Confirms that the Storm missiles from the UK were sent probably months ago. And were fitted and ready to go. The UK announced it yesterday , and missiles are striking into Luhansk that were out of reach for all of the war until now.
War correspondent Yevgeny Poddubny:
In Lugansk, after the sound of the flight of air objects, several explosions thundered.
Lugansk has long been considered a "green zone". Previously, the enemy did not reach the objects in the city with means of fire destruction
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Backman wrote:Confirms that the Storm missiles from the UK were sent probably months ago. And were fitted and ready to go. The UK announced it yesterday , and missiles are striking into Luhansk that were out of reach for all of the war until now.
War correspondent Yevgeny Poddubny:
In Lugansk, after the sound of the flight of air objects, several explosions thundered.
Lugansk has long been considered a "green zone". Previously, the enemy did not reach the objects in the city with means of fire destruction
I would say that is definitely the case. Luhansk getting hit is pretty much proof of that. We will now start to see cruise missile attacks against targets that were beyond Kiev's range before, in the south and in the Donbas most likely. I doubt the UK will allow them to be used against Russia proper in the initial stage.
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zorobabel wrote: I would say that is definitely the case. Luhansk getting hit is pretty much proof of that. We will now start to see cruise missile attacks against targets that were beyond Kiev's range before, in the south and in the Donbas most likely. I doubt the UK will allow them to be used against Russia proper in the initial stage.
Oh just wait for a couple of weeks. Once they realize Putin and cronies are still drunk on potato liquor and uninterested in hearing about advanced indicators on the 'SMO' going belly up, they start pounding away at Russia proper too.
Shills on russiadefense.net will probably even defend them for it. Point in case being Podlodka, a intellectual lightweight turned pro bono propagandist. A man who just yesterday - without blinking - managed to assert that Russia is intentionally losing as to show the world its interested in world peace. You can't make this sh*t up anymore.
This whole charade has moved beyond the twilight zone.
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First confirmed use od ADM160 decoy. Someone put a lot attention to make this Brit Wunderwaffe slip the defence 🤭
This is a bit of a lukewarm cope as to spin and damage control the fact away that Ukraine now has the ability and missile stocks to hit Russian assets deep in the rear (with Russian AD systems proving to be incapable to stop the attack)
If Putn only had enforced the red lines since the start of the w... Whatever, I am talking to mindless NPC's here.
The Russian Federation reserves the right to take measures to neutralize the threats that may arise due to the use of British cruise missiles by Ukraine - Russian Foreign Ministry
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This is a bit of a lukewarm cope as to spin and damage control the fact away that Ukraine now has the ability and missile stocks to hit Russian assets deep in the rear (with Russian AD systems proving to be incapable to stop the attack)
If Putn only had enforced the red lines since the start of the w... Whatever, I am talking to mindless NPC's here.
It is obviously unacceptable what happened. But to be a doom shill over this is misplaced. Russia does strikes like this daily. Does that mean it's a walk-over ? No.
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Zelensky’s office and the Ukrainian CIPSO actively conduct and monitor the effectiveness of cognitive operations against Russia.
The first military operations showed that the enemy is not ready for the psychological component of the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and continues to make mistakes, as in the Kharkov counteroffensive.
At the semantic level, yesterday we managed to sow panic from an attack by several platoons and tactical groups, which allows us to simulate the effect of a more serious attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
From Slavyngrad (who I consider to be doomers themselves)
Regarding this, whoever starts spreading doom and gloom in the chat, without confirmed information from the channel itself, will be banned instantly, without the possibility of appeal. Panic mongers, if they don't have the nerves to sustain the pressure, should avoid the channel in the next couple of days. Otherwise, you will be treated as a provocateur and removed instantly.
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@GeromanAT Now let's see if RF can hold that hill here... from there RF has a good fire position over the area south of the pond - the only way for AFU to get there is from the west #Bakhmut
@MikaelValterss1 NEWS UPDATE BAKHMUT AFTERNOON MAY 12 There have been a russian withdrawal in the area east of Bohdanivka and North of Khromove. The last days ukrainian forces has attacked the positions of the russian 9th Motorized Rifle Regiment. After heavy clashes they where forced back from the Khromove road and the recently captured trenches. At the end of yesterday UkrAF had taken area 1.
Today russian forces decided to withdraw from the open fields in area 2 to new and better defensive positions. The new russian positions are covered by much water and are shorter so they will probably be easy to defend, but it's clear that RuAF has abandoned offensive operations for at least a couple of weeks east of Bohdanivka and near the Khromove road.
