Russian Navy: Status and News #6

Podlodka77 wrote:
Is a country with a little less than 150 million inhabitants able to build a navy or not. It seems not.

You should clarify that you are talking about a fleet that would satisfy the occasional screaming little drama queen on the internet.

While Russia definitely has the ability to build a navy - taking into account its own needs, abilities and economic opportunities. If you really know how to do it right, I am ready to find the contacts of the United Shipbuilding Corporation for you, and also give a link to the reception of the President of the Russian Federation so that you can send your proposals drawn up in the program for the development of the Russian fleet. By the way, it's strange that you haven't done it yourself yet, if you're so worried about ruNAVY.

After all, if you are only busy with extremal critical accusations, without doing anything to correct the situation, then how do we even understand that your opinion has at least some value? I prefer a constructive approach. I suggest the same to you.

Scorpius wrote:
You should clarify that you are talking about a fleet that would satisfy the occasional screaming little drama queen on the internet.

It still won't impress, if compared to the Klingons Vth Imperial Star Fleet, so the drama can be endless.

To Scorpius....

Let's go again....
Russia has only 10 operational SSN/SSGN submarines. Russia has not yet completed the modernization of any 971M and 949AM submarines.
The next in the line of project 885M submarines to be launched is K-564 "Arkhangelsk", which has been under construction for 9 years and 3 months and has not yet been launched.
So the situation is desperate and the country that has built the most nuclear submarines has barely delivered 3 SSGN submarines to its fleet in the last 20 years.
And who can refute what I wrote ?

The construction of 2 frigates of project 22350, the construction of which was signed with Severnaya Werf 3 years ago, has not been started. This year, the contract for another 6 project 22350 frigates was not signed either.
Russia should not have put itself in a situation where it did not work on the design of gas turbines from 1991 to 2014. Then 2014 and "Zorya-Mashproekt" happened.
If nothing else, they could at least have turbines ready for production by 2014.
The number of project 20380/20385 corvettes is also insufficient.
I didn't buy the story about "evil little ships that work miracles" because that's exactly what was written after the operation of the project 21631 corvette in Syria.
It is cheaper to produce 4 MZKT trucks with two 9M729 missiles each from the Iskander-K system and one Pantsir-S1 than to waste money unnecessarily in 21631, 22800, or this 23350 project. And there is also the "dove of peace", i.e. project 22160.

French Navy is 180 ships and 37k personel.
UK Navy is 70 ships and 32k personnel.
Italian Navy is around 100 pcs of ship worth a name, and 30k personnel.
Three combined, have military allocations more than double that of the Russian, represent 3x the economy, and have some 200+ mln inhabitants.
WMF is 370 ships and 160k personnel.
Two first consider themselves a naval powers, with a waste of colonial heritage and condominiums scattered along the entire globe.
The last is a landmass civilization, binding by its borders three centers of power, two of them called continents.
Have a cold one on me, and chill  

Nobody normal drinks that beer in Serbia, Alamo...
It's disgusting...
Alamo, it's not the personnel that matters, it's the combat units that matter.
3 SSGN submarines for 20+ years and almost non-existent construction of surface warships with a displacement of barely 5000 tons.
Russian navy is useless..I'm sorry but that's how it is.

Podlodka77 wrote:Nobody normal drinks that beer in Serbia, Alamo...  
It's disgusting...

My bad

Have a really good one, straight from my fridge!

The fraction Bigger Is Better is strong in force here
And Pod is a proud member of a clan!
I guess we all already figured the thing out, at some point

Podlodka77
When it comes to nuclear submarines, you have to include SSBNs, because they consume a lot of resources.
So add 7 new SSBNs to this 4 Yasen and Belgorod built from scratch. That's 11 new nuclear submarines in the last 20 years.
Only the USA built more Virginias of one type.Further SSBNs and SSNs are under construction, including Poseidon carriers.

To Rodion...

