Ukrainian grandma says she's too old to fight Russians in the infantry so learned to pilot drones instead
A Ukrainian grandmother said she joined the Ukrainian military as a drone pilot as a way to fight, despite being unable to join the infantry.
The woman, referred to only by her first name, Natalia, spoke to Suspilne Ukraine, a public broadcaster.
Natalia described herself as a 54-year-old grandmother of six, per the broadcaster's TikTok video. She said she used to be a thermal power engineer.
She said her age ruled her out of infantry service — joking that she wasn't allowed to run and jump like its soldiers.
But, she said, there are no age restrictions when it comes to piloting unmanned aerial vehicles.
Playing a role in Ukraine's army "is a great honor because not only men but also women have to defend the country," she said, according to a translation by Anton Gerashchenko, an advisor in Ukraine's internal affairs ministry.
There are very few people left able to serve in Ukraine
The manpower was depleted a long time ago lol
Don't feel sorry for them at all, this is what happens to nations who fall into ignorance and arrogance which is a deadly combination
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Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:If only those who have experienced the USSR for 10 years or more and are now 40 to 50 are recruited in Ukraine, but the boys up to 25 and 30 are not led to the army and thus to the slaughter, this means that on the western side a new completely indoctrinated Ukrainian people will create themselves who want to take revenge for their fathers.
No wonder they have no interest in ending this slaughter.
No change. Apparently, efforts are currently concentrated to the east (Promka) and north. However, the direction may intensify in case of manoeuvre of our reserves and means of defeat, forcing the Ukrainians to keep forces on standby here.
South-east of Avdeevka
1) Tsarskaya Okhota - no confirmation of advancement to the north. The bridge over the railway we lost long ago, there is no evidence of its return. Front along the DKAD (if nothing has changed). 2) Promka - we are reaching Promka, the AFU are still resisting. Also fighting continues in Vineyards 3) We start operating in the forests west and north of Promka. The forests are important as a bridgehead against the private sector in Avdeevka and as a means to cut off the chemical bomb in the form of the DFZ, occupying it without a fight.
Northern flank
1) Partially confirmed information about the advance between the two railway lines to the Zarya dachas. Up to them on one railway 1 km, on the other railway 2.5 km. 2) West of the railway Ocheretino - Avdeevka in the area of Stepnoye fog of war. Ours definitely have several bridgeheads behind the railway, but the exact situation is unknown. Most likely now ours provide the northern flank and suppress the southern flank (AKHZ). 3) AKHZ - the fog of war, so far information about the advance towards the railway station Khimik is not confirmed 4) Claims of controlling the treatment plant and advancing along the settling ponds are not confirmed visually. 5) Ukrainians claim our activity from Veseloye village southwards to the sand pit, no confirmation
Conclusions:
The AFU continue to concentrate on defending their flanks outside Avdeevka, gradually moving to rearguard fighting in their defence nodes on the south-eastern and north-eastern approaches to the city. An important indicator will be the firmness of their defences in the forests near Promka. Our advance here, in addition to forcing the AFU to concentrate its forces in Avdeevka (where their supplies are under our fire), will allow us to push the enemy further away from our most important Donetsk-Gorlovka rocket road.
In the north, the Russian Armed Forces continue to use the tactic of transferring pressure from one area to another, preventing the AFU from using reserves. In particular, the Russian army is expanding its control of the Ocheretino - Avdeevka railway line, improving its positions against Stepnoye and Berdychy. Also, the Russian army is increasingly threatening Novokalynovo.
The current direction of the strike confirms the version that the aim here is to outflank Avdeevka and break through its reserve defence line.
https://t.me/NovichokRossiya/41807
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According to Insider, Sandu’s trip to Ukraine is connected with Cameron’s visit to Kyiv and Chisinau, after which work with British intelligence sharply intensified along the lines of possible scenarios for the PMR case.
Today, negotiations between Sandu and Zelensky are expected on the timing and formats of the military campaign of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Transnistria.
https://t.me/insider_md/906
Sandu came to Kyiv on three issues. 1. Discuss preparations for provocation in the Transnistrian case 2. Grain corridor, which also goes through the PMR to Moldova. 3. Economic blockade of the PMR 4. Military issues related to the Ukrainian crisis and the preparation of the Moldovan army. 5. Catching Ukrainians who are fleeing to Moldova from mobilization.
