Russian special military operation in Ukraine #47

GarryB wrote:That is hilarious because it appears to be a suicide drone simulator but the vehicle in the TV image is Ukrainian... so he is flying his drone into a Ukrainian APC... hilarious...

Pretty sure that's just a cheeky 'shop

Against Russia with all its anti armour weapons and equipment it wont be much better protected than your average MRAP, but does have a better gun than most MRAPs.

It is certainly not nothing, but it is the equivalent of taking T-55s and T-54s to the front line and using them instead of upgraded T-72s and T-90s.

That's why I compared it with the T-55. The T-55 is better, but the point still stands; these are obsolete tanks in both cases that are not fit for use as an MBT on the 21st century battlefield

Yet Russia is still introducing the T-55s in theater despite having plenty of better tanks. Which means it has certain plans for them. Gun emplacements along the river, maybe fire support for Rosgvardia units operating against insurgents, or whatever.
The Leo-1 can potentially be used by the Ukrainians for such auxiliary roles too. They found out the hard way that that French wheeled tank is not really a tank in this day and age and shouldn't be used as one. But it can be useful as part of a recon detachment to probe the enemy and then withdraw, or take advantage if it turns out the enemy has jack defense in that area.. reconnaissance in force.

During the 1940's the Ukrainians murdered-off without any regard to age and sex entire unarmed defenseless ethnic Polish villages.

I don't think you will get a lot of sympathy here because these scumbags are now getting the full support of Polands government and military, so they seem to not only have forgiven them but actually want them to do the same to Ukrainians and Russians now...

Back then these pricks were nazis and they are nazis now... last time your people were the victim, but now you are using them to try to do to Russians and eastern Ukrainians what they did to Poles all those years ago.

You should be telling your fellow Poles they are supporting the wrong side, but I suspect they are not listening.

Frustrating for you I know... frustrating for us too.

"There's no one left to mobilize already, only children, old people, the maimed and the crippled. And by the way, they don’t want to leave, because this is their home. They're called 'waiters', many of them are waiting for the arrival of the Russian army," Matviychuk said.

I am sure they will be pleasantly surprised at the difference of how they are treated by Putins men compared with the treatment they got from Zelenskys men.

^ what is the point of internal troop transport anymore ? The vehicles just get turned inside out. Survival is more likely just riding on top. Or just use fast light side by sides or quads.

People look at artillery and think a direct hit is needed to kill, but actually a miss can shower troops sitting on top of a vehicle with lethal splinters, so riding inside armoured vehicles is important.

People sitting on top of vehicles are more situationaly aware of an ambush, but with airburst artillery and enemy small arms fire are horribly vulnerable too.

Suicide drones carrying grenades or HE Frag warheads might kill everyone sitting on top of an armoured vehicle yet not scratch a single person inside.

→ The price of the first series of kamikaze drones "Ovod" was about 40 thousand rubles($401) while the latest version is a bit more expensive and reaches 65 thousand rubles ($652).

Which shows what can be done in an MIC that does not gauge its own people for profit...

The claims the Geranium was about $800 seem rather more convincing now because the price of motors and cameras and navigation and control systems is not enormously different across the different platforms...

Yet Russia is still introducing the T-55s in theater despite having plenty of better tanks. Which means it has certain plans for them. Gun emplacements along the river, maybe fire support for Rosgvardia units operating against insurgents, or whatever.

First of all they are upgraded T-55s and T-62s they are using, not bog standard original models, so they are not as bad as they used to be.

But the question remains why keep them in storage if you don't intend to use them for anything.

No doubt they likely have enormous amounts of ammo and spare barrels and engine parts also in storage that they can use up in this conflict.

I would say in rear areas they are no better nor no worse than a more modern vehicle and I would say they would be better than Leopard 1 tanks unless they give those Leopards serious and expensive upgrades and improvements... which I would doubt because that will cut into their profits and delay their entry to the battlefield to possibly being too late to get paid... time is ticking.

The battlefield is a very long strip of land and you can't afford to have top level tanks along every kilometre, but having a gun on an armoured vehicle in some of the gaps is better than nothing... especially when the enemy is running out of armour and is using human wave attacks to compensate for a lack of armour... a 100mm or 115mm gun will be as useful as any 125mm gun in that situation.

The Leo-1 can potentially be used by the Ukrainians for such auxiliary roles too.

They have lost too much... I doubt very much they can hold the current line let alone consider any advances anywhere. What is more likely to happen is Russian forces will push forward in various places and when Kiev moves forces to stop the advance the Russians can hit them while they are moving and when they arrive and start attacking the area they left from... all the while continuing to advance where they advanced to start with and Kiev will have nothing left to move.... and the lines will start to fold and reinforcements wont be coming from anywhere.

Add in a few units with the smarts to surrender instead of being obliterated and Kievs position is not looking very good at all... and given time is only getting worse.