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    Post  par far Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:38 pm


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    Post  ALAMO Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:46 pm

    Oh my oh my oh my, what do we have here ...

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    9M22S phosphorus incendiary 122 mm rounds for Grad ...
    ... with Korean markings ...
    Guess who is giving back the favor?

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    Post  Arrow Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:01 pm

    So North Korea sends ammunition. Shoigu was there recently.
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    Post  Werewolf Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:12 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Oh my oh my oh my, what do we have here ...

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    9M22S phosphorus incendiary 122 mm rounds for Grad ...
    ... with Korean markings ...
    Guess who is giving back the favor?


    I had a little bit Korean back in University.

    Roughly it translates to:
    Welcome to the rice fields, Motherfucker

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    Post  nomadski Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:14 pm

    Yes NATO expensive weapons ! How else would one , make tons of money ? Of course , one has to complicate the stew with over complicated weapons . That is how a rich man makes money out of war . But it is not the only way . He / she has to keep a war going for a long time . So they captured " Russian spies " in the UK ? And spies obviously attract attention to themselves by erecting giant satellite dish , outside their home ! Maybe they had a number of fake passports , but so do many people , including criminal gangs . What did they exactly spy on ?  Plane spotting ? Or Train spotting , wearing an Anorak ? And Russians " tortured " Ukrainian POWs ? Of course they did , so these Russians are spies and torturers . I hate these " Russians " ! Yes that is how you keep a war going by fear mongering and Russia hate . Thanks " UK media . "

    And Russia is making expensive GPS guided shells . Trading expensive shell for shell or drone for drone  ? It is like playing poker with a rich man . No matter how many hands in poker he looses , he still wins . Because the poor man can only afford to loose a couple of times , before he is betting his house and car away ! So develop cheap weapons . Not so much satellite guided , but accurate unguided weapons . At some stage satellites will be taken out , and what happens to these shells ? Can they be used in the normal way ? Why not build more anti-satellite weapons , they are cheaper . Why not take out a satellite ? Oh , they will do the same ? Who is better placed to fight a non-technological war ? The man with the money , or the man with the men ?
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    Post  kvs Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:12 pm

    Attacking satellites is escalation since they are US and NATzO assets. Ukraine does not have any of its own.

    As for expensive GLONASS guided shells, etc, Russia does not have racket pricing like the US MIC. That does not mean that it is immune to such rot,
    but at the present time Russia is not going bankrupt with this war.

    I have heard claims that Russia cannot take on NATzO in a conventional war. Supposedly it does not have the economic resources. This is a BS claim.
    We see just how deep those NATzO economic resources are. The US can't even produce more than 24,000 155 mm shells a month. Sure, it can ramp
    up the production over a few years, but so can Russia. The only advantage NATzO has is its pool of meat. But here there are questions about how
    willing are western young males to be recruited and even drafted. Even there are more NATzO troops facing Russia, it is not likely that they can be
    fully equipped. The EU NATzO states do not have enough tanks, artillery, etc. So is the US supposed to supply everything? This is BS. The Russian
    pool of conventional weapons for any land war is not 10 times smaller than the USA. I don't think that the difference is even more than 50%. The
    US has a bigger navy, but so what. It's mighty airforce will be unable to operate freely given Russia's effective SAM systems. Even the 1980s
    legacy equipment in Ukraine was enough to prevent operation of the Russian airforce to a critical degree.

    Any war with NATzO is going to be nuclear.



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    Post  Hole Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:16 pm

    Im gradually seeing more and more Challenger 
    They got 12. I repeat TWELVE.  Rolling Eyes

    Any war with NATzO is going to be nuclear.
    And it won´t be Russia dropping the first nuclear devices.

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    Post  par far Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:22 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Oh my oh my oh my, what do we have here ...

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    9M22S phosphorus incendiary 122 mm rounds for Grad ...
    ... with Korean markings ...
    Guess who is giving back the favor?


    they can be bought on the black market, Russian intelligence agencies most likely knows where the weapons are coming from.

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    Post  Arrow Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:23 pm

    "Kartapolov announced that Russia is preparing conditions for a counteroffensive"

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    Post  Airbornewolf Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:48 pm

    Busy day on sources it seems.
    Russia is giving Skynet a run for it's money with it's drones killing all over the place.  Shocked

    RF geran strike at the Port of Reni in Odessa



    Ukrainian troops return from a failed assault near Workino in the Zaporozhye region
    "Prooooobiinggggg"


    RF FPV suicide drone takes out Ukrainian T72M1 Tank


    RF lancet catches up to Ukrainian BMP with infantry


    RF Lancet destroys Ukrainian Strela 10 air defense vehicle in the Zaporozhye region

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    Post  mnztr Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:17 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Im gradually seeing more and more Challenger 
    They got 12. I repeat TWELVE.  Rolling Eyes

    Any war with NATzO is going to be nuclear.
    And it won´t be Russia dropping the first nuclear devices.


