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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:06 am


    China and India ‚unfortunately, have low intellectual potential, thats why they are not able to analyze the consequences of their actions, said Podolyak, adviser to Zelensky’s Presidential office.
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    + “China should be interested in the disappearance of Russia. Because it is an archaic country that drags China into unnecessary conflicts. China could be one of the dominant states,” says adviser to Ermak.

    lol1 lol1 lol1

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    Post  sepheronx Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:18 am

    All the while now western countries are threatening China and calling them the new enemy of the century.

    Then again, no one in Ukraine can be called smart

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    Post  GarryB Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:29 am

    "President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has stated that cases of corruption in Ukraine are not related to the assistance from partners. -Ukrainskia Pravda"

    Translation to English: Now we know who are the main culprits of corruption in Ukraina.

    They also say they are right and Russia is the bad guy and that Russia is losing.

    They had a fake clean out of obvious thieves and those that remain will continue to steal and ship money to overseas accounts... which the west will eventually find and seize in reparations for all the money they have spent.

    Ukraine however will not get its men back.

    (To be clear there is lots of corruption at the wests end so there will be no accountability at all because the rich and powerful in the west used this to get slightly richer and they don't want to be found out and put in jail or lose some money so a scapegoat has been found and they will pretend the problem is solved. )

    I hope Russia has enough of its carrier-fleet-destroying missiles ready. Just in case..

    That is not the problem, the problem is that months later gas pipelines will mysteriously and spontaneously explode... for no apparent reason, and despite enormous volumes of greenhouse gases being released the western media will again remain pretty silent on the matter... and probably blame Russia and then no one.

    46 launchers sounds like quite a salvo potential

    Each vehicle carries two missiles, so that is 96 targets can be attacked immediately.

    Head of the medical service of the national battalion “Da Vinci’s Wolves”.

    Not enough for the medical guy to say this... the force commander and other commanders need to say this too before it starts to actually matter.

    China and India ‚unfortunately, have low intellectual potential, thats why they are not able to analyze the consequences of their actions, said Podolyak, adviser to Zelensky’s Presidential office

    And the west tries to convince us they are not nazis at heart... in one sentence he insults 3+ billion people... I am beginning to think they might lose this conflict...

    The Irony is that China and India are not actively supporting either side, but by not following western sanctions and not supplying Kiev with weapons they are actually being neutral... which is all Russia really wants from them... unlike the EU and HATO and countries that used to pretend to be neutral like Sweden and Finland and the Swiss who have joined western sanctions and picked Kiev as the side they support. That wont bite them in the arse...

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    Post  Regular Wed Sep 13, 2023 2:41 am

    China is supporting Russia, actively or not, this can always change.
    India is earning big bucks from this war.

    Making enemies, especially with China that has monopolies in drones is… very brave

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    Post  PhSt Wed Sep 13, 2023 4:09 am

    CNN has reported about the production of FAKE equipment by Ukraine to confuse Russian strike operations.

    The company involved in the production is called Metinvest. I was able to geolocate two of its plants.

    One facility is located in the city of Khmelnytskyi

    coordinates:
    49.452421, 26.919988


    While the second is located in Vinnytsia

    coordinates:
    49.251367, 28.478882



    I hope the Russian mod takes interest in my post and send in a couple of Gerans, Kalibers and FOABs in these locations


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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:11 am

    PhSt wrote:CNN has reported about the production of FAKE equipment by Ukraine to confuse Russian strike operations.

    The company involved in the production is called Metinvest. I was able to geolocate two of its plants.

    One facility is located in the city of Khmelnytskyi

    coordinates:
    49.452421, 26.919988


    While the second is located in Vinnytsia

    coordinates:
    49.251367, 28.478882



    I hope the Russian mod takes interest in my post and send in a couple of Gerans, Kalibers and FOABs in these locations


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    Your intent is noble, but if Russian military intel has to rely on social media and the Clinton News Network giving away military secrets to do its job, there is no way Russia can win this war. Fortunately, Russian military intel has mostly demonstrated that its competent in its job, but yeah they need to take out these plants. Or, and this would be hilarious, they should do what I think it was an RAF pilot did to the Germans when the Nazis used decoys, namely dropping ordinance made of wood on them as a kinda troll move to say, yeah we know you have decoys and they don't work anymore than any of the other overpriced garbage you have. Then they should blow up the factories that make this crap just for fun.