No problemo, but Russia needs universal ships such as corvettes 20385 and frigates 22350. So the following; UKSK, air defense system 9K96, as well as Paket-NK, plus one helicopter.
Although, I primarily always think of the Northern Fleet and the PF, while this conflict has shown that the Black Sea is really an ordinary pond (and the biggest enemy of BSF) and that its closedness is the biggest problem for all the ships and submarines that are in it.
I think the same about the Baltic Fleet. It is no wonder that the Soviet Navy concentrated the ships of the first rank mostly and all nuclear submarines in the NF and PF for this very reason.
In a larger conflict, I'm sure that the Soviet military doctrine calculated that the Baltic and Black Sea fleets would be severely damaged/destroyed first, so the priority was always the NF and then the PF.
And that's why I always write and criticize the slow construction of those two projects (885M, 22350) in the first place.

To ARROW...

I know that, but is it necessary to completely melt the fleet of SSN/SSGN submarines (at the expense of building 885M) to have 12 or 14 955/955A submarines ?
They put hundreds of RS-24 and RT-2PM2 "Topol-M" missiles on combat duty in the last 20 years, so I don't see why there is such a rush with 955A submarines.
It is almost certain that "Ohio" as a converted SSGN submarine will serve longer than the projected 42 years.
I don't understand why there is such a rush to decommission the 667BDRM "Delfin". It is almost certain that the Russians will already have 7 submarines of project 955/955A operational in December 2023.

I know that, but is it necessary to completely melt the fleet of SSN/SSGN submarines (at the expense of building 885M) to have 12 or 14 955/955A submarines ? wrote:

Nuclear potential is a priority for Russia. They want to gain an advantage over others in this matter. Apparently, they also pay a lot of attention to the maritime triad. Therefore, the 955A probably has a higher priority than the 855M.
Thanks to hypersonic weapons, Russia can hit many enemy ships at a distance of over 2,000 km. There will be terrestrial Tsirkon, there is Kinzhal. Missiles with even greater range for strategic aviation are being developed. They didn't have something like this even in the times of the USSR. Perhaps that's why they don't invest so much in a typical navy.

I think that the current 5 units of 667BDRM will be in service until at least the 2030s. They will slowly be phased out in the 2030s.

K-554 "Imperator Alexander III" (4th 955A) will almost certainly be put into service this year. If we were to follow the analogy with previous years, then at the end of the year, K-XXX "Knyaz Pozharskiy" (5th 955A) could also be launched.
It is almost certain that Russia will have 10 955/955A submarines before 2030, which means that the number of 667BDRM will be drastically reduced in two to three years.
I think that the K-117 "Bryansk" which is being overhauled and which is probably one of the last 667BDRM submarines that will be overhauled, could remain in service the longest.

The Russian shipbuilding industry efficiently builds only SSBN submarines.
The only other example is the make-up Soviet 877 renamed 636.3. It's all about the money and the 955A subs are probably the ONLY ones getting full funding.

For the first time, Russia is in a situation where it has only 10 operational SSN/SSGN and even 11 operational SSBN (5 667BDRM and 6 955/955A).
Currently only 3 885/885M, 4 X 949A and 3 X 971 are operational. Yes, some 971 and 949A will return to service after overhaul and modernization, but then again some of the active 949A and 971 will either be withdrawn from service or go for overhaul.

If "Hey, Russia has the newest fleet of SSBN submarines" is impressive to you, it's not to me.
The US has a fleet of brand new P-8s while the Russians fly 50+ year old Il-38s as the last one was produced in 1972, along with all the other classes of ships and submarines they build far faster than Russia.
With what will you defend those SSBNs since the 949A submarines are not really suitable for that purpose,  while Russia has less active submarines of project 885 and 971 than man's fingers on both hands.. .
No aircraft carriers under construction, no destroyers, barely 2 landing ships being built by Yantar.
And that would not be so terrible if the construction of frigates and corvettes was at the desired level, but that is not the case either. It's one thing that Russia will lay the keel for a certain ship and submarine, since the Russians have a DISASTEROUS that most important day - the day of delivery into active service.

The fact is that the Russian Navy has hit rock bottom.

Kilo are very good but lack nuclear endurence for long range patroling.

