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They are going to nuke USA ? Iran will not give them Air support !
Their choice to live under Islamic law , or die in Nuclear war !
Hey that rhymed , I am a poet .
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Maybe it does not belong in this thread, but I need to write about the double standards going on right now.
If we applied all the "Western values" (propagated both in the media and in private talks) that are justifying Zionist war crimes, we could come to the conclusion that the extermination of all Jews in Nazi Germany were completely justified. This is their insanity.
Some Israel apologists are even openly spreading ideas about how to commit a genocide of Palestinians as long as it is not causing too much bad publicity for Israel.
Fake stories like the beheaded babies are already leading to barbaric and unnecessary retributions against Palestinian civilians, but the ones spreading these lies are not even held accountable. You would have to throw them into jail or execute them for spreading these lies.
If someone did the same to Jews, he would be called a dangerous antisemitic conspiracy theorist, but when you confront Pro-Zionists with the their own lies, they simply don't care. They shrug their shoulders and make fun about everyone calling them out.
So this kind of people only understands the language of violence and violence is exactly what they deserve - no matter if they are Jewish or non-Jewish Zionists. Indeed, they are mostly non-Jewish Zionists disguising their racist supremacy beliefs. They have no morale credibility, which is why I have stopped being lectured by these hypocrites a long time ago.
I am also disgusted to see how a lot of Indians have adopted double standards that always looks the other way, when Israel and illegal settlers are guilty of crimes, while blaming Muslims for everything happening in the Middle East. That is another example of how these morale degenerates are not always Jews.
In fact there are Jews with morale credibility, but in the Western world they are all branded as self-hating Jews and therefore silenced.
If we applied all the "Western values" (propagated both in the media and in private talks) that are justifying Zionist war crimes, we could come to the conclusion that the extermination of all Jews in Nazi Germany were completely justified. This is their insanity.
Some Israel apologists are even openly spreading ideas about how to commit a genocide of Palestinians as long as it is not causing too much bad publicity for Israel.
Fake stories like the beheaded babies are already leading to barbaric and unnecessary retributions against Palestinian civilians, but the ones spreading these lies are not even held accountable. You would have to throw them into jail or execute them for spreading these lies.
If someone did the same to Jews, he would be called a dangerous antisemitic conspiracy theorist, but when you confront Pro-Zionists with the their own lies, they simply don't care. They shrug their shoulders and make fun about everyone calling them out.
So this kind of people only understands the language of violence and violence is exactly what they deserve - no matter if they are Jewish or non-Jewish Zionists. Indeed, they are mostly non-Jewish Zionists disguising their racist supremacy beliefs. They have no morale credibility, which is why I have stopped being lectured by these hypocrites a long time ago.
I am also disgusted to see how a lot of Indians have adopted double standards that always looks the other way, when Israel and illegal settlers are guilty of crimes, while blaming Muslims for everything happening in the Middle East. That is another example of how these morale degenerates are not always Jews.
In fact there are Jews with morale credibility, but in the Western world they are all branded as self-hating Jews and therefore silenced.
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Sim Kern, a Jew and an environmental writer explain the double-standard of Western mainstream media about Palestine-Israel conflict. She point out that Western media is racist and imperialist, Western media do not see Palestinian as people because Arab Palestinians are not considered "white" according to the white supermacist criteria of Western imperialism.
Her speech was posted on facebook page of Saadi Salama, Palestinian Ambassador at Vietnam.
https://www.facebook.com/altumaizi/videos/860621412326548
Sim Kern is a Jew and a bisexual, many people may dislike her because of these two things. But being a Jew and a bisexual does not prevent her from being a staunch supporter of Palestinian people and a vocal critics against the criminal fascist regime in Tel Aviv.
I strongly believe that LGBTs and Jews in general should not be discriminated because of the crimes caused by Tel Aviv regime and the distorted wokeness movement infested by Western oligarchs.
Her speech was posted on facebook page of Saadi Salama, Palestinian Ambassador at Vietnam.
https://www.facebook.com/altumaizi/videos/860621412326548
Sim Kern is a Jew and a bisexual, many people may dislike her because of these two things. But being a Jew and a bisexual does not prevent her from being a staunch supporter of Palestinian people and a vocal critics against the criminal fascist regime in Tel Aviv.