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    Post  nomadski Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:36 am

    Looks like these decoys are so elaborate , that they cost a tidy sum to make . Perhaps they should be allowed in their activity , as long as means exist to identify fake units . Better than letting them know that we know , the fakes , is to not to let them know that we know ! Perhaps an occasional low cost attack , on a fake ,can keep them busy in their fruitless and costly endeavour . This also allows us in identifying their real plans . Drones can photograph structures from very close range , identifying minute detail like manufacturer serial numbers , difficult or impossible to fake . Alternatively military planners , can safely assume all hardware to be real , when launching offensives . Simply have enough firepower to destroy all real and fake soldiers . Drone can fire round into fake and photo the result ! QED .

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    Post  Backman Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:21 am

    Nuland and Blinkin already announced what they are going to do. There is going to be a flurry of missiles into Russia and soft targets in the Black sea.

    I know it is just a propaganda attack but the motherfckers already hit Sevastopol just now. Someone said on telegram- If satellite images are confirmed , Ropucha Class and Kilo Class were in the Dry dock. 24 people injured.

    The Russian MOD official statement: "Tonight the Ukrainian Armed Forces launched a strike with ten cruise missiles at the ship repair plant named after Ordzhonikidze in the city of Sevastopol and three unmanned boats from a detachment of ships of the Black Sea Fleet on the sea crossing.

    Air defense systems shot down seven cruise missiles, and the patrol ship Vasily Bykov destroyed all unmanned boats. As a result of being hit by enemy cruise missiles, two ships undergoing repairs were damaged"

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:51 am

    Unfortunately Russia is weak. These attacks would not happen if Russia was a real superpower.

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    Post  rfan Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:05 am

    And it did.  And much more is to come.  They do not fear any retaliation (because this has been promised and never delivered) and now NATO can directly attack the Black Sea Fleet and Crimea from Ukraine.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:27 am

    rfan wrote:And it did.  And much more is to come.  They do not fear any retaliation (because this has been promised and never delivered) and now NATO can directly attack the Black Sea Fleet and Crimea from Ukraine.
    And why should they fear any retaliation? The West is probably correct that if they attack Kremlin directly Russia would still not retaliate.

    I gave up actively supporting Russia for this reason. Why should I spend time and energy to support someone that is not willing to stand up for himself.

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    Post  Backman Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:39 am

    Karl Haushofer wrote:Unfortunately Russia is weak. These attacks would not happen if Russia was a real superpower.
    Stfu. It is a calculated choice by Putin. It has nothing to do with Russia being weak

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:41 am

    Backman wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:Unfortunately Russia is weak. These attacks would not happen if Russia was a real superpower.
    Stfu. It is a calculated choice by Putin. It has nothing to do with Russia being weak
    I have heard this before. Playing the long game, 5d chess etc.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:56 am

    Hahaha... so a superpower like the US has never been touched by any sort of terrorism.... well partially that was probably because they fund and control the terrorists, but 11/9 was sort of terrorism wasn't it?

    No one is immune from terrorism, but terrorism is the desperate act of a weakling that can fight any other way.

    Kiev is being crushed and so they mount terrorism attacks which do bugger all damage but always make the headlines and get internet trolls really active.

    They know they are doomed and they are lashing out... by now they have worked out their role is to die and so they are trying to strike fear into the Russian public to try to get them to object to their destruction... ironically their acts of desperation just confirm this was the only course of action that makes sense.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:57 am

    Every single mass shooting is an act of internal terrorism.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:05 am

    It is funny that Kiev mimics the US and the EU and HATO... when Russia talks about talks and negotiations and agreements Kiev just tries to inflict damage so they have a win so they can start talks from a position of strength with which to "negotiate" with... but they don't really mean negotiate... they mean make demands.

    Kiev is demanding Russia withdraw from all 5 former Ukrainian regions and they have said if they got Crimea back the first thing they would do is eliminate all the pro Russian elements there... they admit to intentions of genocide...

    Well the longer this takes the less Kiev will be getting to pick from and when their military realises they are the losers in all of this I suspect the country will collapse from the inside out.

    Putin is ready to negotiate but wont have terms dictated at him, so Russia is going to be dealing with this on the battlefield for however long this takes.

    The end of next year Biden will be out of office and before that he will likely want some great victory that he can use for the election, but even then it is not likely and he wont get elected for starting WWIII.

    The Europeans are going to fold like folding deck chairs on a sinking ship... which is probably a rather good description... a few governments change and a few more protests from your Ukrainian guests about their treatment and the resources allocated for them and also being sent to war in Ukraine against their will should be rather interesting... but of course winter is coming...
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    Post  Arrow Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:08 am

    The main base of the Black Sea fleet in Sevastopol attacked.  It appears that the air defense shield was weak as most of the storm Shadow missiles penetrated. Shocked
    The Russian AD would not be able to withstand a massive cruise missile attack on Russia by NATO.