    I think if russia goes first it will be probably nuke Lithuania and then say, we done or you wanna go?

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:26 pm

    The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation 16th August.

    ▫ In the Kupyansk direction, the assault detachments of the Zapad Group of Forces carried out offensive actions in the assigned areas of responsibility and improved the situation along the front line.

    ▫ With the support of aviation and artillery fire, nine attacks by assault groups of the 14th, 32nd, 44th mechanised and 95th Air Assault Brigades of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were repelled close to Novoselovskoye and Stelmakhovka (Lugansk People's Republic), Olshana and Sinkovka (Kharkov region). The enemy losses were up to 85 Ukrainian servicemen, two armoured fighting vehicles, four pick-up trucks, as well as self-propelled artillery systems: one U.S.-made M109 Paladin and one Polish-made Krab guns.

    ▫ In the Donetsk direction, units of the Yug Group of Forces, in close co-operation with aviation and artillery, repelled five attacks by Ukrainian Armed Forces near Krasnogorovka and Nevelskoye (Donetsk People's Republic).

    ▫ In addition, an ammunition depot of the 24th Mechanised Brigade of the AFU was destroyed near the town of Toretsk (Donetsk People's Republic). The enemy's losses in this direction amounted to up to 250 Ukrainian troops, three infantry fighting vehicles, four vehicles, one U.S.-made M777 artillery system, two D-20 howitzers, and one U.S.-made AN/TPQ-50 counter-battery radar station.

    ▫ In Krasny Liman direction, professional actions of the Tsentr Group of Forces, strikes by army aviation and artillery fire repelled an attack by assault groups of the 67th Mechanised Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Kuzmino (Lugansk People's Republic). Up to 55 Ukrainian troops, two armoured fighting vehicles, three motor vehicles, and one D-30 howitzer were destroyed.

    ▫ In South Donetsk direction, the Vostok Group of Forces, air strikes, artillery fire, and heavy flamethrowers inflicted a combined strike on the enemy near Staromayorskoye (Donetsk People's Republic). The enemy's losses amounted to over 140 Ukrainian troops, two tanks, three armoured fighting vehicles, three motor vehicles, as well as one American-made M109 Paladin self-propelled artillery system during the day.

    ▫ In Zaporozhye direction, the Russian grouping of forces, supported by army aviation and artillery, repelled two attacks by assault units of the 82nd Air Assault Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces close to Rabotino and Verbovoye (Zaporozhye region).

    ▫ In addition, two ammunition depots of the 117th Mechanised Brigade of the AFU close to Kirovo (Zaporozhye region) were hit. During the day, the enemy's losses were up to 170 Ukrainian troops, three armoured fighting vehicles, two motor vehicles, and one U.S.-made M777 artillery system.

    ▫ Up to 35 Ukrainian servicemen, as well as five motor vehicles, were destroyed as a result of fire in Kherson direction during the day.

    ▫ Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Russian Group of Forces have engaged AFU manpower and hardware in 143 areas during the day.

    ▫ In addition, an ST-68 radar station for the detection, identification, and tracking of aerial targets was destroyed close to Pervomaiskoye (Nikolayev region).

    ▫ A command post of the AFU 72nd Mechanised Brigade was eliminated close to Paraskoveyevka (Donetsk People's Republic).

    ▫ Air defence systems have shot down one Su-25 airplane of Ukrainian Air Force near Novotroitskoye (Donetsk People's Republic).

    ▫ In addition, four HIMARS and two Uragan projectiles have been intercepted during the day.

    ▫ Moreover, 26 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles have been downed close to Tavolzhanka, Tokarevka (Kharkov region), Severodonetsk, Lisichansk, Svatovo (Lugansk People's Republic), Spornoye, Volnovakha, Gorlovka, and Makeyevka (Donetsk People's Republic).

    📊 In total, 459 airplanes and 246 helicopters, 5,787 unmanned aerial vehicles, 431 air defence missile systems, 11,330 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 1,144 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 5,901 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 12,267 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:29 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:.....
    This is basically the tacit disowning of Ukraine by NATO

    You will now see end of support for transfers to Ukraine

    The counteroffensives failure, has ended with this demand by NATO - and it really highlights how deeply in trouble the west is

    The fact they are openly discussing this, means one thing: they are preparing to cut their losses,

    But why?

    Why would NATO risk such a loss of credibility? Despite narrative shaping, the world will not see it as a Ukrainian failure alone, although the burden will lie majorly with Ukrainian people and their leaders
    .......

