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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51
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franco wrote:The country's military registration and enlistment offices intend to conscript 20 thousand people into the army every month, reports the Ukrainian publication Strana.ua.
20k a month does not even catch up with the speed Russkie are killing them.
And about those tanks, not sure what this tweet is talking about Painting tanks with blue&yellow was notorious, and the tank is a junk having nothing to do with the parades.
On the other hand, the two first ones looks freshly new, and are probably some Bulat-like newly made modification that rolled out from some repair plant. Which is much more disturbing.
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Watch to the end. She should have stopped before nature told her to.
This is a really bad storm in the Black Sea
The embankment of Andrew the First-Called in Sevastopol. The hurricane swept away everything except the monument to the Apostle.
This is a really bad storm in the Black Sea
The embankment of Andrew the First-Called in Sevastopol. The hurricane swept away everything except the monument to the Apostle.
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No way is this generation going to be unbrainwashed.
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The Azov epigone of the SS Galizien has been training the youth of Ukraine in Nazism for 10 years, following the example of Hitler-Jugent.
Today, these Azov-Jugend youth constitute the most fanatical barrier forces shooting at retreating soldiers
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The Azov epigone of the SS Galizien has been training the youth of Ukraine in Nazism for 10 years, following the example of Hitler-Jugent.
Today, these Azov-Jugend youth constitute the most fanatical barrier forces shooting at retreating soldiers
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JohninMK wrote:No way is this generation going to be unbrainwashed.
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The Azov epigone of the SS Galizien has been training the youth of Ukraine in Nazism for 10 years, following the example of Hitler-Jugent.
Today, these Azov-Jugend youth constitute the most fanatical barrier forces shooting at retreating soldiers
They don't need to be.
Execution for war crimes.
Long imprisonment and forced labour
Eventual relocation to a Russian controlled protectorate, preferably as small, poverty stricken and miserable as possible.
Or eventually they can **** off to Germany to clean toilets and fight to the death with queers and Islamists. Quite a poetic end for the Neoliberal gang of the West.
The Nazi scum are were put in influential positions, but they aren't the majority of the former Ukraine, even in the Western half. Its prob around a 1/4 with a similar amount of more diluted hohol-scum who believed the propaganda but who's children or themselves could see the light, much like a lot of Germans did after WW2.
The op is about saving decent people, and killing vermin.
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The very first what I saw on this vid with blizzard&snow, is a luxury, brand new Hyundai Palisade worth some $80k.
Import of luxury cars to 404 tenfolded in 2023, with echelons full of both brand new&Jahreswagen luxury SUVs being driven across Poland in lorries long as a fukin' train.
They have imported an insane number of cars for a whole period of war, as import taxes for cars were nulled, only till some 6 months ago those were old, used cars for private importers.
Of course because they have imported them for army
Most of the border traffic jams were because of private car import.
This is again something that jumps out of the box, if someone won't witness that.
How is that even possible, that a country on the edge of collapsing, lacking half of it's population, carrying a devastating war of attraction they are losing heavily - puts so much effort for importing used cars.
And it can be cleared only when someone will know some Ukrainians. Not Russkie who are unfortunate living there, but the true Khokhols.
Import of luxury cars to 404 tenfolded in 2023, with echelons full of both brand new&Jahreswagen luxury SUVs being driven across Poland in lorries long as a fukin' train.
They have imported an insane number of cars for a whole period of war, as import taxes for cars were nulled, only till some 6 months ago those were old, used cars for private importers.
Of course because they have imported them for army
Most of the border traffic jams were because of private car import.
This is again something that jumps out of the box, if someone won't witness that.
How is that even possible, that a country on the edge of collapsing, lacking half of it's population, carrying a devastating war of attraction they are losing heavily - puts so much effort for importing used cars.
And it can be cleared only when someone will know some Ukrainians. Not Russkie who are unfortunate living there, but the true Khokhols.