The Kilos are good for defensive operations near Russia, they are quieter than SSNs and cheaper too, plus the Lada class that replaces them is lighter with a smaller crew and better armament.

The concept of arsenal vessels makes sense... if you want every sub to carry hundreds of missiles they are not going to be very good for most roles.

Having a few older subs converted to the role of carrying large numbers of land attack cruise missiles that can be sent to a region where a conflict might occur makes a lot of sense. Something like a Delta IV sub which is still quite modern but has large volume of space that could be used for different things makes sense in that specific role.

I don't think commercial cargo ships should be used, though a special military cargo vessel that can transfer weapons and ammo and equipment while having the top most crates carrying ready to launch missiles would make some sense.

The US has a fleet of brand new P-8s while the Russians fly 50+ year old Il-38s as the last one was produced in 1972, along with all the other classes of ships and submarines they build far faster than Russia.

Any Russian Corvette with Redut could take out western MPAs over 100km away using 9M96 missiles very easily.

It does not matter when an aircraft was built, it matters if it has been upgraded in the last 30 years, and they have.

Now they are mass producing Tu-214s for the civilian airliner market it makes obvious sense to use surplus Tu-214s to replace the Ilyusions they are currently using like the Il-20/22/38, as well as the Tu-154M and Yak-30s etc etc.

They could also make AWACS versions of the Tu-214 and inflight refuelling tankers as well... and I think the Tu-330 transport plane based on the Tu-214 now makes sense too.

With what will you defend those SSBNs since the 949A submarines are not really suitable for that purpose, while Russia has less active submarines of project 885 and 971 than man's fingers on both hands.. .

Honestly with scramjet technology I could see modern SLBMs being replaced by 8,000km ranged cruise missiles that fly at very high altitude at mach 8 to mach 12 or so... they would be a fraction of the weight of an SLBM and not very easy to intercept either.

No aircraft carriers under construction, no destroyers, barely 2 landing ships being built by Yantar.

Russia isn't rolling in cash like China is... Russia really cannot afford to make Aircraft Carriers that are duds right now... or ever... they have to get this right, so they will be wanting to get the Kuznetsov back into the water and some more operational experience under their belts, but also a chance to test the upgrades and changes they have made to make sure they solve the problems they had and improve performance and then they can decide what they need in their new carriers.

Seems like their new compact nuclear reactors for use on ships is a success and has enormous potential... that would be very good as their destroyers and cruisers should have nuclear power plants too.

And that would not be so terrible if the construction of frigates and corvettes was at the desired level, but that is not the case either. It's one thing that Russia will lay the keel for a certain ship and submarine, since the Russians have a DISASTEROUS that most important day - the day of delivery into active service.

They have produced a brand new frigate and have redesigned that frigate based on their experience... lets wait till they get that upgraded frigate into the water and properly tested before they decide which frigates to serial produce in significant numbers.

Taking some time while engine production is improved and serialised is something they didn't get much choice in, but they can use this time to upgrade their shipyards to the point where they have decided what they want and how many they can increase production to rather higher levels.

You don't just decide one day to lay down a corvette or frigate, it takes detailed planning over years to make sure you can get all the bits you need and when you need them.

There was a time when guns were the problem.... they have 100mm guns the weight of 76.2mm guns and 130mm guns the weight of the old 100mm guns... the improvements are astounding and they have AESA radar arrays all over the place. These things don't just fall from the sky, there is a lot of work in the background that makes all this happen.

The fact is that the Russian Navy has hit rock bottom.

Bullshit. They have done the ground work and are waiting for testing and trials to be completed before they start increasing production and expanding... that is not rock bottom.