The new russian lines will probably stop further ukrainian advances, but the Khromove road will again be usable for the ukrainian side. This will put more pressure on the russian forces in Bakhmut to press on towards the road junction (1) where the Khromove road (road 0506) and the local supply road from Ivanivske (Vulytsya Tolbukhina) meet in western Bakhmut. If this crossroad is taken or russian forces at least come very close to it ukrainian supplies will be cut to Bakhmut. But until then the ukrainian supply situation has improved considerably.
I think that the retreat make sense in military terms, but I'm surprised that russian defence on the northern flank where as weak as Prigozhin said in advance. This will probably strengthen Prigozhin and are a loss of face for the russian MoD. It might also increase the time it takes for Bakhmut to fall with several weeks. It 2as a well executed operation from the ukrainian forces.
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The Bakhmut counter offensive is part of a series of probes
This was already announced in advance they would do this
Theyl probe several other sectors, and the MOD should let them in
The goal is to get them to bite in Zaporozhye, theyl go for the energodar plant, and link up with forces from Orekhov moving to Tokmak
The Russian army should let them get deep into the echeloned defense they have prepared
Once the Ukrainians are committed, the Russians should spring a counter counter offensive and roll up past Zaporozhye
It's a gutsy call - but if they get em to bite, like they did in Kherson and Kharkov, the result will be the loss of the Ukrainian army east of the Dnieper, and consolidation of Novorossiya
A bigass arrow offensive will come, but they need Ukraine to bite down hard, remember those 500k guys waiting in Belarus, Belgorod, and Kherson aren't there for fun and haven't been training 6+ months for wargames
The offensive McGregor announced months ago was always coming - but Ukraine needs to bite the bait
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But still, why all the rails lines and main road are not hit daily with FAB 500's is a real mystery to me.
You can´t destroy rail lines or even roads with some bombs. You can only damage a few metres which can be repaired in a matter of hours (in case of railways) or even faster (roads).
you drop bombs and mines. you can do this every day. When they show up to repair you bomb it and kill the crews.
@Trollstoy88 before 23h Bakhmut-Chasov Yar frontline, DPR - Donbass region, 11.05.2023 22:00 MSK - AFU reclaimed the areas near the villages of Stupochky, Ivanovskoe, Khromovo and Bogdanovka, thus pushing the PMC Wagner troops away from the roads T0504 Bakhmut-Chasov Yar and O0506 through Khromovo.
Either Russian MOD is really not up to the task and lacks the courage of Wagner troops or they want to let the forces go in just enough to give them confidence to start a larger offensive and then slam the door once they have committed all of their forces.
The attack on Luhansk was allegedly launched from the Olkha MLRS from the direction of Chasova Yar Miroshnik:
The missile attack on Luhansk, carried out on May 12 by the Armed Forces of Ukraine (APU), was carried out, presumably, from the village of Chasov Yar. This was stated by the former ambassador of the Luhansk People's Republic (LPR) in Moscow Rodion Miroshnik, noting that the Ukrainian military used for this, most likely, a multiple launch rocket system (MLRS) "Alder".
In his opinion, these were hardly American MLRS HIMARS, since they would not have been able to cover such a distance.
"It is also unlikely that these new cruise missiles are British. Presumably, this is either "Tochka U" or "Alder" - a Ukrainian development that hits 120 km, " TASS quotes Miroshnik.
The ex-diplomat also noted that the Luhansk enterprise Poly-Pack ("Polypak"), which was hit by missiles, has not been working for a long time.
"There is mostly a private sector around there. The fire was mainly in a former office building, " the ex-ambassador added.
Earlier in the day, two explosions occurred in Luhansk. After that, eyewitnesses reported that before the explosions they heard a noise resembling the sound of a rocket. Retired lieutenant Colonel of the People's Militia of the LPR Andrei Marochko, in a conversation with Izvestia, clarified that the Ukrainian military probably used missiles with a firing range of 150 km during the shelling of Luhansk.
Later, Miroshnik reported that the Ukrainian Armed Forces had attacked the Poly-Pack enterprise producing polymer products in Luhansk. It was noted that a fire started on the territory.
Acting head of the LPR Leonid Pasechnik noted that the shelling of Luhansk on the holiday of May 12, when Republic Day is celebrated there — is another attempt by the Kiev regime to intimidate civilians.
The special operation to protect the Donbass, which Russian President Vladimir Putin announced on February 24, 2022, continues. The decision was made against the background of the aggravation of the situation in the region due to shelling by the Ukrainian military.
Same procedure as last year. Then it was Himars. Now it´s the british Kh-59M. Every barn catching fire will from now on be claimed on this Wunderwaffe.
sometimes it's better for Russia to go on the offensive
The whole concept of the Russian Army is to "absorb" an attack and go on the offensive after that. The Ukros will reveal their whole supply system behind the frontlines with such an attack, which will lead to massive bombing runs from the VKS (as already happening in the last weeks).
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