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    2023 Israel–Hamas war

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    Post  Isos Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:24 pm

    Hole wrote:
    So far, the Israeli army has lost 10 Merkava tanks and 4 personnel carriers, 40 soldiers have been killed and wounded,
    Real numbers are propably higher.

    Youtube is trying to destract you with silly beatboxing advertisements
    Or israeli propaganda. One ad video with "Hamas killed x number of people" and another one "Hamas = ISIS". No

    Not really. Both sides seems to report same attacks.

    Funny, last days I saw ads from israeli state all over the US plateforms. I reported most of them.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:39 pm

    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:You know something big is going to happen, when Youtube is trying to destract you with silly beatboxing advertisements all day long...

    no shit...

    Watching the feeds be like:

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    If all the events happening now, people in muslim countries calling for war with israel.
    Countries stating various times that if Israel goes in, it is a declaration of war.

    And meanwhile the West is just giving israel a blank slate for genocide.
    I am sure leaders in the middle east know no help ever will come from the west.
    If anyone has to do something about it, they have to do it themselves.

    With all the psychotic bloodlust Israel shouted, i do not think they will deviate from obliterating Gaza.
    With all that Israel has done already, and they actually go in Gaza.

    I do not think these muslim countries already raging can ignore the people, and more importantly to just stand watch as Israel eradicates Gaza. That would be an unacceptable humiliation i believe.
    To just have not even tried to do something about it.

    If Israel's enemy's do not seize the chance now. it will not present itself again for at least some decades.

    However, i think what is on most people's mind is.
    When the destruction of Israel commences is at what point, and Where Israel is going to deploy it's nuclear weapons.

    We all know israel has them, but how many and how powerful?.

    There is a so-called Samson option that Israel has. If Israel falls, they will take as many with them in Nuclear fire.

    During the yom kippur war, and when Israel was about to lose the Israeli's readied about a dozen nuclear bombs to be used as a doomsday option if the U.S did not send everything they had to rescue them.

    For now, nobody knows what will come next.
    all we can do is watch.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:37 am

    The images of the injured and dead children in Gaza are simply disturbing. These children don't deserve this. Their parents don't deserve this. Palestine does not deserve this.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:35 am

    This is why Iran will end up with nuclear weapons very soon

    We have not yet seen demonstrable weapons, but if North Korea has SLBM, ICBM, and ALCM/BM, then we can assume Iran can easily obtain such capabilities in a short period,

    We know the top religious government disavowed nuclear weapons saying they only intended to use it for peaceful purposes,

    But given the situation, and seeing as how, Jordan, Egypt,  Syria and Lebanon would get absolutely destroyed by Israel,

    The only state actor with the capability to present Israel a credible deterrent, is Iran

    given that Israel behaves in such a way, it's only a matter of time

    For the Iranians, it is an unpleasant wake up call, that they could be in the same position as the gazans,

    If the US and Israel begin attacking Iran, sure Iran can strike their military bases, but as long as there is a second strike capability by submarines, and aviation

    The only way to cool them down after a defensive strike, is by the credible deterrent of nuclear weapons

    And we can hope that Iran would think about this way, and not maintain a secret nuclear delivery ability, that noone knows about, only to find about it, too late

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    Post  Erk Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:11 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:This is why Iran will end up with nuclear weapons very soon

    ...
    Iran doesn't need nuclear weapons, it has more than enough conventions missiles to destroy every square inch of Israel if Iran was attacked.

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    Post  nomadski Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:31 am

    Werewolf wrote:@ Werewolf

    "We do not want this Nazi jews in Russia or any historical Russian territory and since this Nazis have already made some plans to use Russia's depopulated lands on 404 as a new Israhell then Russia has to root out any such attempts and plans."

    The main determinants of behaviour is environment . People behave very differently , when they  live in different countries . Stressed populations , like caged and hungry Rats , start to fight . Israel is over-populated and not presently economically viable . One solution is to allow Israeli emigration to the USA or Europe / Germany . The present day Germans seem very pro - Israel , and should be welcoming .




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    Post  ahmedfire Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:54 am

    Low IQ Piers Morgan can't compete with Bassem Youssef ( Egyptian standup comedy) .

    One of the best interviews i have seen recently .





    Whole interview here

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    Post  ahmedfire Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:02 am



    Hezbollah Yesterday attack


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    Post  ahmedfire Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:32 am


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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:40 am

    nomadski wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:@ Werewolf

    "We do not want this Nazi jews in Russia or any historical Russian territory and since this Nazis have already made some plans to use Russia's depopulated lands on 404 as a new Israhell then Russia has to root out any such attempts and plans."

