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    Post  Mir Fri Oct 06, 2023 6:48 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Looks like a whole S-300V unit.

    Prepping for the ATACMS "wunderwaffe" pirat

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:01 pm

    Serious overkill...

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    Post  Isos Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:12 pm

    A bit off topic but Nato is getting weaker and weaker...

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:20 pm

    Seems Russkie are getting ready for inevitable acts of desperate.

    They have a long tradition of dealing with terrorism, so ...

    The Cabinet of Ministers of the Russian Federation has approved a special procedure for the entry of Ukrainian citizens into Russia - this is a temporary measure:

    ➡From midnight on October 16, citizens of Ukraine will be able to enter Russia only through the Ludonka automobile checkpoint in the Pskov region and through Sheremetyevo;

    ➡The new entry procedure does not apply to persons under the age of 14 traveling from third countries independently or accompanied by Russians;

    ➡The procedure for entry into the Russian Federation, valid for Ukrainian citizens located in new Russian regions, remains unchanged.

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    Post  Mir Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:43 pm

    Isos wrote:A bit off topic but Nato is getting weaker and weaker...

    I bet the two Chief of Staff's conversed mainly in French after this little spat Laughing

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:56 pm

    Do you mean the fellatio phase?

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:29 pm

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    Recent Strikes on Ukrainian Rear Areas: An Analysis from Military Chronicles

    Military Watch Magazine has conducted a comprehensive analysis of recent strikes on Ukrainian rear areas, offering critical insights into the state of Ukraine's defense. This report delves into the targets and characteristics of these strikes, providing valuable conclusions regarding the overall condition of the Ukrainian Armed Forces (VСU).

    What Happened?
    From August to October, the Russian Armed Forces (VС RF) executed a series of impactful strikes on Ukrainian rear areas. These strikes, although overshadowed by high-profile attacks on strategic targets such as the Dolgintsevo airbase, which resulted in the destruction of MiG-29 fighters and fuel tanks, may carry greater strategic significance.

    Targets Destroyed:
    In the vast majority of cases, these strikes targeted military convoys transporting equipment of the VСU. Less frequently, strikes hit training camps and personnel concentrations in rear areas. The striking range in almost all instances ranged from 50 to 80 kilometers. Four episodes stand out for their destruction of weaponry, vehicles, and VСU personnel: a strike on a railway convoy near the village of Ukrainka (Zaporizhia region), a strike on a railway convoy near the Mezheva station (DNR), a strike on a railway convoy at the Mertsalovo station (DNR), and an attack on a VСU training camp in Kucherov Yar (DNR).

    What's Unusual About These Strikes?
    All these strikes were documented through objective surveillance means, indicating extended presence of unmanned reconnaissance drones over the impact areas, which went unnoticed.

    Presumably, due to the degradation of the VСU air defense system, resulting from munition and detection system depletion, integration challenges with Western systems, and ammunition shortages, the air defense system is gradually shifting towards localized and object-oriented defense. This implies that fewer regions in Ukraine are constantly covered by air defense systems and detection assets.

    Impact on Air Defense:
    The active effort to suppress and destroy the VСU's air defense systems has led to increased use of drones for target reconnaissance. This has enabled the VС RF to identify and monitor high-priority targets such as logistics hubs, warehouses, command centers, communication nodes, and troop concentrations.

    Key Takeaway:
    For several months, the VСU had been actively deploying air defense systems in the frontline zone, complicating Russian aviation operations. These air defense systems, including Western IRIS-T complexes, were presumably intended to cover advancing Ukrainian forces.

    However, in reality, the Ukrainian air defense system proved vulnerable to precision weaponry. Following strikes on the positional areas of air defense systems, some complexes were destroyed, while others were rendered inoperative and withdrawn to rear areas.

    It's essential to highlight that, strategically, there has been no secure rear area for the VСU since 2022. Developing effective countermeasures against air and sea-launched cruise missile strikes, as well as barrage munitions like "Gerasim" and "Lancet," has remained an unmet challenge for the VСU.

