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Because it worked so great the last time?
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Because it worked so great the last time?
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its not like they can bring a replacement through the bosphorus... also shipyards in the black sea cant seem to build patrol ships in reasonable time, let alone a bdkPapaDragon wrote:limb wrote:How about put it back into service?
Because it worked so great the last time?
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They have way to many ships anyway... NOT.
It is a landing ship... a brand new state of the art US or UK or French landing ship sitting at pier gets hit by a Tochka missile that starts a fire and those boats are loaded with 1,000 tons of ammo... I think the decision to scuttle the vessel was very sensible... as was the decision to raise it, restore it and put it back into service.
A fuel truck catches fire and the driver drives it into a nearby lake to prevent the local area turning into a burnt spot... of course you take the truck out of the water clean it up and put it back into service.
It is a landing ship... a brand new state of the art US or UK or French landing ship sitting at pier gets hit by a Tochka missile that starts a fire and those boats are loaded with 1,000 tons of ammo... I think the decision to scuttle the vessel was very sensible... as was the decision to raise it, restore it and put it back into service.
A fuel truck catches fire and the driver drives it into a nearby lake to prevent the local area turning into a burnt spot... of course you take the truck out of the water clean it up and put it back into service.
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franco wrote:BDK "Saratov" raised from the bottom of the sea in Berdyansk
According to Vladimir Rogov, a representative of the military-civilian administration of the Zaporozhye region, on his Telegram channel, the landing ship Saratov was raised from the bottom of the Sea of Azov yesterday.
The operation to lift the landing ship was carried out in the port of the city of Berdyansk, which is located in the south of the Zaporozhye region near the coast of the Sea of Azov.
"Saratov" was heavily damaged on March 24 during the shelling of the Berdyansk port by the Ukrainian military. The blow was delivered by missiles of the Tochka-U complex.
As Rogov explains, the crew decided to flood the ship after a fire started on it. Otherwise, this could lead to the detonation of the ammunition on board.
Recall that Berdyansk and other settlements of the Zaporozhye region, located along the Sea of Azov, were liberated by Russian troops in March this year.
"Saratov" was the first landing ship of its series, built back in 1964 in Kaliningrad. During its long history , the ship had to visit many parts of the world. Saratov took part in the events in Georgia in 2008, and during the reunification of Crimea in 2014. With the start of the special operation in Ukraine, the ship was also involved in it.
https://topwar-ru.translate.goog/198493-saratov-podnjali-so-dna-morja.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
Such technology is more than 100 years old. Use void iron cylinders, fix them to the hull of a sunken ship, patch up the hull to make it watertight, pump out water and the ship rises on surface.. Than tow her to the repair yard for refit.
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On the TV show mythbusters they actually raised a small boat using ping pong balls... they just covered up all upper openings on the boat where the balls could escape and then just pumped ping pong balls into the hull till it floated to the surface and could be towed away to get into a dry dock which could then be drained, the hull patched up and the balls removed.
For quick and dirty salvages two enormous airbags with chains between them... place an airbag on either side of the hull deflated and feed the chains between the airbags under the hull of the boat or object you want to lift... lots of chains spreading the lifting force... then just slowly pump air into the airbags making sure it does not over balance to one side or the other.
Make the chains shorter than the hull sides and you can actually lift the bridge and upper area out of the water which, once it empties of water will make the ship more buoyant too.
For quick and dirty salvages two enormous airbags with chains between them... place an airbag on either side of the hull deflated and feed the chains between the airbags under the hull of the boat or object you want to lift... lots of chains spreading the lifting force... then just slowly pump air into the airbags making sure it does not over balance to one side or the other.
Make the chains shorter than the hull sides and you can actually lift the bridge and upper area out of the water which, once it empties of water will make the ship more buoyant too.
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special operation with participation of russian navy ships
https://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/276376.html
3rd Gazprom convoy
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Between the end of January and the end of April. The Russian Navy conducted a special operation on an ocean scale, which, unfortunately, went unnoticed, since the attention of the domestic and world community since February 24 has been riveted to the NWO in Ukraine. At the same time, the operation carried out by the fleet - the third in a row of its kind (about the first two - by the mark ) - is very important for reconfiguring the country's economy to new geopolitical realities, as it is associated with the transition to the Far East of three Gazprom ships, which are urgently needed for development of the Yuzhno-Kirinskoye field on the Sakhalin shelf in the Sea of Okhotsk - the most likely resource base for increasing gas supplies to China in accordance with the agreement dated 04.02.2022. Information concerning the participation in the passage of warships is negligible. Only one of its final episodes is known for certain, everything else is based on the assumptions of the blog author.
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"Admiral Panteleev" and "Akademik Chersky" near Tsushima, 04/19/2022 (Japanese Ministry of Defense)
Around 9 a.m. on April 19, about 80 km west of the Danjo Islands (on the approach to the Tsushima Strait from the southwest), the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Forces observed a detachment of Russian ships and vessels as part of the Admiral Panteleev Pacific Fleet BOD (number 548) , a medium sea tanker "Izhora", a rescue sea tug SB-408 and three purely civilian vessels - a crane-mounting pipelayer (KMTUS) "Akademik Chersky" and supply vessels for drilling rigs "Ivan Sidorenko" and "Ostap Sheremeta". Later, the detachment passed through the Tsushima Strait towards the Sea of Japan ( reference 1 )*. The Russian Ministry of Defense reported that the BOD and SMT arrived in Vladivostok on April 23 ( link 2 - there is not a word about the escort of Gazprom ships in the message),T raffic and V essel Finder - about the arrival there the same day earlier of both SSBU , and KMTUS - to Nakhodka. Thus, the last (third) stage of the transition was completed, which began, apparently, somewhere near Sri Lanka. The fact that the Panteleev campaign began on March 23 ( link 3 ) and lasted 31 days allows us to think so, and from Vladivostok to Colombo and back 2 x 4600 = 9200 miles, which can be overcome within the specified period at a speed of 12.4 knots, which is quite within the power of all ships and vessels of the detachment ("Chersky" - at the limit of its capabilities, which could be compensated by shifting the rendezvous point to the east or some acceleration of the BOD on the way there).
