Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51

bandit6 wrote:It would be a good thing if some people here would sometimes take a look at pro-ukraine telegram channels to see that there are massive casualties on both sides. No way Russia can also maintain that high rate of manpower loss, somethings gotta give.

Ukraine in EU and NATO will eventually happen, might as well sue for peace now.

bandit6 wrote:It would be a good thing if some people here would sometimes take a look at pro-ukraine telegram channels to see that there are massive casualties on both sides. No way Russia can also maintain that high rate of manpower loss, somethings gotta give.

Ukraine in EU and NATO will eventually happen, might as well sue for peace now.

bandit6 wrote:It would be a good thing if some people here would sometimes take a look at pro-ukraine telegram channels to see that there are massive casualties on both sides. No way Russia can also maintain that high rate of manpower loss, somethings gotta give.

Ukraine in EU and NATO will eventually happen, might as well sue for peace now.

JohninMK wrote:Last 16 employees at Avdiyivka coke plant left in early November, so the plant is dead. Once the furnaces go out they cannot be restarted. They also provided heating for the city, so no heat now.

VOA article from 2015 with a video of the plant says that all 1,700 employees of the plant were living underground for protection from shelling:

https://www.voanews.com/a/ukraine-coking-plant-caught-crossfire/2821100.html

The plant was constructed in 1963 by the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic to fulfil the coke needs of the nearby Mariupol Steel Works as well as the availability of coal from local mines. Originally opening with 1 coke battery, this expanded to nine by 1980 with investment from the Soviet Union. By 1988, 100 million tons of coke had been produced making it a major coke producer in Europe. In 1993 as Ukraine gained independence, the plant was privatised as the Open Joint Stock Company 'Avdeevskiy Coke-processing Works'

Trying to the end...

The Mediazona graph

It will represent a shithole populated by some 8 mln people

Russia couldn't possibly make its own.

The ratio of 1:4 does not make any sense.

ALAMO wrote:

Lapain wrote:Sure, Russia could display better effort at avoiding unecessary casualties by more decisive strikes, but it sure can sustain current trend for at least mid-2025.

If you combine those charts with dates and events, you will clearly see that they are doing quite fine in that.
The lowest ratios are observable when the mighty peremoga offensives were ongoing, both in the Summer of 22 and now.
It matches perfectly well the Russian strategy when they let the Ukrs bleed white for no gains while restricting their own casualties as much as possible.
I would call it funny to watch how the nafo impotents are masturbating each other using short hands to prove otherwise, yet something grounded with human misery and death can't be funny.

By the way, and regarding something revealed yesterday ...



This is T-72AMT John showed yesterday from X comments about "parade painting".
I haven't noticed that first ... but is it only me, or this tank has no ERA, only added panels and rubber skirts pretending so?!?

mnztr wrote:This ammo shortage is very reminiscent of the collapse of the German eastern front. First a stall, then very tight ammo supplies. Then a fighting retreat,  gradually deteriorating into a rout.

2 or 3 mortar rounds a day

ALAMO wrote:
Russkie presented an extreme pragmatism with this conflict. I am seriously impressed, as didn't expect them to be so much cynical.
Only by extrapolation, I would say they give a round shit about that.
In the final form, 404 will be a wasteland anyway. There is nothing in the western part of it that can sustain any kind of dreams of power.
There is no farming, no industry, no resources, but last but not least - there will be no people.
It will represent a shithole populated by some 8 mln people, where Bulgaria can be called a superpower in contrast.

kvs wrote:The utter lack of appreciation for Russian military industrial capacity is why you have endless yammering about North Korean artillery
shells.   Russia couldn't possibly make its own.   The only reason Russia has any deals with North Korea is to pound in the last nail
in NATzO's coffin of delusion.