing-Out Windows over 3 Miles away.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat May 13, 2023 1:44 pm

    A representative of democratic, sorry, gangster state Ukraine talking of the reality that the EU will refuse to hear. They, the toughest thug, expect to get their way, as they have to date. If they realise that they are just being used.



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    Post  JohninMK Sat May 13, 2023 1:57 pm

    Heroes of Donbas and Luhansk all. No doubt this building is now suddenly a prime HIMARS target.

    Sadly, some of us here watched as it happened. RIP

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    Post  Mir Sat May 13, 2023 2:17 pm

    Tolstoy wrote:The only reason obsolete weapons find a place in the parade is to show how these weapons have evolved throughout the last few decades.

    Just referring to Victory Day - they show these vintage WWII weapons as a reminder (in remembrance) of the hard fought victory against Fascist Germany in The Great Patriotic War. The modern weapons on display is displayed as a deterrent for any future aggressors - mainly NATzo.

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