Russian special military operation in Ukraine #48

Arrow wrote:

Sevastopol should be very well protected.  I understand that some droms can break through, but not Storm Shadow.

It is well fucking protected. They used ATACMS , storm shadows and improvised s-200 missiles. 7-10 missiles

... while S-200 missile proved to be immune to a whole Israeli air defense, landing 20 km from Dimona after multiple Jewish missiles failed to intercept it.
Jews have a shitty air defence, obviously

Edit : I can't fukin' stand it

Even if the thing was figured out as a propaganda campaign, couldn't have been better than that

A few days ago banderovits released a huge flag of 404 in Doneck area as a propaganda spin.





It landed just in the middle of a ... pig farm

Karl Haushofer wrote:Unfortunately Russia is weak. These attacks would not happen if Russia was a real superpower.

Here is a visual reminder

Mir wrote:
Here is a visual reminder

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

There is still in 3Q23 and 4Q23 ahead, you know ...

Mir wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:Unfortunately Russia is weak. These attacks would not happen if Russia was a real superpower.

Here is a visual reminder

This was an inside job, false flag.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:China and India ‚unfortunately, have low intellectual potential, thats why they are not able to analyze the consequences of their actions, said Podolyak, adviser to Zelensky’s Presidential office.

Certainly not China. It is a superpower. Most of the major scientific developments are coming from China. They have already launched 6G services while the West is struggling with 5G.

India is too poor a country to be a meaningful ally of Russia. But if these statements of the Ukro Nazis rub China the wrong way they might immediately start supplying weapons to Russia.

Speaking about changes to the Ukro society 18+ months into war, here is something to consider :



The latest corruption survey made in 404 leaves no doubts. Cocainsky is considered directly responsible of corruption by 78% of adult Ukrainians.
What is the most interesting part is a fact that young Ukrainians <29y/o share the same opinion by 70% of the voters.
Till very recently, it was a young generation that backed the Zelensky regime, seeing him as their own candidate. Such a blow in this target group is an earthquake.
Only 18% disagreed with his direct responsibility.
Hause of cards is falling apart.
There are more and more indirect suggestions to the matter.
This month only, I have watched multiple interviews carried out with front soldiers at some discussion panels. Hardly any of them speaks about any kind of victory, while some of them were openly speaking about a defeat.
Interesting ...

From Backman Vikktop55 in post 599

Attack on Sevastopol.  The Ukrainian Armed Forces again used American AGM 88-HARM missiles and converted S-200.

The use of repurposed anti radar and SAMs seems to confirm the UkAF's lack of stocks of Storm Shadow and maybe launch aircraft.

ucmvulcan wrote:What is the point of posting fearmongering posts on a site like this? Are you trying to demoralize those who stand with Russia? Is this done because you are a paid stooge or just an idiot? Maybe its both.  Just saying what it looks like.

Admins need to clamp down on these posts. There are several posters with multiple handles especially those from India like Sujoy. There whole purpose to be on this form is to create a rift between Russia and China and promote their own ideology. One of those Indian named miketheterrible was busted a few months ago for creating multiple accounts. About time posters like Sujoy and all those Indian handles that he and his fellow supporters have created be banned.

JohninMK wrote:From Backman Vikktop55 in post 599

Attack on Sevastopol.  The Ukrainian Armed Forces again used American AGM 88-HARM missiles and converted S-200.

The use of repurposed anti radar and SAMs seems to confirm the UkAF's lack of stocks of Storm Shadow and maybe launch aircraft.

It is not necessary that.
They are simply trying to increase the chances.
Every single cruise missile provided to them is easy prey for Russkie defense of the Crimean Penisula.
The only flight path is above the water, being easy to find&intercept.
They lack the range to be fired at some fancy trajectory, which is a case of Russkie using long range Ch-101 or Calibrs. In some air raid alarms, it is clear that Ruski missiles are changing the flight direction multiple times in flight, attacking from an opposite direction.
So their only chance is speed, and both HARM and 5V21/28 can do a high Mach number being the only tool to defeat the defence.

Tolstoy wrote:
Admins need to clamp down on these posts. There are several posters with multiple handles especially those from India like Sujoy. There whole purpose to be on this form is to create a rift between Russia and China and promote their own ideology. One of those Indian named miketheterrible was busted a few months ago for creating multiple accounts. About time posters like Sujoy and all those Indian handles that he and his fellow supporters have created be banned.