Moldovan insider channels are already publishing leaks.
Arnaud Bertrand @RnaudBertrand This is truly stunning: https://twitter.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1726622797118804153/video/1
Richard Haas, president of the Council on Foreign Relations for 10 years until June this year, saying:
"Even if we give everything we need to give to Ukraine it still won't lead to success... Therefore the U.S. needs to have some very direct conversations with Ukraine and talk about reducing their emphasis on liberating land, increasingly put their emphasis on holding onto what they've got... The idea that 1 or 2 or 3 more years of this is going to result in success, I simply don't see it... Anytime in life there's a big gap between what you're trying to do and your ability to do it, you either need to increase your means or lower your goals: here the only realistic option is to lower our goals."
In other words, the war is not only lost, it's unwinnable.
First and foremost, what an immense waste of human life. Not only was this one of the most easily preventable wars of all times, but the West actively worked to prevent any peace deals early on in the war like the one tentatively reached in Istanbul just 1 month or so into the war, convincing Ukraine they'd be better off fighting. 100s of thousands of deaths later and here we are.... Will there be any reckoning? Sadly, I'm pretty sure there won't, just a depressing disaster all around.
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JohninMK wrote:UK MoD catching up with the news, but naturally not confirming the UKAF aircraft loses that brought it to their attention.
Still a big element of BS however. Russia hasn't started using the A-50s with S-400 because of some flimsy spectre of "Western combat aircraft" entering the fray (who the fck really thinks Russia is concerned about obsolete worn-out F-16s ). It is introducing them as the UkroLuftwaffe has been gutted and their AD missile inventory has been emptied out by the successful Russian SEAD campaign, and the threat level to Russian AWACS is now demed low enough to permit their introduction.
UK MoD are fcking idiots and hopeless LIARS. Pathetic little people who insist on deluding themselves that they somehow matter on the global stage
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RTN wrote:Prospects are dim for Russia. The best and brightest among Russians have fled. Thousands are pouring in into Finland and other parts of Europe.
The retardation is strong with this one...
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Still a big element of BS however. Russia hasn't started using the A-50s with S-400 because of some flimsy spectre of "Western combat aircraft" entering the fray (who the fck really thinks Russia is concerned about obsolete worn-out F-16s ). It is introducing them as the UkroLuftwaffe has been gutted and their AD missile inventory has been emptied out by the successful Russian SEAD campaign, and the threat level to Russian AWACS is now demed low enough to permit their introduction.
UK MoD are fcking idiots and hopeless LIARS. Pathetic little people who insist on deluding themselves that they somehow matter on the global stage
Yes, AWACS were not needed for su35 to hit Ukrainian Aircraft, which were detected because they would fly higher to strike at propaganda targets
In other words the clowns in Ukrainian airforce would fly their aircraft high to lob storm shadow , and reveal their own position to Russian IADS,
Then su35 would get the target, and send r77 up their ass
Now, AWACS is detecting low flying munitions with small RCS that fly below radar horizon
And then cueing the target to s400
This is the way VKS can fight thousands of NATO stealth fighters
Anything high will get killed at long range by r77 and r37
Low flying f35 will be detected by A100, and midcourse guidance to 40n6 will direct it to close proximity, until IIR/active homing seeker kills the stealth fighter of the enemy
And believe it, if 40n6 can provide active homing in terminal phase to storm shadows, it will kill f35 easily
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Arkanghelsk wrote:Ukrainian grandma says she's too old to fight Russians in the infantry so learned to pilot drones instead
A Ukrainian grandmother said she joined the Ukrainian military as a drone pilot as a way to fight, despite being unable to join the infantry.
The woman, referred to only by her first name, Natalia, spoke to Suspilne Ukraine, a public broadcaster.
Natalia described herself as a 54-year-old grandmother of six, per the broadcaster's TikTok video. She said she used to be a thermal power engineer.
She said her age ruled her out of infantry service — joking that she wasn't allowed to run and jump like its soldiers.
But, she said, there are no age restrictions when it comes to piloting unmanned aerial vehicles.