I strongly believe that LGBTs and Jews in general should not be discriminated because of the crimes caused by Tel Aviv regime and the distorted wokeness movement infested by Western oligarchs.
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ArgentinaGuard wrote:
Isis is a Western creation just like Al Quaeda. But Hamas responds to Iran and Hesbollah.
Do you think that all armed organizations are from Western intelligence organizations? Don't be so stupid.
Yes, Gaza is a gueto closed and Israel control everything that comes in and what goes out
the most guarded wall on the planet and terrorists enter at will??
Hamas is a thing of Turkey and the Muslim Brotherhood, that is, NATO
The pro-Soviet OPL became the pro-Russian ANP.
Did you hear the ANP say something?
Eugenio Argentina wrote:"If Israel is forced to the wall, the possibility of a nuclear exchange is extremely high."
Zionist journalist
@benshapiro
threatens that Israel would use a nuclear weapon if the #US doesn't provide it with more military air.
https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1713267293394723199
It seems that some are pointing to the predictions that Alexander Duguin made.
Israel is more likely to end up in a civil war
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higurashihougi wrote:Sim Kern, a Jew and an environmental writer explain the double-standard of Western mainstream media about Palestine-Israel conflict. She point out that Western media is racist and imperialist, Western media do not see Palestinian as people because Arab Palestinians are not considered "white" according to the white supermacist criteria of Western imperialism.
Her speech was posted on facebook page of Saadi Salama, Palestinian Ambassador at Vietnam.
https://www.facebook.com/altumaizi/videos/860621412326548
Sim Kern is a Jew and a bisexual, many people may dislike her because of these two things. But being a Jew and a bisexual does not prevent her from being a staunch supporter of Palestinian people and a vocal critics against the criminal fascist regime in Tel Aviv.
I strongly believe that LGBTs and Jews in general should not be discriminated because of the crimes caused by Tel Aviv regime and the distorted wokeness movement infested by Western oligarchs.
Absurd. First and foremost. Israel is not a strictly white country.
Secondly, the Western media has not taken a pro-white stance for a long time. But how do you explain the woke ideology.
The Western media is pro-Israeli because it is controlled by Jews.
Those pro-Palestinian Jews are a farce (a controlled opposition) to propose that Jews have differences and other things. Say, look we are a democratic people.
Whites in Western nations (many of whom are impoverished workers) are not your enemy but the economic and financial elites (mostly Jewish and promoters of racial mixing).
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AMCXXL wrote:ArgentinaGuard wrote:
Isis is a Western creation just like Al Quaeda. But Hamas responds to Iran and Hesbollah.
Do you think that all armed organizations are from Western intelligence organizations? Don't be so stupid.
Yes, Gaza is a gueto closed and Israel control everything that comes in and what goes out
the most guarded wall on the planet and terrorists enter at will??
Hamas is a thing of Turkey and the Muslim Brotherhood, that is, NATO
The pro-Soviet OPL became the pro-Russian ANP.
Did you hear the ANP say something?Eugenio Argentina wrote:"If Israel is forced to the wall, the possibility of a nuclear exchange is extremely high."
Zionist journalist
@benshapiro
threatens that Israel would use a nuclear weapon if the #US doesn't provide it with more military air.
https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1713267293394723199
It seems that some are pointing to the predictions that Alexander Duguin made.
Israel is more likely to end up in a civil war
Gaza borders Egypt and Hamas members are no different from a civilian. Furthermore, you overestimate Israeli capacity too much. I wouldn't doubt that many of those troops are corrupt.
It's like drug trafficking and the United States border.
Sorry Garry. I couldn't unify.
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Nice clickbait, Israel doesn't need to use Nuclear weapons and they cannot, the fallout would reach them, Israel would be nuking it's self. Hama's cannot inflict a military defeat on them. It will be bloody but I suspect, Israel fully intends to annex the last bit of Palestine.
So Palestine's days as a country are pretty much over
So Palestine's days as a country are pretty much over
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If they have mobilized indeed 300k army against 3 mln civilian population, with maybe some 20-30k Hamas armed guys, Gaza stands not a single chance.
I can hardly remember this kind of ratio, if ever.
Imagine a Barbarossa with 20 mln strong German army from the beginning.
Mindblowing.
I can hardly remember this kind of ratio, if ever.
Imagine a Barbarossa with 20 mln strong German army from the beginning.