Give the guy a break.
He is Indian. Sure his perspective will be India-heavy oriented. And sure he can have some issues with the Chinese.
But I can hardly remember any of his opinions breaking any civilized rules other than the fact that he doesn't like the Chinese policy.
On the other hand, you are an obvious racist, which was revealed multiple times.
If someone needs to be trimmed, those are people like yourself, not Sujoy.

Karl Haushofer wrote:
This was an inside job, false flag.

One of you better comments.

It seems it had one prime objective, to get the Patriot Act and War on Terror in place. OK two

Unfortunately Russia is weak. These attacks would not happen if Russia was a real superpower.

The power disparity between Russia and Ukraine pales in comparison to the power disparity between the US and the Taliban, the Taliban who attacked an American air base in 2012, in Afghanistan, using just 15 men and destroyed 6 Harriers and damaged 2 others.
If what you say is true then there is no superpower in this world, but the reality is that no matter how strong you are, and how weak your enemy is, it is impossible to prevent 100% of enemy attacks.

The Russian AD would not be able to withstand a massive cruise missile attack on Russia by NATO.

The last time NATO carried out a massive attack with cruise missiles was against Syria, which shot down 70% of the missiles using primarily old and obsolete anti-aircraft defense systems...

Sevastopol should be very well protected. I understand that some droms can break through, but not Storm Shadow.

Using all the best HATO analysis they found a gap in the defences and they launched probably dozens of missiles of different types and a couple go through... not very impressive at all... because in an open conflict with HATO those recon assets would not be able to do their job because the Russians would engage them meaning HATO would be blind so their mass attacks might find a weak spot or they might not, meaning lots and lots of wasted missiles, meanwhile Russian hypersonic missiles that the west can't shoot down would get through most of the time... how would the balance shift over time if that was the case?

This was an inside job, false flag.

It was an inside job in the sense that the CIA created Al quada and ISIS which came much later, and the terrorists that flew those planes into targets, were trained in the US by US pilots. The World Trade Centre and the Pentagon are both legitimate targets so I shouldn't really call either attack terrorism should I?

India is too poor a country to be a meaningful ally of Russia. But if these statements of the Ukro Nazis rub China the wrong way they might immediately start supplying weapons to Russia.

India is like any country and it has smart people and it has stupid people but it has 1.5 billion people... a lot of stupid people but equally a significant number of very very smart people. Right now most of the smart people will be running to big money in the US but when the US dollar tanks and no one will accept it any more they will probably go to other countries and indeed if India plays its cards right and develops itself they might go to India for a brighter future.

Even in the 1990s China was backwards as hell... most cities were wall to wall streets full of bicycles... car ownership was very low, but they became the sweat shop of the west and started making everything and the Chinese government were not greedy and stupid and they invested and developed and now they are scaring the US in terms of their economy... there is not much that would make such a change in India impossible too.

You could take a baby from Paupa New Guinea and put it in an American family and send it to American schools and that child would fit right in to American culture, while the babies parents would be considered ignorant savages.

Have you seen the movie Crocodile Dundee... there was a sequel too. Both are fish out of water comedies, but the contrast between NY and the Australian outback are interesting. Street Smarts should not be underestimated but should not also be over estimated either.

Hardly any of them speaks about any kind of victory, while some of them were openly speaking about a defeat.

Reality is a bitch for those who were sold the American dream... problem is that it is the dreams of the rich and powerful.

Dudes at the coal face never enjoy such things.... they just do the work and spill the blood that makes it possible.

Reminds me of the Rutger Hauer scene in Blade Runner... if he wasn't a psycho murderer I would be more sympathetic to his character but considering his situation what else could he have been?

It seems it had one prime objective, to get the Patriot Act and War on Terror in place. OK two

If that is true man that would be hilarious because the Russians warned them it was happening and officially they ignored that warning. OBL had tried to damage the WTC building several times before and screwed it up.... I suspect when they let him have another go they weren't expecting so many to be killed or indeed for the buildings to come down... there would be some fast talking going on behind the scenes that day... I bet that bitch Nuland thought it would be a good idea or perhaps Clinton did.

The attacker has millions of targets they can attack while the defenders number of defence systems and their location are fixed.

The bad news is that they will always be able to mount attacks and often they will get through.

The positive news is that it costs them enormously to make these pissy attacks that do **** all to help their men on the front line except to give them a reason to grin while Russian artillery shreds them to tiny bloody stumps.

Maybe Russia should stop talking about Red Lines as they give birth Unnecessary discussions and emboldens Ukrainians to test the water.