    Conclusion:
    A series of missile strikes on convoys with military equipment, training grounds, and other vital installations indicates that the VСU is gradually losing its ability to effectively cover its forces at the operational and tactical levels. While there may still be sufficient air defense systems to protect key administrative centers like Kyiv or critical infrastructure like railway hubs and power stations, the extensive and drawn-out nature of the conflict zone poses insurmountable challenges for comprehensive air defense coverage.

    This report underscores the evolving dynamics on the Ukrainian frontlines and their impact on Ukraine's air defense capabilities in the context of a vast theater of military operations.
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    Post  ALAMO Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:56 pm

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    The biggest problem I see is the fact, that people who are younger than 40s simply don't get that.
    Well, 99% of them.
    It is not if Russia is destroying those targets now, but how many of them have there ever been.
    Ukraine is a post Soviet state, planned to be a frontal/buffer from the very beginning.
    Some of you are cheering the fact that some command point has been taken out ... Great! They still have some 100 left.
    Some of them being buried 150m underground. And covered with the capital city metro stations.
    Every single high rise building is made with norms equal to western defensive lines.
    With solid reinforced concrete covers and walls over those.
    This is something I had explained to some of you multiple times - you who live in Murica, or Canada, or Australia. Or whatever.
    You have not a single clue how the infrastructure look like here in Urope.
    A Grad salvo will burn to the ground a whole Murican suburb district.
    As easy as that.
    In most of the Euro standards, it will damage some buildings.
    We don't build with cardboard, can you finally get that?
    Thats all.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:23 pm

    A group of 17 Ukrainian soldiers surrendered near Donetsk



    RF Geran 2 strike and aftermath in the Odessa region bordering Romania



    RF drones strike ukrainian trench at Marynka



    That dude at 1:10 throwing his rifle at the drone...

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:30 pm

    Hence the need for 'proper' bombs.

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    Post  kvs Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:51 pm

    @Backman

    It looks like another Racak theater production. Lack of pooled blood and dramatic gore would be solid evidence.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:51 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Hence the need for 'proper' bombs.


    There is a thing behind it.
    Why FAB1500 got a gliding set so late because of its different aerodynamics compared to 250 and 500.
    Constructed for a different purpose, release envelope etc.
    But guess what?
    FAB1500 is made same as FAB3000, 5000, and 9000 Laughing
    It is the same construction ...
    Just needs a bigger wings Twisted Evil

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    Post  kvs Fri Oct 06, 2023 10:00 pm

    "Traitors" in Kharkov. What moronic BS. Kharkov is Kiev regime occupied territory. The locals are ethnic Russians. "Ukrainians"
    in this region are like males who identify as females.

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    Post  Hole Fri Oct 06, 2023 10:08 pm

    But maybe an igniter or something?
    For cold winter nights. lol1

    Germany seems to be already tired somehow ...
    First the Poles were begging for money, now that dude... Wink lol1

    there is a lot of fire on our side and it is very good
    More hints for the coming offensive.

    Putin just called Trudeau an idiot.
    Putin leading in the newest polls from Canada. Next Prime Minister? Very Happy

    A bit off topic but Nato is getting weaker and weaker...
    Stronger and more united than ever. lol1
    Stoltenberg had a stroke after seeing that. lol1

    That dude at 1:10 throwing his rifle at the drone...
    He surrendered to the drone. West will call this a warcrime.

    Just needs a bigger wings
    FAB-9000 with wings will look like a Predator drone. lol1

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    Post  Kiko Fri Oct 06, 2023 10:51 pm

    Scoop: Russia Fine-tuning Electronic Warfare Systems to Suppress Ukraine’s F-16s, by Ilya Tsukanov for Sputnikglobe.com. 10.06.2023.

    NATO countries plan to deliver several dozen F-16 Fighting Falcon fourth-generation fighter jets to Ukraine beginning next year, with pilot training commencing in the US and Denmark in recent weeks.

    The Russian military is optimizing its electronic warfare systems to target F-16s in anticipation of the warplanes’ delivery to Ukraine, an informed source has told Sputnik.