Playing a role in Ukraine's army "is a great honor because not only men but also women have to defend the country," she said, according to a translation by Anton Gerashchenko, an advisor in Ukraine's internal affairs ministry.
There are very few people left able to serve in Ukraine
The manpower was depleted a long time ago lol
Don't feel sorry for them at all, this is what happens to nations who fall into ignorance and arrogance which is a deadly combination
So they're down to sending meth heads to combat now? Damn.
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Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Any info on how numerous are so called "Ukrainian partisans"? They recently poisoned 4 soldiers in Melitopol, three of whom died.
"Partisans" is a heavily romaticized wording for SBU agents.
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RTN wrote:Prospects are dim for Russia. The best and brightest among Russians have fled. Thousands are pouring in into Finland and other parts of Europe.
The retardation is strong with this one...
Cut him some slack. Connecticut's educational system is so bad that back in 2016 a judge ruled the entire public school system there unconstitutional. Then there's the fact that its getting ever more difficult to keep up with the American exceptionalism and military mystique. I mean its been a long and difficult war for the Yankee imperialists and its not going their way. When Putin told them what his war aims were they laughed him off as some sort of fanatic. To borrow from Michael [I]Morrell, Americans are almost genetically predisposed to distrust Russia (106 years of indoctrination will do that to ya) and are deeply stewed in notions of invincibility. Dolts like RTN are finding it very difficult as their illusions and indoctrination is crumbling around them. The Russians were supposed to be out of rockets in March (of last year), had to use washing machine chips, were losing ground all around, were amassing conscripts that they couldn't supply with weapons or winter clothing. The 100 billion+ in weaponry, each one of them a bigger game changer than the one before was going to turn the tide and then some "conscript army" reduced them to twisted burnt out scraps of metal. The Ukrainian offensive was supposed to win the war and the RUssians were going to be booted from Crimea in July (2023) and now they smoke the copium that some insignificant river crossing may or may not have been taken. So they cling to the false hope seen on wikipedia that the Russian army is mutinying (the source for this is the Ukrainian military, not exactly a reliable source) or the hope that Russia has no more supplies, men, money etc. When you are so indoctrinated that you believe your own indoctrination and then reality rears its ugly head and kicks you in the ass you know its only gonna get worse for you. I mean I almost feel sorry for the guy. Almost is the key word because its ignorant ass clowns like him that keep sending the same war mongering buffoons to Washington that keep getting us into all sorts of wars that only make us weaker
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Actor, choreographer, and director Polina Menshikh was mortally wounded in a Ukrainian rocket attack, her colleagues revealed on Tuesday. The strike reportedly used HIMARS systems supplied to Kiev by the US to first destroy the stage during a charity concert and then target the first responders who came to help.
Menshikh, 40, was the head of the Lege Artis studio. She was in the town of Kumachovo, in the Starobeshevo district of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) on Sunday to perform at a concert for Russian troops. The performance was cut short, however, when a volley of HIMARS missiles struck the concert hall.
“It is with great pain that we inform you that Polina Menshikh, the director of ‘The Last Trial’ (Lege Artis), died yesterday at a performance in Donbass as a result of shelling,” the Portal Theater Studio said in a statement. ‘The Last Trial’ is a rock opera based on the fantasy series Dragonlance. The December 9 performance will be dedicated to the memory of Menshikh, Portal said.
Russia needs to KILL 10x more Ukrainian and NATO Pigs as payback for this Terrorist attack. A bomb attack somewhere in the United States that will KILL several dozen Anglo Americans needs to commence ASAP.
Godric wrote:Russia seriously needs to make a priority of finding Himars and destroying them
The war against NATO is basically won when the HIMARS threat is fully neutralized.
1. The war is already basically won
2. Ph, I get and appreciate the sentiment, but the escalation you want is exactly what NATO wants.
3. Ukraine is basically using all its wunderwaffles against soft targets aka committing terrorism because its losing and losing badly. They want a Russian war crime or Russian strikes on NATO countries because NAFO mutts and our resident trolls aside, people in the west are getting very tired of paying for Joe Biden and Yuts Stoltenberg's courtesan Voldomorta Zelenskaya. Only a proven Russian attack on NATO countries or a war crime would bring back some of the support.