Mindblowing.
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The preparations continue.
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There are 10 towers along the "wall" at the border with Lebanon.
Each tower with 4-6 surveillance cameras, directed towards Lebanese territories, were rendered completely inoperative after Hezbollah destroyed them, leaving the enemy blind.
@AryJeay
There are 10 towers along the "wall" at the border with Lebanon.
Each tower with 4-6 surveillance cameras, directed towards Lebanese territories, were rendered completely inoperative after Hezbollah destroyed them, leaving the enemy blind.
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ALAMO wrote:If they have mobilized indeed 300k army against 3 mln civilian population, with maybe some 20-30k Hamas armed guys, Gaza stands not a single chance.
I can hardly remember this kind of ratio, if ever.
Imagine a Barbarossa with 20 mln strong German army from the beginning.
Mindblowing.
They are different times. The German Wehermatch troops were superior to the current Israeli ones. The Germans were modern Spartans compared to the Israeli whores with onlyfans and the Jewish indiscipline that is a carbon copy of the American indiscipline. The Israelis only have an advantage in technology and money.
Israel has no chance in an urban war. 30 thousand men can easily cost troops and money. added to international wear and tear. The problem is not Gaza but regional escalation.
Also, Netanhauyu is very stupid, he is not an intelligent guy. He is very similar to George Bush.
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Your enthusiasm is crystal clear, but let me give you a hint. It might spoil your general awareness.
Anyway ...
https://t.me/intelslava/52038
A full cycle production line for tandem 105 mm cal RPG rounds run by Hamas.
Anyway ...
https://t.me/intelslava/52038
A full cycle production line for tandem 105 mm cal RPG rounds run by Hamas.
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Israel troops are superior to Hama's.
Also your logic is so flawed for one, Gaza is completely cut off, it cannot get water or supplies, The Israeli's literally can take their time, its Hama's whom is on the clock and with such few manpower and only one city, they will not hold.
If you think Hama's is winning this your are a clueless individual.
They would need overseas support and that's not going to happen, they are quite literally sieged in.
Also your logic is so flawed for one, Gaza is completely cut off, it cannot get water or supplies, The Israeli's literally can take their time, its Hama's whom is on the clock and with such few manpower and only one city, they will not hold.
If you think Hama's is winning this your are a clueless individual.
They would need overseas support and that's not going to happen, they are quite literally sieged in.
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:Israel troops are superior to Hama's.
Also your logic is so flawed for one, Gaza is completely cut off, it cannot get water or supplies, The Israeli's literally can take their time, its Hama's whom is on the clock and with such few manpower and only one city, they will not hold.
If you think Hama's is winning this your are a clueless individual.
They would need overseas support and that's not going to happen, they are quite literally sieged in.
You have no proportion of the resources they may have or have accumulated. How many deaths do you think Israel will endure? The Palestinian is accustomed to death, he has nothing to lose. The Jew loses his comfort and lifestyle. And I tell you again, the problem is not Gaza but regional escalation.
Guys with paragliders and civilian motorcycles attacked Israel. Anywhere he would be a laughingstock. Clearly Israel is overrated in military terms,
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ArgentinaGuard wrote:SeigSoloyvov wrote:Israel troops are superior to Hama's.
Also your logic is so flawed for one, Gaza is completely cut off, it cannot get water or supplies, The Israeli's literally can take their time, its Hama's whom is on the clock and with such few manpower and only one city, they will not hold.
If you think Hama's is winning this your are a clueless individual.
They would need overseas support and that's not going to happen, they are quite literally sieged in.
You have no proportion of the resources they may have or have accumulated. How many deaths do you think Israel will endure? The Palestinian is accustomed to death, he has nothing to lose. The Jew loses his comfort and lifestyle. And I tell you again, the problem is not Gaza but regional escalation.
Guys with paragliders and civilian motorcycles attacked Israel. Anywhere he would be a laughingstock. Clearly Israel is overrated in military terms,
You are clueless to the reality of situation, both sides have been killing each other for decades, Israel is quite prepared for high losses.
It doesn't matter how much they have, without resupply its just a matter of time, you can see how in Ukraine they go through ammo in a week, Hama's might have enough to last for a few months but the more ground they lose, the more stashed supplies go with it.
It's over for them period, there is no world in which they win, best they can do is kill as many Israeli's as possible.