Garry, no matter what you write, you cannot refute the bad state of the VMF.
For God's sake, no matter how disastrous the Yeltsin era was, Russia certainly had more operational SSN/SSGN submarines at the end of 1999 than it has now.
Garry, even in 1999 Russia (desperate and miserable) had more SSN/SSGN submarines than now.
They don't build aircraft carriers ? I'm not disappointed about that.
They don't build destroyers ? OK, we'll forgive that too.
Frigates ? Who is to blame for Russia for allowing itself to be left without gas turbines in 2014, except Russia itself?
Corvette project 20380/20385 does not have enough number under construction either. Currently a total of 18 are either built or in the process of being built, which is not enough if each fleet gets 6. We already know that the plan is for Kamchatka to have 6 project 20385 and 6 project 20380 which will remain in Vladivostok. So we need more..
The entire shipbuilding was reduced to 955A submarines and to the old Soviet 877 project upgraded to 636.3. I'm sorry, I'm convinced that the Russians must also go with AIP propulsion if the whole world has already gone in that direction.

Come on, explain to us why even in December 2023, neither the K-328 "Leopard" (the first 971M) nor the K-132 "Irkutsk", which is the first submarine improved to the 949AM standard, are still NOT operational.
Years pass and nothing gets better, except for the story "it will definitely get better".
It won't get better Garry and the Russian VMF will definitely be even smaller than it is now. The reason is incompetence, indifference, the absence of a serious plan and undoubtedly corruption. For the disastrous results of the modernization and construction of warships, some heads should fly off their shoulders.

With what will you defend those SSBNs since the 949A submarines are not really suitable for that purpose, while Russia has less active submarines of project 885 and 971 than man's fingers on both hands.. .

With kilo subs, corvettes and airforce.

Russian SSBN won't leave russian waters in case of a big conflict. They are protected by the sea against any airborne threat. Poseidon can't fly safely in such areas where there are mig-31. And enemy subs would be facing static sensors, diesel kilo subs, aviation and would be in shallow water where nuk subs are very hard to handle.

The Borey class are also much quieter than the previous generation SSBNs. In Arctic seas they will be very difficult to track. The Americans even had a problem with track the 667BDRM with two screws, shafts and reactors.

Excellent ISOS, then it was cheaper to build additional RS-24 and place them in the north of Russia than to build SSBN, if they will not leave Russian territorial waters. Why build Borei when they are less protected than clay pigeons. Sorry man, but VMF is useless.

Not really. Ground based launchers are vulnerable to cruise missiles.

A submarine in the waters of russia is the safest way to have a second strike capability.

The further that sub goes from russia, the closer it goes to the enemy and the less defences it has.

Garry, no matter what you write, you cannot refute the bad state of the VMF.

Take out the word bad and replace it with promising and the word Garry and replace it with your name and that sentence is correct.

Russia has a future with limited or no cooperation or contact with most of the western world... By their choice... this means access to the worlds markets will not happen across western territory or via western airspace, which means through Asia and by sea... that has pretty obvious implications for the future of the Russian Navy... they are no longer going to be last in line, but I would also hope they will work harder at coordinating their stuff where practical with the Army and the Air Force, like guns and missiles and radar and other equipment so technology can be shared and used more widely. Obviously the Army does not need torpedoes, and the Navy does not need ditch digging machines to dig trenches, but there are lots of areas of overlap where money could be better spent more efficiently.

Russia certainly had more operational SSN/SSGN submarines at the end of 1999 than it has now.

And during that period the US had more F-15s than they will ever have F-22s... what is your point?

Russia isn't on its own any more, and you can bet if the west starts attacking Russia the number of SSNs it has wont be of massive importance.

Garry, even in 1999 Russia (desperate and miserable) had more SSN/SSGN submarines than now.

Yes, of course, in 1999 Russia was pumping out way more SSNs and SSGNs than they are now... things are bad.

Or you are not very bright... the SSNs and SSGNs they had had been built years ago and were Soviet Legacy subs they barely had any use for at all, let alone fully arming and manning them.

The technology on board was not state of the art either because computing power improved quite a bit from the 1980s to the late 1990s but electronics on Russian weapon systems didn't really start changing till after that... and mostly kit that was bought from the west.

Frigates ? Who is to blame for Russia for allowing itself to be left without gas turbines in 2014, except Russia itself?

