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    Post  nomadski Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:28 am

    @KVS

    Well Ark and others explained it. The Yanks and NATO do not have the capacity for big losses in any war. This was demonstrated recently in Iraq. The ghosts of Vietnam were not exorcised. In fact, with a loss of 4000 men, the Yanks withdrew. Ditto Afghanistan and hence a plutonic approach in Libya and Syria. But they still have industrial capacity, and all these rumors about them lacking capacity or stockpiled Ammo, is not credible. That is why I say that the advantage rests with Russia in asymmetrical battle that relies on human resources and not financial or technological against  GAYTO. As far as sattelites are concerned or other targets, plausible deniability and nuclear deterrent will be enough to stop any direct confrontations with NATO. But they will prove very convincing political tool. Same as Russia not going to overt war, over NS pipelines. Now satellites collide or disintegrates in orbit! Sharks chew Internet cables! Yes they do! If Orcas play tag with Spanish fishing Boats.
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    Post  flamming_python Thu Aug 17, 2023 9:15 am

    higurashihougi wrote: missiles of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system,

    They are certainly helpless against their own wayward missiles, that's for sure

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    Post  Ispan Thu Aug 17, 2023 9:21 am

    After an absence due to work and injury, here's a compilation of reports and operational summary of the past two weeks

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2023/08/16/informe-de-situacion-16-08-2023/

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Aug 17, 2023 10:01 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    higurashihougi wrote: missiles of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system,

    They are certainly helpless against their own wayward missiles, that's for sure

    They will continue this stupidity as a standard psyops.

    On the other hand ...
    https://t.me/intelslava/50614

    Pay attention, that this target is being monitored by multiple recon drones simultaneously.
    It tells a lot about the saturation of drones in Russkie disposal.

    Is it only me, or Strykers burn even better than the usual stuff?

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Aug 17, 2023 10:52 am

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    So we have the last two of Ukraine’s premier brigades (the 82nd and 46th) in the field on the Orikhiv-Tokmak axis, likely entering combat at scale soon - already a few Marders and Strykers have gone over. Probably an intensified Ukrainian push coming very soon.

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    Post  Hole Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:24 am

    Arrow wrote:"Kartapolov announced that Russia is preparing conditions for a counteroffensive"
    Which would be a "counter-counteroffensive"  lol1

    Airbornewolf wrote:RF geran strike at the Port of Reni in Odessa
    Arab Wedding style air defence didn´t help.

    Arkanghelsk wrote:USA doesn't have the conventional resources to fight a total war or make the sacrifices required
    To fight Russia the US would have to bring all of her forces from all over the world to Europe.
    Which would lead to a collapse of american rule in a lot of places.

    ALAMO wrote:Is it only me, or Strykers burn even better than the usual stuff?
    Must be the tyres.  lol1

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    Post  Belisarius Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:34 am

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    clown khokhols pose against the background of their own tank PT-91 Twardy, which was previously destroyed by an FPV drone.
    https://t.me/intelslava/50612

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:57 am

    This could be the latest drone boat. Does it look familiar to anyone?

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:03 pm

    Top marks for speed of exit Laughing

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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:15 pm

    Drones should be used for laser homing. Sending in soldiers to do it defeats the purpose of long range artillery. Also unlike missiles, guided artillery cannot change their course or even maneuver.

    They are, but as you might be able to work out, for the Soviets/Russians using a laser guided shell is complex and requires precision... you are essentially still aiming at the target and need to do all the calculations for the shell to get a near direct hit because the payload only steers the last few seconds of flight and the shot needs to be properly coordinated so the laser turns on at exactly the right time... not too early and not too late.

    So develop cheap weapons . Not so much satellite guided , but accurate unguided weapons . At some stage satellites will be taken out , and what happens to these shells ?

    Actually satellite guided shells should be relatively cheap and during this conflict should work just fine.

    Landmines of 21st century

    Someone will try to ban them in Geneva

    Now that it is not a western advantage they might try.

    The guy was blown to bits... of all the ways to die I would say that would be very quick...

    Arab Wedding style air defence didn´t help.

    Wouldn't be much fun for the people living down range of all that AA fire either...


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Aug 17, 2023 2:13 pm

    Hole wrote:
    To fight Russia the US would have to bring all of her forces from all over the world to Europe.
    Which would lead to a collapse of american rule in a lot of places.

    Even if they did, they would have to conduct a general mobilization

    And that's where everything would go bad for them

    Their greatest generation was willing to sacrifice and go to war for patriotism and propaganda tolerating dead and wounded

    But their current fighting age population is too paranoid and cynical to the point of conspiracy,

    Look at their internal political battle, currently one candidate is about to go to prison for violating some internal protocols

    And the current presidents son, is on trial for major corruption

    Their own presidential leaders are fighting each other !!!