4. I am saddened that this actress died and people were hurt and killed, but if you want retaliation reduce Ukrainian government buildings to rubble.
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They will have referendums, but the local have to understand that being neutral is not possible anymore for them.
The time it would take to organise a referendum should be time to explain to the people what their options are and what that would mean for them.
It has demonstrated that is not a country that can existing independently, so it is either a puppet of other countries or they can become integral regions of Russia.
It is something for them to decide really.
Since they are not able to be a real independent state, if they do not want to reunite with Russia is for them to become a sort of Puerto Rico style protectorate, without any saying in foreign policy and without being allowed to have foreign investment.
Taiwan wasn't an independent country until it was...
Furthermore in such case Russia should make clear that it will also not invest anything, and foreign countries will not be allowed to do that either, so their quality of life will not be better than Puerto Rico or Haiti.
If they choose neutrality they might end up with Russian guarantees of security that include very much a situation that Kiev was supposed to negotiate with its eastern districts... Kiev was going to manage the border with Russia, so why should they be upset about Russian forces managing their border with the EU?
At least they wont continue to shell and bomb them.
Again if even a part of former ukraine is allowed to exist as an independent country they will sooner or later create problems for Russia and Bielorussia and they will create also problems for trading with Hungary.
Look at Russias experience... when it kicked off most of the 5th columnists ran away... well don't let them come back.
The Americans and foreigners will likely leave first.... so let them... and cancel the Ukrainian passport so such a country no longer exists so Ukrainians with Ukrainian passports encouraged by the CIA and the west can't demand the right to come home and start agitating.
Prospects are dim for Russia. The best and brightest among Russians have fled. Thousands are pouring in into Finland and other parts of Europe.
Those are the cowards and the weak... the best and the brightest are making drones and missiles and tanks and aircraft, or they are filling the gaps left by foreign companies leaving the Russian market creating new products for Russians to buy instead of foreign stuff.
You made couple of typos there, fixed them for you.
The one thing you got wrong was millions instead of thousands...
Playing a role in Ukraine's army "is a great honor because not only men but also women have to defend the country," she said, according to a translation by Anton Gerashchenko, an advisor in Ukraine's internal affairs ministry.
So the propaganda starts... ladies... this old grandma is fighting and you refuse? Are you a coward? It is ok, the military will find a way for you to fight without any risk at all to you. When your interview ends they will stamp front line infantry on your documents and you go to the front...
There are very few people left able to serve in Ukraine
The manpower was depleted a long time ago lol
If their men were real men they would not allow this... there is little hope for morality at the top... they are all US dollar whores now, but the actual population of Ukraine should not accept this... but if they do then there is no saving them... they are not worth saving.
Should not the Poles want revenge for their slaughtered compatriots?
Poles have been getting enormous doses of propaganda from all sides... I rather doubt they know who to fight first...
Low flying f35 will be detected by A100, and midcourse guidance to 40n6 will direct it to close proximity,
To maximise range it generally uses a lofted flight trajectory so coming down nearly vertically on an F-35 that is not the F-35s most stealthy aspect...
Russia seriously needs to make a priority of finding Himars and destroying them
I suspect that is already the case.
The war against NATO is basically won when the HIMARS threat is fully neutralized.
Will it ever be neutralised?
You can't protect everything all the time.
Speaking of Mr_HDs talk of crossing a river...
Repeated it dozens of times already, Russia is not trying to take or hold land so a Ukrainian advance is not a win for Ukraine or a loss for Russia... it is a trap to try to kill all the Ukrainians that move forward... it is the meat grinder continuing to grind meat.
We have also said that the sooner Ukraine surrenders the more land they will end up with... if they had followed through on the things they promised to do for Minsk they would have kept everything except Crimea... they might have had to allow the Russian language to be used in the eastern regions, but overall their territorial integrity would be fine... give it another 20 years and they might start speaking Ukrainian... who knows...
But bombing and shelling them for almost 10 years and then fighting a bloody war with them and of course they wont want to have anything to do with you any more... idiots.
