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    Post  Hole Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:01 pm

    The US is supplying ever heavier and more extensive weapons to the fascists. 
    They are runnig out of short range missiles. That´s why.

    So it must be pacified somehow and this is not obvious.
    Resettle 100.000 Chechens into the area.  Very Happy

    preparing a provocation against the civilian population of Poland
    Already happened. Look at the government in Poland. And the opposition.  lol1

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:05 pm

    About the quality of "Azov" /3rd Assault Brigade OSU

    Captured company commander of the 3rd assault brigade of the AFU, he spoke about the recruitment and state of the elite formation.

    The story of the captured officer sheds new light on the real situation in the assault brigade. The brigade was once formed on the basis of the nationalist "Azov" regiment. In the beginning, its core consisted of ideological Nazis, motivated and well prepared.

    But the situation has changed. After the battles in Bahmut and Kleščejevka, the personnel of the brigade underwent major changes. A large part of the ideological Nazis perished.

    To save the "flag" the brigade began to be filled with people transferred from other formations, including territorial defense forces. This created a mix in which the quality of manpower was even worse than in other brigades, because sensible commanders never give their best fighters to other units. Basically, this was done to give the public an image that the "elite brigade" is alive and fighting.

    Actually, in Avdejevka, the 3rd or 4th assault battalion was finished. They had a very dubious level of combat capability. The company commander himself, who was captured, said that he had served in the brigade for only three weeks. Before that he served in the TO brigade (Terrirorial Defense) and then suddenly found among the raiders, and even and as a company commander.

    With such an approach to recruitment and manpower, the outcome of the brigade's "victorious" arrival in Avdejevka was doomed in advance. The brigade was unable to offer serious resistance to the Russian troops.

    http://t.me/istocni_front

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:29 pm

    It can be very truth.
    The beloved by Russkie nazi tatoos are so rare among the POWs and KIAs, that there is hardly anything to show.
    I have only spotted some pentagrams and shit like that.
    Maybe we need to wait some more time, but this kind of pics were usually revealed very fast.
    The other thing is how they are dressed and equipped. Not much of a difference to regular cannon fodder.
    The age of the POW/KIA is another hint. They are no longer in late 20s/early 30s, but a regular mix of 45 y/o ...

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:38 pm

    ALAMO wrote:It can be very truth.
    The beloved by Russkie nazi tatoos are so rare among the POWs and KIAs, that there is hardly anything to show.
    I have only spotted some pentagrams and shit like that.
    Maybe we need to wait some more time, but this kind of pics were usually revealed very fast.
    The other thing is how they are dressed and equipped. Not much of a difference to regular cannon fodder.
    The age of the POW/KIA is another hint. They are no longer in late 20s/early 30s, but a regular mix of 45 y/o ...

    Do you think that most of the real Nazi are now safely back from the front lines with no intention to fight but just extract wealth, ready for the trip west to safety at the end?
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:41 pm

    ^ A lot of them are simply dead.

    Remember that in times of war the most fanatical individuals are the first ones to go to the front and therefore, the first to die.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:51 pm

    I was thinking about that.
    Some of them, obviously yes.
    Core neonazi thugs have left 404 a long time ago.
    They were too busy doing business to care about such irrelevant things as fighting for their country.
    Those are simply criminals, who had connections with the Polish gangs for a very long time.
    Drug and human trafficking are only one of the spheres where cooperate happily.
    Brothels in Poland were filled with Ukrainian chicks for years, and not all of them arrived here because they wished to.
    Some revealed information suggests the case to be even deeper shit, as those brothels were organized by the Ukro secret service, to collect data about our businessmen and politicians.
    How far that goes, I will just tell you that one of our Sejm marshals was ... ekhm ... hid under the radar when some rumors about him being a regular visitor raised.
    He liked them young, just as Bill Clinton ...

    They have waste connections with all European neonazi structures.

    It is really, really nasty shit angry dunno

    But at the other hand, the majority of bandera suckers clearly stayed and fought.
    I guess that those simply run out of.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Feb 20, 2024 2:32 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:Russia has not properly enforced its red lines so far. This is why this is happening now. Russia needs to start striking the West directly. Their cities. Their factories. Their infrastructure. Their military. Their civilians. Unless Russia fails to do this Russia will eventually lose because the West will keep escalating.

    Do you not understand that the crazies run the asylum in the west. The US CONgress wants to name Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism, but more Americans are getting tired of the war. Want to reinvigorate our love for war? Attack our cities and intentionally kill our civilians. Russia knocks down drones, or hits American soldiers most of us can say that's an occupational risk. You hit American civilians and the shit really hits the fan.