* Note. Unfortunately, from 08/01/2022, the Japanese Ministry of Defense stopped publishing its press releases, which, in particular, reflected the passage of Russian ships near the Japanese Islands, and limited access to previously published ones ( link 4 ). On the one hand, there is a rule of intelligence that the enemy should not know what she knows, on the other hand, this reflects the level of anti-Russian psychosis that has gripped the countries of the West.
The first stage of the transition started in three steps. According to the press service of the Russian Ministry of Defense, on January 24, the corvettes of the Baltic Fleet "Savvy" and "Stoikiy" left Baltiysk to carry out long-range missions ( reference 5 ), according to M arine Traffic, January 26 from St. Petersburg - "Ivan Sidorenko" and "Ostap Sheremeta", January 28 from Rotterdam - "Akademik Chersky". Taking into account the fact that from Baltiysk to Rotterdam there are 4 days of travel at 12 knots, the main purpose of the campaign (combat service) of the BF detachment was to escort the Chersky and the later approached Sidorenko and Sheremeta, combined with exercises led by the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy. Around January 1, the British observed corvettes in the English Channel - 4 days from the Strait of Gibraltar, to which, apparently, "Savvy" with "Resistant" and brought the 3rd Gazprom convoy (later it became known that the detachment passed 4700 miles ( link 6 , p., i.e. almost like to Gibraltar and back - 2 x 2250).
The most mysterious and difficult to explain was the second, the longest, stage of the transition - from Gibraltar to Sri Lanka (9450 miles or 33 days at 12 knots). We will proceed from the fact that the Navy, which escorted Gazprom's vessels in the first and third stages (which is beyond doubt), simply could not leave them to their fate on the most dangerous segment of the route (the pirate Gulf of Guinea, the Horn of Africa and the 5- th fleet of the United States, prone to state piracy**). However, with all diligence, the author could not find surface ships capable of such escort at that time. As far as is known, "Chersky" approached Gibraltar (it was in the Atlantic northwest of it) on February 4 ( link 7). The most logical thing would be to entrust the protection of the convoy to one of the ships of the OBK SF ("Kulakov" or "Kasatonov" ), which in those days was just approaching the Strait of Gibraltar (passed it on 07.02 - link 8 ). In this case, the assigned escort ship would have brought the Gazprom ships to Sri Lanka and arrived in Tartus, passing through the Suez Canal, after 46 days (03/25), but, according to the Ministry of Defense, on 15/21/02, all three ships of the Northern Fleet participated in exercises in the eastern part of the NPM ( reference 9 , reference 11 ).
** Note. On the reason for the non-alternative choice of a long route around Africa, which consists in the impossibility of passing the "Chersky" under the bridge over the Suezchannel without dismantling the upper part of the crane tower, already mentioned in the blog - link 12 .
Another option for escorting the convoy at the second stage could be the appointment of one of the warships of the permanent task force of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean Sea, which have sufficient seaworthiness, as an escort. The only suitable candidate was the Admiral Grigorovich frigate, since there was no PK pr. 22160 in the formation at that time, and the RTO pr. 21631 Orekhovo-Zuevo of the river-sea class was not suitable for ocean navigation. "Grigorovich" could reach Gibraltar a week before February 4 and return to Tartus approximately 53 days later (03.22), but he, according to irrefutable *** data from the military department, 15/21.in large-scale maneuvers in the eastern part of the NPM.
*** Note. In addition to text messages from the press service of the Ministry of Defense, there is a gorgeous video published on March 8 by the film company "Officers of the Russian Air Force and Navy", which shows all the ships of the OpS in the SPM, marching in full formation ( link 13 ).
As you can see, in the end, on the eve of the NMD, it was decided not to weaken the surface grouping of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean Sea by a single pennant, in order, if necessary, to prevent those who should not be there from entering the Black Sea. At the same time, in order to somehow indicate the participation of the Navy in the 2nd stage of the 3rd Gazprom convoy, you will have to choose one of two options:
1) Gazprom ships were escorted by a nuclear submarine (submarine cruiser) of the Northern Fleet for general purposes (fortunately, the number of running ACR / PLA ranges from six to eight) in order to emerge and show their teeth as a last resort;
2) the ships sailed without escort from the NK or submarines at all, but with a reinforced naval infantry anti-terror group of the naval infantry on each (reinforcement here means not so much the number of personnel as the composition of weapons, including anti-tank systems and MANPADS). The main conclusion that follows from the history of the 3rd Gazprom convoy is not original - it runs like a red thread through many entries published on the blog: in order to avoid difficulties of one kind or another associated with the use of the Navy in remote areas of the oceans (the presence, displaying the flag and
military force, protection of maritime economic activity, etc.), it is necessary to build more vigorously ships of the far sea and ocean zone. Let's start with frigates pr. 22350, the serial number of which will be doubled due to the involvement of NEA - the issue, in fact, has already been resolved ( link 14 ). ■
https://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/276376.html
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Thank for posting. I do like that last sentence! 