The longer Kiev fights the less they will end up with.... which I totally support... listen to Zelensky... fight to the last man because that makes it much easier when there are no brainwashed murderers that need to be deprogrammed... or are wandering around like time bombs.
When the EU sees what Eastern Ukraine looks like in 5 years I think a couple of countries will want to join the Russian Federation too...
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“A Bradley may be hit, but the crew survives,” Melynk said.
The same can’t be said of the BMP-2 IFV, Russia’s answer to the M-2. Hit a BMP-2, Melynk said, and “the entire crew dies.”
2) Result of Western propaganda
According to Melynk, some Ukrainian commanders genuinely believed Russian troops would simply give up the first time they saw a Ukrainian M-2—or Leopard 2 tank—rolling toward them.
“The whole plan of the big counteroffensive was based on simple things: a Muscovite sees a Bradley, a Leopard—and runs away,” Melynk said.
That of course didn’t happen.
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GarryB wrote:Poles have been getting enormous doses of propaganda from all sides... I rather doubt they know who to fight first
Actually a friend of mine, one of the few poles that is not antirussian, mentioned that it is quite strange that since a few years ago (I do not know when it started exactly, maybe just before the Euro2012 football tournament) there has been a strong propaganda in Poland in favour of Ukraine. Before that Ukrainians were hated as much as the Russians.
Exactly. It was a gathering of military personnel, no matter the cause. A legitimate target. It is war. And quite a dirty one, honestly. There are multiple recordings when WIA soldiers are being killed during treatment, evacuation, or awaiting it. Ambulances are being targeted. Medics teams hunted. Both sides are doing that, so there is perfectly zero ground for rage towards one of the sides. The only thing that objectively can't be blamed on the Russian side, is killing POWs, which is quite common for the Ukrs.
Godric wrote:Russia seriously needs to make a priority of finding Himars and destroying them
Why? Because once in half a year they can hit something not being their own POWs in prisoners camp? There are multiple reports that Russkie are jamming effectively both HIMARS and Copperhead to the level making them close to useless. And those are not Russian reports but from Forbes or Bloomberg. This process is actually funny to follow, because the western narrative made some 180 deg turn in the last year. Now, Russians are not forced to fight with shovels and rip chips from washing machines. They are now a technological superpower, destroying tiny&poor Ukraine with waves of high technology weapon systems, provided by the mighty MIC and the evil satellite allies. Everything to powder up the fact that NATO weaponry is losing a major war no matter what and how many they apply.
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There is an exhibition of a destroyed Russian tank in Helsinki: https://mil.in.ua/en/news/a-damaged-russian-tank-was-brought-to-finland-for-an-exhibition/
I suppose the only reason for this exhibition is that “Russian soldiers died in the tank” and people want to see it themselves.
and the threat level to Russian AWACS is now demed low enough to permit their introduction.
The radar of the A-50U has a range of 400+km, depending on the target. If the plane stays 200km behind the frontline it still can see flying objects up to 200km behind the enemy lines and send info to long-range SAM systems. The 40N6 missile got the range and the active seeker to hit anything at that range. The Ukro SAM´s had a range of max. 150km, so the A-50 was relatively save even before the nearly complete destruction of the Ukro AD network.
What changed was the use of stand-off weapons by the Ukros. As long as they were using planes for bombing runs or rocket strikes at frontline targets the Russians didn´t care much about shooting them down at long range. They used their medium and short range AD systems to destroy aerial threats. Very successfully. After the introduction of cruise missiles the Russian MoD drew a line a few kilometres east and south of Kiev and now anything trying to cross that line will be shot down.
So they're down to sending meth heads to combat now?
They don´t feel pain.
"Partisans" is a heavily romaticized wording for SBU agents.
Depends on their religion. Muslims are usually called "terrorists" instead of "partisans" by the civilized west.
BMP-2 IFV, Russia’s answer to the M-2.
How can the older vehicle be the answer to the younger one? Must be one of those cases when the Russians used their timemachine. Like them stealing the american super-duper hypersonic tech.
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). It is introducing them as the UkroLuftwaffe has been gutted and their AD missile inventory has been emptied out by the successful Russian SEAD campaign, and the threat level to Russian AWACS is now demed low enough to permit their introduction.
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