Your also very clueless to how radar works lol, its very hard to detect low flying things like gliders if at all, as they create virtually no signal to detect and easily be confused with birds etc and often go below the radar ceiling.
Please talk more and reveal how much you don't know
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:ArgentinaGuard wrote:SeigSoloyvov wrote:Israel troops are superior to Hama's.
Also your logic is so flawed for one, Gaza is completely cut off, it cannot get water or supplies, The Israeli's literally can take their time, its Hama's whom is on the clock and with such few manpower and only one city, they will not hold.
If you think Hama's is winning this your are a clueless individual.
They would need overseas support and that's not going to happen, they are quite literally sieged in.
You have no proportion of the resources they may have or have accumulated. How many deaths do you think Israel will endure? The Palestinian is accustomed to death, he has nothing to lose. The Jew loses his comfort and lifestyle. And I tell you again, the problem is not Gaza but regional escalation.
Guys with paragliders and civilian motorcycles attacked Israel. Anywhere he would be a laughingstock. Clearly Israel is overrated in military terms,
You are clueless to the reality of situation, both sides have been killing each other for decades, Israel is quite prepared for high losses.
It doesn't matter how much they have, without resupply its just a matter of time, you can see how in Ukraine they go through ammo in a week, Hama's might have enough to last for a few months but the more ground they lose, the more stashed supplies go with it.
It's over for them period, there is no world in which they win, best they can do is kill as many Israeli's as possible.
Your also very clueless to how radar works lol, its very hard to detect low flying things like gliders if at all, as they create virtually no signal to detect and easily be confused with birds etc and often go below the radar ceiling.
Please talk more and reveal how much you don't know
Israel prepared for big losses haha. What are you talking about?
Israel without the West does not last even a week with Iran. And the West cannot lose sight of the increasingly bent Ukraine.
They couldn't beat Hezbollah in 2006 with a much stronger West. Imagining now. It is clear that Hamas sensed weakness and that is why they attacked.
Israel is a great propaganda machine.
The Jews are very proud but at the slightest hint of doubt they fall into hysteria.
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:Israel troops are superior to Hama's.
.
Yes.
By some 10x manpower in the scene.
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Bleeding Hearts ! We do not need the Saudis bleeding Hearts , nor the Eskimos bleeding Hearts . All we need is the frontline states of Israel , to have bleeding Hearts . Or in other words , the humanitarian crisis must reach such levels , That Arab street forces the hands of their leaders . Compels them into action . At this point Iran / Iraq can cross troops and station in Syria and Lebanon or Jordan , for land invasion . Lebanon alone , together with Palestinians , are not enough for complete defeat of the Israelis and fight a six month to a year war to defeat them . All they can do is Rocket launches and skirmishes in border areas .
That maybe a reason why the Israelis are rushing the ground offensive . They are not fools , and know that if it was just a question of Hamas in Gaza , that they have the upper hand now . All they need to do is pop open some popcorn and watch the show , and in a few weeks , it will be easy . But it is not a question of Gaza alone , and they know it . That is why they are in a rush . They think their best chance is for some kind of quick victory , or something they can sell as a quick victory . Hoping for low losses in ground offensive now , before the Arabs and Muslims are forced into taking action .
But I think deep down , they know losses will be high and high enough to be intolerable . Already as reported by Channel 10 of Israel media , there are Army desertions and morale is low among poorly trained conscripts . So they are caught between a Rock and a hard place . Rush in and suffer a humiliating defeat by Hamas in Gaza , and risk bringing in Arab and Muslim states against them . Or waiting and watching the unbearable humanitarian crisis , people dying of thirst , force the Arabs and Muslims into war against them , for complete defeat and occupation . It is a loose now badly or loose later completely scenario . Which is the worst loss ?
That maybe a reason why the Israelis are rushing the ground offensive . They are not fools , and know that if it was just a question of Hamas in Gaza , that they have the upper hand now . All they need to do is pop open some popcorn and watch the show , and in a few weeks , it will be easy . But it is not a question of Gaza alone , and they know it . That is why they are in a rush . They think their best chance is for some kind of quick victory , or something they can sell as a quick victory . Hoping for low losses in ground offensive now , before the Arabs and Muslims are forced into taking action .