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George1 wrote:special operation with participation of russian navy ships
Quite interesting indeed, so the convoys protected by the VMF we had been speculating about are already happening... things are moving fast as of late
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09/16/2022
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Ships of the Northern Fleet returned to Severomorsk after a long voyage in the Mediterranean
"Vice-Admiral Kulakov"
The campaign lasted 197 days
MURMANSK, 15 September. /TASS/. The missile cruiser "Marshal Ustinov", the large anti-submarine ship "Vice-Admiral Kulakov" and the medium sea tanker "Vyazma", which were carrying out long-range missions in the Mediterranean Sea, returned on Thursday to the main base of the Northern Fleet - the city of Severomorsk, the press service of the fleet reported.
"The long-distance voyage of the Marshal Ustinov missile cruiser, the Vice-Admiral Kulakov large anti-submarine ship and the Vyazma medium sea tanker of the Northern Fleet began on January 23. In 197 sailing days, the ships covered more than 36,000 nautical miles, successfully completed combat missions in the areas of the Barents, Norwegian, North and Mediterranean Seas, as well as in the North-East Atlantic," the press service said.
It is noted that the ships took part in strategic deterrence activities in the Arctic and Atlantic, completed the tasks of assisting Russia's foreign policy actions during the naval presence and displaying the flag of the Russian Federation in the Mediterranean maritime zone. And on July 31, 2022, on the Day of the Russian Navy, the North Sea sailors took part in the naval parade of ships of the Navy grouping in the Mediterranean Sea on the outer roadstead of the Syrian port.
At the ceremony of welcoming the ships from long-distance navigation, the commander of the Northern Fleet, Hero of Russia, Admiral Alexander Moiseev, noted that "the missile cruiser Marshal Ustinov, the large anti-submarine ship Vice-Admiral Kulakov and the medium sea tanker Vyazma returned technically sound, with prepared and seasoned seafaring crews.
The Fleet Commander congratulated the Severomorsk sailors on the successful completion of all assigned tasks and the return home, distinguished sailors and civil servants were encouraged, the press service said.
https://vpk.name/news/631635_korabli_severnogo_flota_vernulis_v_severomorsk_iz_dalnego_pohoda_v_sredizemnom_more.html
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Ships of the Northern Fleet returned to Severomorsk after a long voyage in the Mediterranean
"Vice-Admiral Kulakov"
The campaign lasted 197 days
MURMANSK, 15 September. /TASS/. The missile cruiser "Marshal Ustinov", the large anti-submarine ship "Vice-Admiral Kulakov" and the medium sea tanker "Vyazma", which were carrying out long-range missions in the Mediterranean Sea, returned on Thursday to the main base of the Northern Fleet - the city of Severomorsk, the press service of the fleet reported.
"The long-distance voyage of the Marshal Ustinov missile cruiser, the Vice-Admiral Kulakov large anti-submarine ship and the Vyazma medium sea tanker of the Northern Fleet began on January 23. In 197 sailing days, the ships covered more than 36,000 nautical miles, successfully completed combat missions in the areas of the Barents, Norwegian, North and Mediterranean Seas, as well as in the North-East Atlantic," the press service said.
It is noted that the ships took part in strategic deterrence activities in the Arctic and Atlantic, completed the tasks of assisting Russia's foreign policy actions during the naval presence and displaying the flag of the Russian Federation in the Mediterranean maritime zone. And on July 31, 2022, on the Day of the Russian Navy, the North Sea sailors took part in the naval parade of ships of the Navy grouping in the Mediterranean Sea on the outer roadstead of the Syrian port.
At the ceremony of welcoming the ships from long-distance navigation, the commander of the Northern Fleet, Hero of Russia, Admiral Alexander Moiseev, noted that "the missile cruiser Marshal Ustinov, the large anti-submarine ship Vice-Admiral Kulakov and the medium sea tanker Vyazma returned technically sound, with prepared and seasoned seafaring crews.
The Fleet Commander congratulated the Severomorsk sailors on the successful completion of all assigned tasks and the return home, distinguished sailors and civil servants were encouraged, the press service said.
https://vpk.name/news/631635_korabli_severnogo_flota_vernulis_v_severomorsk_iz_dalnego_pohoda_v_sredizemnom_more.html
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Papa dislikes because he thinks these ships should be launching missiles at Kiev?
Edit: or Brussels...
Edit: or Brussels...
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GarryB wrote:Papa dislikes because he thinks these ships should be launching missiles at Kiev?
Edit: or Brussels...
To be fair it would have been more usefull for airdefence in the Black sea the last 6 months.
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walle83 wrote:GarryB wrote:Papa dislikes because he thinks these ships should be launching missiles at Kiev?
Edit: or Brussels...
To be fair it would have been more usefull for airdefence in the Black sea the last 6 months.
the udaloys have no long range SAMs. The grigoroviches do with the shtil, but theres only 2 in the black sea. Wouldn't matter if the russian navy would take its head out of its behind and use AWACS(already only 1 A-50U patrol) and use its Su-30M2 and Su-24 radars and jammers. The black sea is a pond. Aviation(if used competently, or even used at all) and OTH radars should cover it.
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limb wrote:walle83 wrote:GarryB wrote:Papa dislikes because he thinks these ships should be launching missiles at Kiev?
Edit: or Brussels...
To be fair it would have been more usefull for airdefence in the Black sea the last 6 months.
the udaloys have no long range SAMs. The grigoroviches do with the shtil, but theres only 2 in the black sea. Wouldn't matter if the russian navy would take its head out of its behind and use AWACS(already only 1 A-50U patrol) and use its Su-30M2 and Su-24 radars and jammers. The black sea is a pond. Aviation(if used competently, or even used at all) and OTH radars should cover it.
No but the Marshal Ustinov have, if they bother having it online...
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They need to accelerate the upgrade of the naval TOR system and make it much more modular and small so it can be fitted to a much wider range of ships.