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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:11 am

    1. So allegedly Nazis hit a sub pen, well this is a war and subs are a legitimate military target. Sucks but in war shit happens. Say Karla, was the US weak when Al Qaeda hit the Cole and the Pentagon? No, of course not. Nor was the US weak when the Beirut barracks were hit or the barracks in Saudi Arabia were hit by terrorists. Like I said, in wars, smos, police actions or whatever else you call them, shit happens and people get hurt and die.

    Still, and this is of vital importance

    2. What changes? I mean the Ukes issue a new commemorative postage, the NAFO mutts wank off, Zelensky gets to sweep under the rug the fact that his offensive has been an unmitigated disaster and that while evil Russia has elections in the occupied terroritories, democratic Ukraine is postponing parliamentary and presidential elections indefinitely. I shouldn't have to tell you that when I call Russia evil, use the word occupied, and call Ukraine democratic that I am being sarcastic, and that there is no longer even united support in the G20 for this proxy war. So yeah, its been a disastrous week for Ukraine and NATO and a terror attack doesn't change that

    Also important

    3. What is the point of posting fearmongering posts on a site like this? Are you trying to demoralize those who stand with Russia? Is this done because you are a paid stooge or just an idiot? Maybe its both. Just saying what it looks like.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:23 am

    The West is probably correct that if they attack Kremlin directly Russia would still not retaliate.

    They would respond like a country... perhaps you are used to the US reacting like a child. The US spent trillions of dollars and 20 years in Afghanistan to get Osama Bin Laden... who was in Pakistan... was that really a good response? Was it money well spent?

    Now they are using their currency as a weapon which makes it less desirable as an international currency because it is not safe any more... it is the reason they can print it as much as they want, but when that ends then the US is in real trouble... and who is going to be their friend when they have no money for bribes?

    No one.

    And the EU will be cancelling all those sanctions against everyone pleading to be allowed to join BRICS... as African and Asian and Central and South American countries join, how many will want white poor European countries to join that will demand the world court in Europe be respected and their control of this and that also be respected...

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:23 am

    Karl Haushofer wrote:Unfortunately Russia is weak. These attacks would not happen if Russia was a real superpower.

    Would the 9/11 attacks still happen if America was a superpower?

    I wish someone would ban barely disguised NATO trolls such as yourself already. None of you contribute anything of substance just your primitive 'demoralization' campaigns on the behalf of your handlers.


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    Post  flamming_python Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:28 am

    Arrow wrote:The main base of the Black Sea fleet in Sevastopol attacked.  It appears that the air defense shield was weak as most of the storm Shadow missiles penetrated. Shocked
    The Russian AD would not be able to withstand a massive cruise missile attack on Russia by NATO.

    It was a ship repair plant. They found a weak spot after 18 months of trying. No matter, the ships will be repaired and no-one seems to have been killed.

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    Post  Arrow Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:31 am

    It was a ship repair plant. They found a weak spot. No matter, the ships will be repaired and no-one seems to have been killed. wrote:

    Sevastopol should be very well protected. I understand that some droms can break through, but not Storm Shadow.

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    Post  TMA1 Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:34 am

    Note the sudden arrival of quiet accounts right during a PR attack. Also getting lazy with the demoralization. Might as well just post *...not like this bros* copypasta repeatedly.

    Also stormshadows combined with the full might of natosphere intelligence WILL mean that attacks sometimes succeed. Just because they memed the hell out of western kit does NOT mean it should be underestimated. Stormshadow/scalp is still a very formidable weapon system used correctly.

    Also Russia is learning from these attacks. Note how new weapons are much more successful at first. Air defense systems receive software updates, further training and commands are given, and systems are moved around. You then inevitably see the successes drop off, often very dramatically.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:48 am

    ucmvulcan wrote:1. So allegedly Nazis hit a sub pen, well this is a war and subs are a legitimate military target.  Sucks but in war shit happens.  Say Karla, was the US weak when Al Qaeda hit the Cole and the Pentagon? No, of course not.  Nor was the US weak when the Beirut barracks were hit or the barracks in Saudi Arabia were hit by terrorists.  Like I said, in wars, smos, police actions or whatever else you call them, shit happens and people get hurt and die.

    The last time I remember, they had been hit by a dozen ballistic missiles fired by Iran, with tens of casualties and half of a base leveled.
    I can remind myself of how Iranians took down a Globalhawk.
    And some Reaper.
    Or a navy team taken prison, sitting calmly on carpets drinking tea, and telling how the US is a bad guy.
    And the Chinese downing the P-8 ramming it.
    Somehow they didn't have much to say later, so I guess must be weak as hell Laughing

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