Gas turbine propulsion systems take a very long time to develop and a longer time still to get working properly, no country on the planet could have done better than Russia and Russia was under western sanctions at the time.

If they had cut Ukraine off earlier then Maidan would have happened faster and perhaps Russia would not have been so ready.

What is important now is that they get to bomb the shit out of the factories that refused to deliver gas turbines they paid for and didn't sell to anyone else.

There was a short gap, but soon they will be able to restart serial production, and to be honest ideally they will have used this break to upgrade their shipyards for serial production and also more time to allow their new upgraded frigate to get into the water so they can assess whether they fixed the problems or created new problems with their solutions.

Corvette project 20380/20385 does not have enough number under construction either.

Weren't they waiting for Russian engines too... to replace the German and then the Chinese copies of German engines they used to use.

I hope when they put them into serial production when everything is ready that they send a letter to the German company that makes those engines and just say we are about to start making 32 corvettes in series so two engines each, we would have needed you to make 64 engines for us, but your government doesn't care about you so we are making them ourselves.

Currently a total of 18 are either built or in the process of being built, which is not enough if each fleet gets 6. We already know that the plan is for Kamchatka to have 6 project 20385 and 6 project 20380 which will remain in Vladivostok. So we need more..

Well obviously... there is no point making 60 boats if there are no engines for them and they sit at port rusting till the engine supply is sorted out.

I'm sorry, I'm convinced that the Russians must also go with AIP propulsion if the whole world has already gone in that direction.

The only countries that have gone for AIP propulsion are countries that don't have nuclear powered subs. The west has gone homo and non binary... should the Russian Navy.... well lets not go there.

They went for AIP because they want nuclear power performance in terms of staying submerged at a high percentage of the price of an SSN, but without the nuclear symbol because nuclear is bad.

Come on, explain to us why even in December 2023, neither the K-328 "Leopard" (the first 971M) nor the K-132 "Irkutsk", which is the first submarine improved to the 949AM standard, are still NOT operational.

Look at a calendar... December 2023 is next month, why are you asking why something has not happened in the future yet?

Maybe they don't want to make it operational in winter and think a warmer time later next year might be better?

Maybe they have shifted funds to conventional land attack missiles of the anti ship and cruise missile type to kill Nazis in the Ukraine is better value for money.

Years pass and nothing gets better, except for the story "it will definitely get better".

Nothing gets better? When your head is up your own arse of course all you see is shit. Continue with the sky is falling if that makes you feel better.

It won't get better Garry and the Russian VMF will definitely be even smaller than it is now. The reason is incompetence, indifference, the absence of a serious plan and undoubtedly corruption. For the disastrous results of the modernization and construction of warships, some heads should fly off their shoulders.

Yes, of course... stalin at its best... I thought you hated the commies but you sure sound like one when you don't get your way. Everyone fired... because obviously anyone else can solve their problems and improve the situation...

Poseidon can't fly safely in such areas where there are mig-31.

Poseidon doesn't fly but agree with the rest.

The MiG-31K is a part of the navy.... a capability they have never had before. Something the Americans would call a game changer.

Excellent ISOS, then it was cheaper to build additional RS-24 and place them in the north of Russia than to build SSBN, if they will not leave Russian territorial waters. Why build Borei when they are less protected than clay pigeons. Sorry man, but VMF is useless.

Russian waters are enormous and plenty of space to hide a missile launcher so it cannot be hit before it launches its missiles.

It is funny that Pod is more concerned about winning WWIII than he is in the Russian Navy supporting commerce and trade with the rest of the world that will generate the money needed to support a decent sized navy in the first place.

He seems more upset at the progress made by China compared with Russia than with what Russia might actually need moving forward for its own interests.

How about the US Navy... it built 3 Zumwalt class destroyers... it was going to build 100 of them, it made 17 LCS frigates, it was going to make 52 of them... tens of billions of dollars spent on both programmes and both cancelled, they have already scrapped one LCS ship... scrapped because they are bloody useless... in the case of the LCS there is not enough crew to maintain the vessel...