    “Russian electronic warfare systems used in the special military operation zone will received optimized settings to suppress radars and onboard equipment of NATO F-16 fighters which Western countries plan to supply to Kiev,” the source said.
    “Based on what we know about the onboard avionics of NATO frontline fighters Kiev will be getting, it will be easier to suppress them than the Soviet-designed aircraft in Ukraine’s inventory,” the source added.

    This information complements info provided to Sputnik by another source last month that Russia’s electronic warfare systems have been successfully forcing Ukrainian combat aircraft to prematurely abandon their combat missions and return to base due to jamming by systems including the Krasukha mobile, ground-based electronic warfare system.

    Denmark, the Netherlands and Norway plan to transfer up to 71 F-16s to the Ukrainian Air Force starting in 2024 at the earliest, with the training of Ukrainian pilots beginning in earnest in Denmark and the US in in August and September.

    However, Commander of US Air Forces Europe Gen. James B. Heckler warned in August that building Ukrainian pilots’ proficiency in flying the planes could take at least “four or five years” to muster, meaning that even after the F-16s arrive, they might “help a little bit,” but won’t be a “silver bullet.”

    Further complicating the Ukrainian Air Force’s mission is a high loss rate, with the Russian military reporting that over 470 Ukrainian fixed wing aircraft and nearly 250 helicopters have been knocked out to date, including many of the Soviet-era planes and choppers delivered to the country from NATO’s Eastern European members’ armories.

    The unprecedented scale of the proxy conflict with NATO in Ukraine has forced Russia’s air defenses and electronic warfare units to rapidly adapt to the alliance’s latest and most modern weapons systems, including advanced strike drones and long-range cruise missiles. However, as Western officials and media have admitted, the F-16 fighters Ukraine will be receiving are a fighter platform that’s well over forty years old, with Russian air defense technology designed specifically to target the NATO standard aircraft going back to the 1980s.

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20231006/scoop-russia-fine-tuning-electronic-warfare-systems-to-suppress-ukraines-f-16s-1113991192.html

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:07 pm

    [quote="Sprut-B"]russia

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    Did you ever check what the Arabic word for 'pig' is?
    Khanzir lol1 lol1 lol1

    BTW yet another rpic of "civilian" massacre:

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:45 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Zlatti71
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    Recent Strikes on Ukrainian Rear Areas: An Analysis from Military Chronicles

    Military Watch Magazine has conducted a comprehensive analysis of recent strikes on Ukrainian rear areas, offering critical insights into the state of Ukraine's defense. This report delves into the targets and characteristics of these strikes, providing valuable conclusions regarding the overall condition of the Ukrainian Armed Forces (VСU).
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    The operations of Lancet & Co. In September over 500 attacks were documented. The Geran-2s draw fire quite well, the smaller drones do the rest. The goals are becoming smaller and smaller, more and more individual.

    It's only a matter of time before everything gets going and no one on the Ukrainian side wants to set foot outside the door anymore. There are no more armored vehicles, no air defense, nothing that offers protection.

    In addition, NATO has nothing for air protection. Russia has Panzir and TOR. The latter provides almost reliable protection. What does NATO have? Nothing but old, usable German anti-aircraft tanks. WOW. Even if they reactivate all of them. There is neither ammunition nor will it survive long in the field.

    NATO has a hole 10 years from now, a damn hole and that is the entire NATO area itself. You see from Ukraine, you can harm Russia but not every day, not really painfully, it has enough air defense, enough air force. But they themselves have nothing, nothing against 50 Geran-2, 25 Lancets and other drones every day.

    Every damn day there would be one wave after another and they would have nothing. Neither systems nor ammunition nor the personnel for them. And the Russian General Staff will know this.

    We will be curious to see whether every possible target in the west of Ukraine will soon be attacked from Belarus. By then, at the latest, the last person at NATO should realize that it's over.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:38 am

    Poor guy ! Doesn't know what he got himself into ! It is the beauty and the beast story . The girl falls in love with the beast , for his inner beauty ! And the beast falls in love with the girl .......because he is a guy ! Need say more ?