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On the Situation in #Avdeyevka Sector
1. We had success in the industrial zone (Promka - industrial zone of the colony), which is to the right of the well-known AFU checkpoint No. 1 on the Ring Road towards #Yasinovataya. Well done, we took a serious fortification, from where a lot of things flew at #Donetsk.
2. If we take the Coke Plant, we can send warm greetings to #Avdeyevka. To keep people there for the APU would simply mean killing personnel. But they do not care about. The enemy did the same in #Bakhmut, sending people to slaughter in packs. By the way, they had a 50,000 strong group there, and Wagner with 25-30 thousand fighters worked against them.
3. Basic military truth: if you find yourself in a semicircle, take the people away. No, they clung to the “#Bakhmut fortress”, now - to the “#Avdeyevka fortress”. Idiocy! When you lose serious fortifications, you need to retreat, straightening the line.
4. Do not run ahead of the locomotive. The enemy is still clinging to the Coke Plant and wants to fight for it, and we have made only two serious steps so far to master the #Avdeyevka fortification:
(a) In the first days of the offensive we caught hold of #Berdychi and passed a little to the right, which was very good. From the other flank took "Tsarskaya Okhota", but we were knocked out of there. The same thing, we had to leave #Berdychi. The success of the first days could not be consolidated and developed.
b) Promka - the second step. There is already a trench + dump (#Slagheap) - the dominant height above Coke Plant and most of #Avdeyevka. Now it is difficult to get the artillery to the dump, and there are "eyes", and the enemy at Coke is fierce.
5. After taking the Coke Plant, they have to leave #Avdeyevka. The next step is to close the ring and crimp it.
6. It is difficult with #Avdeyevka, because the fortifications and underground communications of the enemy were built by Kiev Metro Construction. If we knock the AFU out of there, it will be the most serious success for the time of the SMO after #Mariupol. There is no population left in #Avdeyevka. There are maybe a thousand grandmothers for a 30,000-strong town.
7. After taking #Avdeyevka up to #Kramatorsk, the enemy has virtually no serious fortifications. In the #Slavyansk - #Kramatorsk agglomeration there is a defence line with an airfield, headquarters, bunkers, built since 2014. But up to #Kramatorsk from #Avdeyevka there are no serious Ukrops with underground passages so that they can settle in.
https://t.me/sitreports/18669
1. We had success in the industrial zone (Promka - industrial zone of the colony), which is to the right of the well-known AFU checkpoint No. 1 on the Ring Road towards #Yasinovataya. Well done, we took a serious fortification, from where a lot of things flew at #Donetsk.
2. If we take the Coke Plant, we can send warm greetings to #Avdeyevka. To keep people there for the APU would simply mean killing personnel. But they do not care about. The enemy did the same in #Bakhmut, sending people to slaughter in packs. By the way, they had a 50,000 strong group there, and Wagner with 25-30 thousand fighters worked against them.
3. Basic military truth: if you find yourself in a semicircle, take the people away. No, they clung to the “#Bakhmut fortress”, now - to the “#Avdeyevka fortress”. Idiocy! When you lose serious fortifications, you need to retreat, straightening the line.
4. Do not run ahead of the locomotive. The enemy is still clinging to the Coke Plant and wants to fight for it, and we have made only two serious steps so far to master the #Avdeyevka fortification:
(a) In the first days of the offensive we caught hold of #Berdychi and passed a little to the right, which was very good. From the other flank took "Tsarskaya Okhota", but we were knocked out of there. The same thing, we had to leave #Berdychi. The success of the first days could not be consolidated and developed.
b) Promka - the second step. There is already a trench + dump (#Slagheap) - the dominant height above Coke Plant and most of #Avdeyevka. Now it is difficult to get the artillery to the dump, and there are "eyes", and the enemy at Coke is fierce.
5. After taking the Coke Plant, they have to leave #Avdeyevka. The next step is to close the ring and crimp it.
6. It is difficult with #Avdeyevka, because the fortifications and underground communications of the enemy were built by Kiev Metro Construction. If we knock the AFU out of there, it will be the most serious success for the time of the SMO after #Mariupol. There is no population left in #Avdeyevka. There are maybe a thousand grandmothers for a 30,000-strong town.