    If I was Russia, I would make sure the Houthis and Assad government and Iran get as many American made weapons as possible and that they use them against their makers. Done just right, the American public will want to know how and why our weapons ended up in the hands of our many enemies. This will increase auditing of the money laundering scam which will make the Biden regime even less popular and will make people here lose confidence and trust in the Zelensky crime syndicate. Plus you have a shit load more plausible deniability. Senatewhore Lindsey Graham says Russia gave those weapons to our foes? Putin says, how? We're under sanctions. How do you propose we gave these guys your weapons?

    Your idea only leads to nuclear fueled extinction. Mine leads to regime change

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    Post  mnztr Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:27 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    I find it amusing that people think the Houthies need help against the west... the irony is clear in the recent HATO withdrawal from Afghanistan... it is rich countries with ties to the west... with money and income on the line that the west can defeat the easiest... it is the poor jandal wearing native that scares the west because they have nothing to lose...


    They do need help and are getting it from Iran. The US carriers are too far for them to attack. Not only do the Houthis have nothing to lose, they genuinely embrace war, and the territory of Yemen is even more difficult then Afghanistan. These are people who simply have no fear from any threat of war. They cannot be defeated or cowed.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Tue Feb 20, 2024 6:00 pm

    mnztr wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    I find it amusing that people think the Houthies need help against the west... the irony is clear in the recent HATO withdrawal from Afghanistan... it is rich countries with ties to the west... with money and income on the line that the west can defeat the easiest... it is the poor jandal wearing native that scares the west because they have nothing to lose...


    They do need help and are getting it from Iran. The US carriers are too far for them to attack. Not only do the Houthis have nothing to lose, they genuinely embrace war, and the territory of Yemen is even more difficult then Afghanistan. These are people who simply have no fear from any threat of war. They cannot be defeated or cowed.

    There is a parallel with Star Wars.
    Russia is the rebel alliance with the Jedi knights fighting for light and good against the globalist order.
    The United States and NATO are the Empire managed from behind the scenes by the Jewish Sith.
    And many people in the world help the Russian rebels. The Palestinians, the Yemenis, the Afghans, the Iranians are peaceful and simple people like the Ewok and the Wookiees. People impossible to defeat by the Empire due to their tenacity

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    Post  lancelot Tue Feb 20, 2024 6:07 pm

    If you listen to George Lucas Star Wars was meant to be a kind of critique of US imperialism. Namely the Vietnam War.

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    Post  lancelot Tue Feb 20, 2024 6:53 pm

    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:According to a media report, the government of US President Joe Biden is considering delivering high-range ATACMS missiles to Ukraine. As the NBC news channel reports, citing two US officials, the ballistic weapons with a range of up to 300 kilometers could become part of the $ 60 billion aid package, which is currently being blocked by the Republicans.
    ...
    The US is supplying ever heavier and more extensive weapons to the fascists. This was and is to be expected. It just confirms what we knew. There must be no buffer left from which such weapons can be launched. In 10 years, these weapons will have a dirty bomb or nuclear weapon attached to the warhead. The zombies in the West will stop at nothing. No buffer, face to face with NATO!
    The US are sending the ATACMS to Ukraine now because PrSM, it's replacement, started serial production.
    I wouldn't be surprised if they started sending air launched cruise missiles as well eventually.
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    Post  Firebird Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:05 pm

    Well then Russia can send Su-57 and Iskanders to the Houthis and the billions who want the 780 foreign US bases gone from their lands.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:20 pm

    I believe Russia will start killing US troops now by proxy as well as their allies (Israeli, NATO) etc.

    If you observe the actions of the FSB with regard to the pilot traitor, it's clear hearts are hardening

    If the only way to dissuade the US from further aggravation of the conflict is by supporting proxies they are fighting, then it will be done

    And that is what we will start seeing, we finally saw news how Ecuador climbed down from the weapons deal

    So Russia has begun to enforce its red lines, slowly, then suddenly

    It starts with a couple of rats snuffed out, then pressure on small states who take positions against Russia,  and eventually direct confrontation with the main aggressor

    The US will be subject to death by 1000 cuts


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:21 pm

    Firebird wrote:Well then Russia can send Su-57 and Iskanders to the Houthis and the billions who want the 780 foreign US bases gone from their lands.