    Same as their citizens!

    They are a divided people, and simply could not mobilize to protect themselves! Whether it's COVID, war, or internal threats

    Everything for them is a political issue which causes their people to be divided

    If you mobilize one guy, the other guy will say why are you drafting such a racist?

    And if you drag a rural good old boy American off the street you are likely to be met with a MAGA insurrection

    Conversely drag an urbanite to a recruitment office, and they will torch the patriarchy offices

    What I'm saying is not a joke, America is really like this

    Look how Maui, Hawaii burned , it looks like Bakhmut or even when Chemical trains were derailed and spilled literal chemical agents into a city !

    The humanitarian aid itself became a contentious issue of political self interest!

    Those people are cursed

    The only cause they would fight each other for:

    1. Pedophilia
    2. Transgenderism
    3. Racism
    4. Feminism
    5. Guns
    6. Immigration
    7. Drugs

    Those topics are literally the only things they care about, and would more likely take up positions against each other , than Russia

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:01 pm

    Belisarius wrote:
    clown khokhols pose against the background of their own tank PT-91 Twardy, which was previously destroyed by an FPV drone.
    https://t.me/intelslava/50612

    It must be some mental issue, as the net is full of films they are taking with their own burned stuff. There was one with two Leopards nicely burned where they were posing in front of.
    Tiktok warriors.

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    Post  AlfaT8 Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:05 pm

    Wow, seploying F-16s is gonna take longer than the F-35.
    Western arms production aint what used to be.

    Ukraine’s ‘high hopes’ for F-16s dashed

    Top US military officials have said the aircraft transfer could take years to complete
    [url=Ukraine%E2%80%99s %E2%80%98high hopes%E2%80%99 for F-16s dashed https://www.rt.com/news/581385-ukraine-f16-next-year/]Ukraine’s ‘high hopes’ for F-16s dashed https://www.rt.com/news/581385-ukraine-f16-next-year/[/url]

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    Post  T-47 Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:28 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Oh my oh my oh my, what do we have here ...

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    9M22S phosphorus incendiary 122 mm rounds for Grad ...
    ... with Korean markings ...
    Guess who is giving back the favor?


    Russia is buying 122mm shells from NK since last summer but this particular image looks like photoshop to me. But that's just my guess.


    Also people should stop this dumbassary shit of certain countries "giving" or "sending" this and that ammo to Russia. Nobody is "giving" or "sending" anything. Russia is BUYING them with either cash or some other product. A full fledged trade here. When you go to the store for groceries, I'm pretty sure the store owner doesn't simply "give" you the items you need, you pay for them.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:29 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:Wow, seploying F-16s is gonna take longer than the F-35.
    Western arms production aint what used to be.

    Just like the Abrams, too much to take out incase the Russians get hold of it. We have to remember that these are wonderweapons Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:34 pm

    I know we all enjoy a big 'bang' Laughing

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    (Dnepropetrovsk region)⭐ The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation published a video of a missile attack on three cars with ammunition and unloading trucks at the indicated location at the Mezhevaya railway station in the Dnipropetrovsk region

    ⚠ This video is also interesting in that the shooting from the UAV was carried out at a distance of more than⚡ 55 km from the line of contact.



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    Post  JohninMK Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:36 pm

    T-47 wrote:
    Also people should stop this dumbassary shit of certain countries "giving" or "sending" this and that ammo to Russia. Nobody is "giving" or "sending" anything. Russia is BUYING them with either cash or some other product. A full fledged trade here. When you go to the store for groceries, I'm pretty sure the store owner doesn't simply "give" you the items you need, you pay for them.

    Well timed comment Smile

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    #Ukraine: The Russian Military now uses ammunition made by 🇲🇲 Myanmar - Burmese 120ER 120mm HE mortar bombs recently appeared in Russian service.

    Previously, no transfers of ammunition from Myanmar to Russia have been reported.

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    Not sure why this is in English, maybe standard export product?

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    #Russia / #Ukraine 🇷🇺🇺🇦: A new photo posted by a combatant of #Russian Forces.

    The photo displays a 122mm HE D30 projectile originally produced and supplied by #Iran 🇮🇷 in 2023; and used by an artillery unit of RuAF.

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    Post  Mir Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:52 pm

    ALAMO wrote:

    Is it only me, or Strykers burn even better than the usual stuff?