    The main determinants of behaviour is environment . People behave very differently , when they  live in different countries . Stressed populations , like caged and hungry Rats , start to fight . Israel is over-populated and not presently economically viable . One solution is to allow Israeli emigration to the USA or Europe / Germany . The present day Germans seem very pro - Israel , and should be welcoming .




    Very Happy

    Germany and Europe are not an option because they are already overpopulated and because the Israelis themselves would not return to those places. I think that Israelis should go to Canada or Australia. They are huge countries with friendly populations. Look at progressive Justin Trodeua, he'll be a great host for sure. In those countries they will be better treated and they will surely be able to contribute their invaluable knowledge to the history of humanity.


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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:45 am

    What about Russia? Very Happy russia

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    Post  ahmedfire Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:47 am

    Wow he was lying too

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    Post  nomadski Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:29 am







    More Palestinian misfiring Rockets on Quds Hospital area ! Also these Palestinian cheap Rockets fell on a number of Bakeries ! The flight vanes , badly welded , bent and misdirected to six Bakeries !

    scratch

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:45 am

    Following Putin's comments

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    Post  SolidarityWithRussia Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:04 pm

    It looks like Jordan promised to declare war on Israel, if they displaced Palestinians from Gaza. So we have Lebanon, Iran, Syria, Iraq and Jordan that would likely fight against Zionists in that case. Probably the Taliban and Pakistan would join as well.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:13 pm

    Egypt too.

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    Post  Arrow Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:18 pm

    Following Putin's comments wrote:

    What is the purpose of this patrol? Will the US be scared? It's more likely to make them laugh.
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    Post  Hole Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:33 pm

    I think that Israelis should go to Canada
    Great idea. Worshippers of Bandera and Israelis in one country. What could go wrong? lol1

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    Post  franco Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:47 pm

    Hole wrote:
    I think that Israelis should go to Canada
    Great idea. Worshippers of Bandera and Israelis in one country. What could go wrong? lol1

    Good God man, what have you guys got against us? Shocked

    We are already knee deep in nazi's sniper and neofascist liberals attack Now you want to drown us with Zionist cry

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:19 pm

    You can build a big circus, put them all there, and let them fight using wooden spoons.
    Just suggesting ...
    Twisted Evil

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:24 pm

    Argentine Patagonia was one of the options that Theodor Herzl proposed to give the Jews a home.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:28 pm

    If Israel were to face a direct confrontation with its neighboring countries: Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan and Syria; I don't think it's going very well for him.
    To this we should add the participation of Iran, Yemen and other Arab countries.
    Something that would give a constant flow of fighters attacking on each side of its borders.
    Not to mention the missiles and rockets that would rain down on their cities.
    Besides, I doubt that today he would be able to expand his troops much if he were to advance into other territories.

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    Post  Isos Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:38 pm

    Putin comments were more about preventing US to do something stupid against their base in Syria. They won't fight for Gaza...

    You can easily considere that Turkey will let the russian tupolevs use their airspace in case they want to help arabs destroy those carriers (if their base in Syria was touched in a cross shooting).

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:00 pm

    MORE THAN 600 CHILDREN REPORTED UNDER THE DEBRIS (LIVE AND DEAD) ISRAEL DOES NOT ALLOW ENTRY OF SPECIAL RESCUE TEAMS.

    They are trying to rescue children from under the rubble after the bombing of several homes by the Israeli occupation in the Gaza Strip at dawn today.

    https://t.me/PalestinaHoy/9781

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    Post  nomadski Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:46 pm

    Israel was shocked by Hamas attack . The planning for this attack ? Why take hostages for demands , if you already close the avenue for negotiations by killings ? And I heard them say " prisoner exchange and our Holy sites ! " and yet others say " A two state solution ! " Therefore we have a mix of tactics and demands . Some contrary to others , and some very long on hope . But I have said before , we can not criticise a population under a vicious occupation , for their tactics and politics . This is like blaming  the Jewish prison guards , who took the corpses out of the gas chamber , to load into incinerators , for added rations ! A few more days to live .

    It is obvious that Israel will push for it's plan to destroy Hamas and expelling Palestinians from Gaza . The shock that was induced , allows for nothing else ! In the eyes of the Israeli population . Nor will they negotiate over hostages . It is late for that , and voices are drowned by the sound of explosions . And Hamas ? They know the score now , and will hold on to the last . They have nothing to loose now . So this war , will continue .

    And can enough be done to save Gaza ? Nothing short of a full scale war , may achieve this aim . So far only Lebanon seems to have made any effort . And will the Arab states be compelled to move ? Hamas will hold on to the last , hoping  ! And Israel will push to the last , praying  ! Iran is calling for a cease-fire at best , showing no desire for direct or full scale involvement . And so far the Arab states , seem resigned to the fact . They did not move , when lives were being lost , why then bother if troops enter or exit ?

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