This would be different if every time red lines are crossed and Russia retaliate in punishing manner - dams, bridges, rail stations, chemical plants (creating disasters), Rada buildings, properties of Ukrainian politicians, their families, water, electrical power plants and etc. This would put Ukrainian gov into firing line and they got accustomed to be safe and untouchable. It’s very simple and these responses wouldn’t be something Russian public would condemn at this point. It would drive the wedge over war maximalists and those who just want to steal during war time in Ukraine.

To be honest, western media already claimed Russia eating Ukrainian babies alive, they also “called wolf” too many times for it to have any impact.

Yet another stunt and internet "peremoga" by the Kiev regime and its NATzO patrons. Rinse and repeat hoping gullible Russians will
panic and allow you to win the war without trying. GTFO.

I guess that life brought us the best answer to all the Ukro PR stunt we could get.
Accidentally, as it happens usually

Remember a CBS report made Sep 10th, where Milley was accused of revealing the Ukrainian positions?

The accusation is utterly stupid, as Russkie are perfectly aware of that, but there is something much, much better

What Milley did, was showing the real scale of the mighty peremoga offensive ...



It turns out, that is perfectly matches the Russian-provided information, including the fact that the status of Robotnye is not clear either ...



They are obviously far, far away from the Russian 1st line of defense, which makes Milley simply a liar

I do know that they care shit about that, and it won't pass into shitstream anyway, but it is still a hilarious find, agree?

The Kiev regime need all the stunts and "advance", no matter how pathetic they are, to "prove" that they are still a valuable assets for more loans and funds from the masters.

The wunderwaffen from Western masterminds are small and cannot change anything in the battlefield, but they are effective propaganda tools, similar to cocaine and drugs to keep the fighting spirit of the Kiev regime, in a hope that they can inflict more damage to Russia and prolong the war.

Of course, everything are performed at the expense of Ukrainian lives and result in devastating damages to Ukraina in the future but it is not like Ukrainian lives are important for Kiev and Western regimes.

For now Russia is still in the process of building up and wait for opportunity to strike but she should do her best to minimize losses and when opportunity arise, a decisive battle is neccessary to break the morale of the Kiev regime and show the Ukraina people that Maidan regime can be defeated.

I do not hope for a miracle such as Jassi-Kishinev in 1944 but I do hope that final victory can come the sooner the better.

ALAMO wrote:He is Indian. Sure his perspective will be India-heavy oriented. And sure he can have some issues with the Chinese.

Then he should join an indian forum and not a Russian forum.

ALAMO wrote:people like yourself, not Sujoy.

I didn't create multiple accounts and violate forum rules, whereas that fellow Sujoy must have done that. No wonder so many anti Chinese comments. Already one Indian handle was busted, sujoy should be investigated.

The whole Miley gave away super secret information story is retarded squared. He was showing what can be found at Ukr live map sites.
According to Larry Johnson everything was cleaned up before Miley's interview and no secrets of any sort were leaked:

There was no yapping about any other "secrets", but revealing the positions
Like Russkie don't know who they are killing.

ALAMO wrote:There was no yapping about any other "secrets", but revealing the positions
Like Russkie don't know who they are killing.

That is quibbling. The "secret" was those positions "unknown" to Russia until Miley "leaked" them.
Total BS from every angle. Russia knows all the Ukr positions and Miley was showing Ukr live
map contents to the reporter.

Some people are getting panties in a twist over a repair plant. Only a couple of those missiles reached the repair plant and damaged what was already damaged ships. Oh no...

This will further embolden Russia to continue the conflict and strike at Ukraine vital targets.

"damaged" is probably too mild, as two big sources of fire at the docks were clear.
Ropucha seems to have a whole superstructure burned/melted, which brings serious doubt about repairing something that is 40 y/o.
Yet it is a war, and damages inflicted to 404 on a daily basis are multiple that.
Odessa was sprayed with Gerans, with some big hits at TIR parking.
Same applies to Danube ports, strikes again.
There is no night without some serious strikes, and it seems that Russkie are only warming up for something bigger.

Each vehicle carries two missiles, so that is 96 targets can be attacked immediately.

Did you use an ukrainian calculator to come up with that result? 

It is well fucking protected. 

150+ attacks and how many achieved something? Maybe 3 or 4.

Like Russkie don't know who they are killing.

Only mighty americans know. That´s why their drone strikes hit 97% civilians.