    Aluminum bought on special on Alibaba pirat

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:53 pm

    Russkie are using PPP at full swing Laughing
    Those Grad missiles looks old, and the combined load of Chinese round and Soviet charge revealed a while ago suggests that someone is refurbishing/assembling the boxes. My guess is that they are just utilizing old ammo in most of the cases, and the cost of it is a bargain.
    Considering who's stock they have at their disposal - it is an unlimited supply.
    Just for the records, Myanmar MoD speaks decent Russian and is a graduate of the Soviet war college. They are all just giving back a favor.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Aug 17, 2023 6:48 pm

    Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation (17 August 2023)

    ▫ In Donetsk direction, units of the Yug Group of Forces repelled 4 attacks by AFU near Zaliznyanskoye, Staromikhailovka, and Krasnogorovka DPR. The assault detachments of the Russian grouping of forces conducted successful offensives and improved the situation along the front line.

    A missile strike on the Mezhevaya station (Dnepropetrovsk) destroyed a military train with ammunition.

    The enemy lost up to 310 servicemen, 1 tank, 3 AFVs, 9 motor vehicles, and a D-20 artillery in this direction throughout the day.

    ▫ In Kupyansk direction, units of the Zapad Group of Forces improved the situation along the front line.

    During the day, 6 attacks of assault groups of the 14th Mechanised, 25th Airborne, and 95th Air Assault brigades of the AFU were repelled in the areas of Olshana, Sinkovka (Kharkov) and Novosyolovskoye LPR.

    During the day, up to 125 servicemen were eliminated, as well as 2 AFVs, 2 pick-up trucks, 1 Tyulpan self-propelled mortar, 1 M777 artillery system, and 1 M109 Paladin self-propelled artillery system.

    ▫ In Krasny Liman direction, units of the Tsentr Group of Forces repelled an attack by an assault group of the AFU 42nd Mechanised Brigade near Kuzmino.

    Comprehensive fire damage was inflicted on the enemy close to Kremennaya and Chervonaya Dibrova LPR.

    Up to 55 servicemen, 2 AFVs, 3 vehicles, 1 Akatsiya self-propelled artillery unit, and 2 D-30 howitzers were destroyed.

    ▫ In the South Donetsk direction, the Vostok Group of Forces inflicted a comprehensive fire defeat on the enemy near Priyutnoye (Zaporozhye), Staromayorskoye and Rovnopol DPR.

    More than 175 servicemen were neutralised, as well as 2 tanks, 3 AFVs, 2 motor vehicles, 1 D-20 howitzer, and 2 Gvozdika self-propelled artillery units.

    ▫ In Zaporozhye direction, units of the Russian grouping of forces repelled an enemy attack and inflicted a comprehensive fire defeat on the assault detachments of the AFU 46th Airmobile Brigade close to Rabotino (Zaporozhye).

    The enemy losses totalled up to 195 servicemen, 4 Stryker APCs, 2 IFVs, 3 motor vehicles, 1 M777 artillery system, 1 FH-70 gun, as well as 2 Msta-B and 1 D-20 howitzers.

    ▫ In Kherson direction, Ukrainian units lost up to 30 servicemen, 3 motor vehicles, and 1 D-30 howitzer as a result of a fire attack.

    Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Russian Group of Forces have engaged AFU manpower and hardware in 138 areas during the day.

    ▫ Two AFU drone control points were hit in the areas of the settlements of Lastochkino DPR and Ivanovskoye (Zaporozhye). A command and observation post of a unit of the AFU 67th Mechanised Brigade and an ammunition depot were hit near Serebryanka DPR.

    Russian air defence forces have intercepted 1 HIMARS MLRS projectile during the day.

    In addition, 18 UAVs were intercepted in the areas of Zhitlovka LPR, Soledar, Nikolayevka, Zarya, Orlinskoye DPR, Mirnoye, (Zaporozhye), and Olshana (Kharkov).

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    Post  Sprut-B Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:07 pm

    T-47 wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:Oh my oh my oh my, what do we have here ...

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #47 - Page 15 Photo219

    9M22S phosphorus incendiary 122 mm rounds for Grad ...
    ... with Korean markings ...
    Guess who is giving back the favor?


    Russia is buying 122mm shells from NK since last summer but this particular image looks like photoshop to me. But that's just my guess.


    Also people should stop this dumbassary shit of certain countries "giving" or "sending" this and that ammo to Russia. Nobody is "giving" or "sending" anything. Russia is BUYING them with either cash or some other product. A full fledged trade here. When you go to the store for groceries, I'm pretty sure the store owner doesn't simply "give" you the items you need, you pay for them.

    I think Russia is currently focusing on mass producing Krasnopol-M2 and other guided artillery shells. So, they are getting regular artillery shells from Myanmar to make up for the production shortage of dumb artillery shells.

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