    Proxies don't even need that

    They have what they need as far as material, they just need intelligence support

    The longer the US is tied down in massive wars than they can't get out of, the less power they have to initiate any kind of economic or military confrontation with China

    They wanted to cause chaos and remain uninvolved while they fought China

    Thinking that their allies could manage these conflicts and US weapons support would be enough

    But it turns out US allies wouldn't be able to hold on , as we see Ukraine and Israel suffering and the US unable to extricate itself

    In the famous words of Mike Tyson, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:13 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    Firebird wrote:Well then Russia can send Su-57 and Iskanders to the Houthis and the billions who want the 780 foreign US bases gone from their lands.

    Proxies don't even need that

    They have what they need as far as material, they just need intelligence support

    The longer the US is tied down in massive wars than they can't get out of, the less power they have to initiate any kind of economic or military confrontation with China

    They wanted to cause chaos and remain uninvolved  while they fought China

    Thinking that their allies could manage these conflicts and US weapons support would be enough

    But it turns out US allies wouldn't be able to hold on , as we see Ukraine and Israel suffering and the US unable to extricate itself

    In the famous words of Mike Tyson, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face

    It is clear that Russia is very strengthened. All doubts about his victory have been dispelled. The economy is calm. It has consolidated its alliance with China.
    It is their rivals who are nervous as they hoped to wear down Russia by destroying its economy and underestimating its military capabilities.
    Now they realized that they cannot win and they do not know how to get out of the war without humiliation.
    I predicted this was going to happen with the arrival of the US elections and the possibility of Trump.
    The war in Gaza has also indirectly benefited Russia by highlighting Ukrainian victimism and propaganda.
    For me, Russia can defeat Ukraine completely in the middle of the year once the Ukrainian army finishes collapsing along the entire front or in one of its parts.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:34 pm

    ALAMO wrote:I was thinking about that.
    Some of them, obviously yes.
    Core neonazi thugs have left 404 a long time ago.
    They were too busy doing business to care about such irrelevant things as fighting for their country.
    Those are simply criminals, who had connections with the Polish gangs for a very long time.
    Drug and human trafficking are only one of the spheres where cooperate happily.
    Brothels in Poland were filled with Ukrainian chicks for years, and not all of them arrived here because they wished to.
    Some revealed information suggests the case to be even deeper shit, as those brothels were organized by the Ukro secret service, to collect data about our businessmen and politicians.
    How far that goes, I will just tell you that one of our Sejm marshals was ... ekhm ... hid under the radar when some rumors about him being a regular visitor raised.
    He liked them young, just as Bill Clinton ...

    They have waste connections with all European neonazi structures.

    It is really, really nasty shit angry dunno

    But at the other hand, the majority of bandera suckers clearly stayed and fought.
    I guess that those simply run out of.


    Clever Ukrainian scoundrel.


    You conveniently forgot about the at least 1 500 Polish slaves murdered in southern Italy, together with the many Polish woman enslaved and raped by their Italian and Ukrainian captors.


    And now you support them and help bring them over to Poland. Mad



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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:19 pm

    IMO Chasov Yar is a feint

    The real direction is Ugledar

    By rolling up Pobeda and Novomikhailovka, the road to Ugledar opens

    And not only that, but then Dobropolya, Kurakhovo and Pokrovsk become open

    By attacking in those directions , they can get into the rear of Slavyansk-Kramatorsk

    Although they would need to solve the Liman issue

    But I think that will be left for summer time as there are many rivers there and the terrain is not optimal yet for an offensive

    So using Ugledar as a launch pad to get to the Donetsk border is a smart move by the general staff

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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:20 pm

    JohninMK wrote:With such an approach to recruitment and manpower, the outcome of the brigade's "victorious" arrival in Avdejevka was doomed in advance. The brigade was unable to offer serious resistance to the Russian troops.

    I would wholeheartedly encourage them not to give up but to try & try again... The Russian army is only to willing to assist the glorious Azov regiment should it wish to regain its prior reputation.... Razz

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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:32 pm

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:
    There is a parallel with Star Wars.
    Russia is the rebel alliance with the Jedi knights fighting for light and good against the globalist order.
    The United States and NATO are the Empire managed from behind the scenes by the Jewish Sith.
    And many people in the world help the Russian rebels. The Palestinians, the Yemenis, the Afghans, the Iranians are peaceful and simple people like the Ewok and the Wookiees. People impossible to defeat by the Empire due to their tenacity

    Funny you wrote that... I've been thinking of the Galactic Empire as the Americans for a number of years now. Whenever I see a Star Destoyer, my subconscience inserts a Nimitz class CVN...