The US Navy is massive and based all around the world and takes a significant fraction of the military budget... with the costs of the wars they have been fighting... Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine and now Israel, do you think their military has been properly funded all these years or that short cuts have been taken to spread the money around a bit...

As times get tough what is going to happen to most budgets in the US?

I see a pretty dark future for them, but you just keep whining about not enough SSNs and SSGNs.

Poseidon doesn't fly but agree with the rest.

he meant the P-8 Poseidon based on B-737 airframe (btw, it's inappropriate to give the name of a Greek god to an ASW plane IMO) which is replacing venerable P-3s.

I'm not even a navy guy but watching the navy fanboys fight an outdated fantasy match-up is hilarious. Look up from your ass and smell the coffee - the future is now.

Russia has Poseidon. A nuclear powered and armed torpedo that has unlimited range, the maximum level of stealth possible, the most sophisticated sensors, and can dive at depths that would crush even the titanium subs into scrap.

Russia's shipyards can pump at least a dozen of these motherfuckers for every submarine the US industry can struggle to strain out. Eventually Russia will have a a couple Poseidons tailing every NATO boomer, their trailing attack subs, a few dozen for the carrier group above and even one for each coast guard patrol boat jacking off in the rear, providing a persistent and ever looming sword of damocles to NATO's sea-based nuclear capabilities.

And you retards actually think Russia is going to replay the battle of Atlantic for WW3?

To Lyle....

If "Poseidon" is all that the Russian VMF needs, then the Russian army does not need tanks and artillery either, since they have RS-24, RT-2PM2, R-36M2. Right ?

To Garry....


And while I write about the shortcomings of the Russian VMF, you mention Stalin... And what kind of objectivity should we write about ?
And while I mention the P-8 and IL-38, you write about the F-15 and the F-22.
The Zumwalt turned out to be junk and I am not writing here about the Zumwalt but about the Russian VMF. If the Russians had at least half as many Project 20385 corvettes as the Americans have Areligh Burke destroyers, I would be happy.
What kind of future of the Russian VMF are you writing about ? That doesn't exist for at least the next 10+ years. You are the FIRST to write about aircraft carriers and the protection of economic interests around the world. I am more modest I also wrote and am writing what has always formed the basis of the Russian and earlier Soviet fleet - SSN/SSGN submarines.

Judge for yourself...
* Only 3 project 885/885M submarines built in the last 22 years or from the K-335 Gepard submarine. A fourth K-571 is expected.
* The 22350 frigate project is over 20 years old and in 2023 only two are active, while the third has been announced.
* And what do we have at the end ? The 955A submarines built at high speed, the K-329 "Belgorod" and the first Poseidon torpedo carrier.
* There is progress regarding the Amur Shipyard and the speed of laying keels for 20380/20385 in the past years, and that is commendable, but the Russians can also screw things up with insufficient financing of construction, corruption, etc.


* Garry, the Russians announced in April 2013 that they will complete the modernization and deliver the Leopard submarine to the Russian Navy in 2016.
Here is the link, there is no better one; Deepstorm.ru

http://www.deepstorm.ru/DeepStorm.files/45-92/nts/971/K-328/K-328.htm


* Corvette "Strogiy" has been under construction since February 2015 and its not active..yet.
It is a giant ship with a full displacement of 2220 tons.
* Corvette "Provorny" project 20385 under construction since July 2013. Severe fire damage December 2021.
* Frigates... waste of time.. Project 22350 is already more than 20 years old. Waste of time and I'm not sure that they could have tested the gas turbines at "Golovko" in such a short time. Well, it's the Russians and if there's an accident - we'll get some nonsense on TASS again, etc.

Years pass and promises about the terms of construction and delivery of new submarines and ships to the VMF continue, while the fleet is declining and shrinking.
I underlined this sentence because it is the essence that unfortunately does not change for the better.
But hey, a good number of forum members are thrilled with those 21631 and 22800 and 22160 cans.

After everything I wrote, you write what is not correct and where I went wrong ? I am not writing here out of disdain for the Russian Navy, but out of the lies that the Russian state is spreading about the fleet, which is in a terrible state.