7. After taking #Avdeyevka up to #Kramatorsk, the enemy has virtually no serious fortifications. In the #Slavyansk - #Kramatorsk agglomeration there is a defence line with an airfield, headquarters, bunkers, built since 2014. But up to #Kramatorsk from #Avdeyevka there are no serious Ukrops with underground passages so that they can settle in.
https://t.me/sitreports/18669
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ALAMO wrote:The very first what I saw on this vid with blizzard&snow, is a luxury, brand new Hyundai Palisade worth some $80k.
Import of luxury cars to 404 tenfolded in 2023, with echelons full of both brand new&Jahreswagen luxury SUVs being driven across Poland in lorries long as a fukin' train.
They have imported an insane number of cars for a whole period of war, as import taxes for cars were nulled, only till some 6 months ago those were old, used cars for private importers.
Of course because they have imported them for army
Most of the border traffic jams were because of private car import.
This is again something that jumps out of the box, if someone won't witness that.
How is that even possible, that a country on the edge of collapsing, lacking half of it's population, carrying a devastating war of attraction they are losing heavily - puts so much effort for importing used cars.
And it can be cleared only when someone will know some Ukrainians. Not Russkie who are unfortunate living there, but the true Khokhols.
No winter tyres one suspects on the new vehicles doesn't help in this weather.
The country may be on the edge of collapsing but there are many there desperate to spend their share of the flood of US$ pouring into Kiev.
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Bullet through the head. No brain, no brainwashing.No way is this generation going to be unbrainwashed.
Meatgrinder only works if it has an opening.The next step is to close the ring
Biggest success is the killing of 600.000+ enemy fighters.it will be the most serious success for the time of the SMO
Most fortified area was the south-eastern part which has already been taken by the Russian Forces.because the fortifications and underground communications of the enemy were built by Kiev Metro Construction.
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reports are coming in Zelensky is to fire Zaluzhny in the next couple of days, if that happens the fireworks will go off big time in Ukraine
Mariana Bezuglaya is demanding Zaluzhny resigns
all the same she seems a real nasty piece of work
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Avdeevka won't be closed
Too many casualties fighting in the open ground
Mediazona revised casualty figures for October when the terrikon was taken, and although they aren't catastrophic, they were higher and resulted from troops getting hit by drones and artillery in the open
It's better to forget closing the pincers, and just assault Avdeevka like so:
This is the most sensible as the urban environment at least allows the attackers to have cover, and also just drop artillery directly on the Ukrainians instead of cutting off the MSR
Wagner lost many troops attempting it in Bakhmut, and MOD it seems has opted for a direct assault now
Which means Hole is right, they took the southeastern part, so they're just going into Avdeevka itself
They also went into the coke plant it seems in the north east it seems, but more confirmation is needed
Anyway no rush on this, as the major offensive won't start until Putins re-election
The Ukrainians won't be able to launch an offensives from here on out anyway, they will just go into defense with every woman, child, and cripple left
Too many casualties fighting in the open ground
Mediazona revised casualty figures for October when the terrikon was taken, and although they aren't catastrophic, they were higher and resulted from troops getting hit by drones and artillery in the open
It's better to forget closing the pincers, and just assault Avdeevka like so:
This is the most sensible as the urban environment at least allows the attackers to have cover, and also just drop artillery directly on the Ukrainians instead of cutting off the MSR
Wagner lost many troops attempting it in Bakhmut, and MOD it seems has opted for a direct assault now
Which means Hole is right, they took the southeastern part, so they're just going into Avdeevka itself
They also went into the coke plant it seems in the north east it seems, but more confirmation is needed
Anyway no rush on this, as the major offensive won't start until Putins re-election
The Ukrainians won't be able to launch an offensives from here on out anyway, they will just go into defense with every woman, child, and cripple left
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He had to have a yacht, or two
Zelensky’s Hidden Luxuries: Proxies, Yachts, and the $75M Scandal Rocking Ukraine
In the heart of Eastern Europe, where the tumult of war clashes with the allure of Western support, a seismic scandal unfolds, casting a long shadow over Ukraine’s leadership. President Volodymyr Zelensky, once seen as a beacon of hope against corruption, is now ensnared in a scandal involving the alleged purchase of two luxury yachts, “Lucky Me” and “My Legacy,” worth a combined $75 million. This lavish expenditure, facilitated in the opulent settings of Abu Dhabi and Antibes, starkly contrasts with Ukraine’s dire war reality and raises damning questions about the integrity and criminal liability of its leadership amidst heavy reliance on Western aid.