    It adds a new level of enjoyment to see Vaders flagship "Executor" falling into the Death Stars gravity well and crashing into the station after her anti-grav systems are disabled... Twisted Evil

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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:38 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:IMO Chasov Yar is a feint

    The real direction is Ugledar

    By rolling up Pobeda and Novomikhailovka,  the road to Ugledar opens

    And not only that, but then Dobropolya, Kurakhovo and Pokrovsk become open

    By attacking in those directions , they can get into the rear of Slavyansk-Kramatorsk

    Although they would need to solve the Liman issue

    But I think that will be left for summer time as there are many rivers there and the terrain is not optimal yet for an offensive

    So using Ugledar as a launch pad to get to the Donetsk border is a smart move by the general staff

    After the hammering that was metered out to Avdeeka by a fck-ton of FABs, I don't see Ugledar holding out for long if they repeat the treatment. Ugeldar is comparitively very small and the heavily fortified areas are quite condensed. RuAF dispensing gifts should break them in efficient fashion, then the ladz can get in there up close and personal to pay their respects...

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    Post  mnztr Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:01 pm

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:
    mnztr wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    I find it amusing that people think the Houthies need help against the west... the irony is clear in the recent HATO withdrawal from Afghanistan... it is rich countries with ties to the west... with money and income on the line that the west can defeat the easiest... it is the poor jandal wearing native that scares the west because they have nothing to lose...


    They do need help and are getting it from Iran. The US carriers are too far for them to attack. Not only do the Houthis have nothing to lose, they genuinely embrace war, and the territory of Yemen is even more difficult then Afghanistan. These are people who simply have no fear from any threat of war. They cannot be defeated or cowed.

    There is a parallel with Star Wars.
    Russia is the rebel alliance with the Jedi knights fighting for light and good against the globalist order.
    The United States and NATO are the Empire managed from behind the scenes by the Jewish Sith.
    And many people in the world help the Russian rebels. The Palestinians, the Yemenis, the Afghans, the Iranians are peaceful and simple people like the Ewok and the Wookiees. People impossible to defeat by the Empire due to their tenacity


    It ironic that the Evil empire was probably the Soviet Union or Nazis when Star Wars first came out. Now its the USA.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:04 am

    Not a fan of the source, but a good video on Russian troops using the Nona M1 mortar very clever design.


    https://www.forces.net/russia/russia-using-nona-m1-mortar-counter-ukrainian-tactics-and-keep-crew-alive

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    Post  kvs Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:13 am

    It's really cute how western "analysts" attribute all sorts of mad skillz to Ukr forces when they can have no more than the Russian
    ones by definition. Back in 1990 the vast majority of the west did not know the difference between Ukrs and Russians. Now everyone
    and his dog is an "expert" on their distinctiveness.

    NATzO training after 2014 would not have transformed Ukrs into a new species.

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    Post  sepheronx Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:14 am

    kvs wrote:It's really cute how western "analysts" attribute all sorts of mad skillz to Ukr forces when they can have no more than the Russian
    ones by definition.   Back in 1990 the vast majority of the west did not know the difference between Ukrs and Russians.   Now everyone
    and his dog is an "expert" on their distinctiveness.

    NATzO training after 2014 would not have transformed Ukrs into a new species.


    They are all like that.

    Ukrops now and their make belief history books they created are flooding Canadian, UK and other western libraries and information spheres and they lap it up.

    Even if they cant acknowledge the fact that prior to 1911, there was no Ukraine listed on a map.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:04 am

    mnztr wrote:
    ArgentinaGuard wrote:
    mnztr wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    I find it amusing that people think the Houthies need help against the west... the irony is clear in the recent HATO withdrawal from Afghanistan... it is rich countries with ties to the west... with money and income on the line that the west can defeat the easiest... it is the poor jandal wearing native that scares the west because they have nothing to lose...


    They do need help and are getting it from Iran. The US carriers are too far for them to attack. Not only do the Houthis have nothing to lose, they genuinely embrace war, and the territory of Yemen is even more difficult then Afghanistan. These are people who simply have no fear from any threat of war. They cannot be defeated or cowed.

    There is a parallel with Star Wars.
    Russia is the rebel alliance with the Jedi knights fighting for light and good against the globalist order.
    The United States and NATO are the Empire managed from behind the scenes by the Jewish Sith.
    And many people in the world help the Russian rebels. The Palestinians, the Yemenis, the Afghans, the Iranians are peaceful and simple people like the Ewok and the Wookiees. People impossible to defeat by the Empire due to their tenacity


    It ironic that the Evil empire was probably the Soviet Union or Nazis when Star Wars first came out. Now its the USA.

    In reality, before it was the Empire, it was a Republic and it was good but it was corrupted by the Sith from the shadows. So it is the reflection of the United States.


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