    Because Russia is doing to them what USA was doing to Japanese Empire during WW2: they are outproducing them

    They know where this is going and figured out it's better to bail sooner when it's cheap than later when it will be pricey

    And this is why it's important for Russia to keep the pedal to the metal


    I'm only sorry we won't be seeing couple of mushroom clouds over West Ukraine for the big finale like in WW2 but I guess that you can't have everything in life...   cry


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    Post  mnztr Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:30 pm

    Tolstoy wrote:Omsktransmash has finished the modernization of a batch of T-80BVM tanks, which are now on their way to Ukraine.

    This marks the second batch of tanks in less than 30 days. The previous batch consisted of T90M tanks.

    I guess they can evaluate how big a minus the slow reverse speed is on the T-90 by comparing.

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:38 pm

    Sprut-B wrote:
    Bro… FPV drones are just not fair to infantry

    https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1691497088389881865?t=ZrqfVHaLh44WMTA1Mr-0Uw&s=19

    Landmines of 21st century

    Someone will try to ban them in Geneva lol1




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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:40 pm

    Belisarius wrote:‼🇷🇴🇺🇦 Romanians filmed an unsuccessful attempt by Ukrainian air defense to shoot down the Russian "Geran" in the port of Reni

    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/59075
    ................

    Go on little guy, you can do it!!!  cheers

    A little Dorito that could  lol1

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:42 pm

    Defense Politics Asia
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    Russian hackers alleged destroy Ukrainian SBU and Military electronic intel/comms system (15/Cool

    "ZELENSKY!! ATTENTION!!!

    We, the hackers of Solntsepek, destroyed the entire system of strategic electronic intelligence of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

    Serious damage was caused not only to Budanov's department, but also to the entire Ukrainian armed forces.

    All radio intelligence posts in the HF / VHF bands and channels of satellite communication lines were disabled, and all equipment supplied by Great Britain, Poland and other "allies" was paralyzed.

    As confirmation, we lay out the desktops of the workstations of the operators of the Polish ICAS radio intelligence complex, the Ukrainian Khortytsia complex, the British RFeye complex and other materials from the internal network.

    From today, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have to go to KONTNAHRYUK blind and deaf, which will significantly increase the number of new flags in cemeteries.

    All the documents that were in our hands were handed over to the interested law enforcement agencies and the media of Russia.

    P.S. Separately, we would like to thank the caring employees of the Main Intelligence Directorate who supported our attack."

    https://t.me/defensepolitic

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:48 pm

    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:"Otvazhnye" (Brave men) repelled AFU counterattacks in the Krasnolimanskiy direction.

    ➖ An assault group in pickup trucks from the 68th Separate Jaeger Brigade of the AFU launched an attack at the Raigorodka-Karmazinovka line, but it was successfully repelled. The enemy was eliminated through artillery fire
    ...........

    I drink Jaeger too but you don't see me doing stupid shit on the Eastern Front... dunno

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:51 am

    kvs wrote:Attacking satellites is escalation since they are US and NATzO assets.    Ukraine does not have any of its own.

    As for expensive GLONASS guided shells, etc, Russia does not have racket pricing like the US MIC.   That does not mean that it is immune to such rot,
    but at the present time Russia is not going bankrupt with this war.

    I have heard claims that Russia cannot take on NATzO in a conventional war.   Supposedly it does not have the economic resources.  This is a BS claim.
    We see just how deep those NATzO economic resources are.   The US can't even produce more than 24,000 155 mm shells a month.   Sure, it can ramp
    up the production over a few years, but so can Russia.   The only advantage NATzO has is its pool of meat.   But here there are questions about how
    willing are western young males to be recruited and even drafted.   Even there are more NATzO troops facing Russia, it is not likely that they can be
    fully equipped.   The EU NATzO states do not have enough tanks, artillery, etc.   So is the US supposed to supply everything?  This is BS.   The Russian
    pool of conventional weapons for any land war is not 10 times smaller than the USA.   I don't think that the difference is even more than 50%.   The
    US has a bigger navy, but so what.    It's mighty airforce will be unable to operate freely given Russia's effective SAM systems.    Even the 1980s
    legacy equipment in Ukraine was enough to prevent operation of the Russian airforce to a critical degree.  

    Any war with NATzO is going to be nuclear.




    NATO , and specifically the US could not mobilize its population to implement a singular COVID policy vis a vis masks and vaccines

    It became a political issue and 1 million people died

    What makes you think NATO can fight Russia in a conventional war?