    Isn't the real irony that the Russian orc is the Beauty and that nazi ukrainian chick is the beast?

    The ack ack didn't hit anything by the look of it and stopped when the drone hit. Coincidence?

    I noticed it stopped when the drones hit too...

    The guy seemed to be enjoying what he saw. No
    With such "allies" the Ukros need no enemies.

    To be fair he is their neighbour and knows them better than we do... he knows they brought war to Europe...


    I guess the pubs/bars along the river make a lot of money on the romanian side.
    For every explosion you have to drink a shot.

    Free fireworks display every night... like a sleazy Vegas hotel...

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    Post  Stealthflanker Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:16 am

    ALAMO wrote:Serious overkill...

    It's standard. an S-300V Battery would have :

    -9S15 Obzor 3D search radar, this is for general aviation target and maybe IFF interrogation
    -9S32 This controls the 9A83 launchers with 9M83 missile, for general aviation target and smaller ballistic missile
    -9S18 "Imbir" This control the 9A82 launchers which fires the 9M82 missile, this constitutes the long range and to target higher end Ballistic target
    -Command post
    -9A83 and 9A82 launchers
    -Transloader to reload the missile
    -Mobile bunks and maybe fuel tanker as the S-300V components needs fuel with maximum autonomy of about 2 days.

    Each 9S32 and 9S18 radar can control several launchers maybe 6 or more so the total component of a battery can exceed 10 vehicles.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:45 am

    Spies, the usually unsung heroes

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    Very good news from the NeoficialniyBeZsonoV channel. Another of our heroes came out, having completed his job and deceiving the Ukrainian counterintelligence:

    "The Head of the Cybersecurity Department of the Mukachevo Border Detachment of the State Border Service of Ukraine, Ruslan Stanislavovich Syrovoy, arrived in Moscow. He has been engaged in subversive activities and collecting information for our special services for a long time. Thanks to Syrovoy, we managed to gain access to many closed databases, digital infrastructure and communication centers of the enemy."

    https://t.me/ukr_leaks_eng/

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:49 am

    There was a claim that SS and Scalp were destroyed here too.

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    🇷🇺 Russian troops hit the military airport in Mirgorod

    Tonight, the Russian Armed Forces launched repeated strikes using Iskander-K cruise missiles on the territory of the Mirgorod airfield, military correspondents report.

    According to available data, as a result of the strike, the parking areas of Su-27 fighters were hit. At the moment, two damaged aircraft are known.

    Also, according to local residents, after the strike, two fires appeared on the airfield, which indicates a possible burning of aircraft.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Oct 07, 2023 12:16 pm

    It's standard. an S-300V Battery would have

    I suspect he means ATACMS can be shot down with BUK and TOR and Pantsir and S-350 and S-400 already in theatre...

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    Post  franco Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:05 pm

    Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation (for the period from September 29 to October 6, 2023)

    In the period from September 29 to October 6 this year, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out 14 group strikes with high-precision long-range weapons and unmanned aerial vehicles on the objects of the military infrastructure of Ukraine.

    Ammunition depots, rocket and artillery weapons and military equipment, production workshops of enterprises producing weapons and military equipment, as well as accommodation facilities for Ukrainian servicemen, nationalists and foreign mercenaries were affected.

    As a result of the strikes, among other things, the workshop for the large-node assembly of Punisher and Furia strike and reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicles, storage depots for HIMARS rockets, Storm Shadow and Scalp cruise missiles, as well as components for the manufacture of explosives for the production of ammunition were destroyed.

    In addition, units of Ukrainian nationalist formations, as well as foreign mercenaries and instructors were hit at temporary deployment points.

    In the Kupyansk direction, the units of the "Western" grouping of troops with competent actions repelled four counterattacks of the AFU units.

    In addition, air strikes and artillery fire hit clusters of manpower and equipment of the 25th Airborne, 14th, 43rd and 92nd mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Sinkovka, Timkovka, Kharkiv region, Novoselovskoye and Novolyubovka of the Luhansk People's Republic.

    The enemy's losses during this period amounted to over 405 servicemen, five tanks and other armored fighting vehicles, 15 cars, as well as 15 field artillery guns.