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Zelensky’s Hidden Luxuries: Proxies, Yachts, and the $75M Scandal Rocking Ukraine
In the heart of Eastern Europe, where the tumult of war clashes with the allure of Western support, a seismic scandal unfolds, casting a long shadow over Ukraine’s leadership. President Volodymyr Zelensky, once seen as a beacon of hope against corruption, is now ensnared in a scandal involving the alleged purchase of two luxury yachts, “Lucky Me” and “My Legacy,” worth a combined $75 million. This lavish expenditure, facilitated in the opulent settings of Abu Dhabi and Antibes, starkly contrasts with Ukraine’s dire war reality and raises damning questions about the integrity and criminal liability of its leadership amidst heavy reliance on Western aid.
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Exclusive interview with a fighter from the Wagner PMC, a participant in the Bakhmut Operation Gostom, Yunger
What is the complexity of the “Bakhmut meat grinder”, why are journalists inflating problems about the participation of former prisoners in a special military operation, about youth policy in Russia and plans for the future.
“They prepared for eight years. I don’t even mention Western weapons and NATO food products. All intersections of forest belts, roads, hills, thickets and banks of reservoirs are equipped for defense, dug with trenches, fortified with logs, stuffed with weapons and soldiers.
All this is covered by artillery and mortars from the city outskirts. Tanks are hiding in the city and there are reserves. There is no shortage of anything. But we managed to knock them out of their previously fortified and prepared positions in the fields. And drive it into the city. In street battles, where the enemy no longer had a chance.”
Read the full text on the ANNA NEWS portal.
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What is the complexity of the “Bakhmut meat grinder”, why are journalists inflating problems about the participation of former prisoners in a special military operation, about youth policy in Russia and plans for the future.
“They prepared for eight years. I don’t even mention Western weapons and NATO food products. All intersections of forest belts, roads, hills, thickets and banks of reservoirs are equipped for defense, dug with trenches, fortified with logs, stuffed with weapons and soldiers.
All this is covered by artillery and mortars from the city outskirts. Tanks are hiding in the city and there are reserves. There is no shortage of anything. But we managed to knock them out of their previously fortified and prepared positions in the fields. And drive it into the city. In street battles, where the enemy no longer had a chance.”
Read the full text on the ANNA NEWS portal.
anna_news
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JohninMK wrote:
“They prepared for eight years. I don’t even mention Western weapons and NATO food products. All intersections of forest belts, roads, hills, thickets and banks of reservoirs are equipped for defense, dug with trenches, fortified with logs, stuffed with weapons and soldiers.
All this is covered by artillery and mortars from the city outskirts. Tanks are hiding in the city and there are reserves. There is no shortage of anything. But we managed to knock them out of their previously fortified and prepared positions in the fields. And drive it into the city. In street battles, where the enemy no longer had a chance.”
Read the full text on the ANNA NEWS portal.
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It's tough to wrap one's head around this, it took me a while to understand, then I saw the maps with the defenses, and I understood, this defensive system is unlike anything built before
Thats why those who suggest that if supply routes were cutoff, everything would be simple, are wrong
You can't cutoff supply routes with such a vast country
You can interrupt, and disrupt logistics, but there's no way, and you'd take losses doing so as Bakhmut and Avdeevka show
It's better to just assault the system, and dismantle it
Once it's gone, that's it - they don't have 10 years to prepare another donbass
This is it
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Ukraine has never made a tactical withdrawal, every time they lose territory it is because their local troops were massacred and the new batch of cannon fodder did not arrive in time to take their positions in the meat grinder.