Once every ship has such a system then they need to work on accelerating Shtil and Redut getting on to new ships and also on to older ships as upgrades, along with newer radar and sensor equipment.
I would say those 5km range anti drone lasers they are testing on the ground in the Ukraine conflict would be ideal for ships to deal with all sorts of problems.
Once every ship has such a system then they need to work on accelerating Shtil and Redut getting on to new ships and also on to older ships as upgrades, along with newer radar and sensor equipment.
I would say those 5km range anti drone lasers they are testing on the ground in the Ukraine conflict would be ideal for ships to deal with all sorts of problems.
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Warships of the main classes of the Russian Navy as of 01.10.2022
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Russian Nuclear Submarines Could Get Smaller in Future - Rubin Design Bureau, 10.10.2022.
Kiko Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:36 am
Russian Nuclear Submarines Could Get Smaller in Future - Rubin Design Bureau, 10.10.2022.
MOSCOW, (Sputnik) - The Russian nuclear powered submarine (NPS) of the future generation will be reduced in size, but this will not affect the number of weapons and drones that it will be equipped with, Andrey Baranov, Deputy Director General for Foreign Economic Activities and Military Technical Cooperation at the Rubin design bureau said.
At the 8th international military-technical forum ARMY-2022 this summer, Russia’s Central Design Bureau for Marine Engineering "Rubin" unveiled a concept model of a new nuclear submarine, Arktur, which could be supplied to the Russian Navy in the second half of the 21st century.
"From our perspective, we have the opportunity to slightly reduce the displacement of new subs. However, it is difficult to get away from large sizes, the versatility of the vessel depends on them. It seems to us that these large subs of the future should gradually become universal carrier platforms that can accommodate the maximum number of various technical equipment, including weapons," Baranov told Sputnik commenting on the prospects of NPS development in Russia.
Plans to Create New AIP System For Subs
Air-independent propulsion (AIP) increases a submarine’s stealth since it allows it to operate without access to atmospheric oxygen, removing the need for surfacing.
"We are creating an AIP system based on fuel elements with hydrogen production from diesel fuel. We get water from oxygen and hydrogen, and electricity is released. The most difficult question is: where to get hydrogen from? Carrying it with you is cumbersome, loading it is difficult and dangerous. Therefore, we propose to obtain it from diesel fuel," Baranov explained to Sputnik.
Varshavyanka Sub to Have Hydroacoustic Towed Antennas
"‘Rubin’ has performed a lot of studies showing possible directions for improving the project - from equipping [the subs] with extended towed hydroacoustic antennas to yet another modernization of the power plant," Baranov said, adding that there is a continued demand for Varshavyanka subs from the Russian Navy and foreign customers.
Project 636 Varshavyanka submarines are currently being delivered to the Russian Pacific Fleet, which should have six of such subs by 2024. Another six Project 636 submarines have already been delivered to the Black Sea Fleet.
In March, the CEO of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC), Alexei Rakhmanov, told Sputnik that the company can build two Project 636 Varshavyanka non-nuclear submarines each year.
The name Varshavyanka refers to the Warsaw pact. This class of diesel-electric attack submarines was initially developed for export to Warsaw Pact nations. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the final stages of the sub’s development were financed by China, which is the major export customer for this class.
https://sputniknews.com/20221010/russian-nuclear-submarines-could-get-smaller-in-future---rubin-design-bureau-1101663672.html
MOSCOW, (Sputnik) - The Russian nuclear powered submarine (NPS) of the future generation will be reduced in size, but this will not affect the number of weapons and drones that it will be equipped with, Andrey Baranov, Deputy Director General for Foreign Economic Activities and Military Technical Cooperation at the Rubin design bureau said.
At the 8th international military-technical forum ARMY-2022 this summer, Russia’s Central Design Bureau for Marine Engineering "Rubin" unveiled a concept model of a new nuclear submarine, Arktur, which could be supplied to the Russian Navy in the second half of the 21st century.
"From our perspective, we have the opportunity to slightly reduce the displacement of new subs. However, it is difficult to get away from large sizes, the versatility of the vessel depends on them. It seems to us that these large subs of the future should gradually become universal carrier platforms that can accommodate the maximum number of various technical equipment, including weapons," Baranov told Sputnik commenting on the prospects of NPS development in Russia.
Plans to Create New AIP System For Subs
Air-independent propulsion (AIP) increases a submarine’s stealth since it allows it to operate without access to atmospheric oxygen, removing the need for surfacing.
"We are creating an AIP system based on fuel elements with hydrogen production from diesel fuel. We get water from oxygen and hydrogen, and electricity is released. The most difficult question is: where to get hydrogen from? Carrying it with you is cumbersome, loading it is difficult and dangerous. Therefore, we propose to obtain it from diesel fuel," Baranov explained to Sputnik.
Varshavyanka Sub to Have Hydroacoustic Towed Antennas
"‘Rubin’ has performed a lot of studies showing possible directions for improving the project - from equipping [the subs] with extended towed hydroacoustic antennas to yet another modernization of the power plant," Baranov said, adding that there is a continued demand for Varshavyanka subs from the Russian Navy and foreign customers.
Project 636 Varshavyanka submarines are currently being delivered to the Russian Pacific Fleet, which should have six of such subs by 2024. Another six Project 636 submarines have already been delivered to the Black Sea Fleet.
In March, the CEO of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC), Alexei Rakhmanov, told Sputnik that the company can build two Project 636 Varshavyanka non-nuclear submarines each year.