Lyle6 Poseidon is not a system designed to destroy SSBNs, but to carry out nuclear strikes on port cities, etc. It is not suitable for destroying SSBNs. For this to make sense, you would need to monitor the movement of US SSBNs in real time. Then you can send Poseidon to the area where the SSBN sails. Currently, continuous tracking of even older SSBNs is impossible. Therefore, it is still an excellent weapon for nuclear strikes.

Excellent ISOS, then it was cheaper to build additional RS-24 and place them in the north of Russia than to build SSBN, if they will not leave Russian territorial waters. Why build Borei when they are less protected than clay pigeons. Sorry man, but VMF is useless. wrote:

Russian SSBNs have at their disposal the Barents Sea, the Kara Sea, the East Siberian Sea, and the Arctic Ocean. All close to Russia and a huge area of sea waters where SSBNs can be hidden. Additionally, the ice cover in the Arctic Ocean makes it even more difficult to detect a submarine. Perfect place for patrols.

Podlodka77 wrote:To Lyle....

If "Poseidon" is all that the Russian VMF needs, then the Russian army does not need tanks and artillery either, since they have RS-24, RT-2PM2, R-36M2. Right ?

To Garry....


And while I write about the shortcomings of the Russian VMF, you mention Stalin... And what kind of objectivity should we write about ?
And while I mention the P-8 and IL-38, you write about the F-15 and the F-22.
The Zumwalt turned out to be junk and I am not writing here about the Zumwalt but about the Russian VMF. If the Russians had at least half as many Project 20385 corvettes as the Americans have Areligh Burke destroyers, I would be happy.
What kind of future of the Russian VMF are you writing about ? That doesn't exist for at least the next 10+ years. You are the FIRST to write about aircraft carriers and the protection of economic interests around the world. I am more modest I also wrote and am writing what has always formed the basis of the Russian and earlier Soviet fleet - SSN/SSGN submarines.

Judge for yourself...
* Only 3 project 885/885M submarines built in the last 22 years or from the K-335 Gepard submarine. A fourth K-571 is expected.
* The 22350 frigate project is over 20 years old and in 2023 only two are active, while the third has been announced.
* And what do we have at the end ? The 955A submarines built at high speed, the K-329 "Belgorod" and the first Poseidon torpedo carrier.
* There is progress regarding the Amur Shipyard and the speed of laying keels for 20380/20385 in the past years, and that is commendable, but the Russians can also screw things up with insufficient financing of construction, corruption, etc.


* Garry, the Russians announced in April 2013 that they will complete the modernization and deliver the Leopard submarine to the Russian Navy in 2016.
Here is the link, there is no better one; Deepstorm.ru

http://www.deepstorm.ru/DeepStorm.files/45-92/nts/971/K-328/K-328.htm


* Corvette "Strogiy" has been under construction since February 2015 and its not active..yet.
It is a giant ship with a full displacement of 2220 tons.
* Corvette "Provorny" project 20385 under construction since July 2013. Severe fire damage December 2021.
* Frigates... waste of time.. Project 22350 is already more than 20 years old. Waste of time and I'm not sure that they could have tested the gas turbines at "Golovko" in such a short time. Well, it's the Russians and if there's an accident - we'll get some nonsense on TASS again, etc.

Years pass and promises about the terms of construction and delivery of new submarines and ships to the VMF continue, while the fleet is declining and shrinking.
I underlined this sentence because it is the essence that unfortunately does not change for the better.
But hey, a good number of forum members are thrilled with those 21631 and 22800 and 22160 cans.

After everything I wrote, you write what is not correct and where I went wrong ? I am not writing here out of disdain for the Russian Navy, but out of the lies that the Russian state is spreading about the fleet, which is in a terrible state.

You need to calm down and realize that what is happening now is a landwar with Russia vs the entire Nato and west, a big expensive navy is a luxury they dont need right now. The ships and submarines keep coming and modifications and new models are put on line.
All is well, the SSBN is the focus and its getting new subs and missiles regulary.