But I think deep down , they know losses will be high and high enough to be intolerable . Already as reported by Channel 10 of Israel media , there are Army desertions and morale is low among poorly trained conscripts . So they are caught between a Rock and a hard place . Rush in and suffer a humiliating defeat by Hamas in Gaza , and risk bringing in Arab and Muslim states against them . Or waiting and watching the unbearable humanitarian crisis , people dying of thirst , force the Arabs and Muslims into war against them , for complete defeat and occupation . It is a loose now badly or loose later completely scenario . Which is the worst loss ?
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Israel launched AD laser defense. Nobody else has anything like this.
https://vk.com/video-123538639_456303262
https://vk.com/video-123538639_456303262
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Yes only the Israelis have lasers ! They think Iranian missiles have no counter measures against lasers . The Israelis must make more Star Wars lasers . Brilliant !
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:Nice clickbait, Israel doesn't need to use Nuclear weapons and they cannot, the fallout would reach them, Israel would be nuking it's self. Hama's cannot inflict a military defeat on them. It will be bloody but I suspect, Israel fully intends to annex the last bit of Palestine.
So Palestine's days as a country are pretty much over
Then other groups will jump in. That's what they say anyway.
Israel has the technical, training and heavy weapons advantage but in an all out deathmatch , the Palestine supporting proxies have the bodies. Infantry in numbers would probably overrun Israel. Especially with the new reality of cheap drones.
Israel is also no match in the size of economy to its enemies.
So if the anti Israel forces really wanted to overrun Israel, at some point Israel would have to reach for the nukes.
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Not really.
Israeli has lot of conscripts that spend their time on instagram and tiktok. We saw their value in ukraine...
Hezbollah has lot of iranian modern technologie, guided missiles will hurt badly israel.
Israeli tanks and vehicles are gonna eat suicide drones all day because they learned a lot from ukro war and they probably have stocks of DJI drones which are very easy to hide and use.
They also will get intel from satelittes. Something they never had.
I wouldn't take into account previous arab/israeli wars. The situation is toyally different.
Israeli has lot of conscripts that spend their time on instagram and tiktok. We saw their value in ukraine...
Hezbollah has lot of iranian modern technologie, guided missiles will hurt badly israel.
Israeli tanks and vehicles are gonna eat suicide drones all day because they learned a lot from ukro war and they probably have stocks of DJI drones which are very easy to hide and use.
They also will get intel from satelittes. Something they never had.
I wouldn't take into account previous arab/israeli wars. The situation is toyally different.
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Interesting how when Russia gets hit by cheapshots like this (after preventing 90% of them), it is always chalked up as Russian incompetence.
Yet here Israel is getting hit by the first shot. Israel really screwed itself by not remaining more neutral with Russia so that it could purchase Russian air defense. Having Pantsir's with crews well trained on them will be very handy for Israel for the foreseeable future
Yet here Israel is getting hit by the first shot. Israel really screwed itself by not remaining more neutral with Russia so that it could purchase Russian air defense. Having Pantsir's with crews well trained on them will be very handy for Israel for the foreseeable future
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Let's be a little serious.
We know that Israel has a lot of power.
And about the support of the USA and all of NATO.
Now, a little over a week ago we saw that despite being a "super army" they were chased by Hamas, even into their territory.
We know that Israel has a lot of power.
And about the support of the USA and all of NATO.
Now, a little over a week ago we saw that despite being a "super army" they were chased by Hamas, even into their territory.
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Backman wrote:Interesting how when Russia gets hit by cheapshots like this (after preventing 90% of them), it is always chalked up as Russian incompetence.
Yet here Israel is getting hit by the first shot. Israel really screwed itself by not remaining more neutral with Russia so that it could purchase Russian air defense. Having Pantsir's with crews well trained on them will be very handy for Israel for the foreseeable future
Israel is an insect compared to the capacity and talent of the motherland Russia. Imagine the Jews with an economic boycott like the one they did to Russia and fighting against NATO in a giant territory like Ukraine.
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Israel despite having a technical advantage similar to Russia's over Ukraine, does not have an economy and infantry overmatch to fall back on if it is needed. The chance of battlefield nukes being used is far higher in this war than it ever was for Russia. I wouldn't under estimate Israel's anxiety through this. They could even use them in Iran and just deny it. Iran would be screaming blue murder and the western media would just say "oh they're lying. We just bunker busted their nuclear plant. That's why the radiation count is high.
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