The name Varshavyanka refers to the Warsaw pact. This class of diesel-electric attack submarines was initially developed for export to Warsaw Pact nations. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the final stages of the sub’s development were financed by China, which is the major export customer for this class.
https://sputniknews.com/20221010/russian-nuclear-submarines-could-get-smaller-in-future---rubin-design-bureau-1101663672.html
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Lira was an absolute master class with the terms of miniaturization&maximalization of firepower.
So considering this perspective, they have hell of experience.
A return to liquid metal cooled reactors would be helpful, only this time they should remember to make the assisting on-shore infrastructure not to make them running all time long
So considering this perspective, they have hell of experience.
A return to liquid metal cooled reactors would be helpful, only this time they should remember to make the assisting on-shore infrastructure not to make them running all time long
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Remains of "Admiral Lazarev"...
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The chances of Lazarev doing a Lazarus is pretty low, but brand new cruisers of the future will need names too...
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Don't cry.
This is a picture of how things changed in the last 20 years.
Back in 1990s, this ship would just float & rust, until sunk at the pier.
And a bunch of officers would be getting salaries for serving on paper only.
Now they are dismantling that in a regular manner, and keep floating brand-new pieces.
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10/18/2022
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The head of "Sevmash" said that the construction of nuclear submarines is carried out in three shifts
Mikhail Budnichenko.
Image source: Press Service of JSC PO Sevmash
According to Mikhail Budnichenko, General Director of the shipyard, the plant's capacity is comparable to that of the Soviet era.
MOSCOW, 17 October. /TASS/. The construction of 4th generation submarines in the interests of the Russian Navy is being carried out in three shifts, the press service of JSC PO Sevmash reported on Monday.
"A large program of the state defense order is being implemented - two lines of nuclear submarine missile carriers of the Yasen-M and Borey-A projects are being built. The enterprise operates in three shifts," the press service noted.
According to Mikhail Budnichenko, General Director of the shipyard, the plant's capacity is comparable to that of the Soviet era.
Recently, two nuclear submarines (NPS) "Novosibirsk" and "Prince Oleg", built at Sevmash, arrived at the Pacific Fleet. St. Andrew's flags on these ships were raised on December 21, 2021. For the first time in the last 50 years, the enterprise transferred two nuclear submarines to the Navy at once. In total, Sevmash built 137 nuclear submarines in the interests of the Navy.
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The head of "Sevmash" said that the construction of nuclear submarines is carried out in three shifts
Mikhail Budnichenko.
Image source: Press Service of JSC PO Sevmash
According to Mikhail Budnichenko, General Director of the shipyard, the plant's capacity is comparable to that of the Soviet era.
MOSCOW, 17 October. /TASS/. The construction of 4th generation submarines in the interests of the Russian Navy is being carried out in three shifts, the press service of JSC PO Sevmash reported on Monday.
"A large program of the state defense order is being implemented - two lines of nuclear submarine missile carriers of the Yasen-M and Borey-A projects are being built. The enterprise operates in three shifts," the press service noted.
According to Mikhail Budnichenko, General Director of the shipyard, the plant's capacity is comparable to that of the Soviet era.
Recently, two nuclear submarines (NPS) "Novosibirsk" and "Prince Oleg", built at Sevmash, arrived at the Pacific Fleet. St. Andrew's flags on these ships were raised on December 21, 2021. For the first time in the last 50 years, the enterprise transferred two nuclear submarines to the Navy at once. In total, Sevmash built 137 nuclear submarines in the interests of the Navy.
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Just for the records, both that boats are extreamly complicated.
We can't compare them with the Virginia, or any other nuclear sub production.
Making 2 pcs a year is an insane peak for a peace time.
We can't compare them with the Virginia, or any other nuclear sub production.
Making 2 pcs a year is an insane peak for a peace time.
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ALAMO wrote:Just for the records, both that boats are extreamly complicated.
We can't compare them with the Virginia, or any other nuclear sub production.
Making 2 pcs a year is an insane peak for a peace time.
I expect that "Generalissimus Suvorov" (955a) and K-571 "Krasnoyarsk" (885M) will be delivered to the Russian Navy by the end of this year.
Next in line are the Yasen-M submarine K-564 "Arkhangelsk" (we have an idiot on the forum with that name) and the Borei-A submarine "Emperor Alexander III". I expect the launch of these submarines to be in the next few months of this year or next.
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Who now commands the Black Sea
The change in naval leadership coincided with the expansion of the range of tasks to be solved
The facilities of the Black Sea Fleet (BSF) in Crimea are widely used to train reservists drafted into the army on partial mobilization announced on September 21 by Russian President Vladimir Putin. Classes with mobilized citizens are held at several training grounds and are considered a priority in the activities of the Black Sea residents, along with their performance of tasks during the special military operation (SVO) in Ukraine.
Earlier this month, the Opuk test site was inspected by a special commission of representatives of the fleet command. It also included the Deputy Military Prosecutor, Colonel of Justice Sergei Zhadnov, who personally received the mobilized citizens. The commission checked the organization of the life of the mobilized citizens, including the conditions of their living and food. The good work of the instructors of the range in organizing and conducting classes in medical, fire and tactical training was noted.
Among the military leaders who visited the Opuk training ground was the new commander of the Black Sea Fleet, Vice Admiral Viktor Sokolov. He got acquainted with the training of reservists and the conduct of combat coordination of units. This was reported to journalists by the information support department of the Southern Military District.
This is one of the first inspection trips of Viktor Nikolayevich in his new position. The solemn ceremony of handing over the standard of the commander of the Black Sea Fleet was held on October 7 under the leadership of the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Nikolai Evmenov. Traditionally, it was held at the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet, located in the hero city of Sevastopol. The ceremony was attended by deputy commanders of the fleet, heads of departments and services of the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet. Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of September 14 No. 638 was read out that Admirals Igor Osipov and Viktor Sokolov were relieved of their former posts. The first, respectively, from the duties of the commander of the Black Sea Fleet, and his successor - from the leadership of the Naval Academy named after Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union N.G. Kuznetsov.