    They can never mobilize their populations

    Those numbers are on paper only

    Blacks, liberal whites, and conservative whites (depending on who is president), and Latinos would all be divided on the issue- at most the volunteer army could be deployed and after Russia kills the first tens of thousands, the Americans would want to go nuclear as they are in no way implementing a draft

    Some joker journalists write that its needed and because they cannot meet recruitment numbers they should implement a limited draft

    but when George Floyd died, half the country disobeyed martial law and curfew orders, they did not obey the stay at home rules, and protested and looted (not because of economic strife, but due to moral degradation of Americans)

    When the other half saw that one half disobeyed , they crossed state lines with rifles and killed each other in protests and counter protests - these same people burned down police headquarters , they would burn down recruitment offices

    Russia can take NATO on conventionally and win, and even Ukraine if it had the industrial base and economic resources because of the willingness to sacrifice individual liberties for social stability

    USA doesn't have the conventional resources to fight a total war or make the sacrifices required

    It's entire modus operandi is to precisely avoid costly sacrifices of human life - even though COVID killed 1 million of them, but that's because they would rather die then to obey any authority, it's the same with their guns, they would never use them against the government , and keep them because they hate each other

    Russia is a more disciplined state capable to militarize and mobilize its population

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:03 am

    NATO not in this war! Unknown location.

    Note that Radakin, alone, has creases in his fatigues.  Laughing

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    🗞️Ukrainian General Staff held meeting with Supreme  Allied Commander Europe and Commander, U.S. European Command Gen. Cavoli, Chief of the British Defence Staff Admiral Radakin, and representatives of partner delegations.

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    The officer on the left was the CO of the 95 airmobile brigade, in 2014. This brigade made a 300 km raid deep inside Russian held territory.

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    Yes, Lt. Gen. Mykhailo Zabrodskyi. He's now deputy to Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces Valerii Zaluzhny.

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    The shocked Look on NATO faces & their Negative Body language is sad to see,they know,the Counter offensive has failed & its obvious their to influence this so called leadership, its time to negotiate

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    Post  ucmvulcan Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:42 am

    kvs wrote:Attacking satellites is escalation since they are US and NATzO assets.    Ukraine does not have any of its own.

    As for expensive GLONASS guided shells, etc, Russia does not have racket pricing like the US MIC.   That does not mean that it is immune to such rot,
    but at the present time Russia is not going bankrupt with this war.

    I have heard claims that Russia cannot take on NATzO in a conventional war.   Supposedly it does not have the economic resources.  This is a BS claim.
    We see just how deep those NATzO economic resources are.   The US can't even produce more than 24,000 155 mm shells a month.   Sure, it can ramp
    up the production over a few years, but so can Russia.   The only advantage NATzO has is its pool of meat.   But here there are questions about how
    willing are western young males to be recruited and even drafted.   Even there are more NATzO troops facing Russia, it is not likely that they can be
    fully equipped.   The EU NATzO states do not have enough tanks, artillery, etc.   So is the US supposed to supply everything?  This is BS.   The Russian
    pool of conventional weapons for any land war is not 10 times smaller than the USA.   I don't think that the difference is even more than 50%.   The
    US has a bigger navy, but so what.    It's mighty airforce will be unable to operate freely given Russia's effective SAM systems.    Even the 1980s
    legacy equipment in Ukraine was enough to prevent operation of the Russian airforce to a critical degree.  

    Any war with NATzO is going to be nuclear.




    Even the meat pool thing is not necessarily in NATO's figures. I do think this thing in Ukraine is already part of a world war, but remember in terms of populations most of the world is either neutral (a right that the west is not respecting and that is causing the Imperial bloc all sorts of problems, see west Africa for instance), or pro Russian. The global south knows the NATO bag of tricks; sanctions, starvation coups, civil war, economic hitmen, and assassination and increasingly in the "global rebellion against the 'rules based world order' " they are gathering up the courage to stand with Russia.

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    Post  Krepost Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:29 am

    Remember STRUNA? The hero soldier with the red backpack in Mariupol?

    Here he is:

    https://tvzvezda.ru/video/news/20238151822-Pq56m.html

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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:46 am

    It is said that Maidan offensive in Kleshcheevka (south of Artyomovsk) lost momentum and Russian forces managed to push them back.

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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:55 am

    https://tass.com/world/1660755

    Very Happy

    Ukrainian air defenses cannot intercept Russian Kh-22 cruise missiles, top brass admits

    Yury Ignat earlier said that Ukrainian air defenses were also helpless against Kinzhal hypersonic missiles, Iskander tactical missiles, missiles of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system, Oniks supersonic cruise missiles, Kh-31P air-launched anti-radiation missiles and rockets of the Smerch MLRS

    "Not a single [Russian] Kh-22 cruise missile has been destroyed by Ukrainian air defenses not only over the past night but also over the entire period of military operations," he said.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:24 am

    higurashihougi wrote:https://tass.com/world/1660755
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    "Not a single [Russian] Kh-22 cruise missile has been destroyed by Ukrainian air defenses not only over the past night but also over the entire period of military operations," he said.

    but, but  they did intercept all Kinzhals with Patriots earlier this year! Klitshko even made a selfie lol1 lol1 lol1

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