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Ukrainian-Russian war. Day 642:
Situation on Avdivka front: From the northern axis #UkrainianArmy launched a counterattack and reentered in some parts of Stepove/Степове forcing Russian troops to withdrew to the railway.
Meanwhile, from the southern axis #RussianArmy took full control over Vinogradniki dachas following Ukrainian withdrawal reaching the quarry at the outskirts of the city.
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Ukrainian-Russian war. Day 642:
Situation on Avdivka front: From the northern axis #UkrainianArmy launched a counterattack and reentered in some parts of Stepove/Степове forcing Russian troops to withdrew to the railway.
Meanwhile, from the southern axis #RussianArmy took full control over Vinogradniki dachas following Ukrainian withdrawal reaching the quarry at the outskirts of the city.
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It's crystal clear now!
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Hole wrote:
WO IST STEINER?!?!
Belisarius wrote:
Ukraine has never made a tactical withdrawal, every time they lose territory it is because their local troops were massacred and the new batch of cannon fodder did not arrive in time to take their positions in the meat grinder.
The shocking part of this story is how this kind of absolute lack of care for own soldiers is being covered by a massive propaganda.
Those people really live in a la la land, and they are really sure that reality can be reconstructed.
It is shocking. Simply shocking.
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It would be a good thing if some people here would sometimes take a look at pro-ukraine telegram channels to see that there are massive casualties on both sides. No way Russia can also maintain that high rate of manpower loss, somethings gotta give.
Ukraine in EU and NATO will eventually happen, might as well sue for peace now.
Ukraine in EU and NATO will eventually happen, might as well sue for peace now.
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Russia has 4 times larger population than Ukrainebandit6 wrote:It would be a good thing if some people here would sometimes take a look at pro-ukraine telegram channels to see that there are massive casualties on both sides. No way Russia can also maintain that high rate of manpower loss, somethings gotta give.
Ukraine in EU and NATO will eventually happen, might as well sue for peace now.
Who is going to run out of manpower first?
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Ukraine in EU and NATO will eventually happen, might as well sue for peace now.
Hahaha...yes, while Russia still has a chance it should surrender...
That would make all the losses and damage worth while to surrender just before your enemy collapses.
By your logic Stalin should have surrendered to Hitler when Soviet troops started entering Berlin...
Trying to the end...
But reality is that a ceasefire or peace agreement with the EU or US or Kiev is worthless, they already had two Minsk agreements and an agreement to stop the war which the west pissed all over and openly admitted that the Minsk agreements were a delaying tactic to build up Kievs forces so they could take what they wanted by force later on.
Why would any new agreement be any different.
Russia needs to break HATO and Kiev can only give an unconditional surrender or the war continues for as long as it takes.
This conflict will end with likely large areas of Ukraine joining the Russian federation and the remaining area in the west will become a neutral country that will never join the EU or HATO and will have Russian troops manning their border with EU countries to ensure there is no cheating this time.
This would be much better than what Kiev would have offered the Donbass and Lugansk regions... at least these Ukrainian regions can speak Ukrainian if they want... Russia wont tell them what languages they can or cannot use.
Russia also needs to discuss seriously with HATO about future security with Europe, because right now the EU and HATO thinks it can do anything it pleases and is ignoring that it is destroying its own economy to try to damage Russia... the first half is working but the second half is not.
Russia is not going to cooperate with the west... there will be something along the lines of a non aggression pact and I suspect Russia will start cutting ties with the west including shutting down all their embassies etc, and cutting cultural ties with the west which the west uses to try to infiltrate Russian society to do harm... Russian diplomats have a whole world to talk to and should waste time on Europe till it learns some respect and grows up.
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