The Commander-in-Chief of the Navy accepted the standard from the hands of Osipov and handed it over to Sokolov. The new commander of the Black Sea Fleet vowed to apply all his knowledge and experience to improve the combat readiness of the fleet. “I am proud of my appointment to the glorious oldest fleet of the Navy,” Viktor Sokolov said. “I undertake, I swear to apply all my knowledge, experience, strength to increase the combat readiness of the forces and troops of the Black Sea Fleet, to continue the glorious traditions and victories of our famous school of Black Sea sailors.”
Thus ended the intrigue with the choice of a new commander of the Black Sea Fleet. Recall that back in August, a number of media reported that instead of Osipov, Sokolov began to lead the fleet. At the same time, the information on the news feeds contained a number of inaccuracies and contradictions. For example, on August 17, the RIA Novosti Krym agency reported that the new commander was introduced to the members of the military council of the Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol (the event was of a closed nature) and that he was taking over from his predecessor.
This was soon followed by detailed articles in a number of periodicals, the authors of which tried to find out whether Osipov was removed or not. According to the tone and content of the relevant articles, there was some incomprehensible activity around the chair of the Black Sea Fleet commander. It was noted that Osipov had held this position since May 2019. If reports of a change in commander are confirmed, he will go down in history as the first Russian military leader to be removed from his post during the NVO.
Responding to publications in the media, the press service of the Black Sea Fleet urged "not to believe the gossip" about the change of commander. Despite such a recommendation, the journalists continued to raise questions (“but who then commands the fleet ?!”), not finding the answers they were looking for from the official authorities.
All sorts of rumors spread on the word of mouth.
Later it turned out that on August 10, 2022, the Russian Minister of Defense, by his order, appointed Sokolov as acting commander of the Black Sea Fleet. In this capacity, he was presented to the Military Council in Sevastopol. This should have been reported to the relevant press service, stopping all kinds of speculation in the media.
The situation was completely clarified only by the decree of the President of the Russian Federation, read out to those present at the above-mentioned event on October 7th. The new commander is 11 years older than his predecessor, has extensive experience in serving in the two most powerful and strongest strategic fleets of Russia, and has been awarded four orders. Over the past time, he has delved into the situation, got acquainted with the main formations, formations and units of the Black Sea Fleet, the leadership of Sevastopol and the Republic of Crimea.
Viktor Sokolov held an educational and methodological meeting with lieutenants - graduates of higher military educational institutions in 2022 from among those who arrived to serve in the Black Sea Fleet. This is a landmark event, because lieutenants are the future of the fleet, its combat readiness largely depends on their formation.
Congratulating the young officers gathered in the House of Fleet Officers on their appointment, Sokolov gave them a number of tips and recommendations based on his own rich service experience. According to the vice admiral, success in the military field is primarily won by hard work, self-training, constant expansion of theoretical knowledge, and responsible work with personnel. He assured the young lieutenants that, subject to the quality performance of official duties, care for the entrusted personnel and management, service success would not be long in coming. And at the same time he warned that young officers in the navy would not find an easy life.
“You have a difficult but interesting service ahead of you. Nothing will be remembered if it is smooth, on the floor, as they say in the Navy. Friends, commanders, subordinates, long trips, firing and exercises are remembered,” the Vice Admiral noted. Then Sokolov told the lieutenants about the glorious pages in the history of the Black Sea Fleet. He stressed that Russian sailors won their main victories in the Black and Mediterranean Seas.
Currently, the fleet continues to develop actively. In accordance with the plan to equip formations and units of the Russian Navy, this year the Black Sea will receive several dozen new and modernized weapons and military equipment. Among them are more than 10 ships and support vessels, new aircraft and helicopters, as well as a number of other types of weapons, military and special equipment.
Speaking about the prospects for the development and importance of the Black Sea Fleet for ensuring the stability and security of the southern borders of our country, the commander of the fleet drew the attention of young officers to the current military-political situation in the operational zone of the Black Sea Fleet. Currently, it is due to the conduct of a special operation.
“The armed conflict between the Russian Federation and Ukraine is being waged with the broad involvement of the United States and the countries of the NATO bloc, which take an indirect part in hostilities, provide large-scale military-technical, economic and political assistance, military-political support to the Kyiv regime,” Sokolov said.
The fighting began on February 24 of this year. From the first day, the Black Sea Fleet has been taking an active part in the NWO. He conducts reconnaissance and is engaged in ensuring a favorable operational regime for our troops, defeating critical facilities, repelling enemy air attack means - air and missile strikes, unmanned aircraft raids.
The Chernomorians search for and prevent breakthroughs by enemy sabotage and reconnaissance groups (DRGs), provide defense of the Kerch transport crossing, defeat coastal-based enemy forces, and take measures to ensure the security of the Crimean peninsula. This whole complex of tasks is carried out by Black Sea Fleet servicemen on a daily basis.
According to the commander, during the period of participation in the NMD, ships, submarines and coastal missile systems of the Black Sea Fleet struck more than 150 critically important objects of the enemy's military infrastructure. More than 400 launches of cruise missiles were carried out, including those included in the Kalibr complex. With high-precision long-range weapons, the fleet inflicted great damage on enemy manpower, weapons and military equipment. Airfield networks, command posts, and armaments factories have been put out of action. The naval aviation of the Black Sea Fleet carried out over 4,000 sorties, during which the pilots conducted 31 air battles, carried out air strikes and solved other tasks. In total, 21 ships and boats, 6 planes and helicopters, 47 unmanned aerial vehicles were destroyed by the fleet during the conduct of hostilities, 13 ships and vessels were captured.