    In the areas of the settlements of Volchansk, Kupyansk and Liptsy, Kharkiv region, four ammunition depots of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed.

    In the Krasnolimansk direction, the enemy, by the forces of the 12th Special Purpose Brigade, the 63rd and 67th mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, made unsuccessful attempts to restore lost positions in the areas of the settlements of Yampolovka of the Donetsk People's Republic, Chervonaya Dibrova and Kuzmino of the Luhansk People's Republic.

    As a result of the actions of the units of the Center group of forces, air strikes, artillery fire and heavy flamethrower systems, 17 enemy attacks were repelled.

    The losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces amounted to more than 430 Ukrainian servicemen killed and wounded, 13 armored combat vehicles, 14 cars and 12 guns.

    In the Donetsk direction, the enemy continued to strengthen its defenses in the areas of the settlements of Avdiivka, Maryinka and Toretsk of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    At the same time, he tried to attack in the areas of the settlements of Pervomayskoye, Nevelskoye and Krasnogorovka of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    Over the past week, units of the "Southern" group repelled 34 attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this direction.

    As a result of the fighting, the enemy lost more than 1,745 Ukrainian servicemen killed and wounded, 18 tanks and other armored fighting vehicles, 27 cars, 13 field artillery guns, a Grad MLRS combat vehicle.

    Also, three ammunition depots were destroyed by air and missile strikes.

    In the South Donetsk direction, Russian units repelled 11 enemy attacks in a week. Air strikes and artillery fire defeated clusters of manpower and equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    The enemy's losses during this period amounted to over 755 Ukrainian servicemen killed and wounded, eight tanks and other armored fighting vehicles, 19 cars, as well as 11 field artillery guns.

    In the Zaporozhye direction, more advantageous lines and positions are occupied by the active actions of the units of the Russian troops, and two counterattacks of the assault groups of the 65th mechanized and 71st Jaeger brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Verbovoye and Rabodino of the Zaporozhye region are also reflected.

    The enemy's losses amounted to more than 320 Ukrainian servicemen killed and wounded, 14 armored combat vehicles, 20 cars, as well as 25 field artillery guns.

    In the Kherson direction, the enemy made unsuccessful attempts to seize bridgeheads on the islands and the left bank of the Dnieper.

    As a result of the fire damage, the enemy's losses amounted to up to 235 Ukrainian servicemen, six field artillery guns and 17 vehicles.

    In addition, five ammunition depots were destroyed, and the activities of two sabotage and reconnaissance groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were suppressed.

    Fighter aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces and air defense means during the week shot down Su-27, Su-25 and MiG-29 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force in the areas of the settlements of Soldatskoye, Dnipropetrovsk region, Sergeyevka and Kleshcheyevka of the Donetsk People's Republic, as well as an attack aircraft Su-25 was destroyed at the Dolgintsevo airfield in the Dnipropetrovsk region.

    The strikes of missile troops, artillery and unmanned aerial vehicles hit: the launcher of the Buk anti-aircraft missile system in the area of the settlement of Burlatskoye of the Donetsk People's Republic, as well as three radar stations for detecting and tracking P-18 air targets in the areas of the settlements of Nikanorovka of the Donetsk People's Republic, Krinichki and Novobogdanovka of the Mykolaiv region.

    On October 4 of this year, the naval aviation of the Black Sea Fleet in the Black Sea destroyed two watercraft and 13 saboteurs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during an attempt to land troops on the coast of Crimea.

    During the week, 39 HIMARS, Alder and Hurricane rockets, four JDAM guided aerial bombs, three HARM anti-radar missiles, as well as two Neptune anti-ship missiles were intercepted by air defense systems.

    In addition, 320 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles were destroyed and suppressed by electronic warfare.

    In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 486 aircraft, 250 helicopters, 7572 unmanned aerial vehicles, 440 anti-aircraft missile systems, 12361 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1161 multiple rocket launchers, 6666 field artillery and mortar guns, as well as 13,850 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12481228@egNews

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