The forces of the Novorossiysk naval base cleared the port of Mariupol and the coastal strip near the city. At the same time, 7 anchor and 78 bottom mines were destroyed, 18 berths and 20 ships in the port were surveyed. Only in the period from May 11 to July 30, rescuers of the Black Sea Fleet raised 13 sunken objects with a total displacement of almost 7200 tons. 1800 hours of diving work were carried out under water.
To date, all these indicators have grown, some of them significantly, and continue to grow every day.
“As you can see, the Black Sea Fleet, in the course of participating in a special military operation, is solving the assigned tasks. There will be enough interesting work for all graduate specialists,” Viktor Sokolov stressed. And he noticed that all the experience gained by the military during the SVO will be useful to young officers in their future service. Therefore, it must be carefully studied under the guidance of commanders and chiefs.
The deputy commanders of the fleet, heads of departments and services of the fleet, as well as the military prosecutor of the Black Sea Fleet, who took part in the gathering, told the young officers about various aspects of military service in the fleet during their speeches. Thus, a number of practical financial and economic issues were considered, elements of the organization of military-political work (MCA) with personnel, including the main directions of the CRM efforts in the course of the SVO, and the procedure for providing property allowances was brought up.
Particular attention was paid to the issues of crime prevention and work to ensure law and order. Based on the results of the work carried out in the first months, the heads of military command and control bodies, fleet specialists, commanders of formations, formations and units praised a number of young officers and their mentors from the best side. This was facilitated by the high organizational work of direct commanders and specialist mentors assigned to the arriving graduate officers to assist in their development. By order of the commander of the fleet, 10 young officers were awarded certificates for the high level of special training, personal discipline and the successes achieved, shown upon taking office.
“We were looking forward to all of you, now you have become full members of our large team. From this year you are officers of the Red Banner Black Sea Fleet, Black Sea people. Carry the title of a Black Sea sailor with dignity through life, success to you in your service, ”the fleet commander admonished the participants of the gathering.
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The change in naval leadership coincided with the expansion of the range of tasks to be solved
The facilities of the Black Sea Fleet (BSF) in Crimea are widely used to train reservists drafted into the army on partial mobilization announced on September 21 by Russian President Vladimir Putin. Classes with mobilized citizens are held at several training grounds and are considered a priority in the activities of the Black Sea residents, along with their performance of tasks during the special military operation (SVO) in Ukraine.
Earlier this month, the Opuk test site was inspected by a special commission of representatives of the fleet command. It also included the Deputy Military Prosecutor, Colonel of Justice Sergei Zhadnov, who personally received the mobilized citizens. The commission checked the organization of the life of the mobilized citizens, including the conditions of their living and food. The good work of the instructors of the range in organizing and conducting classes in medical, fire and tactical training was noted.
Among the military leaders who visited the Opuk training ground was the new commander of the Black Sea Fleet, Vice Admiral Viktor Sokolov. He got acquainted with the training of reservists and the conduct of combat coordination of units. This was reported to journalists by the information support department of the Southern Military District.
This is one of the first inspection trips of Viktor Nikolayevich in his new position. The solemn ceremony of handing over the standard of the commander of the Black Sea Fleet was held on October 7 under the leadership of the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Nikolai Evmenov. Traditionally, it was held at the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet, located in the hero city of Sevastopol. The ceremony was attended by deputy commanders of the fleet, heads of departments and services of the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet. Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of September 14 No. 638 was read out that Admirals Igor Osipov and Viktor Sokolov were relieved of their former posts. The first, respectively, from the duties of the commander of the Black Sea Fleet, and his successor - from the leadership of the Naval Academy named after Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union N.G. Kuznetsov.
The Commander-in-Chief of the Navy accepted the standard from the hands of Osipov and handed it over to Sokolov. The new commander of the Black Sea Fleet vowed to apply all his knowledge and experience to improve the combat readiness of the fleet. “I am proud of my appointment to the glorious oldest fleet of the Navy,” Viktor Sokolov said. “I undertake, I swear to apply all my knowledge, experience, strength to increase the combat readiness of the forces and troops of the Black Sea Fleet, to continue the glorious traditions and victories of our famous school of Black Sea sailors.”
Thus ended the intrigue with the choice of a new commander of the Black Sea Fleet. Recall that back in August, a number of media reported that instead of Osipov, Sokolov began to lead the fleet. At the same time, the information on the news feeds contained a number of inaccuracies and contradictions. For example, on August 17, the RIA Novosti Krym agency reported that the new commander was introduced to the members of the military council of the Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol (the event was of a closed nature) and that he was taking over from his predecessor.
This was soon followed by detailed articles in a number of periodicals, the authors of which tried to find out whether Osipov was removed or not. According to the tone and content of the relevant articles, there was some incomprehensible activity around the chair of the Black Sea Fleet commander. It was noted that Osipov had held this position since May 2019. If reports of a change in commander are confirmed, he will go down in history as the first Russian military leader to be removed from his post during the NVO.
Responding to publications in the media, the press service of the Black Sea Fleet urged "not to believe the gossip" about the change of commander. Despite such a recommendation, the journalists continued to raise questions (“but who then commands the fleet ?!”), not finding the answers they were looking for from the official authorities.
All sorts of rumors spread on the word of mouth.
Later it turned out that on August 10, 2022, the Russian Minister of Defense, by his order, appointed Sokolov as acting commander of the Black Sea Fleet. In this capacity, he was presented to the Military Council in Sevastopol. This should have been reported to the relevant press service, stopping all kinds of speculation in the media.
The situation was completely clarified only by the decree of the President of the Russian Federation, read out to those present at the above-mentioned event on October 7th. The new commander is 11 years older than his predecessor, has extensive experience in serving in the two most powerful and strongest strategic fleets of Russia, and has been awarded four orders. Over the past time, he has delved into the situation, got acquainted with the main formations, formations and units of the Black Sea Fleet, the leadership of Sevastopol and the Republic of Crimea.
Viktor Sokolov held an educational and methodological meeting with lieutenants - graduates of higher military educational institutions in 2022 from among those who arrived to serve in the Black Sea Fleet. This is a landmark event, because lieutenants are the future of the fleet, its combat readiness largely depends on their formation.
Congratulating the young officers gathered in the House of Fleet Officers on their appointment, Sokolov gave them a number of tips and recommendations based on his own rich service experience. According to the vice admiral, success in the military field is primarily won by hard work, self-training, constant expansion of theoretical knowledge, and responsible work with personnel. He assured the young lieutenants that, subject to the quality performance of official duties, care for the entrusted personnel and management, service success would not be long in coming. And at the same time he warned that young officers in the navy would not find an easy life.
“You have a difficult but interesting service ahead of you. Nothing will be remembered if it is smooth, on the floor, as they say in the Navy. Friends, commanders, subordinates, long trips, firing and exercises are remembered,” the Vice Admiral noted. Then Sokolov told the lieutenants about the glorious pages in the history of the Black Sea Fleet. He stressed that Russian sailors won their main victories in the Black and Mediterranean Seas.
Currently, the fleet continues to develop actively. In accordance with the plan to equip formations and units of the Russian Navy, this year the Black Sea will receive several dozen new and modernized weapons and military equipment. Among them are more than 10 ships and support vessels, new aircraft and helicopters, as well as a number of other types of weapons, military and special equipment.
Speaking about the prospects for the development and importance of the Black Sea Fleet for ensuring the stability and security of the southern borders of our country, the commander of the fleet drew the attention of young officers to the current military-political situation in the operational zone of the Black Sea Fleet. Currently, it is due to the conduct of a special operation.
“The armed conflict between the Russian Federation and Ukraine is being waged with the broad involvement of the United States and the countries of the NATO bloc, which take an indirect part in hostilities, provide large-scale military-technical, economic and political assistance, military-political support to the Kyiv regime,” Sokolov said.
The fighting began on February 24 of this year. From the first day, the Black Sea Fleet has been taking an active part in the NWO. He conducts reconnaissance and is engaged in ensuring a favorable operational regime for our troops, defeating critical facilities, repelling enemy air attack means - air and missile strikes, unmanned aircraft raids.
The Chernomorians search for and prevent breakthroughs by enemy sabotage and reconnaissance groups (DRGs), provide defense of the Kerch transport crossing, defeat coastal-based enemy forces, and take measures to ensure the security of the Crimean peninsula. This whole complex of tasks is carried out by Black Sea Fleet servicemen on a daily basis.
According to the commander, during the period of participation in the NMD, ships, submarines and coastal missile systems of the Black Sea Fleet struck more than 150 critically important objects of the enemy's military infrastructure. More than 400 launches of cruise missiles were carried out, including those included in the Kalibr complex. With high-precision long-range weapons, the fleet inflicted great damage on enemy manpower, weapons and military equipment. Airfield networks, command posts, and armaments factories have been put out of action. The naval aviation of the Black Sea Fleet carried out over 4,000 sorties, during which the pilots conducted 31 air battles, carried out air strikes and solved other tasks. In total, 21 ships and boats, 6 planes and helicopters, 47 unmanned aerial vehicles were destroyed by the fleet during the conduct of hostilities, 13 ships and vessels were captured.
The forces of the Novorossiysk naval base cleared the port of Mariupol and the coastal strip near the city. At the same time, 7 anchor and 78 bottom mines were destroyed, 18 berths and 20 ships in the port were surveyed. Only in the period from May 11 to July 30, rescuers of the Black Sea Fleet raised 13 sunken objects with a total displacement of almost 7200 tons. 1800 hours of diving work were carried out under water.
To date, all these indicators have grown, some of them significantly, and continue to grow every day.
“As you can see, the Black Sea Fleet, in the course of participating in a special military operation, is solving the assigned tasks. There will be enough interesting work for all graduate specialists,” Viktor Sokolov stressed. And he noticed that all the experience gained by the military during the SVO will be useful to young officers in their future service. Therefore, it must be carefully studied under the guidance of commanders and chiefs.
The deputy commanders of the fleet, heads of departments and services of the fleet, as well as the military prosecutor of the Black Sea Fleet, who took part in the gathering, told the young officers about various aspects of military service in the fleet during their speeches. Thus, a number of practical financial and economic issues were considered, elements of the organization of military-political work (MCA) with personnel, including the main directions of the CRM efforts in the course of the SVO, and the procedure for providing property allowances was brought up.
Particular attention was paid to the issues of crime prevention and work to ensure law and order. Based on the results of the work carried out in the first months, the heads of military command and control bodies, fleet specialists, commanders of formations, formations and units praised a number of young officers and their mentors from the best side. This was facilitated by the high organizational work of direct commanders and specialist mentors assigned to the arriving graduate officers to assist in their development. By order of the commander of the fleet, 10 young officers were awarded certificates for the high level of special training, personal discipline and the successes achieved, shown upon taking office.
“We were looking forward to all of you, now you have become full members of our large team. From this year you are officers of the Red Banner Black Sea Fleet, Black Sea people. Carry the title of a Black Sea sailor with dignity through life, success to you in your service, ”the fleet commander admonished the participants of the gathering.
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